Spoiler Discussion: The apple was poisoned?!

[Hookian]

Killian has never asked for the Charmings' permission to do anything regarding his relationship with Emma and he better not start now.

 

Considering Little John is Roland's real father anyway, I don't see the problem with his bio parents being both killed off.

 

Usually it's tradition for a future to ask the parents for their daughters hand in marriage, so he has their blessing and permission. It's generally valued as respectful, if Killian is gonna propose anytime soon I do want him to at least tell the Charmings.

 

You're making it sound like it would be OOC for him to ask for the Charming's blessing.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Hookian

[YaddaYadda]

That's odd. Wasn't their original visit to the amusement park in Portland? "Revelation" is actually a ride at the amusement park they filmed at. It would be interesting to learn if they filmed in that location in the park to get that sign or because they wanted to film in front of the cork-screw roller coaster. The coaster could also be a sub-text for what was going to happen this half season (lots of ups-and-downs and upside downs and by-the-seat-of-your-pants stuff).

 

I looked up the amusement park where the scenes were filming to see if the NYC skyline was something they added, or if it was part of the actual setting.  I just wanted to make sure since I haven't set foot anywhere near Vancouver since the late 90s (this makes me feel really old, btw)

 

I'm not saying that it's not supposed to be Portland because I'm pretty sure it is. I just thought that it's interesting that they chose a ride that has the word "revelation" and the NYC skyline right there considering that parts of episode 5x22 are taking place in NYC, and that both Gold and Henry are in the city during that episode.

 

It can't be a coincidence.

 

However, Robin's death, combined with leaving Storybrooke for the EF, will have a huge impact on the little kid, even if he may not be able to articulate it fully.

Will they sit him and explain to him that his father died, or are they just going to mind fuck him once more?

Edited March 17, 2016 by YaddaYadda

[HoodlumSheep]

Well I would hope the Rumple/Milah stuff would be awkward. He did kinda murder her.

I'm worrying about Milah a little though. With Rumple and hades scheming I could easily see her help save Killian, then, after Emma's left with Hook and right before she moves on to the big bright light in the sky Rumple or Hades shoves her into mt. doom. Or something like that.

I hope she gets to move on without any nonsense. Hopefully after punching Rumple in the face.

I'd be fine with Hook/Snowing/maybeZelena getting separated (if it happens at all). Call me cruel I guess, but it might be a good chance to actually see Snow and Hook interact.

Someone on tumblr suggested the possibility of flash sideways (or a similar AU situation) like in Lost based on Killian wearing his DO outfit and him and Emma looking kind of half-DarkOne-ish. I never watched Lost so I don't know how that would work.

Honestly I have know idea what's going on in these last few episodes. Things seem to be a bit all over the place.

Edited March 17, 2016 by HoodlumSheep

[Curio]

Will they sit him and explain to him that his father died, or are they just going to mind fuck him once more?

 

Regina will probably have a "heroic" moment where she tearfully wipes all of Roland's memories of Robin and Regina. Because, you know...this is a show about hope.

Well I would hope the Rumple/Milah stuff would awkward. He did kinda murder her.

I'm worried the show will focus more of the awkwardness on Emma/Milah instead of Milah/Rumple. I could potentially see a quick second of awkward silence when Emma and Milah first meet, but from a character standpoint, they should be more on each other's teams than with Rumple. Rumple has attempted to kill Emma multiple times and hates her boyfriend. Meanwhile, Milah loved Hook and was willing to die for him. Regardless of who slept with who, shouldn't Emma naturally want to help Milah out? It would be pretty awesome to actually see Milah and Emma team up for the mutual task of saving Killian, but I doubt that's going to happen.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Curio

[Rumsy4]

Usually it's tradition for a future to ask the parents for their daughters hand in marriage, so he has their blessing and permission. It's generally valued as respectful, if Killian is gonna propose anytime soon I do want him to at least tell the Charmings.

 

You're making it sound like it would be OOC for him to ask for the Charming's blessing.

 

The thing is, Hook is not traditional. I do think it would be OOC of him to ask Charming for his blessing. He made fun of David for being old-fashioned when he asked Hook about his "intentions". And he discussed things with Henry (as he should), when he wanted to move in with Emma as a family. Besides, I doubt marriage is on his mind at the moment. To me, he would be happy to move in with Emma and live together as a family. Emma is the one who has a desire to get married (re:Walsh/New York). And I think she will be the one proposing, whenever it happens. However, I do think it will be great to have Hook on an adventure with Snowing (and even Zelena). It will certainly give them time to bond!!

 

I think the insane asylum is in the real world and the character/warder are fairy tale characters out of place. One claims to remember the fairytale world and gets locked up. The villain of the story is the warder and is smart enough to keep quiet about the fairytale world.  So, the fairytale we are looking for features a male villain and protagonist.

 

I think this is a great idea. Hey--maybe it's Van Helsing and his misunderstood victim, Vlad Dracula. Dracula has been misrepresented over the years. That is the untold story. :-p

Edited March 17, 2016 by Rumsy4

[HoodlumSheep]

Regina will probably have a "heroic" moment where she tearfully wipes all of Roland's memories of Robin and Regina. Because, you know...this is a show about hope.

Ugh. No. >:( that just reminds me of the Doctor/Donna stuff in Doctor Who, except Roland doesn't have all that Time Lord stuff crammed into his human brain causing him to basically "malfunction." He's just a regular ol' kid. He needs to know what happened.

If not...#FutureRolandHoodForVillain please. He can return having taken up his father's name as Robin Hood. Except he's gone evil after he found out that his head's been screwed with six dozen times.

Edited March 17, 2016 by HoodlumSheep

[FierceAfroChick]

If they separate Hook and Emma again, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to watch unless it was for one episode.  And someone's getting sucked through a portal again?  The writers' imaginations are seriously limited.

[Serena]

Usually it's tradition for a future to ask the parents for their daughters hand in marriage, so he has their blessing and permission. It's generally valued as respectful, if Killian is gonna propose anytime soon I do want him to at least tell the Charmings.

 

You're making it sound like it would be OOC for him to ask for the Charming's blessing.

 

Just as many people think it's disrespectful to involve a woman's parents in this, because they don't own her. Which is what this tradition is, a throwback to when people thought a woman belonged to her father and a future husband had to ask his permission to purchase her.

Emma's opinion is the only one that matters, and I WOULD find it OOC if Hook suddenly started to care about the Charmings' permission. I could maybe tolerate an "Heads up, tomorrow night I'm gonna propose to Emma. Get on board or jump off the train.". Anything more than that? Nope.

[Souris]

Tables will be flipped if they end a THIRD arc finale in a row with Emma & Hook separated. It does seem that Snowing, Hook & Zelena get sucked through the portal, leaving Emma, Regina & Henry to try to find them. (Swan Mills Family pandering alert.) I pray they're reunited by the end of the finale.

 

Put me in the camp of those who wouldn't want Hook to ask the Charmings' permission to marry Emma. HER opinion is the only one that matters. Screw that paternalistic nonsense.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Souris

[YaddaYadda]

Put me in the camp of those who wouldn't want Hook to ask the Charmings' permission to marry Emma. HER opinion is the only one that matters. Screw that paternalistic nonsense.

 

That was shot to hell back in season 4. I personally don't see it happening.

 

I also don't see anything that feels like normalcy happening because CRISIS!!!!

 

I'm still pretty irked that they will be coming back from the UW, more shit hits the fan, someone dies for real, we have a funeral, then people fall through those pesky, and difficult hard to find portals.

 

I was really hoping  for a quiet hour or 2 before whatever fucked up thing they come up with for next season.

[RadioGirl27]

I'd be fine with Hook/Snowing/maybeZelena getting separated (if it happens at all). Call me cruel I guess, but it might be a good chance to actually see Snow and Hook interact.

That would never happen. The interacting and bonding, I mean, not the separation. If Hook and Snowing get separated from Emma, their screentime would be minimal. The biggest part of the screentime would be Emma-Regina-Henry, making the SQ shippers dreams come true.

[KingOfHearts]

 

That would never happen. The interacting and bonding, I mean, not the separation. If Hook and Snowing get separated from Emma, their screentime would be minimal. The biggest part of the screentime would be Emma-Regina-Henry, making the SQ shippers dreams come true.

It would be the Hook/Belle interactions from S4 at best.

[Curio]

And here I am still waiting for the Emma/Charming/Snow adventure that will probably never happen. Haven't we had enough of the Regina/Emma pairing? Why don't they try some new Emma combos? Can we have a Belle/Emma adventure? Hell, even Zelena/Emma?

 

I think the discussion about Hook asking Emma's parents' blessing to propose is more speculation than spoiler, so I'll take my thoughts over to the speculation thread.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Curio

[scenicbyway]

I didn't realize how much I want Emma and Milah to meet.  All the better it will be with Rumple and Hook!

 

I can just see Rumple's introduction:

 

Rump:  Hello, Milah

Milah:  Rumple

Rump:  Let me introduce Miss Swan, mother of your grandson.

Milah:  (surprised)

Emma:  My name's Emma

Milah:  Nice to meet you Emma

Rump:  We need your help finding Killian Jones

Milah:  Killian's here?

Emma:  Yes, and we're hoping you can help us, he's with Hades.

Milah:  Yes, of course!

Rump:  I should also mention that Miss Swan is Killian's murderer and girlfriend!

Milah: (shocked)

 

End Scene!

[KingOfHearts]

 

Rump:  I should also mention that Miss Swan is Killian's murderer and girlfriend!

You made me realize that Rumple killed Milah and Emma killed Killian (albeit for good reasons). All four of them are in the Underworld... how smashing.

[mjgchick]

True love y'all.

[daxx]

I didn't realize how much I want Emma and Milah to meet.  All the better it will be with Rumple and Hook!

 

I can just see Rumple's introduction:

 

Rump:  Hello, Milah

Milah:  Rumple

Rump:  Let me introduce Miss Swan, mother of your grandson.

Milah:  (surprised)

Emma:  My name's Emma

Milah:  Nice to meet you Emma

Rump:  We need your help finding Killian Jones

Milah:  Killian's here?

Emma:  Yes, and we're hoping you can help us, he's with Hades.

Milah:  Yes, of course!

Rump:  I should also mention that Miss Swan is Killian's murderer and girlfriend!

Milah: (shocked)

 

End Scene!

I do like this, but I don't think Rumple would ever call him Killian, he'll say your wife stealing pirate or something rude and insulting.

[Shanna Marie]

If these writers wrote characters rather than plot devices, Hook should be in for some serious PTSD, given that he died (or nearly died -- not sure if he was actually dead when Emma turned him into a Dark One) twice, was turned into a Dark One, and nearly killed all the people he cares about, and then has been seriously tortured physically and psychologically. In that case, it would be interesting for him to immediately be stuck with the Charmings and for them to be the ones to have to work through it with him and deal with him when he's really on edge. But on this show, I won't hold my breath. Still, I would find that trio interesting, if only it didn't leave Emma stuck with Regina and Henry, a trio that's absolutely painful to watch.

[CheshireCat]

So... if Robin dies, will the baby be named Robin in his honor?

[Rumsy4]

And here I am still waiting for the Emma/Charming/Snow adventure that will probably never happen. Haven't we had enough of the Regina/Emma pairing?

 

I guess it makes sense that the  writers who began a #savehook arc with a Neal/Emma scene would end a #savehook arc with an Emma/Regina/Henry adventure. This is like Operation Mongoose Part II with Henry and the author stuff included. This means there won't be much CS in the finale, and we most likely won't be getting anything significant in the way of progress, especially as the set for Emma's house has been taken down. When they're jumping from crisis to crisis, who has time for anything?? 

[YaddaYadda]

Still hoping that the actors were just horsing around, and that no one fell through a portal.

 

That being said, Zelena seems pretty resourceful in crossing realms. Looks like she manages to go from Oz to the Underworld all on her own.

 

About the whole Milah thing, everyone seems to know exactly what's going on with the living. Henry Sr knew Regina was turning her life around, and Cruella said everyone knows that Henry broke the quill. I'm assuming Milah knows what's up with Hook and Emma.

[CheshireCat]

YaddaYadda, on 17 Mar 2016 - 4:59 PM, said:

Still hoping that the actors were just horsing around, and that no one fell through a portal.

 

That being said, Zelena seems pretty resourceful in crossing realms. Looks like she manages to go from Oz to the Underworld all on her own.

 

 

Isn't there an episode coming up titled  "The Ruby Slippers" so that could be an option. Or she used the wand - though in that case she would have needed something from the Underworld to get there...

[YaddaYadda]

Isn't there an episode coming up titled  "The Ruby Slippers" so that could be an option. Or she used the wand - though in that case she would have needed something from the Underworld to get there...

Yes, there is. But Zelena gets to the UW in 5x16, Ruby Slippers is 5x18. I don't know if she stops in SB before she follows Belle to the UW, but Belle shows up there in 5x16 with Pistachio.

Edited March 17, 2016 by YaddaYadda

[Shanna Marie]

I would think that Milah's main unfinished business would involve Bae. She died in Hook's arms, using her last breath to tell him she loved him, so I wouldn't imagine she had unfinished business with him. It's not on her that her death made him go off the deep end. But according to Hook, she was hoping to go back to Bae when he was older and he could come with them, but she never got the chance to (I've wondered if maybe that's why they were back when they ran into Dark One Rumple, if they'd come back to that area for Bae). But if Bae/Neal is in a different place, how can they help her resolve that? If she already knows what's happened with him, then what can Emma do to help change that? I really hope her unfinished business doesn't have anything to do with abandoning poor woobie Rumple. Killing her more than evened the score on that.

 

Though I suppose there's a similar "it's not on him" situation with Liam. Would it count as his unfinished business that his little brother went crazy after he died? Or would it be that he put trust in his king over trust in his brother, leading to his death, which meant he left his brother alone to go crazy?

[CheshireCat]

YaddaYadda, on 17 Mar 2016 - 5:04 PM, said:

Yes, there is. But Zelena gets to the UW in 5x16, Ruby Slippers is 5x18. I don't know if she stops in SB before she follows Belle to the UW, but Belle shows up there in 5x16 with Pistachio.

 

Right, so no Ruby Slippers then. Still leaves the wand. How does Belle get there?

 

With everyone coming to the UW voluntarily, maybe Hades should think about making it a resort destination.

[YaddaYadda]

Right, so no Ruby Slippers then. Still leaves the wand. How does Belle get there?

 

With everyone coming to the UW voluntarily, maybe Hades should think about making it a resort destination.

 

I wouldn't give up on the ruby slippers since they tend to have double meaning anyway, so we will see.

[mjgchick]

I thought the only way to get in the Underworld is through a former dead persons blood? Does Belle have Rumples blood lying around?

[scenicbyway]

I would think that Milah's main unfinished business would involve Bae. She died in Hook's arms, using her last breath to tell him she loved him, so I wouldn't imagine she had unfinished business with him. It's not on her that her death made him go off the deep end. But according to Hook, she was hoping to go back to Bae when he was older and he could come with them, but she never got the chance to (I've wondered if maybe that's why they were back when they ran into Dark One Rumple, if they'd come back to that area for Bae). But if Bae/Neal is in a different place, how can they help her resolve that? If she already knows what's happened with him, then what can Emma do to help change that? I really hope her unfinished business doesn't have anything to do with abandoning poor woobie Rumple. Killing her more than evened the score on that.

 

Though I suppose there's a similar "it's not on him" situation with Liam. Would it count as his unfinished business that his little brother went crazy after he died? Or would it be that he put trust in his king over trust in his brother, leading to his death, which meant he left his brother alone to go crazy?

I think Milah's unfinished business has to be Killian because Rumple's already been to the Underworld.  It can't be Bae because he's not there.  The others that have gone on have had to face their regrets.  Henry Sr. moved on after Regina apologized, Herc and Megara after they slayed the thing that killed them, perhaps Milah forgives Rumple or can see that Killian will be happy with out her.  Milah and Killian had such a strong connection, I could see her fear being that he'd try to avenge her death (which he did for 300 years give or take) and waste his life.  Perhaps knowing that he's found love again allows her to move on?

 

Or maybe Rumple screws her over again and she drops into the fire pit?  It could go either way.

[kili]

Or maybe Rumple screws her over again and she drops into the fire pit?

 

They had better not do that. I could believe that Rumple might do that, but the writer's had better not let him succeed. Milah may have been a less than perfect wife and mother, but she has already over-paid for her sins. If Black-Knight-killing, Jefferson-abandoning, Leo-killing, abuse-letting Henry Sr. gets to go into the light, I'm going to be annoyed if Milah doesn't as well.

 

They already made Rumple squiffy having him kill her when she said she had never loved him. Letting him damn her to a firey eternity would amp up the grossness (and yes, I think what Cora did to the random extra that Regina killed is gross too). This show is supposed to be about Hope.

[Rumsy4]

That being said, Zelena seems pretty resourceful in crossing realms. Looks like she manages to go from Oz to the Underworld all on her own.

 

I bet they break the wand accidentally as they fall through the portal, and have to find another way to cross realms. :-p

 

But if Bae/Neal is in a different place, how can they help her resolve that? If she already knows what's happened with him, then what can Emma do to help change that? 

 

Maybe she doesn't know if he went to the "good" place or the "bad" place. Emma will be able to reassure her. 

I thought the only way to get in the Underworld is through a former dead persons blood? Does Belle have Rumples blood lying around?

 

Maybe Belle is pregnant and the potential Dark One baby has part of Rumple's DNA and so Belle can open the portal to the UW by blood magic or something like that. Wow that sounds crazy, but why not?

[scenicbyway]

I bet they break the wand accidentally as they fall through the portal, and have to find another way to cross realms. :-p

 

 

Maybe she doesn't know if he went to the "good" place or the "bad" place. Emma will be able to reassure her. 

 

Maybe Belle is pregnant and the potential Dark One baby has part of Rumple's DNA and so Belle can open the portal to the UW by blood magic or something like that. Wow that sounds crazy, but why not?

If it's a blood magic thing, couldn't Henry open the portal?  I think he'll just write his way of out it...

[KingOfHearts]

 

I bet they break the wand accidentally as they fall through the portal, and have to find another way to cross realms. :-p

They could...

 

* Ask Ariel to give them a lift.

* Cast another Dark Curse by splitting Snow's half-heart into a quarter.

* Use one of the looking glasses hanging around Knifington Palace to get to Wonderland, then ask the White Rabbit to make them a portal.

* Wait for Team Storybrooke to get some beans from Tiny and rescue them.

* Ask Zelena to use her inner strength to summon a tornado. (If she's there, I'm not sure.)

* Wait for Henry to write them back using the Author's Pen.

* Raid the Apprentice's house, Merlin's tower or the Dark Castle to find a world-traveling item, such as a Last Magic Bean™.

Edited March 17, 2016 by KingOfHearts

[Mathius]

If Milah's unfinished business is Bae, then I think Henry will be the key to her moving on. Similar to how Hook wanted to atone for his betrayal of Bae by helping to save Henry.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Mathius

[YaddaYadda]

If Milah's unfinished business is Bae, then I think Henry will be the key to her moving on. Similar to how Hook wanted to atone for his betrayal of Bae by helping to save Henry.

 

I don't think it's a coincidence at all that the kid they chose to play Bae also kinda looks like Jared a bit. Or maybe it's the very similar hair cuts.

[scenicbyway]

They could...

* Ask Ariel to give them a lift.

* Cast another Dark Curse by splitting Snow's half-heart into a quarter.

* Use one of the looking glasses hanging around Knifington Palace to get to Wonderland, then ask the White Rabbit to make them a portal.

* Wait for Team Storybrooke to get some beans from Tiny and rescue them.

* Ask Zelena to use her inner strength to summon a tornado. (If she's there, I'm not sure.)

* Wait for Henry to write them back using the Author's Pen.

* Raid the Apprentice's house, Merlin's tower or the Dark Castle to find a world-traveling item, such as a Last Magic Bean™.

I vote for option 2 splitting Snow's heart into a quarter!

[Hookian]

I guess it makes sense that the  writers who began a #savehook arc with a Neal/Emma scene would end a #savehook arc with an Emma/Regina/Henry adventure. This is like Operation Mongoose Part II with Henry and the author stuff included. This means there won't be much CS in the finale, and we most likely won't be getting anything significant in the way of progress, especially as the set for Emma's house has been taken down. When they're jumping from crisis to crisis, who has time for anything?? 

I completely disagree about there being no CS in the finale nor anything significant. It's a season finale, significant things always happen and when have we ever not had a season finale have something significant for CS.

 

So what if SQ are gonna get an adventure together, it's to reunite them with their family and part of that is Emma's TL Killian. Who the f cares what the idiot SQ shippers will think. 

 

Also I personally loved Operation Mongoose Part 2 especially because it highlighted how much Emma loves Hook. I really don't care nor do I let the SQ morons influence the canon of the show. 

 

You guys shouldn't either.

 

Tables will be flipped if they end a THIRD arc finale in a row with Emma & Hook separated. It does seem that Snowing, Hook & Zelena get sucked through the portal, leaving Emma, Regina & Henry to try to find them. (Swan Mills Family pandering alert.) I pray they're reunited by the end of the finale.

 

 

They get separated in P1 of the finale. I'm sure they'll be reunited by the end of the finale.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Hookian

[Rumsy4]

I completely disagree about there being no CS in the finale nor anything significant. It's a season finale, significant things always happen and when have we ever not had a season finale have something significant for CS.

 

So what if SQ are gonna get an adventure together, it's to reunite them with their family and part of that is Emma's TL Killian. Who the f cares what the idiot SQ shippers will think. 

 

Also I personally loved Operation Mongoose Part 2 especially because it highlighted how much Emma loves Hook. I really don't care nor do I let the SQ morons influence the canon of the show. 

 

You guys shouldn't either.

 

You are taking my statements  more negatively than I have meant them to be. I never said anything about Swan Queen or its shippers. The characters literally just return from the UW after retrieving Hook. And now they have to retrieve him from another realm in the same season? Sounds repetitive and boring. I also didn't say no CS in the finale. It seems very likely that we will have a True Love moment for CS in the episode Firebird (5.21?). Either a True Love's kiss or something involving the pedestal. When they come back, there's the Arthur storyline, Robin's (potential) death, falling through portals, etc.. It doesn't seem to set the right tone for a major CS development yet again in the finale, especially if the adventure separates the two of them for most of it. 

Edited March 17, 2016 by Rumsy4

[Hookian]

You are taking my statements  more negatively than I have meant them to be. I never said anything about Swan Queen or its shippers. The characters literally just return from the UW after retrieving Hook. And now they have to retrieve him from another realm in the same season? Sounds repetitive and boring. I also didn't say no CS in the finale. It seems very likely that we will have a True Love moment for CS in the episode Firebird (5.21?). Either a True Love's kiss or something involving the pedestal. When they come back, there's the Arthur storyline, Robin's (potential) death, falling through portals, etc.. It doesn't seem to set the right tone for a major CS development yet again in the finale, especially if the adventure separates the two of them for most of it. 

 

You can have major CS development in the finale without them interacting with each other. Hook is gonna be with her parents, that definitely is something I personally want to see and that's CS development. Emma w/ Regina and likely talking about her family and Hook is CS development that's how we got that beautiful moment in the S4 finale. She was talking to Regina. As far as what happens by the end of the finale, if Emma or Killian proposes then I wouldn't be surprised. They've more than defined the odds and have even conquered death together. So to me I say they are ready, and it wouldn't surprise me if a proposal does happen in the finale.

 

Seeing how far along that is though I choose to just focus on the present then start being pessimistic about the finales which have always had some major CS development in them.

[Souris]

I thought the only way to get in the Underworld is through a former dead persons blood? Does Belle have Rumples blood lying around?

 

Blue Fairy filmed for this ep. She also died & came back, so that's my guess.

[Jul 68]

So... if Robin dies, will the baby be named Robin in his honor?

Of COURSE they will. It makes perfect sense for TS:TW. "Better Place" forbid that they name her Julie or Rachel or something not named after a dead 'hero'.

He is/was her father, though, and it is sweet. Besides, A&E can use it as another point in their 'We planned this all along' speech. I'm beginning to believe them and they haven't even said it yet.

[YaddaYadda]

I can believe that they planned Robin's death since the start of the season. There were anvils for it in both 5x01 and 5x02. Those were also the 2 episodes they gave him the most to do.

 

Last season in 4x15, there was the talk about Hook becoming the Dark One, but that was rather quickly dismissed. At this point, I think we have a good enough idea when they're spinning, and when they're not.

[KingOfHearts]

The Robin death speculation is similar to the Neal death speculation in 3B. We all knew it was going to happen, we just didn't have the absolute confirmation. Robin is in the same position to boot - he's a bland character A&E have no intention to write for. 

 

Robin could be a girl's name. Maybe they're holding out on naming Pistachio for that reason. Dang, 5B really is a repeat of 3B.

Edited March 18, 2016 by KingOfHearts

[mjgchick]

I get it, Baby Zelena will be the real Robin Hood the way Jimmy Olsen wasn't the real Jimmy Olsen but was the older brother of James Olsen.

[daxx]

It looks like the fandom, on tumblr at least, believe that Snowing, Zelena and Hook are indeed pulled through the door. I am still not convinced. I didn't see a single BTS that looks like a fan machine was used. I didn't see a fan at all in fact. Has anyone else seen any BTS that perhaps I missed that is more convincing than the playing around the cast was doing around the door?

I feel like this is the "wedding dress" from 3-21/22 all over again.

[Curio]

I'm not convinced either. I'll only allow them to be pulled through the door if it leads them to Agrabah and sets up Season 6.

[YaddaYadda]

Same here, I'm not convinced either that they're going through a portal or anything like that.

 

What would help is if we knew the context of the Emma/Regina scene.

[SiobhanJW]

Apparently they are filming in Burnaby's Central Park today which I believe is Enchanted Forest correct? Hopefully we get some pictures which can hopefully help us figure out what is going on. Haha. 

[sharky]

You know, we keep acting like being pulled through the door is the season finale cliffhanger but what if it's just to set up the two-hour finale? What if the door sucking scene is like the time portal opening at the start of 3x21 or Henry walking down the street by himself because everyone else has disappeared? It seems like these past few years, the B arc of the season only lasted for the first 8-10 episodes before the big finale is just some two-hour movie that hangs onto the rest of the season by a few narrative strings.

[YaddaYadda]

They're going back to Steveston on the 28th, so we will find out soon enough.

[sharky]

Oh geez, if that's the case and they're still filming for a few more weeks, then I can totally see that being the start and not the end of the season finale. At least that's what I'm going to tell myself so I don't worry as much.