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6 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I do wonder if Garcelle pushed about the Morgan stuff because she is still pissed about what the FFF did to Denise and her supposed se life. I, for one, am still pissed on Denise’s behalf.

I mean was it a really a push tho .. kyle was out here posting about it to her socials following this woman around .. but she cant say boo about it ON camera? This after she brought her on the show and made a big thing about it .. feeding each other giggling getting matching tatts .. its  just all so odd and weird ..

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7 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I do wonder if Garcelle pushed about the Morgan stuff because she is still pissed about what the FFF did to Denise and her supposed se life. I, for one, am still pissed on Denise’s behalf.

Thing of it is. Garcelle has NO follow through. Garcelle has plenty of reasons to go for this one or that one. Garcelle lacks the ability to actually lead on anything. I do think Garcelle is mad about A LOT of stuff but doesn't actually want to be the one to go all in. We've seen how Garcelle NEEDED Sutton to go after Kyle. Garcelle tried to play the game this season and realized she wasn't cut out for it. She tried to bring the drama but reallized that when you take that step you need to be able to run with it and also to stand on your own two feet and she was expecting some cushion from Sutton meanwhile Suttons had to go through the gauntlet alone on many ocassions. Same should go for Garcelle.  

I think that is where I truly soured on Garcelle. The way she left and the mini rant she had in her dressing room just seemed so immature. A lot of clips are coming out from over the seasons showing her kinda sorta confrontations and it really does show a complete picture. Garcelle doesn't like to get in the mud but she does like to be in the fray. 

This is how I see it, Garcelle wanted to be a part of the cast/show but she wanted to do so as someone that wouldn't necessarily get any smoke. It's spelled out with all these clips and of course I'm all for staying out of the ridiculous drama but then she doesn't actually STAY OUT of the drama which of course she kinda can't because she's a full time housewife. 

I'm mainly disappointed in Garcelle because she has a lot to say but she never really completely says or addresses anything. She touch on it then let it fade and want to dismiss it as nothing or her opinion or "that's how I felt" yada yada. Her explanantions were so weak. Okay Garcelle, that's how you felt but WHY did you feel that way? Elaborate. Explain what made you come to these conclusions, what behaviors you thought were compromising or disturbing. Tell us how you REALLY feel in your own words without us having to spoon feed you what WE are noticing about you and your reactions. I can't help be describe Garcelle's interactions as someone who "accidentally" lets a sentiment "slip out" and then try to diplomatically express themselves and their intentions. 

Her boldness move is saying "that's how I felt" or not denying something but then letting it die and not back up WHY she felt the way she felt with examples and big feelings but instead she tries to wrap things up quickly and dismissively with a shrug and an okay. She had plenty of justified reasons to speak her mind, take them to task but all she could ever drum up was abbreviated responses that really never went anywhere. What it did do was let the women know that at the end of the day she had distain for them and didn't think that much of them which is her right but to carry that attitude into gatherings while never speaking your mind COMPLETELY and holding your ground and maybe having to take a couple of shots in the process is hella corny.

She never gave any of them anything they could debate with her about. She would lay something out then immediately try to shut the conversation down with an "but it's all right" and an "okay" and a shrug.. There was always a time limit with regards to how long she could carry a conversation that involved her truly expressing herself thoroughly and why she felt the way she felt. She was always so limited in those interactions and I think that's why she finally left because she realized she can't sit around in judgement of the others without actually voicing her reasoning. Sharing an unkind opinion and the only follow up being "it's how I feel" with no real explanation or reasoning behind it is just pretty shitty. Which is what Boz pointed out to her at the reunion. Boz let it be known that Garcelle's time of dropping opinions with no real back up isn't cool and it isn't funny and she wasn't gonna let Garcelle live in that safe space anymore. And rightly so,  if you think you have a good reason for having an unkind opinion about something then share it for crying out loud. That's what the show is about. 

 

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24 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Thing of it is. Garcelle has NO follow through. Garcelle has plenty of reasons to go for this one or that one. Garcelle lacks the ability to actually lead on anything. I do think Garcelle is mad about A LOT of stuff but doesn't actually want to be the one to go all in. We've seen how Garcelle NEEDED Sutton to go after Kyle. Garcelle tried to play the game this season and realized she wasn't cut out for it. She tried to bring the drama but reallized that when you take that step you need to be able to run with it and also to stand on your own two feet and she was expecting some cushion from Sutton meanwhile Suttons had to go through the gauntlet alone on many ocassions. Same should go for Garcelle.  

I think that is where I truly soured on Garcelle. The way she left and the mini rant she had in her dressing room just seemed so immature. A lot of clips are coming out from over the seasons showing her kinda sorta confrontations and it really does show a complete picture. Garcelle doesn't like to get in the mud but she does like to be in the fray. 

This is how I see it, Garcelle wanted to be a part of the cast/show but she wanted to do so as someone that wouldn't necessarily get any smoke. It's spelled out with all these clips and of course I'm all for staying out of the ridiculous drama but then she doesn't actually STAY OUT of the drama which of course she kinda can't because she's a full time housewife. 

I'm mainly disappointed in Garcelle because she has a lot to say but she never really completely says or addresses anything. She touch on it then let it fade and want to dismiss it as nothing or her opinion or "that's how I felt" yada yada. Her explanantions were so weak. Okay Garcelle, that's how you felt but WHY did you feel that way? Elaborate. Explain what made you come to these conclusions, what behaviors you thought were compromising or disturbing. Tell us how you REALLY feel in your own words without us having to spoon feed you what WE are noticing about you and your reactions. I can't help be describe Garcelle's interactions as someone who "accidentally" lets a sentiment "slip out" and then try to diplomatically express themselves and their intentions. 

Her boldness move is saying "that's how I felt" or not denying something but then letting it die and not back up WHY she felt the way she felt with examples and big feelings but instead she tries to wrap things up quickly and dismissively with a shrug and an okay. She had plenty of justified reasons to speak her mind, take them to task but all she could ever drum up was abbreviated responses that really never went anywhere. What it did do was let the women know that at the end of the day she had distain for them and didn't think that much of them which is her right but to carry that attitude into gatherings while never speaking your mind COMPLETELY and holding your ground and maybe having to take a couple of shots in the process is hella corny.

She never gave any of them anything they could debate with her about. She would lay something out then immediately try to shut the conversation down with an "but it's all right" and an "okay" and a shrug.. There was always a time limit with regards to how long she could carry a conversation that involved her truly expressing herself thoroughly and why she felt the way she felt. She was always so limited in those interactions and I think that's why she finally left because she realized she can't sit around in judgement of the others without actually voicing her reasoning. Sharing an unkind opinion and the only follow up being "it's how I feel" with no real explanation or reasoning behind it is just pretty shitty. Which is what Boz pointed out to her at the reunion. Boz let it be known that Garcelle's time of dropping opinions with no real back up isn't cool and it isn't funny and she wasn't gonna let Garcelle live in that safe space anymore. And rightly so,  if you think you have a good reason for having an unkind opinion about something then share it for crying out loud. That's what the show is about. 

 

yes .. yes she did and she got told she was over thinking and let it go ... everything she did she had a back up to but was told to shut up ..

the rewriting of this is amazing to me .. her POV was dismissed and forgotten by the other women AND Andy .. you can not tell me that when they were all laughing in her face about her book being thrown away and not even taking into account what that did to her where was the debate? you are making her the one that again has to have slides and a chalk board and MUST make these woman listen to her when they didnt had DIDNT give a shit

these women didnt want to debate they wanted her to shut the fuck up

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

yes .. yes she did and she got told she was over thinking and let it go ... everything she did she had a back up to but was told to shut up ..

the rewriting of this is amazing to me .. her POV was dismissed and forgotten by the other women AND Andy .. you can not tell me that when they were all laughing in her face about her book being thrown away and not even taking into account what that did to her where was the debate? you are making her the one that again has to have slides and a chalk board and MUST make these woman listen to her when they didnt had DIDNT give a shit

these women didnt want to debate they wanted her to shut the fuck up

None of these women give a shit. That's the show. Hello. And yes, yes she does have to explain herself. And if she gets resistance then she should push harder. She doesn't have to obviously but then you get a resentful housewife with pent up frustration who fade into the background but now with ALOT to say via social media and without the risk of being taken to the mat in person by the women she has so many opinions about. 

Again, I get it all. I saw the show. I'm saying that Garcelle was a punk about a lot of it. There. I think I've clarifed how I feel about Garcelle. I can feel that way and still understand the mistreatment by the others and honestly that's what's fueling my opinion. She didn't fight hard enough. Point blank period. They walked all over her cause she didn't put up enough of a fight on her own behalf so no, I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit here and create a narrative of poor Garcelle. People say she "ate" but she kinda didn't. She nibbled.

The show isn't for the weak of heart and she knew what she signed up for she just thought she could tip toe around and not really get too deep into it which I'm not all that mad at if you can pull it off. However, in her case she was in the thick of it on occasion and it was usually a poor showing. My criticism is that I didn't see enough of a backbone. She usually concedes pretty quickly which is her right but I mean then don't be mad that these women don't see, hear or care about you. Or at least don't be pressed about it, which she seems to be now. Either be above it and accept their distain of your obvious dismissal of them all or get in and find your spot and that means speaking up for more than a 2 minute back and forth. She did neither in the course of her run and now we are supposed give her brownie points and comforting pats on the back?

She's free of the show, she's a grown woman, she's unscathed and back to her fruitful, lovely life of offspring models, glam-ma responsibilities and beach house stays. She'll be aight without a coddling opinion from me. LOL. I call it like I see it and Garcelle's exit was plain ole lame. Blah. 

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Sutton struck me as exhausted by the end of this season. I honestly hope she leaves this show because I don't think she has the emotional/mental fortitude to continue with it.

As far as Garcelle is concerned, had I been her, I would've bailed (at least) a season or two ago because of the racial microaggressions and when her young sons were being attacked by racists (many of whom are likely a huge part of the RHOBH fanbase, if we're being totally honest, given how unhinged so many of them are).

But Garcelle is now free to live her life and stay busy. That's her real revenge against this show. Not needing it anymore.

At this point, I'd be surprised if she ever returned, even for a one-off guest spot.

16 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

None of these women give a shit. That's the show. Hello. And yes, yes she does have to explain herself. And if she gets resistance then she should push harder. She doesn't have to obviously but then you get a resentful housewife with pent up frustration who fade into the background but now with ALOT to say via social media and without the risk of being taken to the mat in person by the women she has so many opinions about. 

Again, I get it all. I saw the show. I'm saying that Garcelle was a punk about a lot of it. There. I think I've clarifed how I feel about Garcelle. I can feel that way and still understand the mistreatment by the others and honestly that's what's fueling my opinion. She didn't fight hard enough. Point blank period. They walked all over her cause she didn't put up enough of a fight on her own behalf so no, I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit here and create a narrative of poor Garcelle. People say she "ate" but she kinda didn't. She nibbled.

The show isn't for the weak of heart and she knew what she signed up for she just thought she could tip toe around and not really get too deep into it which I'm not all that mad at if you can pull it off. However, in her case she was in the thick of it on occasion and it was usually a poor showing. My criticism is that I didn't see enough of a backbone. She usually concedes pretty quickly which is her right but I mean then don't be mad that these women don't see, hear or care about you. Or at least don't be pressed about it, which she seems to be now. Either be above it and accept their distain of your obvious dismissal of them all or get in and find your spot and that means speaking up for more than a 2 minute back and forth. She did neither in the course of her run and now we are supposed give her brownie points and comforting pats on the back?

She's free of the show, she's a grown woman, she's unscathed and back to her fruitful, lovely life of offspring models, glam-ma responsibilities and beach house stays. She'll be aight without a coddling opinion from me. LOL. I call it like I see it and Garcelle's exit was plain ole lame. Blah. 

I also think quite a bit of it is related to the fact that Garcelle has had a steady career off the show and doesn't want to damage her brand/name by going full-tilt asshole the way that Rinna, Erika, and Dorit have.

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11 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

 

I also think quite a bit of it is related to the fact that Garcelle has had a steady career off the show and doesn't want to damage her brand/name by going full-tilt asshole the way that Rinna, Erika, and Dorit have.

True.

But honestly, what I really think is that Garcelle was just scared to engage. I think she shied away from the heated conflicts and when she found herself unable to slowly back away from the few she was involved she got very minimal in her contribution EVEN when SHE was the focus or topic. I completely understand why she would want to be measured in her approach but I mean there were certain times where honest and authentic emotions should have come into play. Where some no mistake firmness should have come into play and even then she watered it down. Look, if your that timid about playing in the mud then don't sign up to hang out at the swamp. Just saying. I can commend her mindful approach but what I can't commend is actually having these big feelings, having these big opinions, having these moments of petty and catty but still not wanting to truly participate all the way. She thought she could play on the edge but still have these women embrace her but girl all you did what reenforce that you won't actually be open with these women which is why you felt like an outsider. And I WOULDN'T WANT TO be open, but then I wouldn't be pressed at not having Erika or Kyle or Dorit feel a certain kind of way about me. I don't think she could have stomached the type of heat that Sutton got or any of the others during those unfortunate scream fests and she decided early on she wouldn't allow herself to walk into any stretched out confrontation. Good for her, but that left her guarded, dismissive and above it all. Okay, great but then why are you even there?

 

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11 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

True.

But honestly, what I really think is that Garcelle was just scared to engage. I think she shied away from the heated conflicts and when she found herself unable to slowly back away from the few she was involved she got very minimal in her contribution EVEN when SHE was the focus or topic. I completely understand why she would want to be measured in her approach but I mean there were certain times where honest and authentic emotions should have come into play. Where some no mistake firmness should have come into play and even then she watered it down. Look, if your that timid about playing in the mud then don't sign up to hang out at the swamp. Just saying. I can commend her mindful approach but what I can't commend is actually having these big feelings, having these big opinions, having these moments of petty and catty but still not wanting to truly participate all the way. She thought she could play on the edge but still have these women embrace her but girl all you did what reenforce that you won't actually be open with these women which is why you felt like an outsider. And I WOULDN'T WANT TO be open, but then I wouldn't be pressed at not having Erika or Kyle or Dorit feel a certain kind of way about me. I don't think she could have stomached the type of heat that Sutton got or any of the others during those unfortunate scream fests and she decided early on she wouldn't allow herself to walk into any stretched out confrontation. Good for her, but that left her guarded, dismissive and above it all. Okay, great but then why are you even there?

 

FWIW, I don't disagree with most of what you've been saying on this issue. I've been vocal about why she lost me a bit by the end of this season. Right now, it's not particularly popular to criticize Garcelle for any legitimate reason. Even for those of us who still genuinely like her as a person.

I do think there's self-preservation with regard to Garcelle and her image because, out of all the BH HWs, she has (probably) the cleanest backstory. The email blast to her ex-husband's coworkers about his cheating on her seems like the most egregious part of her backstory. Otherwise, she's normal and seems to have a lot of friends, acquaintances, and colleagues who genuinely adore her. 

I'm not sure going on this show was the best idea for Garcelle, but I'm guessing it was to draw attention to her career pivot into producing films. As far as HWs go, she's pretty inoffensive. Almost too normal for this show.

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Why does it have to be self preservation and just NOt who she is .. not everyone will burn down the house on the way out or want to be a dick to be a dick when they leave … we are so used to horrible actions from Erika and Rinna etc etc that we expect them all to have no moral compass and just be mean for means sake and that’s just not G 

Not everyone is an asshole 

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21 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Why does it have to be self preservation and just NOt who she is .. not everyone will burn down the house on the way out or want to be a dick to be a dick when they leave … we are so used to horrible actions from Erika and Rinna etc etc that we expect them all to have no moral compass and just be mean for means sake and that’s just not G 

Not everyone is an asshole 

I don't think Garcelle's an asshole.

I'm looking at it more from the perspective of Garcelle's lived an interesting life and has had a pretty robust career. 

I think being part of the HWs franchise can, to a degree, cause permanent damage to one's image if they're not careful with how they behave on the shows. 

Sometimes I think being on a show like this, and staying on long enough to become a villain, can ultimately backfire on a HW who's thinking of her life beyond the show.

A lot of the BH fans really hate Sutton. I'd wager, at some point, they would start to seriously ask how Garcelle can stay friends with someone like her.

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1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

I can't freaking believe I forgot about Rinna! She really blew herself up on this show. The upside for Rinna is she doesn't have the legal troubles Erika does. LOL

Rinna tried to morph it into I’m just playing a part and this isn’t really me .. sweety this isn’t a written tv show .. you literally blew up friendships IRL to stay on this show at what point do you just admit yes I am the asshole and it’s not fake especially when those other women weren’t playing this game 

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Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

Rinna tried to morph it into I’m just playing a part and this isn’t really me .. sweety this isn’t a written tv show .. you literally blew up friendships IRL to stay on this show at what point do you just admit yes I am the asshole and it’s not fake especially when those other women weren’t playing this game 

Rinna also tried to blame part of it on the death of Lois (who seemed like a wonderful woman, despite her tragic backstory).

I have listened to a few of Harry/Lisa's podcast episodes. Harry seems so down-to-earth, but yeah, Rinna still mentions this show on the podcast. Although she seems to frame the experience as if she quit the show. LOL. I do believe she's coaching some current HWs offscreen because some of the fights sound eerily like things she would've mentioned if she were still on the show.

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1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

Rinna also tried to blame part of it on the death of Lois (who seemed like a wonderful woman, despite her tragic backstory).

I have listened to a few of Harry/Lisa's podcast episodes. Harry seems so down-to-earth, but yeah, Rinna still mentions this show on the podcast. Although she seems to frame the experience as if she quit the show. LOL. I do believe she's coaching some current HWs offscreen because some of the fights sound eerily like things she would've mentioned if she were still on the show.

She wants back on sooo incredibly badly 

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4 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

She makes it seem like she approached Andy and was like, "I just can't do this anymore. I'm mourning."

Nah. You were fired, Rinna. Or as Dorinda would say, "put on pause." 

Even Brandi responded to that with "You were fired." LOL

She talks about the show to anyone that will listen and it’s always on her tongue but she doesn’t wanna go “back” 

 

she has no self awareness lol 

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1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She talks about the show to anyone that will listen and it’s always on her tongue but she doesn’t wanna go “back” 

 

she has no self awareness lol 

I feel as if every episode title has RHOBH in it. She truly cannot let it go. She does talk about other things, but not sure why she feels the need to talk about the show anymore.

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47 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Rinna 100% and Erika is coming close 

Rinna actually had a long career previously (as dead as it was) on the soaps, TV,  talk shows, commercials etc. dating back to the 1990s.  As she was aging out of Hollywood RHOBH probably seemed like a good idea, and maybe lead to other things. 

Erika on the other hand was the arm candy of a much older man.  Her only career outside of trophy wife was a vanity show financed 100% by her husband and collapsed when the money stopped.  Her only claim to fame has always been RHOBH, so not much to lose really. 

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Why does it have to be self preservation and just NOt who she is .. not everyone will burn down the house on the way out or want to be a dick to be a dick when they leave … we are so used to horrible actions from Erika and Rinna etc etc that we expect them all to have no moral compass and just be mean for means sake and that’s just not G 

Not everyone is an asshole 

Well she kinda did leave on asshole status cause she spoke her mind on social media and not on the couch in front of everyone when she had the chance and she sure as hell decided to put a huge target on Suttons back cause Garcelle had a hair up her ass about her friends choice of friends. Something I doubt Sutton knew flowed as deep as it apparently did with Garcelle.  Sutton may have mismanaged her friendship with Garcelle but good golly you would think Garcelle had to check herself into therapy cause Sutton so desparately wants to befriend Kyle. Gimme a break already. 

Anyhoo, I would be all about it if she put it all out on the table, had a nice outpouring of truth, spoke her mind, held her own, said it with her chest then said peace I'm out and boy oh boy would that have been something. As it is, we have EVERYONE else creating the "Good for you", "Atta Girl", pumped up narratives on how she departed which isn't actually the case. I can get behind her reasoning for leaving and I understand just not wanting to anymore but girlfriend just bounced. That's all. 

Nothing grand, nothing noteworthy and she was pretty pouty and childish about it to boot so as valid as her reasons for leaving are I find this High Five, You Go Girl reception she's getting to be quite comical. Sure we can fill in the blanks and "insert good reason here" on her behalf on why she's leaving but it's the fact that it needs to be done because Garcelle couldn't muster up the courage to do so for herself at the reunion when she had the opportunity. Meh.

Now, when things aren't going to be that risky or not much will be at sake you watch, Garcelle will come out of her shell more. Maybe, maybe not but I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a tad bit more vocal about how she REALLY feels now that she doesn't have to worry about facing a firing squad but only time will tell. Wack. 

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35 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Rinna actually had a long career previously (as dead as it was) on the soaps, TV,  talk shows, commercials etc. dating back to the 1990s.  As she was aging out of Hollywood RHOBH probably seemed like a good idea, and maybe lead to other things. 

I enjoyed Rinna in her early seasons because she played it as if she were her Melrose Place character, Taylor McBride, but as Lisa Rinna.

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6 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Well she kinda did leave on asshole status cause she spoke her mind on social media and not on the couch in front of everyone when she had the chance and she sure as hell decided to put a huge target on Suttons back cause Garcelle had a hair up her ass about her friends choice of friends. Something I doubt Sutton knew flowed as deep as it apparently did with Garcelle.  Sutton may have mismanaged her friendship with Garcelle but good golly you would think Garcelle had to check herself into therapy cause Sutton so desparately wants to befriend Kyle. Gimme a break already. 

Anyhoo, I would be all about it if she put it all out on the table, had a nice outpouring of truth, spoke her mind, held her own, said it with her chest then said peace I'm out and boy oh boy would that have been something. As it is, we have EVERYONE else creating the "Good for you", "Atta Girl", pumped up narratives on how she departed which isn't actually the case. I can get behind her reasoning for leaving and I understand just not wanting to anymore but girlfriend just bounced. That's all. 

Nothing grand, nothing noteworthy and she was pretty pouty and childish about it to boot so as valid as her reasons for leaving are I find this High Five, You Go Girl reception she's getting to be quite comical. Sure we can fill in the blanks and "insert good reason here" on her behalf on why she's leaving but it's the fact that it needs to be done because Garcelle couldn't muster up the courage to do so for herself at the reunion when she had the opportunity. Meh.

Now, when things aren't going to be that risky or not much will be at sake you watch, Garcelle will come out of her shell more. Maybe, maybe not but I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a tad bit more vocal about how she REALLY feels now that she doesn't have to worry about facing a firing squad but only time will tell. Wack. 

SHE put a target on Sutton’s back? Sutton has had a target on her back from season one that has NOTHING to do with Garcille .. ABSOLUTELY nothing 

 

she’s actually had Sutton’s back against these woman when they were attacking her .. 

now she’s gonna be blamed for NOt being there? 

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5 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

SHE put a target on Sutton’s back? Sutton has had a target on her back from season one that has NOTHING to do with Garcille .. ABSOLUTELY nothing 

Well I'm taking about the part that DOES involve Garcelle.

First was snitching on her to Kyle. (Nice friend)

Second, her post mentioning Sutton specifically and sharing and confirming with the world that yes everyone, be mad at Sutton on my behalf cause I have finally come out and confirmed that I am absolutely feeling abandoned by her. 

Did she really need to confirm to the viewers? She's done with the show so whY? There really wasn't a huge fall out between her and Sutton aside from the fact that Garcelle was upset about something that has transpired BUT NOT YET discussed with her "friend". I mean damn. Sutton be lacking but Sutton's never completely thrown Garcelle to the wolves. 

Nah, bitch move. 

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Just now, Yours Truly said:

Well I'm taking about the part that DOES involve Garcelle.

First was snitching on her to Kyle. (Nice friend)

Second, her post mentioning Sutton specifically and sharing and confirming with the world that yes everyone, be mad at Sutton on my behalf cause I have finally come out and confirmed that I am absolutely feeling abandoned by her. 

Did she really need to confirm to the viewers? She's done with the show so whY? There really wasn't a huge fall out between her and Sutton aside from the fact that Garcelle was upset about something that has transpired BUT NOT YET discussed with her "friend". I mean damn. Sutton be lacking but Sutton's never completely thrown Garcelle to the wolves. 

Nah, bitch move. 

Snitching … looks around at the cameras .. Sutton has spoken ON camera about this stuff .. Garcille didn’t hold a gun to get head .. Kyle was gonna see it how is it snitching

If it’s said on camera it’s IN play .. it’s always been like that 

I can’t believe you told her .. rolls “private” conversation said full ON camera . lol like come on 

Surrealist

Surrealist

I really think RHOBH fans need to un-insert themselves from the Garcelle/Sutton friendship fallout drama as it pertains to social media and the comments. 

We don't know any of these women personally, and we're going by what we see on a heavily edited and producer-driven reality show.

It's one thing for us to discuss and even argue with one another here but it's another thing to "chase" these women on their socials, as if we know everything about them and their interpersonal dynamics. It's like, go touch grass and find a hobby.

I'd be willing to bet most of these people have folks in their lives who would say shit about how they do friendship.

I keep harping on this, but the whole thing is really ridiculous to me.

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Yours Truly

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1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Snitching … looks around at the cameras .. Sutton has spoken ON camera about this stuff .. Garcille didn’t hold a gun to get head .. Kyle was gonna see it how is it snitching

If it’s said on camera it’s IN play .. it’s always been like that 

I can’t believe you told her .. rolls “private” conversation said full ON camera . lol like come on 

She didn't say Kyle made "a chess move" on camera. 

It pretty spelled out when Garcelle brought it up.

"Kyle came to us off camera...." "Sutton, what did you say? Sutton answers...Garcelle inserts "you said that was a chess move". This was all off camera and a shitty thing for Garcelle to do.

So the only person she's got the balls to call out to that degree is her "friend" Sutton. 

I didn't like the way she moved. Point Blank Period. Putting Sutton on the spot of all people when she had so many opinions and thoughts on everyone else was just all kinds of cowardly. She couldn't cut it with the other ladies so she went in on Sutton. Not cool.

Garcelle was the one that made it into some huge thing at the end hence the confusion of the cast and Andy. Then she decided that Sutton would go down for it instead of who is truly at fault for Garcelle's aggravation (the other ladies) Garcelle ended up doing  what everyone else has done and made Sutton the scapegoat for her own mishandling of the season.  And that has left a very bad taste in my mouth.

 

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SweetieDarling

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5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Rinna tried to morph it into I’m just playing a part and this isn’t really me .. sweety this isn’t a written tv show .. you literally blew up friendships IRL to stay on this show at what point do you just admit yes I am the asshole and it’s not fake especially when those other women weren’t playing this game 

YES!!

The fact that it isn't scripted and she chose to behave like that repeatedly, regardless of the impact it had on other people's actual lives, proves that she is an asshole extraordinaire

 

 

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nicole21290

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12 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean was it a really a push tho .. kyle was out here posting about it to her socials following this woman around .. but she cant say boo about it ON camera? This after she brought her on the show and made a big thing about it .. feeding each other giggling getting matching tatts .. its  just all so odd and weird ..

For what it's worth, given that Kyle had already denied the relationship, the only 'new' stuff Garcelle was using as justification for asking further questions was Kyle being seen at a concert (Kyle herself never posted on her socials about going to ANY gigs during filming of S14) and potentially one single set of paparazzi photos from May (they were only spotted that week and not at all again between March and September 2024). Kyle also reposted one Instagram story of them with two other women at Courteney Cox's birthday party, and one promotional Instagram story for Morgan's music. That was IT. 

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Keywestclubkid

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11 hours ago, nicole21290 said:

For what it's worth, given that Kyle had already denied the relationship, the only 'new' stuff Garcelle was using as justification for asking further questions was Kyle being seen at a concert (Kyle herself never posted on her socials about going to ANY gigs during filming of S14) and potentially one single set of paparazzi photos from May (they were only spotted that week and not at all again between March and September 2024). Kyle also reposted one Instagram story of them with two other women at Courteney Cox's birthday party, and one promotional Instagram story for Morgan's music. That was IT. 

denied the relationship AFTER making it a focal point .. thats the thing you guys keep forgetting (Garcille didn't pull this out of her ass it wasnt brought to her by someone OFF show that was never mentioned ON show till she said something).. Kyle brought this woman on and did everything but have sex with her in front of these girls then decided you know what never mind you cant talk about this .. NO Garcille didnt force anything that Kyle didnt already bring to the show

nope girls you cant talk about the chick im still hanging around all the time .. and fed and giggled with and did a steamy video with and got matching tats with ..and STILL following her around like a groupie and posting this stuff to socials (yes she is its all over them and shes doing freaking interviews about it OFF show) so its ok for her to talk everywhere else but on show?  (that makes no sense)

 

like be real people then undecided it at the last reunion and then did  the circle talk around it this reunion .. but its Garcille that's the issue ..

i mean Denise denied and they still drug her ass then ran her off the show but cant do that with kyle who brought this shit herself to the show .. its hypocritical to blame Garicille but funny Kyle and the faux force can do it to another housewife that wasn’t close to them but when it’s Kyle it’s clutch pearls everyone must fall in line and not speak about it .. that’s fucked up and shows another difference in what they can do and find ok and what other housewives can ..Esp when they(Kyle herself) bring(brought) the story line themselves(herself) .. compared to trying to take Denise down so inviting off camera shit on to get at her

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Pi237

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I don’t mind that some think Garcelles exit was a cop out. I can understand how it seems that way because she did that thing a lot of people do online, they’ll post about how sad or hurt they are and when you ask, what’s up? They say “nothing. Nevermind.” It’s annoying.  Say it out loud or don’t allude to It at all.  However, I see this as a build of things and I’m a lot like that-once I’m done, I’m Done. I’m not going to back and forth with you or give you a chance to make excuses. I tried and now I’m Done,  doesn’t make for interesting tv but I get it.  I wish a she’d have put it all out there, but I don’t think it’s because she’s afraid of confrontation. She has a history of just blurting out what everyone is thinking and never looks scared to me, just pissed off. And then she’d be left holding the bag, and I agree, she’s not good at that. She expects them to say what they’re whispering behind backs and they just wouldn’t do it. So, she gave up.  That’s how I see it, and I’m totally cool with anyone disagreeing. I’m not that Invested in their lives that I take it personally lol. Garcelle will be fine.  I also think she’ll definitely be watching the show next season with popcorn and wine at the ready.  She’s Done but she’ll still be watching…

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Yours Truly

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18 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

I don’t mind that some think Garcelles exit was a cop out. I can understand how it seems that way because she did that thing a lot of people do online, they’ll post about how sad or hurt they are and when you ask, what’s up? They say “nothing. Nevermind.” It’s annoying.  Say it out loud or don’t allude to It at all.  However, I see this as a build of things and I’m a lot like that-once I’m done, I’m Done. I’m not going to back and forth with you or give you a chance to make excuses. I tried and now I’m Done,  doesn’t make for interesting tv but I get it.  I wish a she’d have put it all out there, but I don’t think it’s because she’s afraid of confrontation. She has a history of just blurting out what everyone is thinking and never looks scared to me, just pissed off. And then she’d be left holding the bag, and I agree, she’s not good at that. She expects them to say what they’re whispering behind backs and they just wouldn’t do it. So, she gave up.  That’s how I see it, and I’m totally cool with anyone disagreeing. I’m not that Invested in their lives that I take it personally lol. Garcelle will be fine.  I also think she’ll definitely be watching the show next season with popcorn and wine at the ready.  She’s Done but she’ll still be watching…

Agreed!

The internet is a buzz with Garcelle and to be honest I'm sure she ain't mad at that either. 

So touche' Garcelle. 

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Surrealist

Surrealist

4 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Agreed!

The internet is a buzz with Garcelle and to be honest I'm sure she ain't mad at that either. 

So touche' Garcelle. 

They definitely all pay attention to what's being said on social media and on podcasts (because they go on them as guests).

I'm sure the unfollowing is both (1) because she's moving on, and (2) because the fans are a bunch of badgering assholes who insert themselves in others' conflicts.

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Keywestclubkid

Keywestclubkid

1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

 

I'm sure the unfollowing is both (1) because she's moving on, and (2) because the fans are a bunch of badgering assholes who insert themselves in others' conflicts.

none of these ladies were in her corner so shes cutting ties .. I think it has more to do with her boundaries and leaving this mess in the past then it does fans and our comments 

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Surrealist

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

none of these ladies were in her corner so shes cutting ties .. I think it has more to do with her boundaries and leaving this mess in the past then it does fans and our comments 

I mostly agree with you on this point. FWIW, we're usually in agreement on everything here.

That said I think all the HWs (not just Garcelle, but franchise-wise) keep a close eye on what's being said on social media. They talk about it on the show.  They're gauging what's being said about them, or about a situation. Even if the HWs have an assistant tracking social media, they know exactly what's being said about them, and I think the fan reactions find their way onto the show, just as much as I think Rinna is coaching people offscreen, despite not having been on the show in a couple of years.

Like Garcelle, I'd unfollow people I no longer like and trust because why keep that negativity in my TL? I'm not judging her for unfollowing most of the BH HWs. 

Where it gets fuzzy is that fans were in Garcelle's following list and searching to see who she would unfollow. They noticed that while Garcelle unfollowed Sutton, she was still following Sutton's business accounts. Fans started ramping themselves up over that and talking to one another about when they thought Garcelle would unfollow the business accounts too. Within hours, Garcelle had unfollowed those business accounts. For me, the timing feels a bit suspicious, but it's possible that it was a coincidence.

ETA: I also acknowledge the possibility that Garcelle does something (e.g. unfollows someone) and certain fans might think she did so after reading their comments/tweets, but her decision had nothing to do with them.

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Surrealist

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10 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Those people are unhinged. I’ve never posted on someone’s page, ‘I don’t like you!’ I stick to the gossip boards like a Grown Up lol 

Right?!

I understand venting on a fan forum like this one. That doesn't bother me. It's the purpose of the fan forums: to discuss shows/films and the people who on them/their characters.

However, I cannot imagine traipsing over to a stranger's socials to troll and bash them for reasons that have nothing to do with me. 

 

ETA: Although it'd be cool if Jennifer and Sutton could get Crystal back onto the show. We know Crystal has no issue when it comes to confronting people for their b.s. either.

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ivygirl

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I know public figures are generally discouraged from deleting negative comments, but I would 100% be behind Jennifer deleting hostile comments about her friends on a PERSONAL post. She’s not explicitly posting about the show. I get that the line is a little blurry because they’ve all been on the show, but in this case, 🤷🏻‍♀️because these people are so unhinged.

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