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S02.E03: Harvest

Mr. Sparkle

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Fool to cry

Fool to cry

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I was so scared because certain shows on Disney Plus have been pushing it lately. I was like "C'mon hasn't Bix been through enough?!"

RIP Brasso. Damn it.

Dedra's actually got a beautiful smile.

I sometimes lie on the bed like Syril.

"I wish you were drunk." Dang.

I was not feeling the wedding until the Disco droid showed up.

When Cinta showed up I thought "Oh Tay's dead."

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thuganomics85

thuganomics85

Damn, I know this show has always been known for being the more "adult"/mature Star Wars, but I wasn't expecting them to actually have the creepy Imperial officer try to sexual assault Bix and she even straight up say he was trying to rape her to the other solider.  Might not be a groundbreaking taboo, but for a Disney+ show, that is a pretty straightforward approach to what almost happened.  Hard to watch, but I respect them for not hiding that guy's intentions.

Fare thee well, Brasso.  Have a feeling that anyone that doesn't show up in Rogue One is fair game here.  Especially since Cassian by then will be even more harden than he is now.

Dedra facing down Syril's mother was not on my bingo list, but I loved that and every other minute of the "dinner from hell."  Still wild to me that Syril and Dedra are actually a couple now, but it might end up being one my favorite things about this season if they keep it up.

Glad to know that there are droids out there whose sole purpose is to show up to events and parties, and play bangers to jam too!  Don't blame Mon at all for gulping down the drinks and partying a bit.  Between the bullshit with Tay (that I'm sure Luthen and Cinta have taken care of for good) and the way her daughter is treating her, woman deserves that and a vacation!

Pretty good return all around, but I think this was my favorite out of the three.  Really can't wait to see how this all plays out the next three weeks!

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dwmarch

dwmarch

I take it this is the first explicit reference to sexual assault in Star Wars? I haven't seen The Clone Wars or Rebels but I somehow have a feeling it didn't come up in those shows.

Cassian was bitching to Kleya that he had no idea how to drive the TIE Fighter but once he found out his homies were in trouble he sure got those controls figured out quick.

Does that TIE Fighter have a toilet in it? I guess I don't need to see Cassian shit on the floor and then vaporize it with his blaster but the previous episodes did get into the logistics of food and water so that has me wondering.

1 hour ago, Fool to cry said:

"I wish you were drunk." Dang.

And just when I was starting to like her too! Don't give your mom grief like that! She's trying to do something nice for you!

On that note, I appreciate that Mon Mothma eventually said fuck it, do it live and started pounding back shots and dancing her stress away.

Did anyone else notice the first three episodes had slightly more comedic moments in them? Not outright comedy but a few chuckles here and there.

1 minute ago, thuganomics85 said:

Dedra facing down Syril's mother was not on my bingo list

It was on mine. I said last season that Dedra is his mommy now. It's kind of hilarious because it's really just that partner who will flag down the server because your order specifically said "no onions". No it is not okay and they are going to fix it!

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Spartan Girl

Spartan Girl

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7 hours ago, dwmarch said:

 

On that note, I appreciate that Mon Mothma eventually said fuck it, do it live and started pounding back shots and dancing her stress away.

Reminded me of Jen’s drunk wedding dancing in She-Hulk, and I love that for her. But I don’t know how she’s going to be able to live with herself knowing that her meddling to cover up her involvement got one of her own friends taken out. This show really isn’t afraid to show the dark side of the rebellion and question whether the ends truly justify the means. Did Tay really deserve to die, not to mention have his life fall apart because he got sucked into all this? Yes, he threatened to sell them out to save his own ass, but considering it was Mon’s idea to recruit him in the first place…it’s just all a big mess.

I am officially calling it now: something bad happens to her husband and daughter. This episode reminded us that anyone is fair game if they aren’t in the movies. Hell, we know what happens to Cassian after this show…

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Fool to cry

Fool to cry

5 hours ago, dwmarch said:

I take it this is the first explicit reference to sexual assault in Star Wars? I haven't seen The Clone Wars or Rebels but I somehow have a feeling it didn't come up in those shows.

No it didn't come up. There's slavery mentioned and the implicitness of that but not SA. This was the first time the word "rape" has been said in a Star Wars.

 

Raja

Raja

7 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Dedra facing down Syril's mother was not on my bingo list, but I loved that and every other minute of the "dinner from hell."  Still wild to me that Syril and Dedra are actually a couple now, but it might end up being one my favorite things about this season if they keep it up.

At the beginning I was saying it feels like Dedra was undercover. Then with Syril in bed I was thinking she roofied him when the Dedra we know dropped the mask to let mother-in-law know what's what.

2 hours ago, Fool to cry said:

No it didn't come up. There's slavery mentioned and the implicitness of that but not SA. This was the first time the word "rape" has been said in a Star Wars.

So when I get to the reviews on YouTube I have to hear about "grape"

7 hours ago, thuganomics85 said:

Might not be a groundbreaking taboo, but for a Disney+ show, that is a pretty straightforward approach to what almost happened. 

This is the only Star Wars show I made it past a couple of episodes but in streaming news when the MCU got into trouble they brought the Netflix Marvel as is. And now with bringing all the Hulu stuff over for a dual distribution point Disney + ain't Uncle Walt's anymore. Visually they have gone even further than some Netflix F bombs and bodily mayhem 0n Daredevil: Born Again.

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Kmr

Kmr

I loved that these episodes there has been questions about Luthen being there and it seemed somewhat of a coincidence that Davo had gotten a wedding present from Luthen. You could almost believe that Davo, as someone who is trying to appear a certain way to high society, would get a gift from the same place Mon often shops.

Then in his speech he mentioned how Luthen came to him just about a year ago with the lead about the statue. 
 

So he has been aware of Tay visiting Davo frequently and Luthen must have had an idea about Tay betrayal. He came to the wedding for confirmation and had Cinta waiting once he got it. 

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angora

angora

Thank goodness for DJ Droid, B2EMO playing with a bunch of kids, and Cassian's continued struggles with the TIE fighter, 'cause this was a heavy episode. Poor Brasso. God, poor Bix! I was sad that their farmer friend turned them in. At least B2EMO is with someone nice who will look after him, but I really hope this isn't the last we see of him!

It's to the show's credit that they're able to show the Mon Mothma scenes amid the other characters' hardships and still have you go, "No, things are awful for her too." She has privileges that characters like the Ferrix crew don't, but she's just seen her daughter bartered into marriage (that scene before the ceremony with her and Leida was so good,) her oldest friend has intimated that it'd be financially advantageous to betray them, and she's just realized he's going to be killed--to protect *her* position. I really felt that release at the wedding celebration.

That Cinta reveal was too good, loved it! (Side note: it's going to be such a head trip to watch Varada Sethu on Andor and Doctor Who at the same time this season.)

So weirded out to see Dedra and Syril being domestic together. When she was picking out an outfit and he was chopping vegetables like a man possessed? Fantastic. Loved seeing Dedra go toe-to-toe with Eedy and live to tell about it.

First half was lite on Cassian, but he made up for it in that last act. I liked seeing him get angry about the mission screw-ups/bad intel, and it's heartening to see that, while he's dedicated to the Rebellion, his people are still his first priority. That final shot of his face as they're flying away was soooooo good!

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MsNewsradio

MsNewsradio

2 hours ago, angora said:

 Poor Brasso. God, poor Bix! I was sad that their farmer friend turned them in. At least B2EMO is with someone nice who will look after him, but I really hope this isn't the last we see of him!

The farmer friend didn’t turn them in. Brasso said that in front of the Imperials to throw suspicion off the farmer and his family for any punishment they might otherwise get if they had thought they were “harboring” them. 

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angora

angora

54 minutes ago, MsNewsradio said:

The farmer friend didn’t turn them in. Brasso said that in front of the Imperials to throw suspicion off the farmer and his family for any punishment they might otherwise get if they had thought they were “harboring” them. 

Oh, thank goodness! When he first said it, I hoped it was something like that, but I didn't catch that Brasso really was just covering for them.

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Tachi Rocinante

Tachi Rocinante

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On 4/23/2025 at 3:40 AM, dwmarch said:

And just when I was starting to like her too! Don't give your mom grief like that! She's trying to do something nice for you!

An arranged marriage to a child? I do give credit to her daughter for seeing through Mon's "runaway bride" bullshit.

What the fuck was that rock, paper, scissors, snake, bear claw, scary face crap?

If that was Yavin 4, some of those rebels are probably too stupid to die.

For the three-episode arc, color me slightly underwhelmed. 

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Shanna Marie

Shanna Marie

On 4/23/2025 at 3:35 AM, thuganomics85 said:

Dedra facing down Syril's mother was not on my bingo list, but I loved that and every other minute of the "dinner from hell."  Still wild to me that Syril and Dedra are actually a couple now, but it might end up being one my favorite things about this season if they keep it up.

One thing I love about this show is the way the villains are fully fleshed-out human beings, so that you find yourself actually cheering for them against other people when they're not up against the good guys, and then you feel weird about it. Dedra reading the riot act to Syril's mother was a big "you go, girl!" moment, and then I remembered that she's perfectly willing to torture and kill people. Syril is such a slimy twit, but it was satisfying to see someone stand up for him, and the expressions on his mother's face when he came back into the room and she'd clearly been terrorized into good behavior by Dedra were so satisfying. For once, Dedra was actually using her powers for good. As creepy as Syril is, he doesn't deserve the way his mother treats him.

I was trying to figure out the timeline, though. They're only about 15-16 years into the Empire now, so Dedra couldn't have been raised entirely in an Imperial orphanage. It would have had to have started under the Republic, and she'd have been old enough to notice that shift. She's got to be at least 30, so she'd have been practically grown when the Empire began. I guess they'd have been brainwashed into the Imperial party line, so she may not want to bring up the Republic.

I am not okay with what happened to Brasso. I just rewatched season 1, and he's become one of my favorite characters. He's basically the perfect friend, kind and sturdy, the sort of person who checks in on sick old people and looks after grieving droids. He also gives the best hugs. I imagine that when he hugs you, you know you've been hugged.

B2EMO playing with the kids was utterly adorable.

The wardrobe for the wedding scenes was amazing. I love the pleating in some of the outfits and those veils. The way the dancing was shot toward the end was a work of art with the light, colors, and motion, and just enough of a blur that we felt like we were there dancing, ourselves. It was just beautiful to look at.

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Fool to cry

Fool to cry

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I admit I didn't know what to make of the new comical tone of some of the scenes this season when I was watching it but now I understand the contrast of the rebels' immature squabbling with the scary efficiency of the Krennic meeting means the Rebellion needs to step up and change. Also I was worried before this season that Alan Tudyk's K-2SO(who I loved in Rogue One) wouldn't fit with this more serious show. Now having a 7 foot tall murder droid that acts like a sulky nine year old won't seem that weird after the goofy Star Wars version of "rock paper scissors"!

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Sarah 103

Sarah 103

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On 4/23/2025 at 1:58 AM, Fool to cry said:

I was not feeling the wedding until the Disco droid showed up.

Disco droid was one of the best things about the wedding. Was Disco droid just reflective lights that floated or was it also the DJ? 

On 4/23/2025 at 3:35 AM, thuganomics85 said:

Dedra facing down Syril's mother was not on my bingo list, but I loved that and every other minute of the "dinner from hell."  

I have highly conflicting opinions on Syril's mother. I think she is simultaneously offensive, but it's also incredibly funny watching Syril and Dedra play off of her. 

On 4/23/2025 at 8:54 AM, Spartan Girl said:

This episode reminded us that anyone is fair game if they aren’t in the movies.

That was one of things I liked about Rogue One. It was mostly new characters we hadn't seen before, so there was little franchise immunity (They can't kill him/her because they show up later in the Original Trilogy). 

13 hours ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

What the fuck was that rock, paper, scissors, snake, bear claw, scary face crap?

I have no idea but I would love to know what the different things were, and which thing can overpower which other thing. 

13 hours ago, Tachi Rocinante said:

For the three-episode arc, color me slightly underwhelmed. 

I also feel like to some extent it's table setting. I'm willing to treat the first three episodes as the season premiere, which is usually checking in with everyone, letting us know where they are, and giving us hints as to what is to come during the season. 

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Raja

Raja

19 hours ago, KeithJ said:

Did we really need the dinner with Syrill’s mother?  No.

"I will guarantee a level of engagement, but it will be inversely proportional to the volume of anxiety you generate in our lives."

Some think we need a glowing sword fest. The day to day of folks other than Jedi's and Darth's like Luthen and Dedra is what makes this show along with Rogue One the only on-screen Star Wars I've actually liked since The Empire Strikes Back

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Shanna Marie

Shanna Marie

23 hours ago, KeithJ said:

Did we really need the dinner with Syrill’s mother?  No.

Absolutely we did. It told us a lot about Dedra, Syril, and their relationship, besides being a fabulous scene. Besides, at this point in the story, we don't yet know what we do or don't need because we don't know what's coming that this could be setting up.

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wanderingstar

wanderingstar

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Dedra and Syril will never not make my skin crawl, but Dedra laying down the law with Syril's mom was something to see. Syril throwing himself on his bed like it was a fainting couch made me laugh.

Mon dancing while absolutely distraught just broke my heart. I fear for what's going to happen to Perrin and Leida. And I feel a little bad for Tay, even though he threatened to turn on Mon. His life fell apart due to helping Mon, so I do have empathy for him.

Bix has been through so much. I HATED seeing her suffering more at the hands of that awful imperial officer. Thank goodness she got to end him. I want her to have a chance to heal this season.

Cassian coming in to save the day on Mina-Rau was cathartic. His face as he flew off the planet with Bix and Wil in tow. 

RIP, Brasso. You were a real one.

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Emily Thrace

Emily Thrace

2 hours ago, Shanna Marie said:

Absolutely we did. It told us a lot about Dedra, Syril, and their relationship, besides being a fabulous scene. Besides, at this point in the story, we don't yet know what we do or don't need because we don't know what's coming that this could be setting up.

Yeah I still feel like Dedra could go either way but I always felt Syril would end up on the side of the rebels eventually. He has too much of a fixation on right and wrong to stay on the side of the Empire forever. Eventually his loyalty to the Empire is going to come in to conflict with his personal moral compass and he would switch over. Dedra on the other hand is so far in I'm  not sure what would bring her out. Although the way Creepy Krennic was staring at her I wonder if there might be trouble there. He was only slightly less obvious than the animal that went after Bix.

Perrin is always a bit of an enigma. I have wondered how much he actually knows and if he would actually protect Mon or just hand her over. He is another character who seems to operate on his own code. I always thought it would be more interesting if he knew what was going on and didn't necessarily approve but was protecting Mon because he feels it's his duty as her husband. 

All the mentions of "illegals" and workers needed for the harvest was awesome and perfectly timely. It's even more ironic considering there was no way they new what was going to be happening now when this was written or even filmed. 

Poor Brasso he was too good to last. Also Kassian better be planning to go back and get B2.

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aemom

aemom

On 4/24/2025 at 9:26 AM, Shanna Marie said:

The wardrobe for the wedding scenes was amazing. I love the pleating in some of the outfits and those veils. The way the dancing was shot toward the end was a work of art with the light, colors, and motion, and just enough of a blur that we felt like we were there dancing, ourselves. It was just beautiful to look at.

I noticed all of that too. The costume department did such an outstanding job. Even when they were walking up that mountain, the clothes were so beautiful and interesting. I hope they win some awards.

On 4/24/2025 at 9:42 PM, KeithJ said:

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one.  For three episodes, not a whole lot happened.  Did they need to spend that much time on the wedding?  No.  Did we really need the dinner with Syrill’s mother?  No.

It was the same thing for Season 1. The first 3 episodes kind of set everything up and then - boom - the show really took off.

 

This show is one of the best things to come out of the Star Wars world and I'm so glad it's back. We re-watched Rogue One a couple of weeks ago and took advantage of the Disney 15 minute Season 1 recap which I really needed since so much time has passed since the previous season. I can't wait for next week!

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Raja

Raja

13 hours ago, Emily Thrace said:

Yeah I still feel like Dedra could go either way but I always felt Syril would end up on the side of the rebels eventually. He has too much of a fixation on right and wrong to stay on the side of the Empire forever. Eventually his loyalty to the Empire is going to come in to conflict with his personal moral compass and he would switch over. Dedra on the other hand is so far in I'm  not sure what would bring her out. Although the way Creepy Krennic was staring at her I wonder if there might be trouble there. He was only slightly less obvious than the animal that went after Bix.

Dedra looks so much like the stereotypical Nazi just story wise I can see her making the babyface turn

Ziggy

Ziggy

19 hours ago, Shanna Marie said:

Absolutely we did. It told us a lot about Dedra, Syril, and their relationship, besides being a fabulous scene. Besides, at this point in the story, we don't yet know what we do or don't need because we don't know what's coming that this could be setting up.

I was thinking the same thing. How often do we rewatch a season and notice tons of moments in the first few episodes that didn’t seem important at the time but turn out to be very significant?

I’m a big fan of just taking it all in, because there was a usuals nice payoff at the end.

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