S47.E14: "The Last Stand" LIVE CHAT THREAD

[mojoween]

It’s been said before, but Rachel, even if she doesn’t win, should send Sol a real nice Christmas present because without him, she wouldn’t have lasted past that one Tribal.

Is Teeny actively bashing Sam during this questioning?

[WatcherUp2]

Poor Sue, nobody looked shocked at her ginormous age reveal, and then Andy was all "whatever" when she talked about him LYING! on Survivor! three times!

[dizzyd]

I like Rachel more knowing she doesn’t respect Mike and Ben

[LadyChatts]

I think Rachel contradicted herself there by saying Sam wanted her out for being a threat, but she also wanted Sam out for being a threat.  

So far Sue does seem like a non-entity.  

[truthaboutluv]

I wonder if the jury is slightly turned off by Sam and Rachel's bickering. 

[mojoween]

Mike and Ben catching strays out of nowhere.  I’m not mad at it, but it is surprising.

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, WatcherUp2 said:

Poor Sue, nobody looked shocked at her ginormous age reveal, and then Andy was all "whatever" when she talked about him LYING! on Survivor! three times!

Sam seemed genuinely surprised. 

[Lantern7]

Bored, flipping through Facebook.

[WatcherUp2]

Just now, truthaboutluv said:

Sam seemed genuinely surprised. 

Might have been for the jury or the camera.

[jsm1125]

I actually like Sam, but how did he have any more agency than Rachel after the merge? 

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, mojoween said:

Mike and Ben catching strays out of nowhere.  I’m not mad at it, but it is surprising.

I actually think Mike is an underrated winner, even though I was rooting for Carolyn in that final 3.  But it seemed like an odd choice of winners to bring up.

[KaveDweller]

Rachel should talk about how she was able to retrieve the idol in front of everyone and that she got the advantage to stop Sam/Genevieve from getting it. She worked for the advantages.

[ljenkins782]

Sam's theater kid is showing with those crocodile tears and inspirational speech to himself.

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, jsm1125 said:

I actually like Sam, but how did he have any more agency than Rachel after the merge? 

I think he's done a good job of holding his own and trying to say him and Rachel were essentially playing the same game, even if it was in different ways.  I don't think he's good under pressure but Rachel seems like she can also get a little rattled.

So I think it's safe to assume the obvious, Sue really has no shot.

Edited December 19 by LadyChatts

[truthaboutluv]

7 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Mike and Ben catching strays out of nowhere.

Mike and Ben sitting at home and going, "now how am I in it?"

Yes Sue, you should appreciate Kyle hugging you, especially since you hated his guts for one damn vote on like Day 3. 

Edited December 19 by truthaboutluv

[MerBearHou]

3 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Bored, flipping through Facebook.

Same.  I went out to get the mail and put dishes in the sink.

[LadyChatts]

For a really great season, this FTC has been a snooze fest.  I was expecting better from this jury.  

I guess Sue's age is the only thing she's got going for her now.

[Pepper the Cat]

In case you missed it. Sue is 59

[gorgy]

wasn't 45, oops 59 year old Sue against lying

[truthaboutluv]

Yeah Sue, don't see it happening there. That speech for the votes wasn't it. 

[Lantern7]

1 minute ago, truthaboutluv said:

Mike and Ben sitting at home and going, "now how am I in it?"

Or maybe they’re watching The Floor finale. 🤷‍♂️

[LadyChatts]

I think Rachel has the win, Sam will get some votes, and Sue gets nothing (or maybe 1 vote).

[Straycat80]

This jury is boring. Have Sia come out a give some money to Kyle for being  a vegetarian. 
Didn’t they have fan favorite this season? 

[ljenkins782]

5 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I think he's done a good job of holding his own and trying to say him and Rachel were essentially playing the same game, even if it was in different ways.  I don't think he's good under pressure but Rachel seems like she can also get a little rattled.

So I think it's safe to assume the obvious, Sue really has no shot.

It was kind of Gabe to throw Sue a bone by including her in the question that Sierra left her out of. I also don't think she has any chance, but it was nice of him to include her.

[jsm1125]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

This jury is boring. Have Sia come out a give some money to Kyle for being  a vegetarian. 
Didn’t they have fan favorite this season? 

Sia is no longer giving money. Jeff announced as much a few days after the season 46 finale. 

[dizzyd]

20 minutes for aftershow, that’s tight.

[LadyChatts]

I never buy that the jury doesn't have their minds made up before coming in.  Maybe a couple of them get swayed but I always believe the majority have their minds made up.

[truthaboutluv]

Yeah Sue's not getting any votes. Her best chance was Caroline and as we all saw, she voted for Rachel. 

[DEL901]

Just now, dizzyd said:

20 minutes for aftershow, that’s tight.

 

Just now, dizzyd said:

20 minutes for aftershow, that’s tight.

Maybe it was too boring so they cut it short?

[truthaboutluv]

Just now, LadyChatts said:

I never buy that the jury doesn't have their minds made up before coming in.  Maybe a couple of them get swayed but I always believe the majority have their minds made up.

Same. 

[LadyChatts]

Just now, dizzyd said:

20 minutes for aftershow, that’s tight.

This group fizzled in the finale.  Maybe they had nothing exciting to talk about.  

 

[Lantern7]

Rachel wins. Seems right. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[Straycat80]

I was not a fan of any of the F3. I was a Kyle fan. But Rachel deserved that win.

[gorgy]

well that took too long

[DEL901]

So looks like Sam got 1 vote and Sue none.  

[Grizzly]

Kyle's vote deprives Sue of second! Love it!

[Rodney]

Yay, Rachel!

Glad that not even Sierra supported Sam in the end!

Edited December 19 by Rodney

[LadyChatts]

Thought Sam might get more than 1 vote, but at least it wasn't as heartbreaking of a loss for me as last season.  Great season with a dull, predictable finale (I mean Jeff made it obvious Rachel was winning in his opening segment).

[Haleth]

Wow. I thought it would be closer. 

[Pepper the Cat]

Yes!,👏 

[AntFTW]

Rachel deserved it. Good for her.

[truthaboutluv]

It fizzled at the end because once Rachel started winning challenges, the game was never in doubt. She was too strong physically and she had a million advantages making it impossible to get rid of her. 

Edited December 19 by truthaboutluv

[LadyChatts]

Just now, Grizzly said:

Kyle's vote deprives Sue of second! Love it!

Maybe that was intentional.  And if it was, then I am glad that of all the jurors it was Kyle to do it.  It's very fitting to her legacy.

[Rodney]

Just now, truthaboutluv said:

It fizzled at the end because once Rachel started winning challenges, the game was never in doubt. She was too strong physically and she a million advantages making it impossible to get rid of her. 

And?  She still earned it.  She played those advantages in ways that still impressed the jury, not had them thinking that they were the only things on which she relied.  That was all that mattered.

[LadyChatts]

2 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

It fizzled at the end because once Rachel started winning challenges, the game was never in doubt. She was too strong physically and she a million advantages making it impossible to get rid of her. 

I thought her idol play was overrated but I know I'm in the minority with that.  I do wish they'd cool it with so many advantages and idols, especially those that directly influence the game (like block/steal a votes or nullifying advantages/idols).

Kind of ironic that an advantage is what saved Rachel in the first place, though.

She was also an alternate in S46 so I guess she got lucky she didn't compete last season.

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Wow. I thought it would be closer. 

I thought Sam might get a couple of votes but I figured Rachel was getting the bulk of it.

Edited December 19 by LadyChatts

[Lantern7]

5 minutes ago, Grizzly said:

Kyle's vote deprives Sue of second! Love it!

Well, in terms of placement, she’s the best Sue to play the game. Unless you’re talking about number of days played. I dunno.

Edited December 19 by Lantern7

[Brown44]

Hopefully they've learned we don't need 3 hour finales.

[Rodney]

2 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

I thought her idol play was overrated but I know I'm in the minority with that.

Very much so.

[LadyChatts]

Just now, Brown44 said:

Hopefully they've learned we don't need 3 hour finales.

I don't really get why they called it a 2 part finale because last week felt like a normal double-boot episode.  But I do like the final 4 in the finale again.  If we aren't going to have the live reunion show anymore (which seems very unlikely) then they could probably just ax this part right after the vote and do 90 minutes.

[argrow]

Oh God. Enough of Andy. Should have been gone in ep 1.