S01.E11: 5:00 P.M.

[Artsda]

As someone who has never had a baby that was most I ever saw and on tv. Lol

I agree Santos is trouble. She's too cocky. She's going to ruin lives and kill people. 

The shooter I bet is the kid with the manifest. 

[Notabug]

12 hours ago, marybennet said:

Could be wrong, but I thought it was because Langdon had taken them from/not given them to that guy. 

Yes, the pills were Librium, a medication used to treat the symptoms of alcohol withdrawal.

[snarts]

I'm confused by the Langdon storyline. He started telling Robby about pain from a back injury but the only drugs Robby found in his locker were the alcoholic's librium pills.

I realize Librium is a benzo which can indirectly help with pain but I would've expected an opiate. What's really confusing me is that Santos went to Robby about missing/tampered vials of an injectable drug. Was that also a benzo?

Is the real story that Langdon had an addition to opiates after the injury & is now trying to wean himself off without getting treatment by using librium/other benzos?

It also doesn't make much sense why he keeps calling Robby during the shift. He knows Robby is short handed & likely busy. I really hope he doesn't come into the ER on a stretcher after a suicide event (like Hathaway or Gant on ER).

[MamaMax]

IMO Santos' behavior isnt quite as calculated as some people are speculating here. I think she cant help herself. Ever watch Survivior? theres always at least one super cocky, overconfident person who considers themself a natural leader and can not seem to control their overbearing, bossy, know it all ways even when it's clear that they are pissing off everyone else. Thats who she reminds me of.

[TeeVeeWatcher]

I think there's more to the Langdon story and he will somehow be (mostly) exonerated. He insisted he wasn't high - that comment didn't happen in a vacuum.

Plus we had two different deliberate scenes with the med box - one where Santos learned how it worked, but another (I don't remember what episode, but after the first one) where another nurse gets meds, I just don't think the second was a throwaway scene. 

[debraran]

7 hours ago, snarts said:

I'm confused by the Langdon storyline. He started telling Robby about pain from a back injury but the only drugs Robby found in his locker were the alcoholic's librium pills.

I realize Librium is a benzo which can indirectly help with pain but I would've expected an opiate. What's really confusing me is that Santos went to Robby about missing/tampered vials of an injectable drug. Was that also a benzo?

Is the real story that Langdon had an addition to opiates after the injury & is now trying to wean himself off without getting treatment by using librium/other benzos?

It also doesn't make much sense why he keeps calling Robby during the shift. He knows Robby is short handed & likely busy. I really hope he doesn't come into the ER on a stretcher after a suicide event (like Hathaway or Gant on ER).

An interview with Noah that has been circulating says he will see Langdon again and it wont be as emotional, made it seem like he'd be angry. Time will tell. Maybe because of lawsuit, he tells interviewers not to bring up ER (although some do as past work) but I find it odd no one says "you played a doctor hooked on drugs....will your student get any help?"  Patrick is coy, says he wants to be back but that's it.

[debraran]

So glad to hear about the time jump and that would help Patrick Bell's character have time to get well.

https://www.tvinsider.com/1181300/the-pitt-season-1-finale-ending-abbott-trauma-robby-leaving/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJDpftleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWyyKAqf1MdjaPsu1xZ-KKph28LoK6chMI-b4dbaYuHtUkLdYe8BChyVvg_aem_VLxvjWhPYSXJdfGXC0qCiA

[maddie965]

Going forward, I really hope they abandon the 24 format. It's too forced and it takes me out of the story. Plus we can't have character development that way. 

The only reason for them to use the real time element is to avoid a lawsuit from the ER people, I think. Maybe they won't need it anymore for Season 2. I hope so.

[Notabug]

I think that the fact that the show is only going to take place in the ER and we won't see the characters outside of that setting is enough to differentiate it from the old ER which relied heavily on telling us about the characters' personal lives outside of work.  I also think, now that the show's a hit, TPTB will end up reaching a settlement with Crichton's widow and the lawsuit will be dismissed.

I also think the hour by hour format is going to prove to be too limiting, especially when it comes to character development.  Sort of like the live episode on the original ER.  It was fine as a one time gimmick, but doesn't really serve the show as an ongoing process.  Also, the season is 15 episodes while an ER shift is 12 hours.  It's obvious at this point that they will bring in a mass casualty event that will require everyone to work beyond their regular shift to handle the emergency; but I can't see that happening every season.

Edited March 16 by Notabug

[Notabug]

On 3/14/2025 at 11:25 AM, Empress1 said:

I kept thinking “stop sending people home! You need people! You can’t do it all!”

In real life, there would be doctors 'on call' to come in if someone had to leave or the ER was swamped more than usual.  It would probably be one or two of the residents scheduled for the next shift who would be called to come in early as, by this point, there are less than 2 hours left in the shift anyway.  Where I work, we refer to it as being 'doc on deck'.

[circumvent]

47 minutes ago, Notabug said:

I also think the hour by hour format is going to prove to be too limiting, especially when it comes to character development. 

I like the format because I don't really need to see character development in depth. I prefer to get glimpses in their lives but with the focus on the events inside the ER. It is what differentiates it from other shows. Like Grey's, which I could never get into, they are surgeons that are everywhere all the time doing all things. Or The Good Doctor, which had the most complicated surgeries with two doctors and one nurse. Or even ER, which I like more than I don't, with too much personal drama. 

The way it is, the show can primarily focus on the system and its many failures, and the personal stuff can be just a footnote. Personally, I prefer the way it is - as long as we don't have to see ex-husband plus girlfriend again

[MartyQui]

I don’t understand why Langdon would steal the lithium…it’s not typically a drug of abuse?

[iMonrey]

42 minutes ago, circumvent said:

I like the format because I don't really need to see character development in depth. I prefer to get glimpses in their lives but with the focus on the events inside the ER. It is what differentiates it from other shows. Like Grey's, which I could never get into, they are surgeons that are everywhere all the time doing all things. Or The Good Doctor, which had the most complicated surgeries with two doctors and one nurse. Or even ER, which I like more than I don't, with too much personal drama. 

I agree with this. I'm not interested in another medical soap opera. It's what I like about this show and I don't want them to change it. As I posted upthread, I was annoyed with the scene between McKay and her ex's girlfriend because it veered away from the medical drama without even filling us in on the reason for the ankle bracelet. Less of that, please.

[TVForever]

On 3/14/2025 at 1:09 AM, Irlandesa said:

I'm glad they didn't kill the baby or the woman who delivered the baby. 

Same here. I kept flashing back to the early ER episode when mother and baby were lost. The Oldheads among us know what I’m talking about.😢

[Irlandesa]

2 hours ago, maddie965 said:

Going forward, I really hope they abandon the 24 format. It's too forced and it takes me out of the story. Plus we can't have character development that way.

I like it.  I also think we've had a lot of character development in the season.  Having mini time jumps will allow us to learn about these characters at different times.

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

Also, the season is 15 episodes while an ER shift is 12 hours. 

 

If they could do it again, I think this is the one thing they'd change.  ER shifts aren't always 12 hours shifts.  I have an ER doc friend whose shift is normally 8 hours (a bit longer with documentation).  If they did 8 hour shifts, I bet they could convince MAX to give them 16 episodes and have each season be a 2-shift experience.  12 hours is awkward.

5 minutes ago, TVForever said:

Same here. I kept flashing back to the early ER episode when mother and baby were lost. The Oldheads among us know what I’m talking about.😢

I saw people joking elsewhere the Love's Labor Lost traumatized a generation of TV watchers.

[BC4ME]

3 hours ago, MartyQui said:

I don’t understand why Langdon would steal the lithium…it’s not typically a drug of abuse?

It was librium, which is a benzo. All the drugs he was stealing were benzos in some form or another.

[debraran]

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I agree with this. I'm not interested in another medical soap opera. It's what I like about this show and I don't want them to change it. As I posted upthread, I was annoyed with the scene between McKay and her ex's girlfriend because it veered away from the medical drama without even filling us in on the reason for the ankle bracelet. Less of that, please.

Yes for me, that scene and silly tee shirt (threatening again?) and when Santos yells at a man who can't speak or move for 5 minutes was more Chicago Hope but I forgave it since it is 99% not that.

6 hours ago, Notabug said:

I think that the fact that the show is only going to take place in the ER and we won't see the characters outside of that setting is enough to differentiate it from the old ER which relied heavily on telling us about the characters' personal lives outside of work.  I also think, now that the show's a hit, TPTB will end up reaching a settlement with Crichton's widow and the lawsuit will be dismissed.

I also think the hour by hour format is going to prove to be too limiting, especially when it comes to character development.  Sort of like the live episode on the original ER.  It was fine as a one time gimmick, but doesn't really serve the show as an ongoing process.  Also, the season is 15 episodes while an ER shift is 12 hours.  It's obvious at this point that they will bring in a mass casualty event that will require everyone to work beyond their regular shift to handle the emergency; but I can't see that happening every season.

I think Noah originally wanted it different but had to change it because of the law suit.

Edited March 16 by debraran

[shelley1234]

7 hours ago, maddie965 said:

Going forward, I really hope they abandon the 24 format. It's too forced and it takes me out of the story. Plus we can't have character development that way. 

The only reason for them to use the real time element is to avoid a lawsuit from the ER people, I think. Maybe they won't need it anymore for Season 2. I hope so.

I am pretty sure I read that season 2 will also have the hour by hour format.   

I love it.   I think it speaks volumes that there is no down time or boring hours in the life of the ER.   It is jumping from one chaos to another.   I have seen a million different medical shows and this really sets it apart for me.  

[Sarah 103]

On 3/15/2025 at 8:29 AM, Kareny said:

I've been keeping an eye on this, and I think the breakdown is something like:

Emergency Medicine: Langdon, Collins, Mohan, McKay (all based in the ED)

Surgery: Garcia (periodically consulting in the ED)

Prelim or transitional (intern year, specialty not determined, probably based in an Internal Medicine program, still trying to match into a categorical spot): Santos (currently rotating in the ED)

Internal Medicine: King (currently rotating in the ED)

Thank you! This is incredibly helpful. Mel King being internal medicine makes infinitely more sense in terms of her speciality and is a better match for who she is. I understand why she would be doing a rotation in the ED.

[debraran]

1 hour ago, shelley1234 said:

I am pretty sure I read that season 2 will also have the hour by hour format.   

I love it.   I think it speaks volumes that there is no down time or boring hours in the life of the ER.   It is jumping from one chaos to another.   I have seen a million different medical shows and this really sets it apart for me.  

yes, but I love they will have time jump, day by day is just too slow. Noah said the last episode he finally goes home and some patients stories wont be resolved.

That makes sense since its just a day or two.

And looking ahead to Season 2, there will be a time jump. “We would need to have some distance for some of the stories we want to tell. If it’s Langdon’s [Patrick Ball] first day back after being in rehab, that’s one thing we’ve been talking about, so we would need to be at least a month later,” exec producer R. Scott Gemmill explains. “That gives us time to have things happen in their lives as well that we can then reveal to the audience, and that’s kind of fun because the audience isn’t ahead of the story where they sort of have to catch up with these characters as they reveal little things throughout the day. That’s what it really is, especially for the young ones who this is their first day. You don’t get to know someone very well over the course of 12 hours, but you get enough to get an idea of who they are.”

[satrunrose]

On a shallow note, in the midst of all the gore, did anyone else's ovaries melt at the sight of hot, emotional, shirtless guy holding his new baby? An equal measure of awwww! and dang! that I appreciated. 

Edited March 23 by satrunrose

[Carbon60]

I’m engrossed in this show. Its narrative intensity and complex characters are just outstanding.  I’m also spinning theories like crazy.
 

David being the Pittfest shooter would tie a neat a  bow on  the plot, because he appears to be Chekov’s incel. In one way i hope he isn’t but will be involved in some other tragedy, maybe just his own, I.e. suicide. That could make the shooter a rando, maybe?

Langdon will show up, right? Offering to work the horrific emergency as atonement and hoping to regain Robbie’s trust?