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S07.E20: Tell All, Part 1

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TwirlyGirly

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We catch up with the couples of Before the 90 Days and learn where their relationships stand. It's one shocking moment after the next; as we find out who is broken up, who is back together and whose ex reached out with a shocking revelation.


➡️Air date: 1/12/2025

 

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Season 7 Couples: Names and Locations

(Can't remember who's who? See the topic for S07.E01: Great Expectations for photos of each couple)

Tigerlily, (Texas) & Adnan, (Jordan) 

Rayne, (New Mexico) & Chidi, (Nigeria) 

Loren, (Nevada) & Faith, (Philippines)

Niles, (Alabama) & Matilda, (Ghana) 

Joe, (Florida) & Magda, (Poland) 

Brian, (Illinois) & Ingrid, (Brazil) 

Veah, (Florida) & Sunny (South Africa)

Vanja, (Florida) & Božo, (Croatia)

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Gobi

Gobi

Tigersilly and Adenoid - still together until Tigersilly gets her post-nup.

Rayne and Chidi - couldn’t be here, we wish them all the best (and they’re broken up).

Loren and Faith - broken up. Loren wants to know if Faith’s mother is still single.

Niles and Matilda - still waltzing together, albeit on separate continents .

Joe and Magneto - broken up but Joe is hoping for friends with benefits with her (including anal).

Bwian and Ingrid - broken up. She put a hit out on him.

Veal and Sunny side up - broken up. Veal is living happily with her parasite.

Ganja and Bozo - broken up, Bozo reached out to tell her that he’s gay.

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magemaud

magemaud

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3 hours ago, 1011101010001 said:

Gall stones make you lose 50 pounds?

Maybe I could use a couple. They sound like magic stones 

It opens with Loren trying to have a heart to heart talk with NY pigeons. They totally ignored him.
My guess is that it was filmed in September because Tiger Lily got pregnant at Thanksgiving and now the baby is six weeks old. 

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AR Traveler

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I'm getting major "Not Without My Daughter" vibes from Adnan; he will take his son back to Jordan and simply disappear behind the border.  I've no idea of Jordan's laws but Iran was a hellhole to get out of in that book.  Tiger has bleached her brain cells.  OTOH, I don't know if Adnan is that devious or plotting.  He doesn't even seem that bright.  In that regard, they're a perfect couple.

Vanja, my goodness.  In my 20's I had plenty of times where I went on a couple of dates with someone and it just didn't "click" for whatever reasons.  These weren't bad guys like Loren or Brian; just not enough "chemistry" or  compatibility.  No biggie, and nothing physical even happened.  She's twenty years older than I was and acting like a bunny boiler; how dare they reject her?  If she put all that energy she invests in Bozo and Meathead and  put it into her own life, she would be so much better off.  But, that takes work, honesty, and willingness to face your faults, so no go.

Niles isn't perfect, and Matilda had her eyes on the prize all season, but I have to say they're my cute couple winner for this round-call it Anna and the Beekeeper award?  Whatever the heck his name was.

I contrast them with the Big Ed awards to Loren and Brian.  They can stay off my screen forevermore.  Rayne made Angela look like a churchmouse.

There aren't a lot of relatively "normal" couples anymore.  They're mostly of one extreme or another: crazy, bad guy (or girl), or "How do they get through the day?" dim.  I don't know what's coming next, but I hope it holds more interest.

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1011101010001

1011101010001

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I never bought that Adnan was 22/23 but when he was talking to Bozo’s screen he had a huge bald spot and I have never seen anyone that young have one like that.  Late 20s yes but not early.  

Also Cruz was doing Tiger Lily’s hair and Adnan didn’t object so I guess that storyline is over.  And where was Cruz’s “wife”?

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Pepper Mostly

Pepper Mostly

10 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

I'm getting major "Not Without My Daughter" vibes from Adnan; he will take his son back to Jordan and simply disappear behind the border.  I've no idea of Jordan's laws but Iran was a hellhole to get out of in that book.  Tiger has bleached her brain cells.  OTOH, I don't know if Adnan is that devious or plotting.  He doesn't even seem that bright.  In that regard, they're a perfect couple.

Vanja, my goodness.  In my 20's I had plenty of times where I went on a couple of dates with someone and it just didn't "click" for whatever reasons.  These weren't bad guys like Loren or Brian; just not enough "chemistry" or  compatibility.  No biggie, and nothing physical even happened.  She's twenty years older than I was and acting like a bunny boiler; how dare they reject her?  If she put all that energy she invests in Bozo and Meathead and  put it into her own life, she would be so much better off.  But, that takes work, honesty, and willingness to face your faults, so no go.

Niles isn't perfect, and Matilda had her eyes on the prize all season, but I have to say they're my cute couple winner for this round-call it Anna and the Beekeeper award?  Whatever the heck his name was.

I contrast them with the Big Ed awards to Loren and Brian.  They can stay off my screen forevermore.  Rayne made Angela look like a churchmouse.

There aren't a lot of relatively "normal" couples anymore.  They're mostly of one extreme or another: crazy, bad guy (or girl), or "How do they get through the day?" dim.  I don't know what's coming next, but I hope it holds more interest.

@AR Traveler I have been saying for weeks now that Adnan will spirit that baby back to Jordan and tell Tigerlily that if she doesn't knuckle under and give him and his sleazebag brother access to her millions he will divorce her and sue for full custody. He is not to be trusted. 

A friend of mine who's fiftyish was recently telling the tale of her ex calling her and yelling at her about something and she just hung up and blocked. "You are my EX boyfriend and I never have to listen to one word out of your mouth ever again". Hilarious. Why does Bozo have to "respect" Vanja and listen to a bunch of strangers lay into him? For what? Bozo's kind of a jerk but he doesn't exist to provide a punching bag for a bunch of crazy people. Vanja reminds me of happity ass Patrick, who was having a fun and flirty online friendship with Paris Miriam, then decided she was the love of his life and flew to Paris, remember him? Miriam was, well, taken aback but handled it like a grownup. Patrick, on the other hand, acted like an ass. 

I'm rooting for Niles and Matilda. They are of an age and have similar goals. They seem to be devoted to one another. Matilda doesn't nag or whine.  She stood up for herself when Brian tried to insult her. She seems like a smart and focused young woman. Like Thailand Annie. She'll get here, work three jobs as soon as she is able, squirrel away every penny, and she and Niles will have a pleasant life. 

Brian is so beneath contempt he is headed for the center of the earth. What a fucking tool bag. After he hurls various hateful and demeaning accusations and slurs at Ingrid, Vanja will be all cooing and heart eyes. "How could she?" Brian will not be able to believe his luck. 

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Shrek

Shrek

10 hours ago, 1011101010001 said:

I never bought that Adnan was 22/23 but when he was talking to Bozo’s screen he had a huge bald spot and I have never seen anyone that young have one like that.  Late 20s yes but not early.  

 

I worked with a guy who had a bald area at 16, I knew him first when he was 19 & he was almost totally bald with just hair on the sides & bald in the middle from front to back. Age can have zero to do with going bald. 

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Tango64

Tango64

Loren is a fascinating character study that just gets worse and worse. (I have known, from somewhat of a distance, people like Loren and his ex-girlfriend. When they said she was coming out, I knew exactly what to expect and she was that.)

Poor, poor Faith. She is so desperate to be loved that she will tolerate anything from this guy. She has flashes of dignity and self esteem that prompt her to cut him loose, but then her despondence leads her right back to him. He even explained how he didn't go to the Philippines for her, that she was just a last minute choice since he'd bought the plane ticket. At this point, after all she's heard, I don't think there is anything that would make her truly and permanently break up with him.

I was Team Vanja pretty hard, but I'm kind of understanding now why men shy away from her. She creates a passionate love story in her head as soon as she meets someone, comes on very strong with the giddy lovey stuff all the time, and seems to have planned out their entire future from the first time they have coffee. That is the vibe they get, even if it is unintentional. When you're just chatting online or having a couple whirlwind first dates with sex you might push that aside. But then it gets to them and they leave.

 

 

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essexjan

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I love Niles and his lack of filters that brought out a whole new side of him, challenging Adnan and Loren on their bullshit. Good for him!

Vanja is so immature, Bozo just wasn't that into her, and the more she tried to come on to him, the more he backed away. I loved that he just noped out of the whole tell-all.

Adnan is awful, controlling and chauvinistic, but Tigerlily knew all this before they married, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for her poor decisions. All the while Adnan was talking I was trying to think who he sounded like with his squeaky helium voice. Then it clicked:

 

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Jeanne222

Jeanne222

Adnan is young, mouthy and foolish but he was able to snag a divorcee with money and hallelujah she at 40 plus was able to birth his child!

Those two are happy in their dysfunction!

Joey and Magna!  What's going on there.  She's a man eater and doesn't trust a word he says.  He seems to always have something, for her to worry about, going on!

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surfgirl

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On 1/13/2025 at 10:55 AM, essexjan said:

I love Niles and his lack of filters that brought out a whole new side of him, challenging Adnan and Loren on their bullshit. Good for him!

Vanja is so immature, Bozo just wasn't that into her, and the more she tried to come on to him, the more he backed away. I loved that he just noped out of the whole tell-all.

Adnan is awful, controlling and chauvinistic, but Tigerlily knew all this before they married, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for her poor decisions.

I also love Niles but he came on a bit too strong during the Tell Nothing P1, IMO. I'm thinking that's because he doesn't know how to regulate his opinions given he's on the spectrum. Having said that, he said everything I've been thinking so there's that! I was disgusted by the ugly bullshit that Brian spewed at Mathilda and she held her own with grace and dignity. And while I think she'd love to live in the USA and make a better life for herself, I also think she loves Niles enough that she would also be willing and happy to live in Ghana with him. Those two are the real deal amongst a sea of famewhore wannabes on this franchise.

Vanja...her whole "OMG, I went to CroATIA to see Bozo and he friend zoned me, OMGCANYOUBELIEVETHAT?!?" schtick fell very flat to me. I wanted to yell at her, 'Yeah you crazy freak show, you act like you've known him for years in person already, he just met you and you were like a pink glitter explosion of neediness and commitment and he backed away, albeit politely. He did not ghost you. He was not unkind to you. When you pressured him to tell you he had romantic feelings for you, he was honest with you and shared how he was feeling. He said he wanted to see if those feelings developed. And you threw him under the bus in front of all his friends. What was the outcome you were expecting Vanya? You are neediness personified. It's sad because you have a lot of good qualities but your rank desperation to get married supercedes you when you walk into a room. It's like wearing perfume that arrives an hour before you do. Just stop and calm the f down.

Joey, Joey, Joey. You big lugheaded schmo! Sure Magna has a hot body and probably is good in the sack based on your mutual smirks the morning after. But she's batshit crazy and jealous beyond reason, and very immature. And she wants that sweet sweet green card more than she wants you. She will make your life a living hell, and your parents and friends will all be there to tell you 'we told you so'.

Brian is a piece of shite. That's all I got for this guy.

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monicageller

monicageller

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On 1/11/2025 at 4:20 PM, 1011101010001 said:

Gall stones make you lose 50 pounds?

I recently had my gallbladder and its 'thousands and thousands and thousands of stones' (an exact quote from my surgeon) removed, and before and after that all I've done is put on weight. Le sigh.

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Stuckathome

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On 1/14/2025 at 3:39 PM, surfgirl said:

wanted to yell at her, 'Yeah you crazy freak show, you act like you've known him for years in person already, he just met you and you were like a pink glitter explosion of neediness and commitment and he backed away, albeit politely. He did not ghost you. He was not unkind to you

This 💯!! She reminds me of a story my now husband told me about a woman he dated in his single fresh off divorce days (when he says he was a ‘ho). After at tops one month of “dating” (basically sounds like they went to happy hour and had sex a few times he has alternated with say we had a few dates and had sex like 3x) she surprised him with these embroidered pillowcases. One said “and they lived…” and the other “happily ever after” and they were personalized with their names. She was in her late 20s, him early 40s and while he still thinks it was a flex, he will always say she was crazy AF and he did ghost immediately after the pillowcase incident. 
 

Vanya reminds me of this woman—-remember the personalized air freshener? She acted like they were practically engaged when she was getting ready for the trip when reality was they had been sexting for a bit. But FFS she is in her 40s! 

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Chalby

Chalby

On 1/16/2025 at 7:16 AM, Stuckathome said:

This 💯!! She reminds me of a story my now husband told me about a woman he dated in his single fresh off divorce days (when he says he was a ‘ho). After at tops one month of “dating” (basically sounds like they went to happy hour and had sex a few times he has alternated with say we had a few dates and had sex like 3x) she surprised him with these embroidered pillowcases. One said “and they lived…” and the other “happily ever after” and they were personalized with their names. She was in her late 20s, him early 40s and while he still thinks it was a flex, he will always say she was crazy AF and he did ghost immediately after the pillowcase incident. 
 

 

Vanya definitely came off as relationship/ marriage needy, and I do believe she is a bit delusional.

But I've dated a lot in my life, as well as observing my friends, and I've noticed men constantly minimize a relationship when they're ready to move on. I would bet even your hubby minimized how often and how close he got with that gal with the pillow.

Boso probably has a girlfriend,  never thinking Vanya would actually show up. 

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Chalby

Chalby

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On 1/13/2025 at 10:43 AM, Tango64 said:

He even explained how he didn't go to the Philippines for her, that she was just a last minute choice since he'd bought the plane ticket.

This really bothered me because of how disconnected he sounds as he rattles of the facts. I understand his self defense is to be flippant or shocking, but his promiscuity alarms me. There's no excuse to not wear a condom when you're having random trysts. 

On 1/12/2025 at 8:20 PM, 1011101010001 said:

Also Cruz was doing Tiger Lily’s hair and Adnan didn’t object so I guess that storyline is over.  And where was Cruz’s “wife”?

Is that the "rule"? I thought she just can't be alone with a man doing her hair. 

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Stuckathome

Stuckathome

9 hours ago, Chalby said:

I've noticed men constantly minimize a relationship when they're ready to move on

Absolutely! Isn’t it funny how this seems to be universal? Bozo was having fun texting/sexting with Zaney! Quirky! Vanya—-when she showed up on his (mama’s) doorstep he was terrified (the ghosting right before she got ready to travel) and then once he spent time with her, it was a big nope. He even sort of hinted at it when he said she is “a lot.” I give him kudos for not telling her what she wanted to hear just to get laid, which I sort of think Josko did—-curious if she paid for his flight over to Orlando in a desperate bid to make something come out of that adventure 

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magemaud

magemaud

Totally off topic but I couldn't resist this photo from Tiger Lily's childrens' clothing line. My theory is that she's using her exposure on the show to promote a new Modest Muslim women's clothing line. 

Oh, and that blue sweater coat she wore at the airport in Istanbul? I can be yours for $ 32.50. Oops, I mean $ 3,250.00

https://neigeconcept.com/collections/womens-clothing/products/tigerlily-grey-knit-long-cardigan-as-seen-on-tv?variant=50107589394713

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Raja

Raja

On 1/14/2025 at 2:43 AM, Tango64 said:

Loren is a fascinating character study that just gets worse and worse. (I have known, from somewhat of a distance, people like Loren and his ex-girlfriend. When they said she was coming out, I knew exactly what to expect and she was that.)

Poor, poor Faith. She is so desperate to be loved that she will tolerate anything from this guy. She has flashes of dignity and self esteem that prompt her to cut him loose, but then her despondence leads her right back to him. He even explained how he didn't go to the Philippines for her, that she was just a last minute choice since he'd bought the plane ticket. At this point, after all she's heard, I don't think there is anything that would make her truly and permanently break up with him.

 

I'm trying to understand the logistics. It seems Loren just called 90 Day and said" I'm going to the Philippines want to hang"?  And 90 Day took the gamble and they presented Faith with a film crew to document their romance as some folks did as proof of relationship for their visa petition. 

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Chalby

Chalby

2 hours ago, Raja said:

I'm trying to understand the logistics. It seems Loren just called 90 Day and said" I'm going to the Philippines want to hang"?  And 90 Day took the gamble and they presented Faith with a film crew to document their romance as some folks did as proof of relationship for their visa petition. 

Exactly. I'd like to know whose name Loren wrote down (as his fiancee) while auditioning for 90 Day Fiance.

Maybe he only cared about getting on the show, regardless of which partner he ended up with?

⁹He may see himself as an open book, but there's far too much gaslighting, and/ or sins of omission. She'll never be able to trust him.

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