S31: Spoilers

[LadyChatts]

I like knowing what happens-my anxiety can't take it!  But anyway, I wonder what the deal was with the lack of press images.

 

Stephen seems like such an obvious boot, that I'm leaning towards it being not him, and it being someone that was speculated to go far (either one of the heavy weight lossers or someone whose family/friend/SO disappeared around the same time as the loved ones visit).  Of course some of those people it makes no sense to boot them this soon.  Either way, I'll enjoy!  I do hope it is a good episode, and not something too predictable and boring.  If someone throws a challenge, let it backfire on them.  Let someone swagger into TC all cocky that the vote is going their way, then take the walk of shame to LL.  The last couple weeks had their good moments, but were also equally dull.  I would have given anything for Shirin to get blindsided last week.

 

If Ta'Keo loses and Kass survives her first trek to TC I'll be shocked.  How fast things can change if you aren't among the first to go to TC.

Edited October 7, 2015 by LadyChatts

[anthonyd46]

Ladychatts you had it pegged from the first episode PG is not lasting long. This is great news. It means the weight loss spoilers guarantee nothing she had an infection and moderate weight loss and was booted 3rd. This is epic. No bag challenge, no crying. Assume that all happens next episode. Stephen wasn't voted out either lol.

Edited October 8, 2015 by anthonyd46

[LadyChatts]

Ladychatts you had it pegged from the first episode PG is not lasting long. This is great news. It means the weight loss spoilers guarantee nothing she had an infection and moderate weight loss and was booted 3rd. This is epic. No bag challenge, no crying. Assume that all happens next episode. Stephen wasn't voted out either lol.

 

I still think Stephen isn't long for the game, but after tonight, maybe I was right in my original opinion and he is headed for redemption.  He sure got a lot of airtime again.  I thought PG could be on the short list of people to go tonight if it wasn't Stephen (then I deleted her, because of the weight loss/staph infection spec-and I really didn't think they'd keep Abi over her).  I kept holding my breath and waiting for the bag challenge to make an appeareance.  Then I though, maybe they had the challenge but edited it out.  I did breathe a little easier since I knew Savage and Tasha were safe.  Still think Andrew gets bounced pre-merge, though.  And since they are merging at 13, it makes me wonder if Angkor goes on a horrible losing streak.  At 13, there would be what, 1 person left from that tribe?  Of course there's still evidence Tasha survives, and possibly Varner.

 

The only thing I have to go on with Varner now is that post game pic of him, Kimmi, and Joe.  However, since weight loss isn't an indicator it could make perfect sense for it to be them pre-merge somewhere.  If it is legit that there's bad blood between Tasha and Varner, now we might now why.  All these pieces of the puzzle, we just have to make them fit and get the missing pieces.

Edited October 8, 2015 by LadyChatts

[anthonyd46]

I still think Stephen isn't long for the game, but after tonight, maybe I was right in my original opinion and he is headed for redemption.  He sure got a lot of airtime again.  I thought PG could be on the short list of people to go tonight if it wasn't Stephen (then I deleted her, because of the weight loss/staph infection spec-and I really didn't think they'd keep Abi over her).  I kept holding my breath and waiting for the bag challenge to make an appeareance.  Then I though, maybe they had the challenge but edited it out.  I did breathe a little easier since I knew Savage and Tasha were safe.  Still think Andrew gets bounced pre-merge, though.  And since they are merging at 13, it makes me wonder if Angkor goes on a horrible losing streak.  At 13, there would be what, 1 person left from that tribe?  Of course there's still evidence Tasha survives, and possibly Varner.

 

The only thing I have to go on with Varner now is that post game pic of him, Kimmi, and Joe.  However, since weight loss isn't an indicator it could make perfect sense for it to be them pre-merge somewhere.  If it is legit that there's bad blood between Tasha and Varner, now we might now why.  All these pieces of the puzzle, we just have to make them fit and get the missing pieces.

Yea at least the weight loss backers can quiet down now. However thats crazy someone can last 9 days in the game and get that bad of an infection and look like they lost quite a bit. I was very surprised to see the Tasha Varner thing happen now I thought that was happening way later. 

[LadyChatts]

Yea at least the weight loss backers can quiet down now. However thats crazy someone can last 9 days in the game and get that bad of an infection and look like they lost quite a bit. I was very surprised to see the Tasha Varner thing happen now I thought that was happening way later. 

 

TBH, I didn't think PG weight loss looked that severe.  And getting an infection, losing weight, or getting tan, there are a million explanations for that.  I was hoping PG made it, so I was taking that and running with it.  With how much Kimmi and Kelley lost though, I really think they do go the distance.  But Kimmi came on the show kind of heavy, so who knows, she may have taken her pre-jury trip and decided to keep the weight loss going for herself.  Kelley, I just believe will be safe.  She's really in a good position, and if we didn't already know Terry was getting pulled from the game, I would think they would target him first, anyway.

 

I'm thinking there's probably more drama between Tasha and Varner than what we saw tonight-because if there isn't, it is petty to get upset over her calling you a rat.  I mean, he did do something stupid.  Unless there was way more to it than what we saw.

 

So in the episode preview at least for next week, we only saw the one challenge-the blindfolded challenge.  Which again, if there are no bags challenge added to that, then Jeremy/Savage/Terry are safe, but Terry's removal episode must be coming up here soon.  I thought he was out of the game by day 12?

[anthonyd46]

TBH, I didn't think PG weight loss looked that severe.  And getting an infection, losing weight, or getting tan, there are a million explanations for that.  I was hoping PG made it, so I was taking that and running with it.  With how much Kimmi and Kelley lost though, I really think they do go the distance.  But Kimmi came on the show kind of heavy, so who knows, she may have taken her pre-jury trip and decided to keep the weight loss going for herself.  Kelley, I just believe will be safe.  She's really in a good position, and if we didn't already know Terry was getting pulled from the game, I would think they would target him first, anyway.

 

I'm thinking there's probably more drama between Tasha and Varner than what we saw tonight-because if there isn't, it is petty to get upset over her calling you a rat.  I mean, he did do something stupid.  Unless there was way more to it than what we saw.

 

So in the episode preview at least for next week, we only saw the one challenge-the blindfolded challenge.  Which again, if there are no bags challenge added to that, then Jeremy/Savage/Terry are safe, but Terry's removal episode must be coming up here soon.  I thought he was out of the game by day 12?

It could be episode 5 because it might be Day 13. Its possible the bag challenge is the reward challenge of episode 5? Though it could be in 4 I guess still.

[wonald]

There was a complete boot list that was posted this past wk that had PG going 3rd boot. The braindead mod of the forum removed it.

 

Now it looks like we finally got a legit leak this season since this person also said that FIVE people finds a HII this season. He named them all, including Jeremy who just found one. He says that Spencer wins. Wow. Of course, that boot list is all gone now.

[LadyChatts]

There was a complete boot list that was posted this past wk that had PG going 3rd boot. The braindead mod of the forum removed it.

 

Now it looks like we finally got a legit leak this season since this person also said that FIVE people finds a HII this season. He named them all, including Jeremy who just found one. He says that Spencer wins. Wow. Of course, that boot list is all gone now.

 

Heh, I remember them saying that the mod would be sorry for removing it, too.  I don't know why people get so down on people who post spoilers and boot lists that may be hearsay or not have anything concrete to back them up.  At least give it a chance to prove itself wrong.

 

I remember it did say that Abi, Keith, Spencer all made the final 5/family visit, and that Joe and Kelley Wentworth were voted off just prior to that (poor Joe if he misses the family visit again).  I think Woo and Kelly Wigles were pre-merge on there, as well as Monica, and that Ciera and Tasha made the merge.

Edited October 8, 2015 by LadyChatts

[wonald]

Heh, I remember them saying that the mod would be sorry for removing it, too.  I don't know why people get so down on people who post spoilers and boot lists that may be hearsay or not have anything concrete to back them up.  At least give it a chance to prove itself wrong.

 

I remember it did say that Abi, Keith, Spencer all made the final 5/family visit, and that Joe and Kelley Wentworth were voted off just prior to that (poor Joe if he misses the family visit again).  I think Woo and Kelly Wigles were pre-merge on there, as well as Monica, and that Ciera and Tasha made the merge.

 

 

I am not talking about the one that is hidden on Sucks. This was a different list.

[Shermie]

So are there any actual spoilers out there?

[Zuleikha]

Terry's leaving is still a spoiler and that's confirmed. Other than that I think it's all speculation of various degrees based on weight loss and social media. 

 

Unless the mysterious boot list reappears and gets verified, of course.

[Paron Xanthis]

He says that Spencer wins. Wow.

I don't believe one word of that.  He's good, but good enough to win?  Not even close.

 

Who are the five people listed who find idols, though?

[anthonyd46]

There was a complete boot list that was posted this past wk that had PG going 3rd boot. The braindead mod of the forum removed it.

 

Now it looks like we finally got a legit leak this season since this person also said that FIVE people finds a HII this season. He named them all, including Jeremy who just found one. He says that Spencer wins. Wow. Of course, that boot list is all gone now.

 

Which list are you referring to? The sucks one doesn't show anything about the HII.

[LadyChatts]

I never saw one that said anything about idols.  But the one I saw that was removed (twice) had PG going this week.  And everyone dismissed it because they didn't believe PG was in any danger.

 

I think every boot list I've seen has been similar, so I don't know which (if any) have any truth or are just playing off each other and are going by what's already out there as speculation.  

Edited October 8, 2015 by LadyChatts

[anthonyd46]

Heres my updated summary:

 

Ta Keo

Ciera - No other proof past episode 4
Joe - No other proof past episode 4, but has photo in airport with Kimmi and Jeff
Kass - In a local tv interview she mentioned there was a gross food challenge, not sure if she participated or was told about it in loser lodge
Keith - No other proof past episode 4 , however a lot of weight loss (see note on Kelley about weight loss)
Kelley - Massive weight loss zombie looking even don't have anything showing her past this episode, but with that kind of weight loss it would be very surprising she only lasted 12 days she is safe. However, we did see PG go out with a decent amount of weight loss and an infection on Day 9 so this confirms the conditions are pretty bad.
Terry - Quits the game, confirmation by his daughter that this happened. Instagram research and other sources verify the son gets sick on either late Day 12 or early Day 13. Terry leaves sometime in this 2 day span

 

Angkor

Abi - No other proof past episode 4
Jeff - We have no visible proof of him past this episode other than an airport photo with Kimmi and Joe after the game ended.
Savage - Bag holding challenge in intro (no confirmation on when this challenge is can't be booted until we see bag holding challenge)
Tasha - There is a scene of Tasha crying in intro. It is speculated this happens when Terry leaves on Day 12 or 13 which would be episode 4 or 5. If Tasha does not cry in episode 4 then tasha is safe until she is shown crying.
Woo - There is a scene of Tasha crying in intro. It is speculated this happens when Terry leaves on Day 12 or 13 which would be episode 4 or 5. If Tasha does not cry in episode 4 then woo is safe until she is shown crying.

 

Bayon

Jeremy - Bag holding challenge in intro (no confirmation on when this challenge is can't be booted until we see bag holding challenge)
Kelly - Kelly is seen looking towards spencer in the survivor intro with a bayon member right behind her therefore Kelly either swapped to Bayon (confirmed redmond). This challenge did not happen in episode 1-3. It is possible it happens in episode 4, but Kelly is safe until it does.
Kimmi - No other proof past episode 4, however zombie levels of weight loss  (See note on Kelley about weight loss)
Monica - No other proof past episode 4
Spencer - He is in the same group shot Kelly is in
Stephen - No other proof past episode 4

 

Eliminated

Vytas - Instagram like Day 9 must be booted before day 9 - TRUE booted episode 1
Shirin - Her intro shots end episode 2 possible boot. - TRUE booted episode 2
PG- All intro shots have happened already, however, there is a picture of Abi at what is speculated to a water challenge and has PG in the background PG also has a staph infection after the game was over. - TRUE booted episode 3 intro shot spec was true, however, the weight loss and staph infection did not = a long time in the game.

Edited October 8, 2015 by anthonyd46

[cooksdelight]

Which braindead mod are you referring to? :)

If you are discussing another forum, please be specific. Otherwise I may have to go stick my finger in a light socket for a jumpstart.

[wonald]

I don't believe one word of that.  He's good, but good enough to win?  Not even close.

 

 

 

You mean like how Amber and Cockran were good but good enough to win?

 

 

Which list are you referring to? The sucks one doesn't show anything about the HII.

 

Youre right! The Sucks one doesnt say anything about HII.

Which braindead mod are you referring to? :)

If you are discussing another forum, please be specific. Otherwise I may have to go stick my finger in a light socket for a jumpstart.

 

 

LOL, I am not referring to you (didnt know you were a mod, congrats!). And I am not referring to Anti on Sucks.

 

I am not going to name this forum bc the mod is a POS and I refuse to give any forum with it as a mod traction. If that is going to be a problem, just delete my previous posts. Thx!

[Paron Xanthis]

You mean like how Amber and Cockran were good but good enough to win?

Yes.  I don't believe it at all.

[LanceM]

I just saw that "bootlist" on Sucks (it has since been deleted) but if the next three boots are Jeff, Monica and Terry (not really a boot) then I think we might need to take it seriously..

[anthonyd46]

I just saw that "bootlist" on Sucks (it has since been deleted) but if the next three boots are Jeff, Monica and Terry (not really a boot) then I think we might need to take it seriously..

6th boot would be a bit late for Terry though its possible he isn't told the news until a couple days after it happens.

[Jextella]

I like knowing what happens-my anxiety can't take it! 

 

I'm with ya! 

 

It is far more dramatic not knowing the resuts but it is too anxiety-inducing for me to deal wit! I have to remind myself that I don't know these people and I shouldn't be as invested in their fate ... in a GAME ... as I am!

 

Plus, I have no self-control.  I resist sleuthing as well as I resist ice cream.

I just saw that "bootlist" on Sucks (it has since been deleted) but if the next three boots are Jeff, Monica and Terry (not really a boot) then I think we might need to take it seriously..

Can you share the full list?

 

Also, why does that site take down boot lists?  I rarey visit it other than to look for spoilers...it's like some kind of crazy free for all over there! Are they trying to clean things up?

Edited October 8, 2015 by Jextella

[anthonyd46]

I'm with ya! 

 

It is far more dramatic not knowing the resuts but it is too anxiety-inducing for me to deal wit! I have to remind myself that I don't know these people and I shouldn't be as invested in their fate ... in a GAME ... as I am!

 

Plus, I have no self-control.  I resist sleuthing as well as I resist ice cream.

Can you share the full list?

 

Also, why does that site take down boot lists?  I rarey visit it other than to look for spoilers...it's like some kind of crazy free for all over there! Are they trying to clean things up?

They claim if they take it down there is something telling them its fake but never reveal what it is. Sometimes it just matches an ip of a known hoaxer or something.

[anthonyd46]

What do you think of Abi's comment to Woo "Thats the second time you wrote my name down?" Does Abi control Woo's demise next time they go to TC?

[LadyChatts]

We know the merge is happening at 13, and there are 17 left.  At least one of the 4 upcoming boots will be Terry, so there's only 3 more that are going to be heading to tribal and getting their torches snuffed.  Woo voted for Abi 2 of the 3 times he's gone to TC, so I think that was her arrogant way of letting him know he's been unsuccessful at  getting rid of her (and maybe he should stop, because clearly it ain't working).  I like the suggestion someone made that whatever way the vote seems to be going in Woo's eyes, he should do the opposite.  Maybe he'll finally be in with the in-crowd.

 

Abi and Woo are two wildcards.  There's nothing to indicate either make the merge or make it past the next vote, minus the one screen shot of Woo standing next to a crying Tasha.  There is also nothing to confirm Savage or Varner make it to the merge, beyond that one post game photo of Joe/Kimmi (and the only reason I believe it was post game was Kimmi's face looked different from when the game started due to weight loss).  But Varner's face looked the same as it does now, maybe a little fuller (I think it could have been the close up that made it seem that way).  I know that the pre-jury crowds head home separately from the merge/jury crowd, but could Varner have possibly caught up with the jury crew at the airport and that's where he snapped the pic?  Anyway, given the drama he's talking about with Tasha (if it is legit and not him trolling), I don't think enough has happened yet.  For now, I'm saying he is safe, and Savage/Woo/Abi are the most vulnerable on Angkor.

 

I think I asked this before, but I'm assuming if Terry is pulled from the game, they aren't also going to do another boot that episode, correct?

Edited October 8, 2015 by LadyChatts

[anthonyd46]

We know the merge is happening at 13, and there are 17 left.  At least one of the 4 upcoming boots will be Terry, so there's only 3 more that are going to be heading to tribal and getting their torches snuffed.  Woo voted for Abi 2 of the 3 times he's gone to TC, so I think that was her arrogant way of letting him know he's been unsuccessful at  getting rid of her (and maybe he should stop, because clearly it ain't working).  I like the suggestion someone made that whatever way the vote seems to be going in Woo's eyes, he should do the opposite.  Maybe he'll finally be in with the in-crowd.

 

Abi and Woo are two wildcards.  There's nothing to indicate either make the merge or make it past the next vote, minus the one screen shot of Woo standing next to a crying Tasha.  There is also nothing to confirm Savage or Varner make it to the merge, beyond that one post game photo of Joe/Kimmi (and the only reason I believe it was post game was Kimmi's face looked different from when the game started due to weight loss).  But Varner's face looked the same as it does now, maybe a little fuller (I think it could have been the close up that made it seem that way).  I know that the pre-jury crowds head home separately from the merge/jury crowd, but could Varner have possibly caught up with the jury crew at the airport and that's where he snapped the pic?  Anyway, given the drama he's talking about with Tasha (if it is legit and not him trolling), I don't think enough has happened yet.  For now, I'm saying he is safe, and Savage/Woo/Abi are the most vulnerable on Angkor.

 

I think I asked this before, but I'm assuming if Terry is pulled from the game, they aren't also going to do another boot that episode, correct?

Theres always a double boot in a 20 person season. It happens everytime. I can't see this one being different. So it probably will be a boot + terry. Plus if the calendar is right we will get the 4th boot night 12 then the morning of day 13 terry will leave can't see them wasting a whole episode on an entire survivor day. 

 

Palau Wanda/Jonathan then Jolanda in episode 1. Second time is in Episode 5 Willard Angie The Janu quit got the whole episode, but it did happen at TC.

Cook Islands Episode 6 Cai Boi / Cristina Episode 9 Rebecca/Jenny

FVF Episode 6 Penner (Med Evac)/Chet Episode 7 Kathy (quit)/Tracy Episode 11 James(med evac)/Alexis

Samoa Episode 2 Mike (Med Evac) / Betsy Episode 12 Dave/Monica (Russell Swan was evaced in episode 6 and no other boot)

HVV Episode 6 Tyson/James Episode 12 Candice/Danielle

Nicaragua Episode 6 Kelly B/Eve Episode 11 Nanoka/Kelly  S (Double quit)

Camaroan Episode 4 Shamar (Med Evac)/Laura Episode 12 Reynold/Andrea

BVW Episode 1 LauraB/Candice/Marissa Episode 3 Colton (quit)/John Episode 9 Vytas/Tina

 

Thats all the double boots. The only time there wasn't another one booted was Russell in Samoa. So most likely there will be another just no time in 20 person seasons to not double boot.

[LadyChatts]

Thanks anthony!  I forgot that a lot of those were double boot episodes.

 

So the biggest wild cards besides 3 of the Angkor members are still Kass, Ciera, Monica, Stephen, and Kelly Wigles.  Hard to believe there's a chance Kass might actually make the merge.  Who knew at the start of the season that was a remote possibility?  If Ta'Keo loses Terry and still heads to TC, I can't believe Kelley won't use her idol, unless she feels super confident she's not the target.  She mentioned in the secret scene clip that she would take Joe out when she needed to, so I'm wondering if she and her idol will end up getting him out.

[cooksdelight]

Per Seinfeld, Woo needs to learn how to be Opposite George.

[anthonyd46]

New info today via Redmond and Press Photos:

 

Inside Survivor can reveal that at the Final 14, the remaining castaways will switch back from three tribes to two tribes. This is sure to shake things up and cause last minute scrambling as the castaways head into the merge portion of the game.

 

So that means we will have two more boots plus the terry quit before a tribe switch. 

 

Also the bag challenge is new episode. It is a reward challenge, however, it is also an individual challenge in a way. 

 

 

 

Each tribe selects one "hero" they call it to run the challenge. This is a 1 v 1 v 1 challenge. It is Savage vs Jeremy vs Terry . Even though we have finally seen this if Tasha doesn't cry episode then Savage is still safe. 

[LadyChatts]

Wow, they aren't messing around the twists this season.  I wonder if there's a reason they are switching back, or if that was the plan all along (and will it be people go back to their original tribes).  

 

I'm surprised Terry is the one running that challenge and not Joe (unless they didn't want to have to sit Joe out at the IC).  How do we know that Andrew is safe in the Tasha crying scene?  I only saw Woo in that clip.  Also, I'm wondering if that is in fact due to Terry leaving or if it is her breaking point at Angkor.  Given the conditions they are under, plus still being in the minority numbers wise, maybe that caused her to break down.

[cooksdelight]

Wow, they aren't messing around the twists this season.  I wonder if there's a reason they are switching back, or if that was the plan all along (and will it be people go back to their original tribes).  

 

As I've mentioned in the main episode thread, this show is planned out for every challenge, every twist, on the drawing board before anyone arrives. They cannot all of a sudden decide to change things. It's impossible when you think of the amount of crew, man hours that are spent building the challenges, etc.

[Dust Bunny]

I wonder if some of the unspoiled people posting in the episode threads who dislike Terry and want him voted off are going to feel bad when they find out why he leaves the show. The observer in me is going to keep an eye out for that.

[ProfCrash]

I will feel bad for why he leaves but that doesn't change the fact that I don't care for Terry on the show. I would prefer him be voted out but I won't miss him on my TV set.

[anthonyd46]

I wonder if some of the unspoiled people posting in the episode threads who dislike Terry and want him voted off are going to feel bad when they find out why he leaves the show. The observer in me is going to keep an eye out for that.

Most of the unspoiled I've seen have him in their top 5 winner rankings

As I've mentioned in the main episode thread, this show is planned out for every challenge, every twist, on the drawing board before anyone arrives. They cannot all of a sudden decide to change things. It's impossible when you think of the amount of crew, man hours that are spent building the challenges, etc.

Yes Cooks is exactly right. Especially with 3 to 2. Obviously if the tribes stayed at 3 different story. That would awesome if they had to go back to their original tribes i dont think thats ever happened. 

[RealityWatAConcept]

Lesson Learned from "We Got a Rat" Episode: Never underestimate the cattiness and vengeance of a crazy woman.

 

PG never had a chance when Abi was gunning for her. 

 

Maybe lesson number two for the 'spoiler' crowd, sometimes we get so wrapped up in the 'hidden' and 'uncovered' tips we can't see the obvious. Once PG and Abi ended up on the same tribe, a tribe that appeared to be weaker physically in an obvious physical challenge, it was over. The crazy was going to be dominant and it was only a matter of which one of the girls would go. It appeared that Abi communicated first that she would align herself fully with Savage and Tasha so she was the choice.

 

BTW: Really enjoy this forum. Kudos to LadyChatts, anthonyd46 and cooksdelight as moderator for the discussions.

[anthonyd46]

Thanks for the compliment. I agree yea we might get caught up too much in the clues sometimes, but I think most of the screen caps will be done by episode 5 anyway.

 

Heres the tease for this week:

 

Three castaways leave it all on the beach in a gut-wrenching challenge, and two castaways plead for their lives in the game at a heated tribal council. Also, Abi-Maria continues to ruffle feathers with her tribe,

[cooksdelight]

One of the things with Abi that may get her in trouble now and then is her oftentimes mangling of words or sentences, since English isn't her first language. That might be why she over-tries, for lack of a better word, to get her point across. When I was in France, I'm pretty sure I said something that really pissed someone off, judging from the look on his face. :)

[LadyChatts]

Going by that description it sounds like Angkor may be headed to TC yet again.  I'm ruling out Ta'Keo.  It is possible it could be Bayon, and maybe it comes down to Stephen and Spencer pleading for help.  The two castaways pleading for their lives could really be anyone on Angkor.  How funny if Abi once again escapes fate and controls the vote.  Once that crying intro pic of Tasha is out of the way, I got nothing until the merge.  Then I'll be watching Kelley and Kimmi (if both make it) to see when they start looking like their emaciated post game pics.

 

I thought PG might go this week from Angkor; I figured it would be between her and Abi, if the Tasha crying intro wasn't in this ep and the bag challenge that is happening next week.  But there was PG weight loss and infection, so I barely counted her out.  Should have gone with instinct lol  I'll also thank you for the compliment.  I'd rather have accurate, concrete spoilers to go on, but playing detective and seeing just how wrong I was can be fun, too.

Edited October 9, 2015 by LadyChatts

[anthonyd46]

Going by that description it sounds like Angkor may be headed to TC yet again.  I'm ruling out Ta'Keo.  It is possible it could be Bayon, and maybe it comes down to Stephen and Spencer pleading for help.  The two castaways pleading for their lives could really be anyone on Angkor.  How funny if Abi once again escapes fate and controls the vote.  Once that crying intro pic of Tasha is out of the way, I got nothing until the merge.  Then I'll be watching Kelley and Kimmi (if both make it) to see when they start looking like their emaciated post game pics.

 

I thought PG might go this week from Angkor; I figured it would be between her and Abi, if the Tasha crying intro wasn't in this ep and the bag challenge that is happening next week.  But there was PG weight loss and infection, so I barely counted her out.  Should have gone with instinct lol  I'll also thank you for the compliment.  I'd rather have accurate, concrete spoilers to go on, but playing detective and seeing just how wrong I was can be fun, too.

Only reason I am not eliminating Ta Keo just yet is that tribe is very confident right now and picking Terry over Joe is a very odd decision for that reward challenge. I feel like a loss in that challenge can spiral them out of control to the point of heated confrontation. We know Terry can get very into himself sometimes and that doesn't lead to good things.

[RealityWatAConcept]

Playing detective is certainly a great deal of the fun. That and 'monday morning quarterbacking' as well.

 

Over on Xfinity's exit interview Peih-Gee had an interesting comment, she says that Tasha yelled out "it shouldn't have been you tonight, It should have been Jeff." And then saying it would have only bought her three more days." Does this mean that Angkor losses again and she definitely knew she would not have survived another TC? I'm hard pressed to come up with her reasoning on that score, but maybe it means that Abi is again calling the shots in the next TC and she wouldn't have survived two TCs with Abi in charge? At the very least this further illuminates the bad feelings that Jeff has for Tasha.

 

So the question is, who (whom? or even Woo?) will Abi be gunning after if indeed Angkor goes to TC next week? And at this point, it seems a done deal that Angkor will continue to lose challenges.

[Skeeter22]

I wonder if the tribes who have an extra person have to sit out the guy who ran the reward challenge. That would explain why Terry was picked and they saved Joe for the immunity challenge.

I'm not sure where they're going with Jeff. He's unquestionably been the narrator so far, and they've really used him to define the theme of "second chances". They might be setting him up to be a shocking pre-jury boot, or he somehow gets out the hole he's dug himself on Angkor. I can't see Angkor escaping several tribal councils, even if they get a reprieve when Terry leaves. I think they'll have to lose at least one person.

I'm also curious about Stephen. I feel like he'll be in danger if his tribe goes to tribal council, but I can't help but feel he's been set up as a foil for Savage. I feel like they have to have some further confrontation to explain the edit.

[RealityWatAConcept]

Not sure if Joe would be one to 'plead for his life' if Anthony's reasoning on Ta Keo potentially losing is correct. Seems to me Joe would fall victim to a blindside and not outright know that he was one of two going home.

[anthonyd46]

Not sure if Joe would be one to 'plead for his life' if Anthony's reasoning on Ta Keo potentially losing is correct. Seems to me Joe would fall victim to a blindside and not outright know that he was one of two going home.

Sorry if I Made that confusing. Terry for would be on the block for failing the challenge and Since the Bayon 4 are like glue Kelley would be fighting for her life with him however Kelley has the power of the idol. Remember we got that scene of Kelley saying she would literally kick terry under the bus this week? Thats enough fighting for your life comparison for me. Joe is not fighting for his life sorry if I made that unclear. It would be Kelley vs Terry which we had seeds of this week.

Edited October 9, 2015 by anthonyd46

[wonald]

I wonder if the tribes who have an extra person have to sit out the guy who ran the reward challenge. That would explain why Terry was picked and they saved Joe for the immunity challenge.

 

 

No, they dont. You can see in the previews who sits out in the IC.

 

 

 

I'm not sure where they're going with Jeff. He's unquestionably been the narrator so far, and they've really used him to define the theme of "second chances". They might be setting him up to be a shocking pre-jury boot, or he somehow gets out the hole he's dug himself on Angkor. I can't see Angkor escaping several tribal councils, even if they get a reprieve when Terry leaves. I think they'll have to lose at least one person.

 

I would not say that Varner is the definition of Second Chance over any other. He is undoubtly the star of the season but there has been all star seasons where the star went early. See BRob in HvV.

[anthonyd46]

No, they dont. You can see in the previews who sits out in the IC.

 

 

 

I would not say that Varner is the definition of Second Chance over any other. He is undoubtly the star of the season but there has been all star seasons where the star went early. See BRob in HvV.

Thats true also since we now know they merge at 14 theres only 3 people that get voted out between now and swap 2 at 14. One of them is a Terry quit. So only two other people will be voted out between now and then. The maximum number of members Angkor can lose between now and the swap is two.

[Paron Xanthis]

Thats true also since we now know they merge at 14 theres only 3 people that get voted out between now and swap 2 at 14. One of them is a Terry quit. So only two other people will be voted out between now and then. The maximum number of members Angkor can lose between now and the swap is two.

I'm confused.  Are they merging at F14 or just swapping back to two tribes at F14?  I'd thought the merge was at F13.

[LanceM]

My understanding from the spoilers is that they are swapping the three tribes back into two tribes at 14 and then merging at 13.

[anthonyd46]

My understanding from the spoilers is that they are swapping the three tribes back into two tribes at 14 and then merging at 13.

They are going back to two tribes at 14 for one single round one person will be booted then a merge at 13.

 

So the schedule is this

 

Episode 4 17th place booted

Episode 5 Terry quits (16th place) & 15th place booted

Episode 6 2 Tribes of 7 for one episode 14th place booted

Episode 7 Merge at 13

 

So as I stated there are TWO boots other than terry before the Final 14 swap. (17th place and 15th place)

Edited October 9, 2015 by anthonyd46

[LadyChatts]

Only reason I am not eliminating Ta Keo just yet is that tribe is very confident right now and picking Terry over Joe is a very odd decision for that reward challenge. I feel like a loss in that challenge can spiral them out of control to the point of heated confrontation. We know Terry can get very into himself sometimes and that doesn't lead to good things.

 

I did find it odd that they would pick Terry over Joe; I thought not wanting to sit Joe out for the IC might have been the reason, but that obviously isn't it.  Saving his strength?  Terry wants to prove himself?  Joe realizes he should try and finally not appear to be a threat?  I don't know.  I guess it could be Ta'Keo if it turns into Kelley and Terry going at each other.  And Kelley not wanting to out she has the idol, so she tries turning it all on Terry.  Yet, if old Bayon thinks Terry might have the idol, would they not then vote for Kelley (or force a tie I suppose).  However, unless Terry's family was lying about him still being in the game to throw people off (since the part about him leaving was revealed), it would still have to be someone from old Bayon, and Kelley's idol would have to come into play.  Since this last episode had the Bayon 4 at Bayon looking for the idol and promising to share it, I still wouldn't rule out Stephen or Monica realizing they are on the chopping block and pleading alongside one of the old Ta'Keo members whose name is being thrown around.  Hey, Monica finally got another confessional, maybe they are leading up to her being booted.  

 

At Angkor, I think it could come down to any of them.  Even Woo at this point, who may say they need him for strength.  

[anthonyd46]

I did find it odd that they would pick Terry over Joe; I thought not wanting to sit Joe out for the IC might have been the reason, but that obviously isn't it.  Saving his strength?  Terry wants to prove himself?  Joe realizes he should try and finally not appear to be a threat?  I don't know.  I guess it could be Ta'Keo if it turns into Kelley and Terry going at each other.  And Kelley not wanting to out she has the idol, so she tries turning it all on Terry.  Yet, if old Bayon thinks Terry might have the idol, would they not then vote for Kelley (or force a tie I suppose).  However, unless Terry's family was lying about him still being in the game to throw people off (since the part about him leaving was revealed), it would still have to be someone from old Bayon, and Kelley's idol would have to come into play.  Since this last episode had the Bayon 4 at Bayon looking for the idol and promising to share it, I still wouldn't rule out Stephen or Monica realizing they are on the chopping block and pleading alongside one of the old Ta'Keo members whose name is being thrown around.  Hey, Monica finally got another confessional, maybe they are leading up to her being booted.  

 

At Angkor, I think it could come down to any of them.  Even Woo at this point, who may say they need him for strength.  

Yes it really could be all 3 tribes when you think bout it. Maybe Jeremy slips his idol secret somehow where its revealed he has it and the rest get annoyed he didn't tell the alliance? 

Edited October 9, 2015 by anthonyd46

[Oscirus]

It had Jeremy winning not Spencer.

 

I believe you're talking about this list.

 

PreJury (in order)

Vytas
Shirin
PeihGee
Jeff
Monica
Terry (evac)
Woo

Jury (close to order)

Kass
Stephen
Kelly
Ciera
Andrew
Joe
Keith
Abi (fv)
Kimmi (fv)
Kelley (fv)

Final 3

Tasha
Spencer
Jeremy (w)

 

I'm not sure how I feel about it's validity yet.