S05.E13: Sister Act

[Betweenyouandme]

If Kim's hospital stay had anything to do with mental health, I think it's a very valid choice to not disclose what happened. I don't know that it was. I'm just saying that if it was, I'd do the same thing. And, if it was, I really, really hope Kyle or Brandi don't spill the beans later. It seems like if it was, it was "voluntary."

[Watermelon]

I doubt she was in the hospital any longer than 3 days. Kim is a lying liar who lies and can't keep her lies straight.

[zoeysmom]

If Kim's hospital stay had anything to do with mental health, I think it's a very valid choice to not disclose what happened. I don't know that it was. I'm just saying that if it was, I'd do the same thing. And, if it was, I really, really hope Kyle or Brandi don't spill the beans later. It seems like if it was, it was "voluntary."

Cedars Sinai no longer has a psych unit.  Having said that it is entirely possible that they spent 5 days getting her to an even keel.  Kim has to stop getting so butt offended when her real life medical problems collide with filming.  We see the new boobs and we see the erratic  behavior.   There is just too much coincidence that her medication errors occur  only during the 12 weeks or so they film each year.  BTW since when is three years sober-new in one's sobriety?

Edited February 16, 2015 by zoeysmom

[AnnA]

 

Kim wrote in her blog that she was hospitalized for 9 days, she then told Brandi that it was 6-7 days then she told the Lisa's and Eileen that it was 5 days. Her explanation was that she "coughed and heard a pop", screamed in pain and then Monty drove her to the hospital for how ever long. She claims to have suffered a broken rib, a ruptured disc and a hiatal hernia from that 1 cough. Mind you, she was seen smoking a cigar the night before at Eileen's poker party, yelling, kicking at Lisa R in the limo, all with no coughing at all.

 

She did not have any surgery, at least she has not claimed to have had any during her hospital stay. Her whole story is suspect IMO.

 

If Kim had a broken rib, ruptured disk and hiatal hernia she would have been laid up at home for weeks after being released from the hospital.  It's hard to judge the timeframe between filming these episodes but it seemed like she came from the hospital one day and went to Kyle's gay mixer the next day.

Edited February 16, 2015 by AnnA

[Persnickety1]

If Kim had a broken rib, reptured disk and hiatal hernia she would have been laid up at home for weeks after being released from the hospital.  It's hard to judge the timeframe between filming these episodes but it seemed like she came from the hospital one day and went to Kyle's gay mixer the next day.

 

Agreed.

 

I've even had documentation where a patient had more than one fractured rib and was given pain meds, instructions on how to handle the injury, and sent on their merry way to go straight home, treat themselves, and let the rib(s) heal.  There's really no other treatment for fractured ribs except time to heal.

 

I'm assuming if she had a fractured rib, they might have run a CT scan on her to make sure she didn't have a pneumothorax, hemothorax, or other suspicious findings.  Then again, they might have been been able to rule that out with a simple chest x-ray.

 

Hiatal hernia?  Most of the clinicians I work with don't even prescribe pain medications for it, as most narcotics can also cause problems with constipation, the last thing someone already suffering from a painful condition would want.  They prescribe Zantac, Pepcid, or some other treatment, instruct the patient in dietary guidelines, and, again, send them on their merry way with a prescription to get better at home.

 

By "ruptured disk," I assume Kim means herniated disk.  Yeah, here again, unless it's an acute injury, you're going to be sent on your merry way home with a prescription for pain medication, perhaps a referral to a specialist, instructions on how to treat the herniation at home, and sent on your merry way.

 

I don't believe for one minute that any of the 3 above conditions warranted even a 5-day stay for Kim, much less a 9-day stay.

 

The most I've seen a clinician do is admit a patient for a 23-hour observation period to get their pain under control intravenously, then discharge them with a prescription for an oral pain medication.

 

I'm also pretty sure nothing of what Kim has described would warrant prescribing her a fentanyl patch, either.

 

Like everything else apparently about Kim's life, her story is sketchy, shady, and more than a little suspect.  

[WireWrap]

If Kim had a broken rib, ruptured disk and hiatal hernia she would have been laid up at home for weeks after being released from the hospital.  It's hard to judge the timeframe between filming these episodes but it seemed like she came from the hospital one day and went to Kyle's gay mixer the next day.

I think the mixer was 2 days after she got out. Both Kyle and Brandi went to visit her the day after she was released. Kyle went in the morning, Kim was in bed when they talked, Brandi went in the afternoon the same day as Kyle. They showed Kim standing on a chair reaching up to do something right before Brandi arrived despite having a "hiatal hernia, broken rib and ruptured disc"! LOL I really think Monty took her to A hospital for an evaluation because of the meds she was high on! Does Kim mention what hospital she went to or just say "A" hospital? LOL

 

ETA Kim does not say which hospital in her blog that week and I do not remember her saying which hospital on the show.

Edited February 16, 2015 by WireWrap

[AnnA]

I think the mixer was 2 days after she got out. Both Kyle and Brandi went to visit her the day after she was released. Kyle went in the morning, Kim was in bed when they talked, Brandi went in the afternoon the same day as Kyle. They showed Kim standing on a chair reaching up to do something right before Brandi arrived despite having a "hiatal hernia, broken rib and ruptured disc"! LOL I really think Monty took her to A hospital for an evaluation because of the meds she was high on! Does Kim mention what hospital she went to or just say "A" hospital? LOL

 

ETA Kim does not say which hospital in her blog that week and I do not remember her saying which hospital on the show.

 

I saw Kyle's visit but missed seeing Kim standing on a chair before Brandi arrived.  There's no way she'd be doing that if she had half of the injuries she claimed to have.  That information proves Kim is lying and lying has always been one of my pet peeves.  I couldn't even begin to count how many times I've told my sons that your word is the only thing you truly own in life........be proud of it and make it count.  They're both adults and out on their own now but every now and then something comes up and I say it again.

Edited February 16, 2015 by AnnA

[EVS]

FWIW, My husband had pneumonia. He cracked 3 ribs coughing and developed pleurisy also. He was in the hospital for 3 nights on IV meds. Then they sent him home with antibiotics, steroids and pain pills. He took the pain pills for maybe a week. He had a bad cough for the next couple months. The ribs took almost a year to heal completely.

Kim seems to have some knowledge of a similar situation. My bet is Kim either knew someone who had pneumonia and used a version of their story or she had previously had something like bronchitis and maybe strained a rib and exaggerated to cover for the real reason why she took pain meds and was hospitalized.

[msblossom]

msblossom - You quoted only a part of my post. My entire comment was in response to why Kyle bothers to trying to speak to her sister as if she is of healthy mind. My response was, Kyle reacts to Kim's addiction/behavior because it is Kyle's own repetitive behavior towards her sister that many people exhibit when dealing with the addict. Never did I comment that it is helpful, merely giving my own personal insight on how some people deal with the addict in their life.

GreatKazu, I think you're misunderstanding bc I wasnt implying that what you were saying about Kyle's crying-yelling was helpful; your post was clearly about Kyle's reaction and frustration in dealing with a sister with an addiction, along with others who identify with it.

I quoted you in response to all the cry-yelling Kyle does. Not that you endorsed it. :)

[breezy424]

Just to clarify, Kyle said to Mauricio when she was telling him about Kim being in the hospital that Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai.  Also, to my knowledge, it was never said what 'kind' of patch Kim was supposedly remember.  This has all been speculation.

 

Lastly, when Brandi had her conversation with Kim the day after she got out of the hospital,  Brandi had said something about seeing Kim after her 'procedure'.  Of course a procedure could be many different things.  I thought it may have been an endoscopy given that Kyle said in that same conversation with Mauricio that they didn't know what was wrong and suspected an ulcer.

 

Now here's the speculation question:  Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai but did she stay there for five, six, seven, eight days or did she go someplace else after being 'evaluated'.  She was handling her 'pain' very well at the mixer.  I don't know.  I do know (and I've said this before) hospitals don't keep you for even three days unless they think something is very seriously wrong.  You get sent home or to a rehabilitation center for physical therapy or monitoring. 

[WireWrap]

Just to clarify, Kyle said to Mauricio when she was telling him about Kim being in the hospital that Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai.  Also, to my knowledge, it was never said what 'kind' of patch Kim was supposedly remember.  This has all been speculation.

 

Lastly, when Brandi had her conversation with Kim the day after she got out of the hospital,  Brandi had said something about seeing Kim after her 'procedure'.  Of course a procedure could be many different things.  I thought it may have been an endoscopy given that Kyle said in that same conversation with Mauricio that they didn't know what was wrong and suspected an ulcer.

 

Now here's the speculation question:  Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai but did she stay there for five, six, seven, eight days or did she go someplace else after being 'evaluated'.  She was handling her 'pain' very well at the mixer.  I don't know.  I do know (and I've said this before) hospitals don't keep you for even three days unless they think something is very seriously wrong.  You get sent home or to a rehabilitation center for physical therapy or monitoring. 

The number of days she spent in the hospital varies upon who she is telling. She writes in her blog, to us, that she spent 9 days in the hospital. She tells Brandi that it was 6-7 days, then tells the Lisas and Eileen it was 5 days! lol From what I remember, she just said that she heard a pop, screamed and Monty took her to the hospital. Only Kyle says which hospital, I will take your word because I honestly don't remember lol, and that they are doing tests on Kim. Kim herself says nothing beyond her list of hernia/rib/disc and her varying number of days in the hospital.

 

Brandi did say that Kim had or was using a "patch" for her "hernia" when she was distracting Lisa R with tales about Kim. When Brandi said "procedure" she got an Oh shit kind of look on her face, like she was not supposed to mention that and she quickly moved on from it. I don't see Brandi calling an Endoscopy a "procedure", IMO she would refer to it as a test like most lay people do.

 

Kim was under the influence of something at the mixer. Her speech was slurry, her eyes were glazed, she was unsteady on her feet/heals and she was confused. She was like that at her house when Kyle then Brandi saw her. Most likely it was pain meds but that is just my opinion and an educated guess.

[EVS]

Number of days spent in hospital/ number of times your dog tried to kill someone/number of hours spent mixing chicken salad with your hands or praying to garbage cans-all easy to confuse when you are high on your dying ex-husband's pain meds. No wonder the number kept changing.

Edited because it's hard to form a coherent thought in the middle of the night, especially with a nasty cold plus insomnia.

Edited February 16, 2015 by EVS

[Nanny pants]

Regarding Max and the birth family, my nephew was adopted as an infant. My sister and her husband never kept the details a secret, but gave him information only when he asked. From age 10 through high school, nephew would bring up his birth mother ONLY when he was being nasty and wanted to get under my sister's skin (it worked). You know, "Well, then I'll just go live with my REAL mother," kind of thing. Interestingly, as an adult (he's now 23) his "curiosity" has waned. Never hear him mention it. I imagine when he marries and has children of his own he'll be more interested, but right now, not really.

[zoeysmom]

The number of days she spent in the hospital varies upon who she is telling. She writes in her blog, to us, that she spent 9 days in the hospital. She tells Brandi that it was 6-7 days, then tells the Lisas and Eileen it was 5 days! lol From what I remember, she just said that she heard a pop, screamed and Monty took her to the hospital. Only Kyle says which hospital, I will take your word because I honestly don't remember lol, and that they are doing tests on Kim. Kim herself says nothing beyond her list of hernia/rib/disc and her varying number of days in the hospital.

 

Brandi did say that Kim had or was using a "patch" for her "hernia" when she was distracting Lisa R with tales about Kim. When Brandi said "procedure" she got an Oh shit kind of look on her face, like she was not supposed to mention that and she quickly moved on from it. I don't see Brandi calling an Endoscopy a "procedure", IMO she would refer to it as a test like most lay people do.

 

Kim was under the influence of something at the mixer. Her speech was slurry, her eyes were glazed, she was unsteady on her feet/heals and she was confused. She was like that at her house when Kyle then Brandi saw her. Most likely it was pain meds but that is just my opinion and an educated guess.

I always got the impression that Kim's hernia and disc were maybe preexisting conditions and with her complaints of  pain were just part of the complete ailment picture.  I am quite certain her procedures were upper and lower GIs if they were originally trying to rule out an ulcer.  I just get the impression that Monty had ditched out for a few days and Kim was mad because she had one less source of attention and support for her.  Again the last thing Kim wanted to do was go to Poker Night and she was bribed as much as anything with some feel good medicine.  Kim has always been a bit of a hypochondriac or at least made up health excuses to get out of responsibilities or explain away her drug use or medication mix up.

 

Eileen's Poker Party was on a Friday night (maybe the 29th of August) and I am thinking Lisa R party was either the following Wednesday or Thursday.  Eileen's premiere was September 13th.  Which leaves the Gay Mixer in the middle of all that.  Onwards and upwards to Canada on the 27th so I am wondering when Kim would have had an 11 day break in filming.  Kim's dishonesty or inability to track time is disconcerting and just leaves her credibility at zero.

 

I have no doubt Kim would sell a pain patch as a doctor's prescription to Brandi or Kyle it just may not be her doctor.

Edited February 16, 2015 by zoeysmom

[zoeysmom]

http://www.allabouttrh.com/brandi-glanville-slams-lisa-vanderpump/  I am not certain what Brandi expects from Lisav.  I think for the most part she has been pretty straightforward with Brandi and stayed out of her way.  As a paid participant and observer of RHOBH, it just seems odd that Brandi keeps bringing up on and off the show that the others are talking about her.  It reminds me of two kids in the back seat of the car and one having a meltdown because the other is looking at him.

 

This episode is a continuing example of how Brandi has isolated herself from the others.  Although driving all the way to Malibu for yoga classes seems like a bit of a stretch it is the corner Brandi has painted herself into.  Imagine not being on the Burbank International Film Festival guest list.  That has to be hard for Brandi to swallow because the more the RH are involved in public events the greater the opportunity for personal appearances something Brandi seems to be sorely lacking since Hard Rock Hotel cancelled her appearance after her racist remarks last season.  No tour for the release of her paperback all these things start adding up so Brandi should be grateful of any mention by any of the more relevant women on the show.

[hottesthw]

I'm with you we should give Yolanda a pass regarding the blog due to her Lyme disease flare up. Though I'd like to see her recent thoughts about Brandi bringing up that Bella could be an alcoholic! If Brandi is right that her best friend Kim is an addict I suppose she also should be excused from writing a blog. The last blog Kim posted was January 28th, so she's not that behind.

 

I think Yo is handling Brandi perfectly in this situation regarding her daughter. She shut her down on camera and hasn't mentioned it again on tv or a blog. Fuck Brandi, don't give her drunk ass one more minute of attention. I wish they all would follow her lead.

Edited February 16, 2015 by Lisin
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[Umbelina]

I'm still wondering about the "procedure" comment from Brandi.

 

Honestly, I can believe that Kim was getting over pneumonia, and even that it cause a cracked rib, that became more noticeable or worsened over time or with strain.  Many people her age also have bulging disks, and they can act up anytime, and be quite disabling at times.  The hernia?  Maybe.  None of those would be likely to cause a longish hospital stay though.

 

What kind of "procedure" would Kim not want people to know about?  I can think of many, including a hysterectomy for various reasons, some of which could be quite painful, or possibly dangerous, and might keep her in the hospital for a while.  I also wonder, does anyone know when she got her new boobs?  Maybe a complication from that if her pneumonia came on soon after the surgery and she was violently coughing?  I can't see Kim wanting to tell the truth about ANY "female parts" type surgery, so I'm kind of leaning to those as possibilities.

 

She so wants to still be "young" and get parts (like Revenge) and it wasn't so long ago she delusionally talked about having more kids.  I think it would embarrass her to discuss pumping up the boobs, or removing ovaries or whatever. 

Edited February 16, 2015 by Umbelina

[WireWrap]

I'm still wondering about the "procedure" comment from Brandi.

 

Honestly, I can believe that Kim was getting over pneumonia, and even that it cause a cracked rib, that became more noticeable or worsened over time or with strain.  Many people her age also have bulging disks, and they can act up anytime, and be quite disabling at times.  The hernia?  Maybe.  None of those would be likely to cause a longish hospital stay though.

 

What kind of "procedure" would Kim not want people to know about?  I can think of many, including a hysterectomy for various reasons, some of which could be quite painful, or possibly dangerous, and might keep her in the hospital for a while.  I also wonder, does anyone know when she got her new boobs?  Maybe a complication from that if her pneumonia came on soon after the surgery and she was violently coughing?  I can't see Kim wanting to tell the truth about ANY "female parts" type surgery, so I'm kind of leaning to those as possibilities.

 

She so wants to still be "young" and get parts (like Revenge) and it wasn't so long ago she delusionally talked about having more kids.  I think it would embarrass her to discuss pumping up the boobs, or removing ovaries or whatever. 

If Kim was in the hospital because of the "pneumonia" the photo I posted in her thread, that she tweeted, would have shown an oxygen tube on her or on her bed. It is not there nor is there a tube coming out of the wall at the oxygen hook up. JS

[Umbelina]

The pneumonia was over.  She wouldn't have needed oxygen if it was just at the occasional coughing stage.  She could have cracked the rib during that though, and it became worse later.

 

IF any of that was true.

[GreatKazu]

I thought YoFo had stopped the Bella DUI talk because the less attention she brings to it, the less attention is brought to the fact that YoFo blatantly lied about the facts of that DUI arrest. A lot of people take what YoFo says as the truth, without ever reading about the facts. I know someone who does not read TMZ, they do not get the other information via websites such as most of us do when a story is linked here. When I informed this person about the facts of Bella's DUI arrest, they were shocked, and they wondered why YoFo lied on the show. So, YoFo shutting Brandi down over the Bella alcoholic talk, as good as that was in order to keep Brandi from deflecting, I felt it also was a move by YoFo to let Brandi know that Bella's DUI is a topic that should never be mentioned again since YoFo did her best to sweep that under the rug. To mention it again in her blog only draws attention to that DUI and that YoFo lied about the facts.

Edited February 16, 2015 by GreatKazu

[WireWrap]

The pneumonia was over.  She wouldn't have needed oxygen if it was just at the occasional coughing stage.  She could have cracked the rib during that though, and it became worse later.

 

IF any of that was true.

I replied to your comment that she was hospitalized to "get over Pneumonia" which would mean the use of oxygen as would coughing so hard that you broke a rib, ruptured a disc and gave yourself a hiatal hernia, all of which Kim claimed happened when she coughed hard and then heard a "pop" sound (her words in her blog, not mine). When you cough that hard you have trouble getting enough oxygen so it would have/should have been seen in the photo. It doesn't help her story that for the 2 or so weeks she was filmed prior to the hospital stay, there was zero coughing, not even a throat clearing sound was heard from Kim. LOL

 

I really believe the hospital stay had nothing to do with any pneumonia/bronchitis and that explanation is nothing more than a cover story for a bad drug reaction or a possible overdose. JMO though because we will never hear the truth from Kim about any of this.

[Umbelina]

She never said she was hospitalized for pneumonia, did she?  She said she was hospitalized for the complications she suffered back WHEN she had it.  (Cracked rib, "hernia" and back issues.)

 

I still think it's something "female" if indeed she did have a "procedure."

[motorcitymom65]

She never said she was hospitalized for pneumonia, did she?  She said she was hospitalized for the complications she suffered back WHEN she had it.  (Cracked rib, "hernia" and back issues.)

 

I still think it's something "female" if indeed she did have a "procedure."

I don't think she was having anything done that she felt she had to cover for, like a "female" procedure. If that were the case, she would have just avoided filming during her lengthly stay. She absolutely wouldn't have been tweeting pictures out of herself in the hospital, because that is what really got the talk going late in the Fall. I am not convinced she was sick at all, because have others have pointed out, she wasn't showing any signs of a person with the symptoms she mentioned the night before at the Poker Game when she was puffing away on that cigar.  Also, the fact that she was reaching up in that closet when Brandi came to see her, tells me it wasn't any of the ailments she talked about. I think the hospital deal was a quick cover story for the way she behaved at the Poker Game.  She wanted to get in the hospital for some reason ASAP so she would have a cover for what we all saw. 

[talula]

She never said she was hospitalized for pneumonia, did she?  She said she was hospitalized for the complications she suffered back WHEN she had it.  (Cracked rib, "hernia" and back issues.)

 

I still think it's something "female" if indeed she did have a "procedure."

Here's an excerpt from Kim's blog. I think your right she had already had the pneumonia that's why there was no coughing. She was in pain from the coughing aftermath. The pain continued from her injuries driving her to seek medical attention.

"On the following day, my pain got even worse, so I spent the whole day getting tests done at the doctor’s. Next evening, I was admitted to the hospital. In my last blog post, I mentioned that I had been struggling with bronchitis and pneumonia for weeks. Well, the doctor said I had a fractured rib, ruptured disc, and hiatal hernia, which was caused by the increased pressure from coughing. No wonder I was in so much pain before poker night! I was in the hospital for nine days. But I’m happy to announce that I’m currently healthy and well! Even though my family and I are going through some tough times right now, I feel stronger than ever because I need to and want to be there for Monty, my daughters, and son."

[AnnA]

This is probably me nit-picking the wording Kim used in her blog but isn't it odd that she would say "my daughters and son?" Wouldn't most people say "my children?"

[portia7]

I'm about 14 yrs older than Kim and I had a hysterectomy plus a bladder suspension this fall. I was in the hospital about 30/32 hrs. No way she had a similar surgery and then 8 more days of in hospital care. Treat and street.

[WireWrap]

She never said she was hospitalized for pneumonia, did she?  She said she was hospitalized for the complications she suffered back WHEN she had it.  (Cracked rib, "hernia" and back issues.)

 

I still think it's something "female" if indeed she did have a "procedure."

My post was in response to what YOU said not what Kim said! LOL  If she had some "procedure" why and how did she get up on that chair reaching above herself for something the day after being released for the hospital. Kim is selling a cover story that will change as she sees fit. She is lying! LOL

 

I don't think she was having anything done that she felt she had to cover for, like a "female" procedure. If that were the case, she would have just avoided filming during her lengthly stay. She absolutely wouldn't have been tweeting pictures out of herself in the hospital, because that is what really got the talk going late in the Fall. I am not convinced she was sick at all, because have others have pointed out, she wasn't showing any signs of a person with the symptoms she mentioned the night before at the Poker Game when she was puffing away on that cigar.  Also, the fact that she was reaching up in that closet when Brandi came to see her, tells me it wasn't any of the ailments she talked about. I think the hospital deal was a quick cover story for the way she behaved at the Poker Game.  She wanted to get in the hospital for some reason ASAP so she would have a cover for what we all saw. 

Exactly!

Edited February 17, 2015 by WireWrap

[Umbelina]

How is she lying, she didn't say she had a procedure, that was a Brandi slip.

 

I'm just trying to look at all sides to this, and what would Kim fail to mention IF she had a procedure?  Maybe screwing up her new boobs?  Maybe cancer?  Maybe a female operation.  There are many possibilities.  I've never thought it odd that she wasn't on oxygen, yet it's been brought up many times.  She did say she was over the pneumonia, so why on earth is that "missing" from her hospital photo?

 

If Brandi only lies, why does anyone believe her about the patch?  Also then leap to the conclusion it's Fentayl, and then that she stole it as well?  Maybe she lied about the procedure as well, or Kim lied to her?

 

Anyway, just trying to break it all down to what may or may not be true.  We know she was in the hospital, we say the photo.  We don't know how long she was there.  We know what she said she had done, and what she said was wrong.  My question is, what would she lie about?

 

If it was rehab, I'd think Kyle would have been thrilled and been talking to her again, so cross that one off.  (etc)

Edited February 17, 2015 by Umbelina

[WireWrap]

How is she lying, she didn't say she had a procedure, that was a Brandi slip.

 

I'm just trying to look at all sides to this, and what would Kim fail to mention IF she had a procedure?  Maybe screwing up her new boobs?  Maybe cancer?  Maybe a female operation.  There are many possibilities.  I've never thought it odd that she wasn't on oxygen, yet it's been brought up many times.  She did say she was over the pneumonia, so why on earth is that "missing" from her hospital photo?

 

If Brandi only lies, why does anyone believe her about the patch?  Also then leap to the conclusion it's Fentayl, and then that she stole it as well?  Maybe she lied about the procedure as well, or Kim lied to her?

 

Anyway, just trying to break it all down to what may or may not be true.  We know she was in the hospital, we say the photo.  We don't know how long she was there.  We know what she said she had done, and what she said was wrong.  My question is, what would she lie about?

 

If it was rehab, I'd think Kyle would have been thrilled and been talking to her again, so cross that one off.  (etc)

All was fine between Kim and Kyle when Kim got out of the hospital though. The only one that has been revealing Kim's secrets is Brandi and you have to ask your self why, why put Kim on blast the way she is and why try to rip the sisters apart, what does Brandi get out of doing that?  Kim is an addict, she fell off the wagon when she took 1 of Monty's pain pills, it is 1 of many slips she has had over the last 3 years and she will continue to lie to cover up. It's the addict's way!

Edited February 17, 2015 by WireWrap

[talula]

My mother-in-law had a very painful hiatus hernia (another name for hiatal hernia). The pain was very bad...she didn't know what she had. The doctor sent her to the hospital...I think she was there for 5 days. They inserted a tube and stretched the area out. It was called a procedure...maybe they had to do something like that to Kim...maybe not. In the end I don't give a rats azz.

Edited February 17, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[Betweenyouandme]

This is probably me nit-picking the wording Kim used in her blog but isn't it odd that she would say "my daughters and son?" Wouldn't most people say "my children?"

I'm unsure of what this brings up to you. But, I'll share about my mother. She refers to me only as daughter or my name because I'm not a child technically anymore. I know a lot of people say their daughter or son will always be their child no matter how old they are. But, my mom and I aren't that emotionally close. I do see Kim as being close to her children. Is that why you see it as odd?

[talula]

Kim is mad at Kyle for some reason real or imagined. Is Kim a rational person...would you want her babysitting your grandchild? Probably not. Kyle has told us during a TH that maybe after all these years of going through everything with Kim she's had enough. Kim is clinging to Brandi like a lifesaver to torture the hell out of Kyle for real or perceived issues.

The two sisters have both had it with each other and need to get to their side of the ring for a time out.

Brandi says she's not a good person, not a professional, nor a sober companion. It makes her sad that Kim has reached out to her saying she was her best friend. Brandi says she never signed up for taking care of Kim and now she just can't drop her. This episode clearly demonstrates how uncomfortable Brandi is with being Kim's confident. Kim filled Brandi's head with her strong distrust of Kyle. Brandi's Neanderthal brain has gone into mama bear protection mode of Kim against Kyle.

Kyle should have been swinging from the chandelier that Kim was dependent on someone else for 6 months giving her a break from Kim's cray cray. Sister Kathy seems happy that Brandi has befriended Kim...why? It's because it gives her someone else to listen to Kim's problems.

Kim isn't in the middle--dumb ole Brandi is...between two warring sisters. Sisters that need to both see a family counsellor.

Edited February 17, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[motorcitymom65]

How is she lying, she didn't say she had a procedure, that was a Brandi slip.

 

If it was rehab, I'd think Kyle would have been thrilled and been talking to her again, so cross that one off.  (etc)

What am I missing? Wasn't Kyle talking to Kim again after she got out of the hospital? Didn't they have a nice conversation on Kim's bed where Kim told her she had always been her best friend and nothing could come between them?

 

Whatever story Kim was peddling, I am sure Brandi was more than aware of it. My thoughts are that after Poker Night, Brandi told Kim that she was all kind of fucked up and that it was going to look bad on camera. Kim went home and thought about it and decided a quick visit to the hospital for 5 or 7 or 9 days was in order. She probably sat up all night Googling "hernia" and all kinds of other ailments, just trying to find something that she could easily sell. Something that would be painful, but nothing that would require surgery or an ugly scar. Something that would not only give her a cover story for being all doped up on camera, but as an added bonus might score her some more pain medication. Brandi said the word "procedure" like she didn't know what else to call it. Kyle acted legitimately like she had no idea what on earth was going on. Kyle had been to see her in the hospital (it didn't sound like Brandi had) and still she seemed mystified as to what was wrong with Kim.

[Umbelina]

Yet, less than two days out she screams endlessly at her sister, and double birds her while saying FUCK YOU loud enough for everyone in the place, and the cameras, thus America, to hear it?

Edited February 17, 2015 by Umbelina

[motorcitymom65]

Yet, less than two days out she screams endlessly at her sister, and double birds her while saying FUCK YOU loud enough for everyone in the place, and the cameras, thus America, to hear it?

Yes, but my point was that when Kim got out of the hospital they were fine. Kyle lost her temper with Kim later because per usual, Kim was being an asshole.

[msblossom]

Just to clarify, Kyle said to Mauricio when she was telling him about Kim being in the hospital that Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai.  Also, to my knowledge, it was never said what 'kind' of patch Kim was supposedly remember.  This has all been speculation.

 

Lastly, when Brandi had her conversation with Kim the day after she got out of the hospital,  Brandi had said something about seeing Kim after her 'procedure'.  Of course a procedure could be many different things.  I thought it may have been an endoscopy given that Kyle said in that same conversation with Mauricio that they didn't know what was wrong and suspected an ulcer.

 

Now here's the speculation question:  Monty took Kim to Cedars Sinai but did she stay there for five, six, seven, eight days or did she go someplace else after being 'evaluated'.  She was handling her 'pain' very well at the mixer.  I don't know.  I do know (and I've said this before) hospitals don't keep you for even three days unless they think something is very seriously wrong.  You get sent home or to a rehabilitation center for physical therapy or monitoring.

  

If it was rehab, I'd think Kyle would have been thrilled and been talking to her again, so cross that one off.  (etc)

Umbelina, the rehab that's being referred to is what Breezy posted; a rehabilitation center that hospitals often release patients to if they're not well enough (or lack being ambulatory) to go home, not drug or alcohol rehab.

At this point, I'm just taking what Kim says at face value as to what she was treated for at the hospital. Does it really matter? If she's lying and went in for something other than what she said and is drug seeking or whatever, then she's only fooling herself and this all comes to the surface eventually. I think I'm burned out speculating about what she's doing and at this point just want the season to wrap up.

[zoeysmom]

Yet, less than two days out she screams endlessly at her sister, and double birds her while saying FUCK YOU loud enough for everyone in the place, and the cameras, thus America, to hear it?

Just maybe Kim should have turned the car around when she realized Brandi didn't have good intentions.  Kim is a woeful excuse for a sister.

[AnnA]

I'm unsure of what this brings up to you. But, I'll share about my mother. She refers to me only as daughter or my name because I'm not a child technically anymore. I know a lot of people say their daughter or son will always be their child no matter how old they are. But, my mom and I aren't that emotionally close. I do see Kim as being close to her children. Is that why you see it as odd?

It's possible that Kim did it for the same reason your mother does. That explanation never crossed my mind. To me it just seemed odd that she would distinguish between her daughters and her son. I may not "get it" because I have two sons and no daughters. I'm probably overthinking it.

[Umbelina]

Brandi did nothing wrong at that party.  She even took Kyle screaming in her face well. 

 

Kyle's no saint, she's a screeching, attention grabbing harpy who caused a scene all by herself.

[Watermelon]

Brandi did nothing wrong at that party.  She even took Kyle screaming in her face well. 

 

Kyle's no saint, she's a screeching, attention grabbing harpy who caused a scene all by herself.

She chose not to de-escalate the situation and not offer a sorely needed apology.  She chose to go back and forth with the host of a party she wasn't even invited to. She chose to tell said host she would knock her teeth out. She chose to tell said host her husband doesn't want her.

 

Kyle being wrong does not equal Brandi being in any parts correct.

[zoeysmom]

Brandi did nothing wrong at that party.  She even took Kyle screaming in her face well. 

 

Kyle's no saint, she's a screeching, attention grabbing harpy who caused a scene all by herself.

Brandi showed up uninvited and told the hostess she would kick her teeth in and refused to leave when asked to.  She led Kim to believe she would apologize or make things right. 

[AnnA]

Does anyone think that Kim intentionally invited Brandi to come with her to Kyle's gay mixer knowing it wouldn't end well? They all acted horribly. Brandi should not have gone but Kim should never have asked her. And now onto Kyle's behavior.....Kyle had a right to be upset that Brandi showed up but she could have acted like a mature adult and sucked it up for the sake of her guests. She invited who knows how many people to this party and as the hostess is obligated to think of her guests before herself. Unfortunately, Kyle doesn't seem to be able to do that. If I was Kyle that night, I would have been upset and had a miserable night but I would have smiled so as not to spoil the evening for my guests.

Edited February 17, 2015 by AnnA

[erikdepressant]

I'm willing to bet money that the producers strongly encouraged Brandi to attend that party.  I would also bet that Kyle was under the influence of production when she started squabbling with Brandi after the non-apology.

 

As far as the guests at the party, Alex Zeidel said it best in his episode recap:

 

 

I'm sure that, in Kyle's mind, her party was a disaster, when, in reality, it was the show this group of apparently exclusive bottoms was hoping for.

[Giselle]

Yet, less than two days out she screams endlessly at her sister, and double birds her while saying FUCK YOU loud enough for everyone in the place, and the cameras, thus America, to hear it?

 

and the bitch deserved it. She is a selfish addict mess who blames everybody but herself and keeps her fucking head in the sand when it comes to her behavior. I have yet to ever hear her apologize for anything. The bitch can't even take responsibility for her damn dog biting her niece. She is loyal to no one but herself, not even her kids, else she would get help and stay sober.  God knows how many times they have probably seen mommy out of it and had to walk on egg shells or pick up her pieces.  

 

Is Kim's life purpose  to shit on everybody else's life with her problems? It sure as hell seems so.

 

 

FUCK MY LIVER & FUCK YOUR LIFE!!!

[Higgins]

I replied to your comment that she was hospitalized to "get over Pneumonia" which would mean the use of oxygen as would coughing so hard that you broke a rib, ruptured a disc and gave yourself a hiatal hernia, all of which Kim claimed happened when she coughed hard and then heard a "pop" sound (her words in her blog, not mine). When you cough that hard you have trouble getting enough oxygen so it would have/should have been seen in the photo. It doesn't help her story that for the 2 or so weeks she was filmed prior to the hospital stay, there was zero coughing, not even a throat clearing sound was heard from Kim. LOL

 

I really believe the hospital stay had nothing to do with any pneumonia/bronchitis and that explanation is nothing more than a cover story for a bad drug reaction or a possible overdose. JMO though because we will never hear the truth from Kim about any of this.

If her O2 sat is adequate, they won't give O2. All of this is highly speculative and one pic from her hospital bed tells you nothing.  We have no idea what she was being treated for or how long she was there.  We don't know what meds she is currently prescribed or what amounts or what conditions she is being treated for.

[Almost 3000]

I was just wondering if the seeming long hospital stay had to do with non-narcotic pain management. Is this a thing and would it necessitate the longer stay?

 

A Kim compliment ahead because blond hair maintenance deserves props when done well. Kim has managed to have really great looking hair this season. As I type this I hear Vicki saying, "I pay a lot so my hair isn't yellow", see Adrienne's rat's nest bed head and multiple rows of tracks and roots on multiple HW's heads. Its kind of a blond miracle, considering...

[FozzyBear]

I thought YoFo had stopped the Bella DUI talk because the less attention she brings to it, the less attention is brought to the fact that YoFo blatantly lied about the facts of that DUI arrest. A lot of people take what YoFo says as the truth, without ever reading about the facts. I know someone who does not read TMZ, they do not get the other information via websites such as most of us do when a story is linked here. When I informed this person about the facts of Bella's DUI arrest, they were shocked, and they wondered why YoFo lied on the show. So, YoFo shutting Brandi down over the Bella alcoholic talk, as good as that was in order to keep Brandi from deflecting, I felt it also was a move by YoFo to let Brandi know that Bella's DUI is a topic that should never be mentioned again since YoFo did her best to sweep that under the rug. To mention it again in her blog only draws attention to that DUI and that YoFo lied about the facts.

I always just assumed that Bella's lawyer told them not to discuss details of the DUI or plea deal on camera. Which just seems smart and reasonable to me.

[talula]

As there has been some speculation of what prescriptions Kim was put on after her hospital stay. Here's what it says in Season 5: Episode 12 Drama Queens. We have been discussing it a lot so I hope it's OK to add it here.

Talking head Kim says, " I was on anti-inflammatory steroids and three kinds of antibiotics. It was beginning to make me feel like it was something terminal. It was beginning to frighten me."

What was wrong with Kim?

Flash back to Kyle/Kim in bedroom: Kim said, "Sure enough it was a hernia and cracked and fractured ribs."

What happened to Kim the night of the poker party?

Flash back to Kyle/Kim in bedroom: Kim said, "I don't remember everything. Because I took a pain pill. You know I was getting ready to leave the house, and I was in a lot of pain. I told Monty, I just don't know if I should go, really. So Monty said, I tell you what, take one of my pain pills. It will make you feel better...and just go. So I took one."

Talking head Kyle says: "The fact that my sister took this pill was scary and it was a really bad choice. But at least she's acknowledged it was a bad choice and she shouldn't have done it."

Brandi/Kim sitting on couch: Kim says, "Whatever it is, it's for cancer and so the thing is..."

Brandi- (yells out) "Kim"

Kim- "It was still hurting."

Brandi-"Kim, you could have been allergic to that. It was not a good night for you, or myself or Kyle."

[WireWrap]

If her O2 sat is adequate, they won't give O2. All of this is highly speculative and one pic from her hospital bed tells you nothing.  We have no idea what she was being treated for or how long she was there.  We don't know what meds she is currently prescribed or what amounts or what conditions she is being treated for.

Exactly, we don't know what she was in the hospital for or even how long she was in because Kim lies, big time. We do know that she fell of the wagon though, by her own words.

[Higgins]

Is it her duty to inform us of her medical issues? It's really none of anyone's business. I suspect she is keeping the truth from us but I suspect Yolanda is too. It really doesn't matter and we are never going to be privy to their actual medical history.

Edited February 17, 2015 by Higgins