paulvdb Friday at 05:23 AM Share Friday at 05:23 AM Quote With a possible escape from their nightmare, the Yellowjackets learn not everyone may be in a rush to leave. In the present, the unexpected return of an old teammate sends Shauna spiraling in ways that should probably concern everyone. Premiere date: March 28 on Paramount+ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/
Brn2bwild Friday at 05:54 AM Share Friday at 05:54 AM That whole episode made me feel so uneasy. I'm dreading seeing how Shauna, Tai, and Lottie will manage to keep the others stuck in the woods, given that they don't have the gun or crossbow. I think most of the others (including Van) are way too committed to going home to change their minds. Ambush planned? The idea that Shauna could have gone crazy on her own is interesting, but I suspect Walter or Callie is messing with her. The moment where Shauna claimed that Callie still loved her after knowing what Shauna did was a revealing one. "Now who's the liar?" I'm glad Jeff is finally accepting uncomfortable truths about his wife, but it wasn't good form to degrade her in front of the sleazy Joels in order to win points with them. So Callie killed Lottie, right? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619164
BitterApple Friday at 06:01 AM Share Friday at 06:01 AM Okay, so I absolutely loved Hillary Swank's performance as Adult Melissa, but before I get into that, What the fuck, teens? Are y'all really gonna stay in the Wilderness because Shauna says so? She doesn't have a bad feeling about Kodi. Neither does Lottie or Tai. They want to stay for their own selfish reasons. As soon as she told everyone they weren't leaving, Travis should've dropped her ass. Or the rest just go. What are three gonna do against twelve? Also, what is Kodi going to do? He has no weapons and he's outnumbered. I'm hoping the next episode is the group splitting, because if they cave, then we've jumped the shark. With regards to Shauna, I agree it's both things. Yes, she's a violent sociopath but I also think someone's messing with her. Maybe not with the breaks and the freezer, but definitely the cell phone and taking Melissa's note. Speaking of which, I was expecting to hate Adult Melissa and I ended up liking her. It's all kinds of messed up she didn't tell Alex her true identity but I loved her assessment of Shauna. She was spot on that Shauna is largely the creator of her own misery. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619167
Anela Friday at 06:43 AM Share Friday at 06:43 AM Jesus Christ, Shauna. But also: wtf Melissa? You know what she’s capable of, and you fucking taunt her? Guess who made the mistake of eating something, in the last few minutes of the show? Ugh. 5 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619177
Anela Friday at 07:03 AM Share Friday at 07:03 AM (edited) I still feel like Walter is shady, but Shauna is showing that she’s fine with murder in the present timeline. I actually felt bad for her, as Melissa was mocking her life, because I hate it when people do that. But then she eats her flesh, to prove a point. To remind her of who she was. I hope she doesn’t kill her. I think it was incredibly dumb of Melissa to send that tape to her. It seems like she was ready to blow up her own life, in some respects, because she knows who Shauna is. I don’t know if she’s lying about the phone. Could it be Mari? That just seems so extra, even for this show. Or Walter, messing with her. But how could Melissa take that chance, given her wife, and her daughter? She heard about them being at Lottie’s cult. She knew that Nat was killed. That isn’t the time to send notes, and tapes of a crime you committed twenty-five years ago. I don’t think there is ever a good time to do that. Jeff providing the comic relief, but also coming back to reality for Callie. Being a good dad. Actually talking about the situation, and listening to her. I didn’t like that he called Shauna crazy, to those guys who showed him such contempt, but I did like that he said she wasn’t dull. I did not like Shauna telling the young group, that they couldn’t leave. You don’t get to decide that they can’t get rescued. But of course, she is not healthy. I wonder if Nat will leave, anyway. If Van will tell her about the map. I wonder if Akilah is dealing with symptoms from that gas poisoning. Or if she is seeing things, if Shauna will kill the animals. Tai jumps to “we’ll have to kill them” just like Misty. Or OtherTai did. Edited Friday at 07:08 AM by Anela 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619182
BitterApple Friday at 07:22 AM Share Friday at 07:22 AM (edited) I can't figure out Melissa's angle either. Sending the tape (even if Shauna had gotten the note) serves no purpose. Shauna didn't even know Melissa was alive and living under an assumed name, so why risk her showing up on your doorstep? Why put your wife and kid in danger? I'm also really curious about this therapist. Melissa said she wasn't a doctor, so if she's just some random unlicensed life coach, does that mean she isn't bound by confidentiality rules? Because if so, yikes. Edited Friday at 07:25 AM by BitterApple 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619188
Anela Friday at 07:52 AM Share Friday at 07:52 AM (edited) 29 minutes ago, BitterApple said: I can't figure out Melissa's angle either. Sending the tape (even if Shauna had gotten the note) serves no purpose. Shauna didn't even know Melissa was alive and living under an assumed name, so why risk her showing up on your doorstep? Why put your wife and kid in danger? I'm also really curious about this therapist. Melissa said she wasn't a doctor, so if she's just some random unlicensed life coach, does that mean she isn't bound by confidentiality rules? Because if so, yikes. It sounded like she had a therapist, who was just like Lottie. Well, not *just* like her, but you know what I mean Now I’m wondering what Callie did with the note. I don’t like the thought of her doing this to her own mother, but she did try to blackmail her, after she caught her in the city, with Adam. Edited Friday at 07:53 AM by Anela 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619194
Black Knight Friday at 09:41 AM Share Friday at 09:41 AM I gasped at the start when I realized Melissa married Hannah's daughter, and then watched the fight at the end with my hand over my mouth. Holy fuck. Hillary Swank is a great adult Melissa. A couple of interesting bookends with Shauna - she gnawed on Mari's arm in the premiere, and then really does take a bite out of Melissa's arm here. And pointing a knife at Melissa while giving vent to paranoia shows she has learned nothing from when she killed Adam while confronting him in a bout of mistaken paranoia. But that's not really surprising since she showed zero remorse or regret after realizing Adam had just been a nice guy who liked her. Christina Ricci's little bit of business when Misty straightened out the pillow was so funny I rewound it immediately. I don't think Teen Shauna can get everyone to stay no matter how crazy-eyed she goes. My guess is at least some of them still tromp off with Kodi, and he turns on them and kills a couple of them. Kodi's not dumb. He knows they would kill him once they reach the rescue point, so why would he bring them there? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619205
Thalia Friday at 03:29 PM Share Friday at 03:29 PM Yeah, watching the last 30 seconds maybe wasn't the best thing to do right before bedtime. I am glad I know ahead of time that the girls won't be successful being rescued in "six days," because I have a feeling it will be really sad when whatever happens happens. It looks like Shauna/Tai/Lottie will try to stop them (to the rest of the girls, leave them, LEAVE THEM NOW). But like @Black Knight I'm also suspicious of Kodi. I can't believe he won't take any opportunity to take off and leave them behind. We know Hannah sticks around awhile, since she became "close" to Melissa and Gen. Speaking of Hannah, Shauna's reference to Melissa marrying the daughter of "the woman we killed" adds more credence to the idea that Hannah is Pit Girl. It wasn't said like, we accidentally caused Hannah's death, we killed her. The convo between adult Melissa and Shauna has made me even more eager to see what happens in at least the first months or year after the eventual rescue. Melissa was no longer "one of you." Who? In season 1, episode 1, the band had clearly broken up and it didn't seem like the women had seen each other in years. Did they remain close at first and what happened. And who is the "you" who "scared the absolute fucking shit" out of Melissa? Just Shauna, or multiple members of the group. The therapist thing could have just an explanation to Shauna's question of "why now?", but having recently watched MONSTERS, I know that even a licensed therapist can cause problems when you admit that you killed someone or lots of someones. But the bit about how the therapist wasn't like a real therapist had to be thrown in there for a reason. Jeff continues to be a rock star this season. I really wish Jackie had survived. Ella Purnell always reminds me of what a great character she was, and I think adult Jackie could have had some funny scenes with her ex-boyfriend. Really enjoying this season. It had a slow start, IMO, but since Lottie's death it seems like every episode has been zipping along with surprises. Huge contrast with another Paramount plus show, 1923, where all the characters seem to do lately is march in place. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619353
WaltersHair Friday at 03:29 PM Share Friday at 03:29 PM When they started playing the song from Clueless, I laughed. Was is it because the girls were happy to be leaving, or that they really are clueless to the dangers ahead? I think they might split at this point. Melissa said "When we got back, I was no longer one of you." Only the true acolytes will stay behind. May explain why Van and Melissa didn't keep in touch with the other girls. It really could go in any direction. They should call this the delusional season. Van's doctor probably didn't tell her that her cancer was in remission. She told Tai it was and Tai wanted to believe it. Jeff wants to believe he has a good family life. Melissa wants to believe she has a good family life. Shauna wants to believe someone is gaslighting her. I'm 50/50 on it being either Callie or no one. The unseen Akilah? 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619355
BitterApple Friday at 04:06 PM Share Friday at 04:06 PM With regards to Adult Melissa's "I was no longer one of you," one possibility that ties in with Black Knight's prediction: The groups split. Kodi kills a couple of the girls, and either escapes or gets killed in return. Some of them decide to return to camp and a few (including Nat) decide to push forward. They eventually find rescue but the bad weather sets in and those left behind are forced to spend another winter. Also, if the Kodi group takes the gun and crossbow, that explains the spiked pits. The remaining girls have no weapons so they have to come up with alternatives to hunt. Another reason I want a group split is because if they don't, then that means there's no more adult survivors. There were eight in the Pit Girl Scene and eight when the girls were being shuffled towards the plane. The revelation of Adult Melissa means she's the last one. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619381
Anela Friday at 05:02 PM Share Friday at 05:02 PM I am wondering if it’s Akilah, just because they’ve shown her to be more calculating, than previously shown. But then again, the question would still be, “why now?” 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619424
Brn2bwild Friday at 05:38 PM Share Friday at 05:38 PM 33 minutes ago, Anela said: I am wondering if it’s Akilah, just because they’ve shown her to be more calculating, than previously shown. But then again, the question would still be, “why now?” I wonder what her leaving the "breadcrums" was about, whether she was worried that they were abandoning the group and the thread was to ensure they could find their way back to the group? Or was it so the group could track them down and she could show she was still "one of them"? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619448
Black Knight Friday at 06:10 PM Share Friday at 06:10 PM 11 hours ago, Anela said: Jesus Christ, Shauna. But also: wtf Melissa? You know what she’s capable of, and you fucking taunt her? It's interesting though that Melissa's reading Shauna for filth isn't what started the physical fight. It was Melissa going for Shauna's knife that did it. I wonder in a perverse way whether, as much as Shauna hates being told the truth about herself, there's also a contradictory sense of relief because she's being seen. She doesn't have to put on a big front for once. 2 hours ago, Thalia said: I really wish Jackie had survived. Ella Purnell always reminds me of what a great character she was, and I think adult Jackie could have had some funny scenes with her ex-boyfriend. The Autostraddle recapper made a good point that Jackie would have handled the situation with the hikers more diplomatically than Shauna, though she probably couldn't have fixed all of it. But Jackie was a normie the entire time she was in the wilderness. It's what killed her (and it's why the show had to kill her off). But now there's this situation where several normies stumbled into the Yellowjackets camp and the YJs are poorly equipped to deal with this sudden coming face to face with normality after everything they've been up to. They have no normie to act as their representative and handle things. Nat is the closest and even she's a little too far gone, openly acknowledging in the hikers' hearing that they might be killed later. Jackie would have had the sense to be like, "NO, of course we're not killing anyone, that lunatic Lottie is off her meds and went rogue and the rest of us can't wait to get away from her." And making the hikers bury Edwin was all kinds of fucked up. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619477
BitterApple Friday at 07:06 PM Share Friday at 07:06 PM 1 hour ago, Brn2bwild said: I wonder what her leaving the "breadcrums" was about, whether she was worried that they were abandoning the group and the thread was to ensure they could find their way back to the group? Or was it so the group could track them down and she could show she was still "one of them"? It may have been both. I also think Akilah had misgivings about Kodi. A six day hike to the pickup spot with no supplies. Akilah and Travis have the weapons but Kodi is fitter and stronger. It's unlikely they could keep him contained over the course of a week. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619511
peachmangosteen Friday at 09:20 PM Share Friday at 09:20 PM (edited) I wasn't sure if I was gonna watch this season since after season 2 I just thought maybe I didn't care anymore but I got bored and binged it the past 2 days and let me tell you I am loving this season. It kinda bums me out it seems like it's not being that well received online. Melissa thinking she's sane after faking a suicide, assuming a new identity, and stalking then marrying/having a child with the daughter of a woman she likely helped kill and eat had me rolling tbh. Teen Melissa really grew on me this season and I liked Adult Melissa. I'm normally not a big Hilary Swank fan but I thought she did a great job of mimicking the Teen Melissa actor. Almost as good as Sophie Thatcher does mimicking Juliette Lewis. Even though Melissa is obviously still just as fucked up as the others, she has Shauna pegged and it's kind of delicious. I have never been a Van fan but Teen Van has been having some moments this season. Her first thought when finding the phone being to call her mom really got to me and then I loved in this episode when she wanted to know about Mulder and Scully. I felt seen in that moment lol. Edited Friday at 10:30 PM by peachmangosteen 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619614
AstridM Friday at 09:39 PM Share Friday at 09:39 PM 11 hours ago, Black Knight said: Christina Ricci's little bit of business when Misty straightened out the pillow was so funny I rewound it immediately. Where do you watch the show? I have the paramount/showtime app, and it doesn’t allow me to rewind or fast forward new episodes 😡. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619634
peachmangosteen Friday at 09:51 PM Share Friday at 09:51 PM Well, I just read that exit interview with Simone Kessel and that combined with what Juliette Lewis had to say has me seriously doubting this writing team has any idea what they're doing. And just when I was starting to actually think maybe they did lol. I don't care too much about that though personally. I just wanna be entertained/feel the show is compelling to watch and so far this season is delivering for me. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619643
BitterApple Friday at 10:11 PM Share Friday at 10:11 PM (edited) 34 minutes ago, AstridM said: Where do you watch the show? I have the paramount/showtime app, and it doesn’t allow me to rewind or fast forward new episodes 😡. That's odd. Paramount+ uploads the new episodes Friday at midnight. I'm on Pacific Time and can get them Thursday a little after 9:00. I'll check the app on my phone now to see if I can get it. Eta: it's showing up on mine, maybe try again? Or log out and log back in? Edited Friday at 10:14 PM by BitterApple Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619658
Anela Friday at 10:21 PM Share Friday at 10:21 PM 41 minutes ago, AstridM said: Where do you watch the show? I have the paramount/showtime app, and it doesn’t allow me to rewind or fast forward new episodes 😡. I have the app, and it shows backwards and forwards arrows, on either side of the play triangle. I usually watch on my roku, on the TV, but re-watch on my ipad. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619665
AstridM Friday at 10:26 PM Share Friday at 10:26 PM 3 minutes ago, Anela said: I have the app, and it shows backwards and forwards arrows, on either side of the play triangle. I usually watch on my roku, on the TV, but re-watch on my ipad. I watch on my iPad, and the show is available at midnight, but there are no backwards or forwards arrows. All I can do is watch or stop the show, no rewinding or fast forwarding. Seems to only happen with new releases. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619666
badhaggis Saturday at 12:07 AM Share Saturday at 12:07 AM Holy cow Shauna! She is spinning out in spectacular fashion. I really hope she doesn't hurt Jeff. He is such a sweet character. Rather surprisingly for this show. They have done a great job of ramping up the tension week by week. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619748
Thalia Saturday at 01:04 AM Share Saturday at 01:04 AM (edited) 22 hours ago, badhaggis said: I really hope she doesn't hurt Jeff. He is such a sweet character. Rather surprisingly for this show. I find Jeff one of the most surprising characters in the show, given how he was introduced. A jock who was having sex with his girlfriend's BFF. Of course, it is clear now that Shauna holds, and has always held, all the power in this relationship and that she almost certainly initiated their liaison, even if she was angry with him in health class for not being a better boyfriend to Jackie. Adult Jeff is still a slightly dim ex-jock, but also sweet, protective of his family, in love with his wife, and seemingly not all that sorry that he's tied to a Crazy Woman. Another thing I want to see when the Yellowjackets make it home is why they got married. I have this vision of Shauna just announcing it at one point and telling Jeff what time to get to the church and that he damn well better be wearing a f****** tux. And I suspect the Bear Meat Carbonara was a hit at the reception. Edited Saturday at 10:57 PM by Thalia 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8619958
SeanC Saturday at 03:23 AM Share Saturday at 03:23 AM The actress playing Young Melissa must be thrilled she now has guaranteed employment for the rest of the show. 3 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620106
ruby24 Saturday at 05:31 AM Share Saturday at 05:31 AM In the past, where are they on the timeline for when they got rescued? I thought they spent a year and a half in the wilderness, right? It was spring when they crashed and right now it's the following spring? So six more months to go? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620154
BitterApple Saturday at 06:33 AM Share Saturday at 06:33 AM It's late autumn, so they have around 2 months left. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620161
Chaos Theory Saturday at 02:07 PM Share Saturday at 02:07 PM (edited) I keep thinking back that there was a point in the show where no one liked Callie and thought Jeff was a pleasant bore. Now they are two of the most interesting characters of the current timeline. Shauna is spinning completely out of control in both timelines which says something about why she went entirely Stepford Wiife when they got rescued. I always called her passive aggressive and that might be more right than I realized. She has two modes. Passive and aggressive and right now she is being very aggressive in both timelines. Edited Saturday at 05:06 PM by Chaos Theory 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620242
overtherainbow Saturday at 03:46 PM Share Saturday at 03:46 PM Shauna went from being a bored housewife plagued by the trauma of the crash to now that we know a whole lot more of what went down, an absolute psychopath and Misty is the sanest one. Predictions: Nat, Travis, Mari, Melissa, the three other side characters who we barely hear from, and Van will look for rescue. Nat and Travis have the gun and bow. Shauna, Lottie, and Taissa group have nothing on them. I do think Kodi will try something, kill off a handful of them, maybe get killed in the scuffle, and they will realize they're really truly lost with no guide to get back. Meanwhile without the whisper of a remaining voice of reason Nat was, they will slip further into their psychoses and build a bunch of traps and hunt down the remaining girls. I too have a feeling Hannah will be pit girl, she'll break off from the group, the others in their desperation to find her will stumble back on the Shauna camp and realize they basically didn't really get anywhere. So the plane crashed May 1996, they've spent over a year in the wilderness by now and it's just turning fall so September 1997. They get rescued in January 1998, so they have a few months left yet. Season 4 will focus on the winter/rescue, and the ramifications of dealing with what they did when they get back. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620296
Thalia Saturday at 04:24 PM Share Saturday at 04:24 PM I keep seeing statements, granted by people who don't like season 3, that the show may not be renewed. I really hope that is sour grapes. Not sure we need five full seasons but this is a story that deserves to be wrapped up with the rescue and the aftermath, plus whatever endgame they have planned for the present day storyline. That can't be done in two more episodes. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620311
BitterApple Saturday at 04:58 PM Share Saturday at 04:58 PM Based on the painfully slow burn of S3, it definitely feels like the showrunners are shooting for 5, but I think the Adult timeline is too thin. Once they resolve the Melissa issue, then what? There's really nowhere left for it to go, unless Shauna just starts killing everyone out of paranoia. My guess is they're hoping to use S4 to cover the last couple months in the Wilderness and dedicate S5 to post rescue, but I'm not sure we'll get there. I think they need to do an extended season and wrap things up in 4. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620340
Black Knight Saturday at 06:25 PM Share Saturday at 06:25 PM 20 hours ago, AstridM said: Where do you watch the show? I have the paramount/showtime app, and it doesn’t allow me to rewind or fast forward new episodes 😡. My Paramount+/Showtime subscription is through Hulu as an add-on, so I watch all episodes on the Hulu app. It's a pretty functional app that rarely glitches unlike some of the others (like dreadful Max). The one thing that drives me up the wall with the Hulu app is that when you pause, the screen darkens. So pausing in order to read something on the screen like a text message or letter is pointless. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620382
Brn2bwild Saturday at 07:37 PM Share Saturday at 07:37 PM 3 hours ago, overtherainbow said: Predictions: Nat, Travis, Mari, Melissa, the three other side characters who we barely hear from, and Van will look for rescue. Nat and Travis have the gun and bow. Shauna, Lottie, and Taissa group have nothing on them. I do think Kodi will try something, kill off a handful of them, maybe get killed in the scuffle, and they will realize they're really truly lost with no guide to get back. I think you're spot on, except that the shots from the pilot show one person who appeared to be Van, so maybe Van stays behind to be with Taissa, or the group finds its way back to camp and is punished? 2 hours ago, BitterApple said: Based on the painfully slow burn of S3, it definitely feels like the showrunners are shooting for 5, but I think the Adult timeline is too thin. Once they resolve the Melissa issue, then what? There's really nowhere left for it to go, unless Shauna just starts killing everyone out of paranoia. I suspect a lot of the adult timeline will shift to focusing on Callie, what her role was not only in Lottie's death (if any), but what significance she might hold to "the Wilderness." I'm betting that as with similar shows, the adults will have to go back to the woods to finally put things to rest. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620425
peachmangosteen Saturday at 09:18 PM Share Saturday at 09:18 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, overtherainbow said: Shauna, Lottie, and Taissa group have nothing on them. They do have an axe. Taissa is holding it when she says they should stay. I presume it's the one Lottie brained that frog guy with. 4 hours ago, Thalia said: I keep seeing statements, granted by people who don't like season 3, that the show may not be renewed. I really hope that is sour grapes. Not sure we need five full seasons but this is a story that deserves to be wrapped up with the rescue and the aftermath, plus whatever endgame they have planned for the present day storyline. That can't be done in two more episodes. I would be very surprised if Showtime just abruptly cancelled it. I assume they'd at least give them another season to wrap it up. But also, sometimes it's easy to think the online response is the end all be all but it's really not. I just googled the ratings and Deadline has an article that the streaming views for this season are actually up 39% over season 2. I imagine the show does quite well for Paramount+ so I could see them giving the writers the 5 seasons they want. Although, even though personally I think this season is quite strong, I still think 5 seasons is too much. They've struggled to fill the episodes in both season 2 and 3. So I'd like to see them retool and just finish it out with season 4. Edited Saturday at 09:19 PM by peachmangosteen 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620494
Chaos Theory Saturday at 10:02 PM Share Saturday at 10:02 PM (edited) I don’t get why people are outright wishing the show be cancelled. If you don’t like it stop watching. Hate watching tv never made any sense to me. Besides I think the season is really good in both timelines. I am really enjoying the current timeline and watching everyone’s lives self destruct. i don’t think Van is going to die. My guess is that Tai is going to kill her wife (ex-wife) as a sacrifice and Van miraculously get better. The doctors will blather on about sudden remission but Tai will believe sacrificing the woman she never loved for the woman she always loved actually worked. what I actually find the most interesting is that Misty has changed the least. She is fundamentally the same person, for better and worse,in both timelines. She is capable of great evil but it doesn’t set her off like it does the others. But Misty is also capable of going to great lengths to try and help someone she cares about in both timelines. Misty is kinda on a reverse trajectory that Shauna is on. Edited Sunday at 12:22 AM by Chaos Theory 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620531
Thalia Saturday at 10:02 PM Share Saturday at 10:02 PM I just remembered my favorite line from the episode, well following the reference about Mulder and Scully. Shauna: "It is less of a cult and more of an intentional community." I just loved Lynskey's delivery. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620532
peachmangosteen Saturday at 10:10 PM Share Saturday at 10:10 PM I loved both of those and 'freaky little four-eyed mushroom.' 3 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620539
AstridM Saturday at 10:31 PM Share Saturday at 10:31 PM 2 hours ago, Brn2bwild said: I think you're spot on, except that the shots from the pilot show one person who appeared to be Van, so maybe Van stays behind to be with Taissa, or the group finds its way back to camp and is punished? I suspect a lot of the adult timeline will shift to focusing on Callie, what her role was not only in Lottie's death (if any), but what significance she might hold to "the Wilderness." I'm betting that as with similar shows, the adults will have to go back to the woods to finally put things to rest. God, I hope not. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620561
Colorado David Sunday at 07:49 PM Share Sunday at 07:49 PM i gotta wonder if they are getting out by plane, and if so who is gonna pilot said plane? is the pilot just waiting for them 6 days away, chilling out? or is it a sat phone type situation? and i wonder what melissa's note said. hmmmmm 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8620988
sistermagpie Yest. at 01:33 AM Share Yest. at 01:33 AM (edited) On 3/28/2025 at 2:01 AM, BitterApple said: What the fuck, teens? Are y'all really gonna stay in the Wilderness because Shauna says so? She doesn't have a bad feeling about Kodi. Neither does Lottie or Tai. They want to stay for their own selfish reasons. Oh, I disagree. Yes, the three of them are the ones we can most obviously see as preferring the wilderness, but to me it felt like it was the opposite, that their reasons for wanting to stay were the misdirect and the real issue is that something feels wrong. Plus, that gives a little more of a tip to the intuitive/supernatural side when we've been getting rational explanations. Akilah basically also got a "something's not right" vibe with her vision. Remember, whatever Travis is saying here about making stuff up, he seems to have believed something as an adult. On 3/28/2025 at 3:03 AM, Anela said: I still feel like Walter is shady, but Shauna is showing that she’s fine with murder in the present timeline. I actually felt bad for her, as Melissa was mocking her life, because I hate it when people do that. But then she eats her flesh, to prove a point. To remind her of who she was. I hope she doesn’t kill her. I think it was incredibly dumb of Melissa to send that tape to her. It seems like she was ready to blow up her own life, in some respects, because she knows who Shauna is. I don’t know if she’s lying about the phone. Could it be Mari? That just seems so extra, even for this show. Or Walter, messing with her. But how could Melissa take that chance, given her wife, and her daughter? She heard about them being at Lottie’s cult. She knew that Nat was killed. That isn’t the time to send notes, and tapes of a crime you committed twenty-five years ago. I don’t think there is ever a good time to do that. Yeah, I think Melissa's hardly one to talk about wanting to blow up her life when she decided to send that tape to Shauna. She's absolutely right about everything she was saying about Shauna, but she has the advantage of surprise here. She's living in an even flimsier house of cards than Shauna is. I'm fine with her getting knocked down a peg or two as well. Shauna makes her look sane by comparison, but come on. Melissa married the daughter of a woman she had hand in killing and, unlike Shauna, her perfect family doesn't know who she really is. The woman's still wearing her backwards baseball cap. She hasn't moved on. Besides Misty, Shauna might be the one who's closest to integrated! I agree with whoever said she's almost relieved to be "seen" as clearly as Melissa saw her here. (Has Melissa worked out why she was so attracted to Shauna at her most violent back when they were teens?) On 3/28/2025 at 3:03 AM, Anela said: I wonder if Akilah is dealing with symptoms from that gas poisoning. Or if she is seeing things, if Shauna will kill the animals. Seems like that would go against Shauna's wishes to stay, wouldn't it? On 3/28/2025 at 11:29 AM, Thalia said: The convo between adult Melissa and Shauna has made me even more eager to see what happens in at least the first months or year after the eventual rescue. Melissa was no longer "one of you." Who? In season 1, episode 1, the band had clearly broken up and it didn't seem like the women had seen each other in years. Did they remain close at first and what happened. And who is the "you" who "scared the absolute fucking shit" out of Melissa? Just Shauna, or multiple members of the group. I assumed she meant that the other girls were all Varsity and friends. They were closer when they first got back since they were all at Shauna's wedding too. On 3/28/2025 at 11:29 AM, Thalia said: Jeff continues to be a rock star this season. I really wish Jackie had survived. Ella Purnell always reminds me of what a great character she was, and I think adult Jackie could have had some funny scenes with her ex-boyfriend. On 3/28/2025 at 2:10 PM, Black Knight said: The Autostraddle recapper made a good point that Jackie would have handled the situation with the hikers more diplomatically than Shauna, though she probably couldn't have fixed all of it. But Jackie was a normie the entire time she was in the wilderness. It's what killed her (and it's why the show had to kill her off). Yeah, that's the thing, whenever anybody says anything about how Jackie would have done anything is that Jackie's literally defined by not being able to do those things. But I loved Hannah asking if Melissa was the captain with Shauna standing right there. As much as Shauna creates her own problems, one of the ways she creates problems is by not accepting being the second place person she was born to be. On 3/28/2025 at 9:04 PM, Thalia said: I find Jeff one of the most surprising characters in the show, given how he was introduced. A jock who was having sex with his girlfriend's BFF. Of course, it is clear now that Shauna holds, and has always held, all the power in this relationship and that she almost certainly initiated their liaison, even if she was angry with him in health class for not being a better boyfriend to Jackie. Adult Jeff is still a slightly dim ex-jock, but also sweet, protective of his family, in love with his wife, and seemingly not all that sorry that he's tied to a Crazy Woman. I think sometimes we don't appreciate how much Jeff and Shauna are alike. They both have some kind of longing for wildness and chaos. They both believed Jackie was slumming with them, that everyone saw her as the special one and them as the ordinary nobodys that she'd move beyond. They both chose an affair behind her back. And as we see in this ep, Jeff is kind of galvinized by his crazy wife who keeps his life from being ordinary. He's a better businessman when she's being crazy nearby. Edited Yest. at 01:36 AM by sistermagpie 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8621459
Anela Yest. at 01:49 AM Share Yest. at 01:49 AM I thought she might kill the animals out of spite. I can't see why the animals would all be dying, unless someone killed them in some way. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8621509
tennisgurl 15 hours ago Share 15 hours ago Oh yeah Melissa, your absolutely over everything that happened in the woods, that's why you married the daughter of the woman you killed and still wear the exact same freaking baseball cap. Someone on Reddit compared Melissa and her hat to Perry the Platypus, and now I cant unsee it. "A random survivor?" *Puts on pink hat* "Melissa the survivor?!" I felt like the show was starting to spin its wheels last season, especially in the current time, but its really picking up steam again. I have no idea how Shauna/Lottie/Tai managed to get everyone to stay or who is really behind everything with Shauna or what happened to Lottie, but I am very interested in finding out. Shauna has gone fully off the rails in both the flashbacks and current day, I about gagged when she tore into Melissa's arm, good god. If only Akilah didn't leave those rocks for the others to find. She really felt bad about leaving the others behind even if she and Travis were going to come back for them, but she probably never imagined that any of the girls would want to stay, let alone that they might stop their escape altogether. The gas fumes are really messing with her too, my worry is that she overdoses in the cave trying to figure some new way out. It was a little funny but also a little scary when Travis and Akilah were trying to come up with a story on the spot about what they were up to that was mostly correct all while Shauna is glaring at them like she'll eat their eyes if she doesn't like what she hears. The teens were all so excited to go, imagining every day luxuries like a toilet and a slurpy, its painful knowing that they aren't escaping any time soon, and many of them wont escape at all. Callie looked absolutely thrilled when Jeff gave the Joel's the hard sell and called Shauna crazy and exciting. Jeff is just doing his best, he likes the drama and craziness of Shauna, but this is all getting to be a bit much, especially because Shauna is clearly not telling them the truth. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152653-s03e08-a-normal-boring-life/#findComment-8622127
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