Chit-Chat: The Feels

[tearknee]

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That "aw shucks" crap from Bush was such an act. He came from a political dynasty and he was about as Texan as I am. In fact I may be more so because even though I now live in blue Washington and even bluer Seattle, I was at least born in San Antonio.

Bush could fake it. AOC can't. Bernie can't. Amanda Marcotte can't (her small-town Texan childhood effectively may have well ceased to exist for rural and regional non-intellectual elite white voters after she became college educated left-leaning blogger and activist living in a big city.

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Bush could fake it. AOC can't. Bernie can't. Amanda Marcotte can't (her small-town Texan childhood effectively may have well ceased to exist for rural and regional non-intellectual elite white voters after she became college educated left-leaning blogger and activist living in a big city.

True enough. Joe Biden was great because he really came from a blue collar town and a working class family. He was was the real deal. Guys (lets be real, it's gonna be a guy)  so this list of top contenders will never fly-

Gretchen Whitmer – Governor of Michigan - nope, woman.

Raphael Warnock – Junior Senator of Georgia- nope, black

Pete Buttigieg – Former mayor and previous Transportation Secretary - nope, gay

Josh Shapiro – Governor of Pennsylvania - maybe but Jewish

Jared Polis – Governor of Colorado - remains to be seen.

Wes Moore – Governor of Maryland - ditto

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – U.S. representative of New York (and likely de-facto representative of the Progressive wing) - nope, woman, too progressive

So, who is it going to be ? Newsome? I don't think so.

[ebk57]

3 hours ago, suomi said:

Inside the Explosive Meeting Where Trump Officials Clashed With Elon Musk

Simmering anger at the billionaire’s unchecked power spilled out in a remarkable Cabinet Room meeting. The president quickly moved to rein in Mr. Musk.

Mr. Rubio had been privately furious with Mr. Musk for weeks, ever since his team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under Mr. Rubio’s control: the United States Agency for International Development. But, in the extraordinary cabinet meeting in front of President Trump and around 20 others — details of which have not been reported before — Mr. Rubio got his grievances off his chest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-power.html

 

 

This part was astonishing - he thinks air traffic controllers should come from MIT because they're "geniuses"??? MIT graduates don't want to be air traffic controllers. He's delusional (I know - not news)

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Just moments before the blowup with Mr. Rubio, Mr. Musk and the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, went back and forth about the state of the Federal Aviation Administration’s equipment for tracking airplanes and what kind of fix was needed. Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary, jumped in to support Mr. Musk.

Mr. Duffy said the young staff of Mr. Musk’s team was trying to lay off air traffic controllers. What am I supposed to do? Mr. Duffy said. I have multiple plane crashes to deal with now, and your people want me to fire air traffic controllers?

Mr. Musk told Mr. Duffy that his assertion was a “lie.” Mr. Duffy insisted it was not; he had heard it from them directly. Mr. Musk, asking who had been fired, said: Give me their names. Tell me their names.

Mr. Duffy said there were not any names, because he had stopped them from being fired. At another point, Mr. Musk insisted that people hired under diversity, equity and inclusion programs were working in control towers. Mr. Duffy pushed back and Mr. Musk did not add details, but said during the longer back and forth that Mr. Duffy had his phone number and should call him if he had any issues to raise.

The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.

[Anela]

35 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Bush could fake it. AOC can't. Bernie can't. Amanda Marcotte can't (her small-town Texan childhood effectively may have well ceased to exist for rural and regional non-intellectual elite white voters after she became college educated left-leaning blogger and activist living in a big city.

MAGA mocked AOC for being a bartender.  Her mother was a a house cleaner, and a school bus driver.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#:~:text=After college%2C Ocasio-Cortez moved,Bronx in a positive light.

Edited Friday at 11:14 PM by Anela

[Annber03]

8 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

This shows how profoundly stupid some men are.

Also shows why we desperately need comprehensive sex education in schools. 

[Eri]

5 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

We saw Republicans doing town halls in their districts. Were Democrats doing that? 

*raises hand* My local Congresswoman had a live phone town hall meeting this week - and based on the questions being asked, it mirrors a lot of what is said on here: people are worried about Medicaid being cut, about Social Security, funding for schools (privatization and separation of church & state), how they're going to reach out to young people, etc.

She responded by emphasizing that Democrats are working on finding/creating their own information networks to do more outreach, and call our representatives and let our voices be heard, show up at their office buildings and let them know you won't be ignored, stuff like that. I certainly will be to complain about those two NY House members who censured Al Green because WTH!? 

The difference is Democrats can't connect to their base while Republicans are afraid of theirs - I think the dynamic on this needs to change. And the more Democratic leaning voters show up to town halls (Democratic and Republican) and just be generally disruptive, the more likely this actually gets reflected with Democratic politicians.

Someone recently recommended an app to me (5 Calls) that connects you directly with your local/state representatives in Washington sourced from public government websites. It also provides you with live updates on the latest issues, bills and concerns going on with Congress, regardless of party. They even provide responses on how to articulate your concerns to these local offices; I believe every call is tallied but I've found it very helpful and informative - I encourage everyone else to do so.

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Thank you. I don't like the idea that Dems have to dumb themselves down to appeal to more people.  It plays into the right's narrative that Dems are elitists. 

This. And it's also an insult to lower-class people like myself who aren't alienated by the Democrats' supposedly "elitist" way of speaking. Being lower-class doesn't automatically make you stupid, after all. 

I don't give a damn whether or not a political candidate is a "regular guy/woman" or went to an Ivy League school, or whether or not I can "have a beer" with them or any of that bullshit. I just want them to do their fucking job. I want them to protect people's rights and promote policies that benefit the country and the world at large. That's it. 

Edited Friday at 11:32 PM by Annber03

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

5 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Also shows why we desperately need comprehensive sex education in schools. 

By the time the current occupant of the White House is done dismantling public education and replacing it with looney faith-based charters, sex education will only occur when 17 year old Dick ravages 14 year old Jane underneath the bleachers. 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

By the time the current occupant of the White House is done dismantling public education and replacing it with looney faith-based charters, sex education will only occur when 17 year old Dick ravages 14 year old Jane underneath the bleachers. 

Just like Jesus would have wanted.

/s - just in case.

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

What baffles me more than Trump's lets face it, scant education, is his father's immense wealth. His "gold" plated palaces and rich playboy lifestyle in NYC, doesn't even faze them. The "he's just like us" delusion is like a kind of blindness.

To put it bluntly it's because he is dumb and eats McDonald's. Let's face it. If he hadn't been born into a rich family he either would have died in Vietnam or he would be part of the poor white men crowd who thinks they should have accomplished more in life if not for the women and people of color who took things they should have had.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

 

I remember with Bush it was "he seems like the kind of guy you could have a beer with" but with Trump let's face it even they must see that "he's the kind of guy who would expect you to pick up the cheque".

Bush was dumb too.  I'm seeing pattern here.

39 minutes ago, Anela said:

MAGA mocked AOC for being a bartender.  Her mother was a a house cleaner, and a school bus driver.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez#:~:text=After college%2C Ocasio-Cortez moved,Bronx in a positive light.

To be fair they would have hated her just for being a Hispanic woman.

 

[bluegirl147]

Maybe Andy Beshear Governor of Kentucky will run in 2028.  Democrats have had luck running Democratic governors from southern states.

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Musk leaving the White House after a contentious meeting in the Cabinet room with Trump and Rubio.

He's wearing a suit.  Wonder who told him to dress like a business man instead of a teen hacker.

[partofme]

2 hours ago, Yeah No said:

No, Dems. don't have a monopoly on elitism, but then again the Republicans have Trump who somehow doesn't come off as elitist despite his education, which is the reason why where he went to school doesn't matter to his base. He comes off like a "regular non-college educated guy" while Pete definitely comes off as college educated.

I don't think you can put Pete and Trump in the same universe intellectually and back when Trump went to UPenn pretty much any affluent white guy with connections could get into an ivy league school. And his first two years were spent at Fordham, which is my alma mater and not an ivy league school. We don't know what his grades were but we know he didn't graduate with any honors either. And no way could anyone put him on the same intellectual level with any Rhodes Scholar let alone Pete. Any elitism Trump benefitted from was due to his gender, race and affluence, not his education, his intellect or his demeanor. Which is why he doesn't come off as an elitist snob at all and why his base loves him.

And the only reason Vance seemed OK to the MAGA crowd is his trying to capitalize on being a poor kid that grew up in and knew all about poverty in Appalachia, which many people from that area complain that he didn't grow up in and doesn't know about. But is he really all that "relatable" to them? Not really, which is why he is basically riding the coattails of Trump's appeal to the "masses". Even among Republicans there is no one that appeals to them like Trump does.

And speaking of why Trump went to Fordham first, I am sure it was because back in 1964 it was easy to get into right before the Baby Boom kids came of college age en masse, and women and minorities started entering college in record numbers. When I went there in the late '70s through today it became much harder to get into. Although I could have gone to a tougher school I chose to go there for several reasons. I can see why he transferred out, though. It was definitely not the place for the likes of him!

Oh I agree that Trump is nowhere near as bright as Pete, and it’s been rumored that Trump never showed up on campus at UPenn and had someone else take his tests for him, but he’s still an Ivy League graduate and since Republicans including Trump hate education, he shouldn’t be allowed to ignore this.  My mom is also a Fordham alum, she went for undergrad and her masters and my mom is a few months older than Trump so she may have overlapped with him there, but my mom went to a downtown campus that is no longer open.  I got into Fordham but I really wanted to go to college out of state, I hated the idea of being under an hour from my family at that age.  

[Soapy Goddess]

7 hours ago, Yeah No said:

No disrespect, but I just can't see how it's worth sticking with Trump when there could be so many better Republican candidates (and people) to take up those issues that you and many other Republicans are looking to have addressed. I see nothing wrong with being concerned about the American economy - so am I, but punitive tariffs that are going to create havoc and backfire anyway are not the way to do that. And many Democrats are concerned about immigration too, but again, Trump's heavy-handed, racist way of approaching it is again not humanitarian nor is it going to work in the long run.

I'm sure there will be plenty of better Rep candidates when the time comes. But in the meantime, DJT is our President...and like it or not, many of us respect the office. One may not like his policies or his in-your-face way of doing business, but IMO he's done exactly what he said he was going to do by closing the border. This was his biggest platform and he's doing precisely what 75 million U.S. citizens wanted and expected him to do.

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, partofme said:

it’s been rumored that Trump never showed up on campus at UPenn and had someone else take his tests for him,

Had someone take tests for him, had other guys go to war instead of him.  Yep, that tracks.

[annzeepark914]

I just caught up on all the posts from this afternoon & good God Almighty...it's so damn depressing. "W", another Bush born with a sterling silver spoon in his mouth, being perceived by so many of my fellow Americans as a great guy "to have a beer with"?  I remember being shocked & disgusted, back in 2000, reading that gem. Trump, a total nebbish, causes six (6!) bankruptcies, but is perceived as a successful businessman? The same guy, who's constantly grifting/trolling for donations, is perceived by millions of Americans as a "billionaire"? (per Mike Blumenthal: "I know all the billionaires in NYC and Trump is definitely not one of them"). I'm worn out. Wish I could convince MrP914 to move to Canada (our good neighbors!) or Ireland or England. 🤬

 

[Soapy Goddess]

6 hours ago, Dimity said:

Only Trump gets away with being Trump.  It will be interesting to see if the Republicans actually figure that out for 2028.

I really hope so, because the division of our country is hurting all of us.

[Eri]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

He's wearing a suit.  Wonder who told him to dress like a business man instead of a teen hacker.

Haha! The White House has really struggled to explain what lane Musk is occupying because they continue to say, he's the "face"/ "head" of DOGE whilst he is working side by side with cabinet members who have only been in office for a couple of days/weeks.  They convened the cabinet this week specifically to tell them very publicly that they, not Musk, are in charge of cuts at their agencies, and that Musk is only serving in an advisory role (on paper). In that same statement to the press, the president says "if they don't cut, then Elon will do the cutting." Kind of the opposite message. Who has the final say here when it comes to the federal workforce? TBD!

Oh, and Musk still hasn't divested from any of his businesses that conduct billions of dollars in federal contracts. Convenient conflict of interest...

Edited Yest. at 01:10 AM by Eri

[Soapy Goddess]

5 hours ago, tres bien said:

And yes stop cozing up to Hollywood. I don’t care who they support they don’t speak to people that lives depend on working for minimum wage and working more than one job. The average person can’t relate to them 

Agree 100%...starting with George Clooney. Like you said, the average person can't relate to any of the Hollywood crowd. And yet they sit in their mansions high on a hill preaching as if their word is gospel.

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

True enough. Joe Biden was great because he really came from a blue collar town and a working class family. He was was the real deal. Guys (lets be real, it's gonna be a guy)  so this list of top contenders will never fly-

Gretchen Whitmer – Governor of Michigan - nope, woman.

Raphael Warnock – Junior Senator of Georgia- nope, black

Pete Buttigieg – Former mayor and previous Transportation Secretary - nope, gay

Josh Shapiro – Governor of Pennsylvania - maybe but Jewish

Jared Polis – Governor of Colorado - remains to be seen.

Wes Moore – Governor of Maryland - ditto

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – U.S. representative of New York (and likely de-facto representative of the Progressive wing) - nope, woman, too progressive

So, who is it going to be ? Newsome? I don't think so.

Oh God not Newsom.  I'm from California originally and all my blue friends and family are not Newsom fans.  Too old guard establishment.

I think all of the above would be good contenders.  I just wish, as a whole, society that we could evolve to the point where we look at any potential candidate on just merit and not factor being black, female, gay etc. into their viability to win.  That shouldn't matter.  If I agree with your policies I'll vote for you.  Just because I'm a woman doesn't mean the woman automatically gets my vote.  Just because a woman is running doesn't mean men will lose stuff.  I know we probably have to run milquetoast white guy to procure any chance of taking the White House back but that shouldn't be the factor in our candidate.  But that means a lot of people in this country have to evolve in that line of thinking.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, kittykat said:

Just because I'm a woman doesn't mean the woman automatically gets my vote.  Just because a woman is running doesn't mean men will lose stuff.

We are about to get a new PM because Trudeau has resigned and March 9 is when the decision will come down as to which of the candidates will get the nod.  Much as I want a woman to win I am rooting for a guy, partly because I do think he's the best candidate but also because I think he's got the best chance of keeping Trump Light (Poilevre) out of the PMs office in the next election.  Because, yeah, we're a lot more like the US than we'd like to admit sometimes.

[anony.miss]

47 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I really hope so, because the division of our country is hurting all of us.

Divisiveness is what happens when a rapist, convicted felon, and insurrectionist is voted into the presidency - that's an immoral circle that will never be squared.

 

Edited Yest. at 01:03 AM by anony.miss

[ebk57]

51 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 many of us respect the office.

Too bad the guy in the office doesn't respect it.  Hard for the rest of us to do so.

[PRgal]

32 minutes ago, Dimity said:

We are about to get a new PM because Trudeau has resigned and March 9 is when the decision will come down as to which of the candidates will get the nod.  Much as I want a woman to win I am rooting for a guy, partly because I do think he's the best candidate but also because I think he's got the best chance of keeping Trump Light (Poilevre) out of the PMs office in the next election.  Because, yeah, we're a lot more like the US than we'd like to admit sometimes.

Mark Carney is the ONLY ONE who can beat Nerd Boy.  As you know, Dimity, I was a long time Conservative voter.  I think I voted for Harper's government at least once.  To me, at that time, it was the lady-like thing to do because university really shook me and I had a distaste for anything remotely "liberal."  Maybe it was just my upbringing of never really having to worry about...stuff.  I dunno.  

[Soapy Goddess]

19 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

Divisiveness is what happens when a rapist, convicted felon, and insurrectionist is voted into the presidency - that's an immoral circle that will never be squared.

 

Hating 75 million Americans doesn't help the cause either.

Edited Yest. at 01:13 AM by Soapy Goddess

[Dimity]

14 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

Too bad the guy in the office doesn't respect it.  Hard for the rest of us to do so.

 

The White House just released a group photo of Trump and his new cabinet

[Annber03]

16 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

Too bad the guy in the office doesn't respect it.  Hard for the rest of us to do so.

Yep. I have much respect for the office of the presidency, but the person occupying said office has to actually earn my respect. And there is not a single damn thing Trump has done thus far, be it in this presidency or in his first go-round, that has made him worthy of earning any respect. 

Or, to put it more succicntly, we'll show Trump the same amount of respect the GOP showed, say, Obama when he was president. Fair? 

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Bush was dumb too.  I'm seeing pattern here.

Hell, we can go back as far as Quayle (and probably even earlier, for that matter). Quayle, Bush Jr., Sarah Palin, Trump...it's basically been a game of "Hold my beer" these last few decades with the GOP to see which presidential/vice-presidential candidate from their party can be the dumbest person alive. 

 

Edited Yest. at 01:17 AM by Annber03

[annzeepark914]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

True enough. Joe Biden was great because he really came from a blue collar town and a working class family. He was was the real deal. Guys (lets be real, it's gonna be a guy)  so this list of top contenders will never fly-

Gretchen Whitmer – Governor of Michigan - nope, woman.

Raphael Warnock – Junior Senator of Georgia- nope, black

Pete Buttigieg – Former mayor and previous Transportation Secretary - nope, gay

Josh Shapiro – Governor of Pennsylvania - maybe but Jewish

Jared Polis – Governor of Colorado - remains to be seen.

Wes Moore – Governor of Maryland - ditto

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – U.S. representative of New York (and likely de-facto representative of the Progressive wing) - nope, woman, too progressive

So, who is it going to be ? Newsome? I don't think so.

You forgot Pritzker. Is he "baggage"-free? His State of the State address was quite impressive, considering the dicey situation our country is in right now. I agree...no women candidates (and that sickens me 🤬). But this is war, now. No more of that, "When they go low..." blah blah blah. We need tough as nails candidates who can take on the wussy maga candidates...and beat 'em!

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, anony.miss said:

Divisiveness is what happens when a rapist, convicted felon, and insurrectionist is voted into the presidency - that's an immoral circle that will never be squared.

 

He is only doing what Putin tells him. A dived America is Putin's dream come true.

[Makai]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Hating 75 million Americans doesn't help the cause either.

Since one of their causes is to hate me, I’m good with it. - Sincerely, a non-white, woke, childless cat lady

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, Makai said:

Since one of their causes is to hate me, I’m good with it. - Sincerely, a non-white, woke, childless cat lady

It's not just a matter of how they feel about others. I could live with that and never give it a thought. It's what they DO to people. Bringing their religion into public schools, don't like it? We'll just get rid of public schools. Crawling into women's bodies? Don't like it? Don't try to leave the state if you're a female human of child bearing years.  Throwing normal, hardworking Americans out of work. Don't like it? Don't be brown.

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – U.S. representative of New York (and likely de-facto representative of the Progressive wing) - nope, woman, too progressive

And also a minority to boot.

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

This. And it's also an insult to lower-class people like myself who aren't alienated by the Democrats' supposedly "elitist" way of speaking. Being lower-class doesn't automatically make you stupid, after all. 

I don't give a damn whether or not a political candidate is a "regular guy/woman" or went to an Ivy League school, or whether or not I can "have a beer" with them or any of that bullshit. I just want them to do their fucking job. I want them to protect people's rights and promote policies that benefit the country and the world at large. That's it. 

I'm with you but obviously it matters to a lot of voters out there so it's a problem the Democratic party will have to address in order to be successful at winning the White House again. 

And it's not necessarily all about "stupidity" either. It's about "relatability" and being "down to earth" versus acting like a snob and above the average person. And that is irrespective of intelligence or economic class level.

My parents were not college educated (my mother eventually went to college and grad. school over the age of 40) and didn't make much money but they were both extremely intelligent. So I am well acquainted with this issue first hand.

5 hours ago, partofme said:

 My mom is also a Fordham alum, she went for undergrad and her masters and my mom is a few months older than Trump so she may have overlapped with him there, but my mom went to a downtown campus that is no longer open.  I got into Fordham but I really wanted to go to college out of state, I hated the idea of being under an hour from my family at that age.  

I couldn't afford to go away to college unless I went to a state school but Fordham interested me for several reasons and it was more affordable so that's where I went. And I did enjoy it despite some issues with the place. I also worked there for 10 years in undergrad. admissions while going to grad. school there so I had a long relationship with the place. It's hard to believe I entered the Bronx campus 10 years after Trump left. But thanks to a lot of social change that happened in that decade it was a very different place than when he went there. He definitely wouldn't have liked the socially liberal views and values the Jesuit professors I knew had at that time. Perhaps that's one reason why he left.

[tearknee]

8 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

True enough. Joe Biden was great because he really came from a blue collar town and a working class family. He was was the real deal. Guys (lets be real, it's gonna be a guy)  so this list of top contenders will never fly-

Gretchen Whitmer – Governor of Michigan - nope, woman.

Raphael Warnock – Junior Senator of Georgia- nope, black

Pete Buttigieg – Former mayor and previous Transportation Secretary - nope, gay

Josh Shapiro – Governor of Pennsylvania - maybe but Jewish

Jared Polis – Governor of Colorado - remains to be seen.

Wes Moore – Governor of Maryland - ditto

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – U.S. representative of New York (and likely de-facto representative of the Progressive wing) - nope, woman, too progressive

So, who is it going to be ? Newsome? I don't think so.

Do you think i want any of this? No, I don't. To quote the third Doctor Who, I'd give anything to save you all. But what happened to me over the last several decades has left me with a rough and hard vision of what people are actually like (that because of the stroke damage and my autism meaning i cannot see the psychological masks people use does not help in a lot of ways - people become unsettled and hostile about that :'( )

7 hours ago, Annber03 said:

This. And it's also an insult to lower-class people like myself who aren't alienated by the Democrats' supposedly "elitist" way of speaking. Being lower-class doesn't automatically make you stupid, after all. 

I don't give a damn whether or not a political candidate is a "regular guy/woman" or went to an Ivy League school, or whether or not I can "have a beer" with them or any of that bullshit. I just want them to do their fucking job. I want them to protect people's rights and promote policies that benefit the country and the world at large. That's it. 

the way people vote in secret in the booth is a better indication of how they actually think. Yes, you are lower class - but Amanda Marcotte, the blogger, grew up in rural Texas. Her views as an adult are not typical of the area she grew up in.

[tres bien]

There isn’t a MAGA in America that will accept the facts that Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square (and plenty of “republicans “ too)

They still insist the election was stolen and that for four years someone or other people were running the government 

When people are fed these insane lies 24/7 by their #1 source of news and believe them with a weird conviction then how’re the rest of us expected to get through to them. If they don’t hear news from those news sources it’s fake news

Looking at the democrats landscape today for 2028 it’s a desert. It’s almost like Joe Biden was the dems last chance of a white male candidate that is just a regular guy. The overall electorate seems to abhor any one of color, a female or a non straight person being fit to be president 

 

Edited Yest. at 10:25 AM by tres bien

[anony.miss]

13 hours ago, kittykat said:

Exactly I'm so sick of the double standards the parties are held to. .

Preach! MTG and Boebert screamed at three SOTUs - where were the right wing calls for censure due to respect for the office of the presidency? And can you imagine the level of right wing fury if AOC had been caught groping her date's genitalia in a theatre with kids in attendance?

 

Edited Yest. at 10:43 AM by anony.miss

[tearknee]

6 minutes ago, tres bien said:

There isn’t a MAGA in America that will accept the facts that Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square (and plenty of “republicans “ too)

They still insist the election was stolen and that for four years someone or other people were running the government 

When people are fed these insane lies 24/7 by their #1 source of news and believe them with a weird conviction then how’re the rest of us expected to get through to them. If they don’t hear news from those news sources it’s fake news

Looking at the democrats landscape today for 2028 it’s a desert. It’s almost like Joe Biden was the dems last chance of a white male candidate that is just a regular guy. The overall electorate seems to abhor any one of color, a female or a non straight person being fit to be president 

 

"Big picture" versus "for all of us" hurts marginalized politicians and activist leaders there.

Few voters anywhere in the anglosphere believe any claims that you will govern for Podunk, AR when you are going on about giving marginalized people fistfuls of cash as 'reparations' for something that is inchoate and incomprehensible to Struggle Street -- and most importantly, lots of cash that these majority of voters *know* that *they* won't be getting.

Thinking like an intellectual and not like a normal person who thinks with emotion is why things have got to this point (and also why Take Our Daughters to Work Day happened, and the Ms. Foundation's (that created it) intended -- and very much *wanted* parallel day for young boys, didn't.).

[tres bien]

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

We are about to get a new PM because Trudeau has resigned and March 9 is when the decision will come down as to which of the candidates will get the nod.  Much as I want a woman to win I am rooting for a guy, partly because I do think he's the best candidate but also because I think he's got the best chance of keeping Trump Light (Poilevre) out of the PMs office in the next election.  Because, yeah, we're a lot more like the US than we'd like to admit sometimes.

I sincerely hope the next Canadian PM has the balls to go face to face with Trump and tell him to go to hell

As your neighbor to the south in Minnesota we have a a kinship with our northern neighbor 

His constant bullying of Canada is so over the top crazy it practically makes my head explode 

This week the NYT reported that Trump signaled in trade talks with Trudeau that he was looking into annexing the Great Lakes and possibly eastern Ontario because he doesn’t believe that the 1908 treaty that set the boarder between the two countries was valid 

I’m sure he can’t achieve that with an EO and if it requires an act of congress probably 60 votes the chances of that happening are low. But the fact that he says these ignorant kinds of things every day the fact that the NYT and the like report these fever dreams by an incompetent man serving as president is unbelievable

Maybe while he holds court every day sitting behind the Resolute Desk disgracing the office and the country the press should go chase ambulances instead 

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

 

His constant bullying of Canada is so over the top crazy it practically makes my head explode 

This week the NYT reported that Trump signaled in trade talks with Trudeau that he was looking into annexing the Great Lakes and possibly eastern Ontario because he doesn’t believe that the 1908 treaty that set the boarder between the two countries was valid 

I’m sure he can’t achieve that with an EO and if it requires an act of congress probably 60 votes the chances of that happening are low. But the fact that he says these ignorant kinds of things every day the fact that the NYT and the like report these fever dreams by an incompetent man serving as president is unbelievable

 

The media reporting his insane ramblings with a straight face is a big problem.  There are people who aren't dialed into politics and current events the way all of us here are and when they hear about the ludicrous things he wants to do being reported like it's just a simple news story and not the delusions of the idiot in chief it gives it a serious consideration it doesn't deserve.

2 hours ago, tres bien said:

 

Looking at the democrats landscape today for 2028 it’s a desert. It’s almost like Joe Biden was the dems last chance of a white male candidate that is just a regular guy. The overall electorate seems to abhor any one of color, a female or a non straight person being fit to be president 

 

I would love for Sherrod Brown former senator from Ohio to run.  But he doesn't have a high profile outside of the tri state area. 

[tres bien]

Well hooray for Bernie who’s been on his fighting oligarchs tour!

[PRgal]

On 3/7/2025 at 5:54 AM, anony.miss said:

Trump's America:

"According to research from the University of Alabama, Alzheimer's disease disproportionately affects the Deep South, where states like Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina see significantly higher rates of dementia."

https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-states-highest-alzheimers-deaths-1968557

...he's conning the people who voted for him, who would have benefited most from the "transgender mice" studies.

This has me wondering:  are these states not only lower income on average, but have more so-called “food deserts?”  Nutrition plays a big role in lowering instances of dementia, they say.  
 

That said, I didn’t realize the US didn’t have an “official” language until maybe a few years ago, and I had to look it up to find out.  English and French are Canada’s official languages and it’s in our constitution. 

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

Per the BBC, a pro-Palestinian group has vandalized the president's Turnberry golf property. I don't approve of this sort of thing, but I understand it. Since he's loudly and proudly declared a desire to raze Gaza and turn it into a playground for the wealthy, actions such as this are bound to happen. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr52q7l6drdo

Edited 23 hours ago by Milk-Eyed Mender
Reworded for clarity

[Is Everyone Gone]

About ACB, she's pro-life, but she has voted several times in ways you wouldn't necessarily expect. For one, she voted to uphold a ban on conversion therapy. She was one of 4 dissenting justices in a capital punishment case.

In other words, she doesn't rubber stamp any MAGA talking point. So of course the MAGAs now hate her.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

18 million in 7 weeks? Does anyone have the phone number for DOGE?

[Dimity]

18 minutes ago, Bliss said:

On his first trip after retaking office to California, Nevada, and, ultimately, his Doral golf resort, reporters aboard Air Force One asked Trump if he would be playing golf on that trip. “No. I don’t think so. I’m busy,” he said.

Two days later, a Fox News reporter posted photos of him playing golf at his Doral course.

When even Fox news shows you up as a liar...

[tres bien]

4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

We told you. We all told you. 

Yes we did 💁

And I have no sympathy or feelings of empathy for any of them 

[Dimity]

It's International Women's Day - too DEI for the Trump White House to acknowledge or will they at least be going through the motions?

[Ohiopirate02]

24 minutes ago, Is Everyone Gone said:

About ACB, she's pro-life, but she has voted several times in ways you wouldn't necessarily expect. For one, she voted to uphold a ban on conversion therapy. She was one of 4 dissenting justices in a capital punishment case.

In other words, she doesn't rubber stamp any MAGA talking point. So of course the MAGAs now hate her.

Well technically, being a pro-life Catholic means from the womb to the tomb, and the Church is against capital punishment. She just may well be someone who read past the anti-abortion section. 

[Ohiopirate02]

4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

"Let's be clear on the facts," Richard Grenell, a Trump administration diplomat, said in a post via X. "Seller and Lin Manuel first went to the New York Times before they came to the Kennedy Center with their announcement that they can’t be in the same room with Republicans. This is a publicity stunt that will backfire."

The only poltiical stunt that will backfire is the purging of the Kennedy Center board and replacing it with Trump loyalists. Now they can have their own performing arts center for Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood to perform. Broadway still exists and people can still get their musical theater fix there  or catch a touring company in another city. 

[Makai]

3 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

Would ignoring the person who quoted the ignored poster prevent the ignored content from being displayed?  I'm going to try that.

Yes. There is another option that does require some work and vigilance when you are scrolling, Check the username on quoted posts before you read the content and if it someone you want to ignore hit the down arrow next to the quote heading and the quote will fold up. 

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

Yes we did 💁

And I have no sympathy or feelings of empathy for any of them 

Send them thoughts & tariffs. 

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

Peaches, those are brutal. Here is the perfect addendum to the last one, from columnist Doug Saunders, @dougsaunders.bsky.social

"I’d like to announce my forthcoming US history book, covering a decisive but tumultuous era in that country’s history, titled “The trade policies of the United States: 10:30 am to 1:30 pm on Friday, March 7, 2025” It will be 400 pages."