S14.E18: Reunion Part 1

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I think that Erica may have either borrowed the dress or bought it as ready to wear off the rack somewhere (even maybe a resale or consignment shop) and then had it altered to her measurements.  That is why she didn't mention who the designer was - it wasn't any designer that was noteworthy or would elevate her in any way.

I do think that Erica is "struggling" financially (not struggling like normal people, but "rich-girl" struggling).

I noticed, however, that Andy didn't ask the other ladies who did their dresses.  I feel like Andy sometimes knows certain things and brings up these innocuous questions to throw a little shade at whomever he chooses.  

From Ronald Richards:

Erika Girardi appears objectively to be having money problems.  Finally, it looks like the legal fee gravy train is running dry.   We base this on the following:  Erika Girardi did not file a reply brief for her appeal of the denial of her motion to dismiss the Christopher Psaila complaint in the 9th Circuit.  This never happens.  Second, as reported earlier, she is facing an imminent default in Florida.  An extension was granted for her reply brief as you see below, but then Evan Borges never filed one.  We reached out to her attorney to ask him if there was anything going on other than the obvious reason, he is not being paid.  @erikajayne The response was crickets.  The multiple legal actions and the price tag have now caught up with her.  The lawsuit benefactor well looks like it is becoming dry. 
ORDER FILED. The motion (Docket Entry No. 30) for an extension of time to file the reply brief is  granted. The optional reply brief is due February 18, 2025.  To facilitate timely submission of cases for decision, no further motions for extensions of time to file the  reply brief will be granted absent extraordinary and compelling circumstances. If the reply brief is not  filed by February 18, 2025, the case may be submitted on the briefs already on file. [Entered:  

[islandgal140]

I actually have to watch the final 2 episodes but I did watch most of the reunion and I am HEATED!

FUCK ERIKA JAYNE!

She wants to know about Garcelle's love life? Where is Erika's man? We ain't see hide nor hare of no man, only Erika talking some BS about needing some "d". If she patted her puss this reunion, the studio would've been enveloped in clouds of dust and cobwebs. 

She thinks Garcelle is boring? Erika literally gave us wallpaper and paint drying. I would take Garcelle's boring since it isn't soak in the blood money of dead victims.

I am surprised my head didn't explode when Kyle called Sutton and Garcelle mean girls.

Kyle told on herself when she said calling her a lesbian was an attempt to embarrass her. 

And no Erika, you and Garcelle didn't both marry old ugly white men. Just you! Garcelle's ex may not be Henry Cavill in his prime, but Erika married felonious live action Cotton Hill. 

 

I dislike Sutton for sitting there mute and looking cowed as the new and unimproved FFF went at Garcelle. I think I might tune in next season just to watch Sutton get eaten alive by these pack of pitbulls next season. Garcelle's parting gift should be a bottle of hot sauce to add flavor. Also, some Gas X because Sutton's looks to be about 89% gristle and the rest is bone and alcohol bloat. 

This was not enjoyable. Just infuriating!

 

 

[Cosmocrush]

38 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

From Ronald Richards:

Who is Ronald Richards?  Should I already know this?  And who is the statement for, the public?  Social Media?  Thank you in advance. 

[Surrealist]

I said this last week, but when Garcelle and Jennifer made the move to talk to the other ladies (who they know hate Sutton), I think something in Sutton clicked about what that meant. 

Holding friends accountable, and not blindly supporting them all the time, is one thing. But approaching your friend's enemies, and knowing those enemies really hate her, was a stupid move on their part. However noble their intentions. Not to mention, it made her look even worse, and gave the FFF much needed ammo.

But it's still a "stir the pot" move, which is what this show thrives on anymore. 

Once they got to the Reunion, I think Sutton was over it, and kind of relieved that others were on the hot seat, instead of her. I'm not saying she should play mute, but I think she's taken some notes about this season. 

I'm still of the mindset that she should quit because she doesn't need this show, and it can ruin your rep and your friendships. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[jalady]

Someone remind me: where did the Fox Force Five nickname come from?  I know who was in it, but what does the name mean?

[Natalie68]

15 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Who is Ronald Richards?  Should I already know this?  And who is the statement for, the public?  Social Media?  Thank you in advance. 

He is the attorney who was involved in following the earrings saga.  This was posted on twitter.  He has pretty much been up her ass the whole time re the case.

Ronald Neil Richards is a Beverly Hills, California based criminal defense and civil litigation attorney who has made national media appearances as a legal expert commentator.

[Mar]

2 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

In the uncut version of this episode, Kyle only remembers that Sutton showed her sustainability line. Kyle never went to Augusta.

I don’t understand the part about Augusta.

[Stats Queen]

One post on Twitter last night said like this if you are one of the 4 who thought the robbery was a setup. It was at 3,500 2 hours after the reunion.

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I must be one of the 4 Twitter folks who think the break in was a set up.

I'm one of the other ones. 🤣

[Stats Queen]

19 minutes ago, jalady said:

Someone remind me: where did the Fox Force Five nickname come from?  I know who was in it, but what does the name mean?

When they went to the Villa in France when the wildfires hit and Camille lost her home and Denise’s was badly damaged. They weren’t on the trip as a result.

[jalady]

1 minute ago, Stats Queen said:

When they went to the Villa in France when the wildfires hit and Camille lost her home and Denise’s was badly damaged. They weren’t on the trip as a result.

Did they name themselves on that trip?

[Stats Queen]

Just now, jalady said:

Did they name themselves on that trip?

I think they did. I can’t remember for sure

[jalady]

6 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

I think they did. I can’t remember for sure

Got it.  Thanks.  I had that episode on in the background recently, but wasn't really paying attention.

[Surrealist]

Also, I'm not so sure Sutton thinks Kyle's genuinely her friend. 

I know that's a narrative working its way through the fanbase: that Sutton left Garcelle out to dry, in order to curry favor with Kyle. 

I can't decide what I think is going on, but Sutton isn't stupid enough to think that Kyle likes her. I think something else is going on.

All that said I don't blame Garcelle for leaving. I would too.

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, funnygirl said:

 

And it's okay because Erika watched that moment from the discomfort of her rental home. She can yell at the wallpaper about it.  

 

Love this!!!  

I was actually wondering if the wallpapers in her rented home are the peel and stick kind that is easily removable.  Some landlords don't allow that level of decor updates, unless it is removed upon the tenant moving out.  

I'm still convinced that Erika didn't pay a penny for that update.  Martyn Laurence Bullard used this show to promote himself.  There were rumors a couple of months ago (posted somewhere here) that Erika had purchased a home.  If she did, why would she go to the personal expense of remodeling/updating a rental that she would soon be moving from?  Why not use that money to do some updates to her new home? 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

Garcelle Saved Sutton’s ass so much and her sitting there on mute like that … just made her look like shit … I mean not as shit as the fux flop 5 but girl the fans arnt gonna stand behind you NOT standing behind Garcelle .. we are a fickle fandom .. and she is gonna be eatin alive next season and I’m not gonna lie she kinda deserves it for how she just gave up on Garcelle there 

Edited April 2 by Keywestclubkid

[dmeets]

34 minutes ago, Mar said:

I don’t understand the part about Augusta.

When Kyle said the only thing Sutton's shared is her fashion show, she was having pretend amnesia since she was one of two HWs invited on a two-episode trip to Augusta revolving around Sutton working through her relationship with her mother and her father's suicide. So for Kyle to say she's given more this season than Sutton is ludicrous. If it weren't for gossip headlines, Kyle would have had no storyline at all except PK's texts and one or two vague "I can't believe our marriage has come to this" conversations with Mauricio.

One of the many shitty things about Fox Force Five was the way it was borne out of the five of them being the only ones to go on the trip because they'd already run LVP off and Denise and Camille were dealing with the potential loss of everything they had due to wildfires. "Sorry your houses burned. But the rest of us made a pact to always protect each other and go after someone else on the show so sorry bitch, you're next!"

Edited April 2 by dmeets

[Cosmocrush]

6 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I'm still of the mindset that she should quit because she doesn't need this show, and it can ruin your rep and your friendships. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have never understood why Sutton wants to be on this show so much, but clearly she does and will put up with anything to be part of it. 

I don't think any of these friendships/relationships are deep enough to be literal enemies.  I think they just like some of the women more than they like others, hey just like we do. 

 

[Surrealist]

14 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I have never understood why Sutton wants to be on this show so much, but clearly she does and will put up with anything to be part of it. 

I wonder the same about Boz, tbh.

She's seen as this Boss Lady, which it sounds like she is, but yet she's on this show. I'm guessing she's doing it to promote herself as a "life coach," which are a dime a dozen these days.

It's too bad she's still not in the corporate world because it would be interesting to watch her in that environment, but I'm guessing no corporation is going to go along with being featured on RHOBH.

I think Sutton went on to promote the fact she wanted to do a fashion line, but at this point, she doesn't need this mess anymore. The other ladies, like Kyle, Dorit, and Erika need this show (and the money).

[Cosmocrush]

12 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I wonder the same about Boz, tbh.

She's seen as this Boss Lady, which it sounds like she is, but yet she's on this show. I'm guessing she's doing it to promote herself as a "life coach," which are a dime a dozen these days.

It's too bad she's still not in the corporate world because it would be interesting to watch her in that environment, but I'm guessing no corporation is going to go along with being featured on RHOBH.

Boz has her own company now, a wig/hair line.   By all accounts she was a brilliant marketer and so this Boz marketing Boz.   There is something like that in her tagline. 

During her short appearance on The Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon asked her just that, why RHOBH  after all the good stuff on her resume.  She talked about her hair line company and being an observer of people as well as a disprupter*  of the status quo , which she noted she has always been in the corporate world just starting as a woman, and a Black woman at that. 

When Boz said she had watched the show prior to coming on it, I feel like she saw one season or maybe a few episodes from a few seasons.  Nothing like the way some of us fans almost study this mess.  It shocks me to realize I have seen every. single. hour. of this shit show withing 24 hours of it airing!

*buzzword of the decade

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[Surrealist]

4 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

When Boz said she had watched the show prior to coming on it, I feel like she saw one season or maybe a few episodes from a few seasons.  Nothing like the way some of us fans almost study this mess.  It shocks me to realize I have seen every. single. hour. of this shit show withing 24 hours of it airing!

You feel bad about that? I was the moron who spent a month bingeing every episode of every season to catch up with you all in Season 10. 😂

I blame my cousin for getting me involved in this bullshit, but it's still kind of fun to analyze this show.

Ah! Thank you for the clarification. I remember Boz saying she was here to promote herself, which is what they all do. I couldn't remember if she had a business going on as well. I know she does motivational speaking, and I wouldn't mind paying for one of her seminars. She clearly knows her shit.

I mostly side eye her alignment with Dorit and Erika because both women are involved in sketchy bullshit, and Boz isn't someone I would associate with women like them.

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, jalady said:

Did they name themselves on that trip?

Right? Adult women giving themselves a clique name is one of the dumbest things ever. Like they've never emotionally progressed beyond high school.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Right? Adult women giving themselves a clique name is one of the dumbest things ever. Like they've never emotionally progressed beyond high school.

I think it was Rinna who ran with it .. I mean she’s still running with it with a post she just did 

[Surrealist]

5 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think it was Rinna who ran with it .. I mean she’s still running with it with a post she just did 

She's so ridiculous! 

I'll bet she's steamed she's still not in the show right now.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I'm one of the other ones. 🤣

Count me in - I said I was suspicious from the first report.  

I don't want to dig up what has already been discussed over and over again, but didn't Dorit and the kids come home early from wherever they were traveling, without her telling PK?  And, that's why they were in the house when they were not supposed to be originally?  

Either way, I'm so sick of these women digging up past grievances at the reunions to justify current issues.  I mean, if they were feuding constantly from season to season, that would be one thing, but when something happened three years ago, and the women supposedly resolved the problem at that time, why bring it back up again?  It's tiresome, boring and redundant.

[Surrealist]

2 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Either way, I'm so sick of these women digging up past grievances at the reunions to justify current issues.  I mean, if they were feuding constantly from season to season, that would be one thing, but when something happened three years ago, and the women supposedly resolved the problem at that time, why bring it back up again?  It's tiresome, boring and redundant.

Erika's the absolute worst when it comes to this because she's always acting as if she can let shit go like it's nothing, but keeps grinding her ax about everything.

She thinks she's the most misunderstood, put upon person in existence. She's exhausting, and I wish she'd get canned. Is there anything she can do that would push Andy into wanting her off the show? Because I'd love to know what that is.

Edited April 2 by Surrealist

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

One post on Twitter last night said like this if you are one of the 4 who thought the robbery was a setup. It was at 3,500 2 hours after the reunion.

Even Andy doesn't seem to buy her story, and he brought up the robbers leaving Dorit's phone near the gate.

[Cosmocrush]

36 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

She thinks she's the most misunderstood, put upon person in existence. She's exhausting, and I wish she'd get canned. Is there anything she can do that would push Andy into wanting her off the show? Because I'd love to know what that is.

I doubt it.  I quit watching RHONJ a decade ago when it was revealed that Teresa and Joe were criminals.  Then they went to the clink, and then Andy really started celebrating them. 

Sadly, nothing says ratings to Andy like a HW and criminal behavior, even criminal adjacent like Erika. 

7 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Even Andy doesn't seem to buy her story, and he brought up the robbers leaving Dorit's phone near the gate.

Yeah, it's waaaay more than 4 people and Andy (or his team) is generally on top of what Bravo fans are talking about.  

[Keywestclubkid]

All of this .. you baited the community but now act like this .. it’s confusing 

[Surrealist]

25 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I doubt it.  I quit watching RHONJ a decade ago when it was revealed that Teresa and Joe were criminals.  Then they went to the clink, and then Andy really started celebrating them. 

Sadly, nothing says ratings to Andy like a HW and criminal behavior, even criminal adjacent like Erika. 

Yeah, it's waaaay more than 4 people and Andy (or his team) is generally on top of what Bravo fans are talking about.  

Fair enough. Lol. I've only watched a few eps of RHONJ. I always assumed it was a show centered around Mob wives, but I think there's already a reality show with that title. 🤣

[bravofan27]

I get Dorit not wanting to tell her younger kids about divorce. When you are a mom, you don't want your kids to think anything is wrong with their family, as they are so dependent on you and it is very scary. She wants to make sure their childhood isn't marred and they begin to worry. The worst thing for little kids is to feel like their family is insecure. So I get it.

Garcelle, IMO, was rightfully called out. Garcelle could have easily said, "If you want to spend time with Morgan, or anyone, do it!" Instead, she used the lesbian word. I would have been terribly offended and pissed. Garcelle is NOT Kyle's friend. Garcelle's son has been on previous seasons. He didn't want to be on this season. It's not hard to understand that Morgan also doesn't want to be on the show. Who knows what she went through being on the show, but obviously, it wasn't good, since she doesn't want to show up. 

Maybe I myself am a raging bitch (I don't think so), but I liked Ericka on the reunion. Sutton questioning Dorit about her mortgage, right after she says she defends woman, was akin to Garcelle's lesbian comment to Kyle. A dig disguised as a joke/concern.

Boz is probably the most honest person on the show this season. 

 

[nexxie]

I’ve always thought that newbies sidled up to Kyle because she is seen as an insider in showbiz and someone who can open doors - which may also be the reason that Kyle purposely distances herself from most of them, treating them as colleagues rather than friends. Just a thought.

[dmeets]

Ha, maybe that's why Garcelle clocked Kyle from Day 1. She doesn't need the connections.

[Surrealist]

I honestly don't give a shit about Sutton's wallet and mortgage comments. I know she's talking specifically about Dorit, and not about me or any of the viewers. 

This is supposed to be a show about rich women doing rich people things, and occasionally acting snobby and humblebraggy.

Dorit's been acting like a rich lady snob since she started the show. Same with Erika, really. 

Now their houses of cards are falling rapidly. I don't mind cast members calling that out on the show, or at the Reunion. It's fair game, right?

Edited April 2 by Surrealist

[bravofan27]

29 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I’ve always thought that newbies sidled up to Kyle because she is seen as an insider in showbiz and someone who can open doors - which may also be the reason that Kyle purposely distances herself from most of them, treating them as colleagues rather than friends. Just a thought.

Absolutely. Same with Kim and Denise.

12 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

 

This is supposed to be a show about rich women doing rich people things, and occasionally acting snobby and humblebraggy.

 

I never assumed that was the purpose of the show. Most of the women on the show aren't rich-- hence their issues with debt, because they feel pressure to be "rich." If this show is about rich women, who have real money, no one would be on it. It's more for people that want to be on TV and think they are awesome. IMO. 

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

All of this .. you baited the community but now act like this .. it’s confusing 

So let’s look at it like this.  What if Garcelle said, “BE who you want to be.  If you want to be someone who has sex with other people, have sex with other people.”  I can see where Kyle was mortified. 

I’m not sure if Garcelle meant to embarrass her on camera or not but if she had said , “DO what you want to do; if you want to hang out with Morgan, hang out with Morgan.” I don’t think Kyle would have reacted so badly, outside the fact that she was trying to respect Morgan’s wishes to stay out of the fray.

i didn’t see lesbian as a slur as much as talking about Kyle’s sex life .  
 

Many years ago when I was single I had a good girlfriend at work in another department. We went to all the company functions together .  We went to lunch together probably once a week.  We met up on Sunday afternoons at the movies and drinks after.   It was only after I left the company we found out everyone thought we were a couple!  ( we are both straight) Kinda explained why in a business  dominated by men no one had ever asked either one of us out, lol.  
All of this to say it’s possible for two women to want to hang out together without  being lesbians.  Doesn’t seem like Garcelle got that.  

 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

29 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

So let’s look at it like this.  What if Garcelle said, “BE who you want to be.  If you want to be someone who has sex with other people, have sex with other people.”  I can see where Kyle was mortified. 

I’m not sure if Garcelle meant to embarrass her on camera or not but if she had said , “DO what you want to do; if you want to hang out with Morgan, hang out with Morgan.” I don’t think Kyle would have reacted so badly, outside the fact that she was trying to respect Morgan’s wishes to stay out of the fray.

i didn’t see lesbian as a slur as much as talking about Kyle’s sex life .  
 

Many years ago when I was single I had a good girlfriend at work in another department. We went to all the company functions together .  We went to lunch together probably once a week.  We met up on Sunday afternoons at the movies and drinks after.   It was only after I left the company we found out everyone thought we were a couple!  ( we are both straight) Kinda explained why in a business  dominated by men no one had ever asked either one of us out, lol.  
All of this to say it’s possible for two women to want to hang out together without  being lesbians.  Doesn’t seem like Garcelle got that.  

 

 

Being a lesbian like being straight isn’t about the actual sex act but about who you’re attracted to

 

being gay doesn't = sex just like being straight doesn't= sex

 

 .. it would be totally different context then saying go have sex with whoever you want or just go have sex with other people .. because and I know I’m repeating this but sex and attraction are two totally separate things 

 she said be who you are if that’s a lesbian great .. literally means BE true to who you are if that’s who you are because Kyle literally teased it soooo much then suddenly **redacted** can’t even be mentioned 

Edited April 2 by Keywestclubkid

[Cosmocrush]

16 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Being a lesbian like being straight isn’t about the actual sex act but about who you’re attracted to

 

being gay doesn't = sex just like being straight doesn't= sex

 

 .. it would be totally different context then saying go have sex with whoever you want

 she said be who you are if that’s a lesbian great .. literally means BE true to who you are if that’s who you are because Kyle literally teased it soooo much then suddenly **redacted** can’t even be mentioned 

I understand that being gay doesn't equal sex, just as being straight doesn't equal sex.

And please correct me if I'm wrong but being  gay/a lesbian is about more than who someone is attracted to, it's about who someone is sexually attracted to.  

Kyle may or may not be sexually attracted to Morgan.  The video was weird but then again Kyle is a professional actor so I didn't read too much into that.  I just think hearing  Garcelle label her that way caught Kyle off guard as it was meant to do, and apparently both Kyle and I saw it as a reference to her sex life outside her crumbling marriage. 

 

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Erika's the absolute worst when it comes to this because she's always acting as if she can let shit go like it's nothing, but keeps grinding her ax about everything.

She thinks she's the most misunderstood, put upon person in existence. She's exhausting, and I wish she'd get canned. Is there anything she can do that would push Andy into wanting her off the show? Because I'd love to know what that is.

I think that Erika is in my top five most disliked housewife ever.  I've watched them all (and still watch a lot of them), and she checks off all my reasons for intense dislike.  

1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

Garcelle, IMO, was rightfully called out. Garcelle could have easily said, "If you want to spend time with Morgan, or anyone, do it!" Instead, she used the lesbian word. I would have been terribly offended and pissed. Garcelle is NOT Kyle's friend. Garcelle's son has been on previous seasons. He didn't want to be on this season. It's not hard to understand that Morgan also doesn't want to be on the show. Who knows what she went through being on the show, but obviously, it wasn't good, since she doesn't want to show up. 

 

I have to agree with you here.  Garcelle could have gotten her point across (Kyle not being honest with the audience or the other ladies) in a different way, especially since Kyle did ask Garcelle off-camera to not bring up Morgan's name on the show. 

Who knows - Kyle may have reached out privately, either by phone call, text, email or in person with all her castmates, asking the same thing.  It sounded as if Sutton was aware of Kyle's request, so that's a possibility.

I don't know - if I had a co-worker or work acquaintance that asked me privately to respect something or someone in their life by not discussing it, I would abide by their wishes.  

 

1 hour ago, dmeets said:

Ha, maybe that's why Garcelle clocked Kyle from Day 1. She doesn't need the connections.

I think at this point, Garcelle may have more significant connections outside the show than Kyle does.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

I never assumed that was the purpose of the show. Most of the women on the show aren't rich-- hence their issues with debt, because they feel pressure to be "rich." If this show is about rich women, who have real money, no one would be on it. It's more for people that want to be on TV and think they are awesome. IMO. 

I think in this specific show's current iterations (last four or five seasons or so), I'd agree that a few of the women are "pretend rich".  

Kyle and Mauricio are actually pretty wealthy, and if they divorce, Kyle will probably be very well off, Kathy Hilton and Jennifer Tilly are both extremely wealthy and Sutton is also quite wealthy by normal standards.  Garcelle is probably somewhere in the middle, with Erika and Dorit being at the bottom tier of wealth at this point.  I don't know about Boz's financial situation, but she's probably pretty well off - not as wealthy as some, but more wealthy than others.

LVP is and was pretty wealthy, as are Adrienne Maloof and Camille Grammar.  Yolanda Hadid and Joyce Giraud were/are also up there.  Former housewives who were fake rich were Taylor Armstrong, Kim Richards, Brandi Glanville, that Carlton-witch lady.  Actually, I don't think that Kim and Brandi ever claimed to be super rich nor did they really act that way.  

So, it sort of ran the gamut from Brandi and Kim all the way up to LVP, Camille and Adrienne.

But, I 100% agree that most of the most wealthy women in Beverly Hills are smart enough to stay as far away from this show as they can, they are working maintaining their wealth in actual real professions, or they are too busy doing things that are less public and personally damaging than showing their narcissism for all the viewers to see.  

Edited April 2 by njbchlover

[Keywestclubkid]

21 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I understand that being gay doesn't equal sex, just as being straight doesn't equal sex.

And please correct me if I'm wrong but being  gay/a lesbian is about more than who someone is attracted to, it's about who someone is sexually attracted to.  

Kyle may or may not be sexually attracted to Morgan.  The video was weird but then again Kyle is a professional actor so I didn't read too much into that.  I just think hearing  Garcelle label her that way caught Kyle off guard as it was meant to do, and apparently both Kyle and I saw it as a reference to her sex life outside her crumbling marriage. 

 

sexual attraction and sex ARE separate things you can be attracted and not have sex ... 

again be who you are was all that G was saying ... and there is absolutely nothing wrong if she IS a lesbian .. no one is judging her but herself .. 

 

Edited April 2 by Keywestclubkid

[Surrealist]

2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

 Yeah, it's waaaay more than 4 people and Andy (or his team) is generally on top of what Bravo fans are talking about.  

When Andy brought up the robbers returning Dorit's cell, you could almost hear The Price Is Right fail horn going off right over her head.

[Cosmocrush]

9 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

but you are exquating lesbian as automatic sex .... gays and lesbians  don't go around having sex with each other even when we ARE attracted to them ... so what you made and are making is a false equivalency  ...

I didn't think I was equating lesbians with anything more than being sexually attracted to women in any other way that being straight means being sexually attracted to men. 

I apologize for the misunderstanding.   And I kind of wish I hadn't jumped onto this train.  

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I didn't think I was equating lesbians with anything more than being sexually attracted to women in any other way that being straight means being sexually attracted to men. 

I apologize for the misunderstanding.   And I kind of wish I hadn't jumped onto this train.  

We are all good .. no train … no need to apologize at all .. 

I’m just coming from the corner of

Gays and lesbians have always been  generalized in media or by other sections of the public and to some stright people has over sexed feens .. that we just have sex indiscriminately ya know that if we are gay we are automatically having sex with each other no matter who they are… just take me now .. can’t control ourselves just like Pokémon we gotta hump them all… 

But just like everyone else we have relationships we have self control we have STANDARDS we are just as boring sometimes has everyone just as dateless has everyone else .. and just as clueless in what the hell the other person is thinking half the time … 

 

we are normal … :) 

 

 

 

 

[Surrealist]

I made the mistake of looking at Garcelle's and Jennifer's IGs.

A lot of fans were jumping onto their comments talking serious shit about what happened on the show.

There was body shaming with regard to Sutton, and people telling Jennifer that Garcelle was so boring and they were glad she's leaving, and to take Sutton with her. I saw someone comment to Jennifer that they hope Sutton is a better friend to her than she was to Garcelle. There are many, many more tasteless comments out there, if you're interested.

Obviously none of the HWs have responded back to these people, but I couldn't get over the audacity of fans thinking they have any real world knowledge about the dynamics between all these women when the cameras aren't on. 

I think a lot of this fan nonsense is what drives the content of my comments on this thread. Not because I think one HW is a perfect lady over the others (although some HWs have been legit assholes), but it's the sheer nastiness of the fanbase in general, which sounds similar to how the FFF have been talking about castmates for years.

It blows my fucking mind that there are viewers who think behaving this way in people's social media channels doesn't paint them as entirely unhinged and nasty. 

I apologize for going a bit OT, but this stuff is related to what we saw on the Reunion (and during the season in general).

Edited April 3 by Surrealist

[Cosmocrush]

That’s exactly why this forum is the only one I read, and generally skip th HWs social media unless someone posts it on the media thread.  It’s the civilized little corner of the HW world and has been since TWOP. 

[Pi237]

There’s a reason I avoid politics online and it’s people like Surrealist mentioned.  Just hateful, name-calling cowards desperate to look tough and be on the winning team at all costs.  Unfortunately, it works because it beats people down to where they stop engaging at all in order to just get away from the crazies.  Aka Garcelle leaving. I get it. And she has to protect her boys who have already been targets of the Hateration mob.

[BloggerAloud]

Boz riding and dying for Dorit is so funny, as if Dorit won't throw her to the wolves the moment she's not of use to her.

[Marley]

Ugh I'm already tired of Dorit yammering on. She just doesn't shut up. She has to blab on even to simple questions.

I don't like this like on of Garcelle.

Erika is a stupid dbag. What's so interesting about her. Another one who can shut the fuck up.

I do not like Boz. She's up Dorit & Erika's ass. Keely is a joke. Boz looks terrible in whatever her outfit is supposed to be. I don't get why ppl think she's so fabulous she's just annoying.

Dorit not telling her kids about the divorce is stupid as hell.

Dorit's robbery was totally staged & Dorit needs to realize most ppl think this.

Why can't Andy ever bring up the real shit that is happening with Dorit & Erika. All the fucking grifting & terrible shit.

Dorit shading Sutton's house next episode please shut up Dorit you are a fake who rips ppl off constantly.

Edited April 3 by Marley

[albarino]

5 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Sutton questioning Dorit about her mortgage, right after she says she defends woman, was akin to Garcelle's lesbian comment to Kyle. A dig disguised as a joke/concern.

It is funny, I didn't see it as a dig at all.  I think the comment was prefaced along the lines of women need to know what is happening financially in their households, and then asked Dorit as an example if she knew who held (signed for) the mortgage in hers.  How is that a dig?  If Dorit doesn't understand the question, and the larger point being made, she has bigger problems than looking for insults where there aren't any intended.

I also don't have any problem with Garcelle's comments regarding Kyle's friendship with Morgan.  If Kyle wants half of her life "off the table" she should be a "friend of."  All of this truth business has ME rolling my eyes.  Um, do we really know why Kyle wanted the separation?  Did she ever come out and say why?

The thing with her friendship with Morgan is that it is really strange.  I'm not talking about any lesbian relationship.  The age difference between these two friends has me scratching my head because Kyle has daughters Morgan's age.  

I equate it to me having a real friendship (traveling together, etc., not an acquaintanceship) with somebody my daughter's age with no real reason for the bonding.  For example, they aren't in a road bike group and happen to be at the same biking level, they aren't in a book club together, they aren't writing songs together.  To me they have no common interests which makes their relationship compelling.  It is curious.

[princelina]

8 hours ago, Surrealist said:

She's seen as this Boss Lady, which it sounds like she is, but yet she's on this show. I'm guessing she's doing it to promote herself as a "life coach," which are a dime a dozen these days.

If she had wanted to be a "life coach" she would have been a bad advertisement for herself with her whole boyfriend/baby storyline 😄

7 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I mostly side eye her alignment with Dorit and Erika because both women are involved in sketchy bullshit, and Boz isn't someone I would associate with women like them.

But doesn't Erika have a hair line too?😄

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Obviously none of the HWs have responded back to these people, but I couldn't get over the audacity of fans thinking they have any real world knowledge about the dynamics between all these women when the cameras aren't on. 

What I can't believe is the audacity of people to go one a stranger's page to insult and berate them, even if they did behave badly on tv.  I'm happy to gossip about them here, and if they come and look it's on them, but I could never imagine looking them up to write nasty comments on their SM pages!