S05.E10: The Apocalypse of Change

[Snazzy Daisy]

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Beth comes to a chilling realization.

Kayce reaches out to an old friend in search of information.

Jamie meets with Market Equities.

Air Date: Nov 17, 2024

 

Edited November 22 by Snazzy Daisy

[floridamom]

Why did CBS broadcast the first episode but isn't going to broadcast the rest? We were able to watch it on CBS.

[CrazyInAlabama]

They showed Episode 9 on Paramount, CMT and a bunch of other channels.  This week it shows on CMT only once, and Paramount several times through the week.      No other channels this time.  

 

[mythoughtis]

Geez Beth, you just admitted your dad kidnapped Summer.  And that you knew it. At least offer her some money as you kick her out. 

[Crashcourse]

So now we know why he's called Gator.  He likes fried gator! 🤮😅

When Rip was driving Summer to the airport, I was hoping they'd drive to a motel or hook up along the side of the road.  

[Madding crowd]

Every episode is the same: Beth beats people up, Rip is mean to the cowboys and Kayce acts like he’s in a different show. I assume this will end with Beth killing Jamie and getting everything so what is the point of watching? If I thought Sheridan could surprise me it would be worth watching.

[CrazyInAlabama]

I think Kayce being detached plays into the fact that he's going to be left at the ranch with his son, Tate, who is the heir to everything.   With sad Monica too. 

I enjoyed Beth smacking Jamie, after he admitted he was in on the hit.   Notice the admin. assistant didn't call the cops while Beth was smacking him.   Jamie isn't on anyone's list for anything but as a loser and wimp.   

 Now we see why the investment company behind the airport and resort and pipeline paid so much to kill John.    So, Sarah and Jamie have admitted what happened, who paid for it, and all to get Jamie to be governor?   That will never happen.       

Rip may be tough on the cowboys, but if Teeter had listened to him, and closed the tent up tight, she wouldn't have ended up with the rattlers crawling into the tent.  

 

(Someone else found the schedule, and there are new episodes schedules for every sunday, for the remaining 4 episodes.) 

 

 

 

 

[bunnyface]

11 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

Every episode is the same: Beth beats people up, Rip is mean to the cowboys and Kayce acts like he’s in a different show. I assume this will end with Beth killing Jamie and getting everything so what is the point of watching? If I thought Sheridan could surprise me it would be worth watching.

Beth won't get everything.  I don't think Beth even wants everything.  She has said more than once that once John is dead, she didn't care if the whole place was cemented over.  While that exact sentiment might have changed, and be completely forgotten about in the choppy, ridiculous Yellowstone universe, Tate is the only legitimate heir at this point.  She may not want it cemented over for his sake, if he wants it.  Or for Rip's sake.  Rip doesn't even see the world as being available to him.  All he knows is the ranch.  So she may want to keep it from going under for his sake also, but she doesn't want it for herself.    

[Madding crowd]

By everything, I meant whatever she wants which may be to live on a ranch with Rip. My biggest problem with this series is that none of the characters have shown any kind of change or growth. Beth remains a daddy obsessed violent thug who never really pays for her constantly hurting people. Rip is a miserable man who takes his misery out on the cowboys and his adopted son.  Jamie remains a wimpy villain who lets everyone control him and Kayce’s only characteristic is love for his family. That makes for a dull overall story in my opinion.

[mythoughtis]

Part of last night’s episode was to set up Rip and Beth to move to Texas.   The female cop letting her off with a verbal warning because Rip was at 6666.  The speakeasy catering to cowboys etc. 

I still haven’t figured out why Beth is/was so obsessed with her father.  He treated her badly both growing up and in the first season when she came home at his request.  He wasn’t a nice man - on board with branding humans, the train station, kidnapping Summer and keeping Rip from being able to even get a driver’s license. 
 

How is being unknowingly kidnapped Summer’s fault anyway?  If she can’t trust the governor to tell her the truth? also why didn’t someone at the Department  of Corrections?

 

Edited November 18 by mythoughtis

[Msample]

13 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

So now we know why he's called Gator.  He likes fried gator! 🤮😅

When Rip was driving Summer to the airport, I was hoping they'd drive to a motel or hook up along the side of the road.  

I though for sure Beth would tell rip to take summer to the train station.

Another classic example of Sheridans lazy writing. Dutton can afford millions of dollars in lease fees for winter grazing, but not one cent for indoor quarters for the cowboys. Hell a trailer would even be better.

[FnkyChkn34]

On 11/17/2024 at 8:45 AM, floridamom said:

Why did CBS broadcast the first episode but isn't going to broadcast the rest? We were able to watch it on CBS.

FCC regulations?  I'm shocked that the first episode was on CBS to begin with.  This show is too violent and vulgar for network television.

2 hours ago, Msample said:

I though for sure Beth would tell rip to take summer to the train station.

Another classic example of Sheridans lazy writing. Dutton can afford millions of dollars in lease fees for winter grazing, but not one cent for indoor quarters for the cowboys. Hell a trailer would even be better.

When they first got to the Four Sixes, the guy offered them the bunkhouse multiple times.  Rip kept saying no; I don't think that's Dutton's fault.

I have no idea what to expect out of this show.  Is Kevin Costner done and we won't even see him in flashbacks?  He made this show, I don't care about Beth and Jamie's feud.  Kayce and his family are fine but they can't carry the show.

Exactly how much time has passed since the first episode?  It's not supposed to have been 8-10 years, right?  No offense to the character or the actor, of course, but that's the problem with having children as prominent characters on shows that aren't consistently on year after year.  Tate is now sixteen, so there was like a 4 year time jump?  Doesn't make sense... 

[CrazyInAlabama]

3 hours ago, Msample said:

I though for sure Beth would tell rip to take summer to the train station.

Another classic example of Sheridans lazy writing. Dutton can afford millions of dollars in lease fees for winter grazing, but not one cent for indoor quarters for the cowboys. Hell a trailer would even be better.

No, Rip declined the bunkhouse so they could stay with the cattle herd.  Then, he said they weren't getting motel rooms because it costs so much to keep the cattle at the 4 6666s.  I only caught it the second time around. 

[blackwing]

Just for my clarification... in last week's episode, Beth tearfully called Rip in Texas and telling her she needed him.  He drives through the night and arrives back in Montana.  Episode ended with her leaping into his arms.

This week's episode started with Rip still in Texas.  Teeter finds a rattlesnake in her tent and the crew kills a few of them.  Kayce, Monica, and Tate are in the process of fixing up their new house.  Beth is driving down to Texas to see Rip.  She gets pulled over for speeding, thinks she is going to flirt with the cop, but the cop turns out to be a woman.  Cop thanks Beth's husband for ranching and sends her on her way.  Beth and Rip get a hotel room.

Then Beth is shown waking up in her bed at the ranch.  Rip is there with her.  Kayce arrives at his new house (which has a fully completed roof) and breaks the news of John's death to Monica and Tate.

So all of those opening sequences were just part of Beth's dream?  Why?  What was the point of having all those dream sequences.  How would Beth be able to dream about the rattlesnakes in Texas or Kayce repairing his house if she wasn't there?

It was a big fake out for sure.  I had been wondering how Rip made it back to Texas so quickly or why Beth was leaving Montana when her father had just died.

Beth has always been able to read Jamie like an open book, and Jamie has always been a simpering wimp when it comes to her.  I'm glad Beth is on to him and the viper, and I'm glad she told Kayce about it.

Market Equities guy has no authority, why was he ordering Jamie's assistant to call security and why would she even listen to him?  She must have heard the whole exchange between Beth and Jamie through the open door and she didn't take any action when Beth was slapping the hell out of Jamie.  

So Market Equities did all of this just because Jamie approved and because they want to move forward with their development.  I don't know if Silver Hair is coming back this season (I hope not), but if she does, it would be great seeing everyone in Market Equities go down for this.

Beth to Summer:  "I forgot all about you."  If only.  I hope that is the last we see of Summer.  Although I did chuckle at her line to Beth "I hope you donate your body to science so scientists can study you and figure out why you're such a bitch".  Hahahah.

 

 

On 11/17/2024 at 7:45 AM, floridamom said:

Why did CBS broadcast the first episode but isn't going to broadcast the rest? We were able to watch it on CBS.

The show has always been on Paramount Network.  After Paramount Plus became a thing, the current season of the show doesn't even air on Paramount Plus.  Only on Paramount Network.  

The former Viacom (which owned Paramount Network) merged with CBS a few years ago.  That's why all the CBS stream on Paramount Plus the next day.

I'm guessing they aired the first episode of this Season 5B on CBS in an effort to entice people to get a cable/satellite package that includes Paramount Network.

[Crashcourse]

I thought it was pretty decent of Jamie not to slap the shit out of Beth when she kept assaulting him.  Just as it's not ok for men to be violent, it's not ok for women to do it either.  I'm tired of Beth getting away with assaulting whomever she wants, and that whole community service bit wasn't enough punishment.      

[blackwing]

9 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I thought it was pretty decent of Jamie not to slap the shit out of Beth when she kept assaulting him.  Just as it's not ok for men to be violent, it's not ok for women to do it either.  I'm tired of Beth getting away with assaulting whomever she wants, and that whole community service bit wasn't enough punishment.      

He is responsible for getting his father killed.  He will claim he didn't mean it.  But he was the direct cause.  He was jealous that Lynelle endorsed John for governor instead of him.  And now he made it clear that he thinks he will step right in to the position.  I don't think there's anything decent about Jamie.  Beth isn't a good person either, but she loved her father and the ranch and I think she has a point when she told Kayce that Jamie couldn't even lie about it.

As for the election... why is there an election?  If the Governor dies, shouldn't the Lieutenant Governor become Governor and completes the term?  I thought John had recently gotten elected, so there shouldn't be another election for nearly four years.  But Jamie and Market Equities Guy act like the election will be next week.

I hope Lynelle runs against him and I hope she crushes him.  I don't know if she is term-limited since she was already Governor.  But if Taylor Sheridan can play loose with real-life politics rules to bypass the Lieutenant Governor, then Lynelle can just as easily become Governor again.

[Crashcourse]

1 hour ago, blackwing said:

He is responsible for getting his father killed.  He will claim he didn't mean it.  But he was the direct cause.  He was jealous that Lynelle endorsed John for governor instead of him.  And now he made it clear that he thinks he will step right in to the position.  I don't think there's anything decent about Jamie.  Beth isn't a good person either, but she loved her father and the ranch and I think she has a point when she told Kayce that Jamie couldn't even lie about it.

Meh, Jamie's no saint but I'm just sick and tired of Beth constantly assaulting and humiliating people.  Sure, Beth loved her daddy, but John Dutton was no saint either and I'm not sorry he's dead.  He deserved to be buried at the train station. 

[bunnyface]

7 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Part of last night’s episode was to set up Rip and Beth to move to Texas.   The female cop letting her off with a verbal warning because Rip was at 6666.  The speakeasy catering to cowboys etc. 

I still haven’t figured out why Beth is/was so obsessed with her father.  He treated her badly both growing up and in the first season when she came home at his request.  He wasn’t a nice man - on board with branding humans, the train station, kidnapping Summer and keeping Rip from being able to even get a driver’s license. 
 

How is being unknowingly kidnapped Summer’s fault anyway?  If she can’t trust the governor to tell her the truth? also why didn’t someone at the Department  of Corrections?

 

The Barfield doesn't exactly cater to cowboys, it's just what they did for the show.  It's a real speakeasy in a real hotel here.  Built as a speakeasy when the hotel was first built during prohibition and revived when the hotel was renovated.  I haven't been there but I hear it's pretty cool.

3 hours ago, blackwing said:

Just for my clarification... in last week's episode, Beth tearfully called Rip in Texas and telling her she needed him.  He drives through the night and arrives back in Montana.  Episode ended with her leaping into his arms.

This week's episode started with Rip still in Texas.  Teeter finds a rattlesnake in her tent and the crew kills a few of them.  Kayce, Monica, and Tate are in the process of fixing up their new house.  Beth is driving down to Texas to see Rip.  She gets pulled over for speeding, thinks she is going to flirt with the cop, but the cop turns out to be a woman.  Cop thanks Beth's husband for ranching and sends her on her way.  Beth and Rip get a hotel room.

Then Beth is shown waking up in her bed at the ranch.  Rip is there with her.  Kayce arrives at his new house (which has a fully completed roof) and breaks the news of John's death to Monica and Tate.

So all of those opening sequences were just part of Beth's dream?  Why?  What was the point of having all those dream sequences.  How would Beth be able to dream about the rattlesnakes in Texas or Kayce repairing his house if she wasn't there?

 

I don't think it was a dream sequence.  I think it was just a jumping around of the timeline, like they did last week.  I don't think it's effective but it's not the first time they've done it either.  

It was questioned about Rip getting to the ranch so quickly last week also.  My friend drives to Jackson Hole, Wyoming every year for vacation.  It's about a 14 hour drive from here, Amarillo.  However far Jackson Hole is from our make believe ranch, I could see a motivated person driving it in a little over a day.  And our Rip was motivated.

[rhygirl720]

3 minutes ago, bunnyface said:

 

It was questioned about Rip getting to the ranch so quickly last week also.  My friend drives to Jackson Hole, Wyoming every year for vacation.  It's about a 14 hour drive from here, Amarillo.  However far Jackson Hole is from our make believe ranch, I could see a motivated person driving it in a little over a day.  And our Rip was motivated.

Plus, he has the magic get out of jail free card because he is a cowboy! in that case I'm a cowboy too!!

[Snazzy Daisy]

This is a terrible episode. Nothing much happens to move the story forward. 

Enough with the flashbacks!!! Just focus on the present timeline where the big story is. Geez. 🙄

Even if the show wants to foreshadow that Yellowstone ranch will be adopting Four Sixes’ business model in order to survive, it can be done without the disjointed flashbacks and confusing timeline.

It seems like the buildup of Beth being a “hero” is on full swing. It’s a sad trajectory for Yellowstone. 😣

I hope Summer Higgins is pregnant with John Dutton’s baby.

Despite everything, it’s good to see a familiar face — Jake McLaughlin as Cade McPhereson, Kayce’s old pal.  
 

[chick binewski]

7 hours ago, blackwing said:

He is responsible for getting his father killed.  He will claim he didn't mean it.  But he was the direct cause.  He was jealous that Lynelle endorsed John for governor instead of him.  And now he made it clear that he thinks he will step right in to the position.  I don't think there's anything decent about Jamie.  Beth isn't a good person either, but she loved her father and the ranch and I think she has a point when she told Kayce that Jamie couldn't even lie about it.

I agree Jamie is terrible but up until last Sunday's episode he wanted to kill Beth, not John. 

12 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Part of last night’s episode was to set up Rip and Beth to move to Texas.   The female cop letting her off with a verbal warning because Rip was at 6666.  The speakeasy catering to cowboys etc. 

I still haven’t figured out why Beth is/was so obsessed with her father.  He treated her badly both growing up and in the first season when she came home at his request.  He wasn’t a nice man - on board with branding humans, the train station, kidnapping Summer and keeping Rip from being able to even get a driver’s license. 

How is being unknowingly kidnapped Summer’s fault anyway?  If she can’t trust the governor to tell her the truth? also why didn’t someone at the Department  of Corrections?

Lordy if the premise of the alleged spin-off is Beth destroying Texas property, beating up Texans, wearing tight clothes & artfully smudged eyeliner and swigging from a bottle of 6666 Vodka (tm) whist law enforcement holds doors for her thanking her for her husband's service I am sure Sheridan will get at least a dozen branding opportunities and mounds of hackneyed dialogue from of it. 

I know John being Summer's captor was a super quick and gadawful plot hole patch to get Piper Perabo out of the building but maybe - much like finding out about the train station - Beth forgets about John's misdeeds the minute they're exposed? We may have a Ben/Glory situation and at this point I would welcome Yellowstone lifting Buffy storylines.

I really hated this episode and the unexplained time jumps more than last week's premiere.

 

[TVbitch]

This is the final season and they are wasting so much time with inconsequential and repetetive scenes. For the first 20 minutes, alls I could think was: "I have had it with these motherfooking snakes on this motherfooking plain!"

We get it show, cowboyin' is hard and noble and these people should be treated like gods and veterans (no matter how many folk they might be a'killin' on the side. 

If this was the quality of writing that made Kevin Costner bail, he is probably not regretting his decision too terribly much. 

[blackwing]

51 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

This is the final season and they are wasting so much time with inconsequential and repetetive scenes. For the first 20 minutes, alls I could think was: "I have had it with these motherfooking snakes on this motherfooking plain!"

We get it show, cowboyin' is hard and noble and these people should be treated like gods and veterans (no matter how many folk they might be a'killin' on the side. 

If this was the quality of writing that made Kevin Costner bail, he is probably not regretting his decision too terribly much. 

Yep.  And don't forget "... and this cowboy way of life ain't gonna be around much longer unless folks like us preserve it and pass it on to our chill'ren".

There's only 6 episodes total in 5B.  And at least one-third of each episode is complete filler.  It's a snoozefest.

If Sheridan is trying to make me want to watch "6666", he's completely failing.  I don't care if they have their own vodka.  What is the association between a cattle ranch and vodka?  Whiskey or bourbon I could understand, but vodka just seems odd.

And I see that now he's got yet another new series called "Landman".  As much as I like Demi Moore, Jon Hamm and Billy Bob Thornton, I think I will pass.  They might as well rename Paramount the Sheridan Network.

[Abmis]

This show has gotten so sloppy.  Teeter is a Texan and it's unlikely that she wouldn't know she needed to zip her tent all the way.  Even if she's not from that part of Texas she would have had to have heard stories about rattlesnakes.  I feel like they had to make the only woman in the group look dumb.  The only two women on this show that I can think of that have any kind of sense and work ethic are Teeter and Lynelle.  If anyone can think of any more please enlighten me. 

Another thing that bothers me is that Banamine one of the medications being shown injected into the horse's neck is not for use for intramuscular injections and is for intravenous or oral use only.  Vets clinics are actually issuing online warnings about this. 

I live in an agricultural community and sadly I have never heard of a farmer or rancher being thanked by the police or anyone else. 

 

 

[Crashcourse]

On 11/17/2024 at 8:39 PM, mythoughtis said:

Geez Beth, you just admitted your dad kidnapped Summer.  And that you knew it. At least offer her some money as you kick her out. 

I wonder where Summer got the money to take a flight to wherever she was going?  Did Dutton secretly give her some?

[Lonesome Rhodes]

I loved the open with the homage/paean to the Cowboy Way.  

Then, blammo!  The risks and dangers are literally deadly.  And they are incredibly random.  No sane person would choose such a life.  One with crazy passion would, though.  Anyway, the juxtaposition within the open was quite powerful, imo.

Market equities lost tens of millions of dollars which they invested in developing the Yellowstone and Confederated reservation environs.  It seems perfectly rational for them to at least try to claw some of it back.  If they can actually make it pay, all the better.  So, here we are.  I just wish Harvey Korman were around to recreate Hedley as a ME executive.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Summer is gonna return with some environmental/climate change juice behind her to help Beth and Kayce save the day.  I'd love to see Rainwater somehow bring in Native allies, and federal powers that be, to trump Montana law.

I love the possibilities of the Black Ops group.  Of course, ugh, Beth will prove to be savvier and tougher than them.

Didja notice absolutely perfect weather for all scenes and all locations?  Give me a break.

[bunnyface]

6 hours ago, Abmis said:

This show has gotten so sloppy.  Teeter is a Texan and it's unlikely that she wouldn't know she needed to zip her tent all the way.  Even if she's not from that part of Texas she would have had to have heard stories about rattlesnakes.  I feel like they had to make the only woman in the group look dumb.  The only two women on this show that I can think of that have any kind of sense and work ethic are Teeter and Lynelle.  If anyone can think of any more please enlighten me. 

 

There is no way Teeter is that dumb.  But they did make a point of saying she is not from Texas somewhere back when she first showed up.  She's from Texarkana, the east side, which makes from from Arkansas.  Or so they said even as she spit fire at them.

 

[mythoughtis]

On 11/19/2024 at 8:42 AM, blackwing said:

If Sheridan is trying to make me want to watch "6666", he's completely failing.  I don't care if they have their own vodka.  What is the association between a cattle ranch and vodka?  Whiskey or bourbon I could understand, but vodka just seems odd.

I was at the grocery store today.  They had Four 6666 meatloaf seasoning.  I didn’t buy it on principle.  Sheridan has his fingers in too many pies as it is. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

2 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I was at the grocery store today.  They had Four 6666 meatloaf seasoning.  I didn’t buy it on principle.  Sheridan has his fingers in too many pies as it is. 

They also have a line of TV dinners for Yellowstone, canned chili and other canned food, seasonings, a line of clothing, hats, etc for Yellowstone too.  Lots of Yellowstone merchandise too.   Plus, 4 6666s has beef for sale, booze, seasons and spice mixtures, a steakhouse in Vegas, an online store.  Have a horse breeding operation, reining horses.   

Lots of TV shows have online stores.   

I think the previews at the end of the show are giving too much away.   

I did enjoy Jamie getting bitch slapped by Beth, and the assistant just watching until the others showed up.   I have the feeling she's not fond of Jamie.   

Word of warning for those recording, for some reason recordings aren't happening for both episodes recently, so you may have to manually set it up.  

Edited November 20 by CrazyInAlabama

[AriAu]

Confusing episode but I did enjoy Beth slapping the crap out of Jamie and the viper he shares a bed with each night.

 

Edited November 22 by AriAu

[Snazzy Daisy]

Bitchy Beth!

 

[CrazyInAlabama]

On 11/21/2024 at 2:47 PM, AriAu said:

Confusing episode but I did enjoy Beth slapping the crap out of Jamie and the viper he shares a bed with each night.

 

I enjoyed that too. And the admin. assistant just watching and enjoying it.   

[Crashcourse]

The assistant watched the slapping, but I don't think she enjoyed it.  She just looked like she wasn't surprised it was happening.  I think she didn't call the police because she knew who Beth was, probably heard stories about her being drunk and unruly, so she didn't want to lose her job.  

And Beth smokes so much, I wouldn't' be surprised if she died of lung cancer at a relatively young age.

[Blondie]

In many states Power of attorney is  no longer in effect once  the person who granted it is deceased.   At that point the executor of  the  estate takes over.  They never said  who the executor is.  

[Snazzy Daisy]

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