Chit-Chat: The Feels

[peacheslatour]

22 minutes ago, tres bien said:

His performance today at West Point is beyond words of disgust 

Is West Point obligated to invite the sitting president? This man should not be invited anywhere 

My heart breaks just knowing that these brave men and women are willing to die to protect our country and had to be subject to a madman’s sick pathetic bullshit

 

You mean the people he called "suckers" and "losers"?

[Absolom]

32 minutes ago, tres bien said:

My heart breaks just knowing that these brave men and women are willing to die to protect our country and had to be subject to a madman’s sick pathetic bullshit

Some of them voted for him, though.

[nokat]

4 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Some of them voted for him, though.

Those with enough weapons at home to kill anyone who doesn't fit their "ideal."

[bluegirl147]

34 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

You mean the people he called "suckers" and "losers"?

And the ones who will be expected to show up for his birthday parade.

[peacheslatour]

46 minutes ago, nokat said:

Those with enough weapons at home to kill anyone who doesn't fit their "ideal."

That's the joke. I know quite a few liberals and especially progressives who are quite well armed and trained as well. They just don't talk about it incessantly like conservatives do.

[ProudMary]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

They may be obligated to invite either the sitting president or VP. The 2024 speaker was Biden, and 2023's was Kamala. 

I think you're correct. J.D. Vance gave the Commencement address at the Naval Academy yesterday. 

[tearknee]

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That's the joke. I know quite a few liberals and especially progressives who are quite well armed and trained as well. They just don't talk about it incessantly like conservatives do.

But less willing to immediately open fire. That is exploitable.

[peacheslatour]

33 minutes ago, tearknee said:

But less willing to immediately open fire. That is exploitable.

You underestimate how pissed off people are. Fury can make the most peaceable man reach his breaking point.

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

Such a disgrace today at West Point. The President of the United States of America addressing our country's future military leaders while wearing a stupid campaign hat and babbling nonsense. 

And the GOP still has the nerve to act like they're the party that's all about "supporting the troops". 

[annzeepark914]

I looked at a photo of the cadets listening to Trump jabbering away about "trophy wives" & other nonsensical crap and wondered what they were thinking.  They sure got a reality check today re: the IQ and sanity of their Commander in Chief. 

[Affogato]

12 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

I looked at a photo of the cadets listening to Trump jabbering away about "trophy wives" & other nonsensical crap and wondered what they were thinking.  They sure got a reality check today re: the IQ and sanity of their Commander in Chief. 

But fortunately the transcript won’t be availlable, so Trump won’t have to be embarrassed 

[Lantern7]

I think that if the nation were to get into a war that could be considered morally unjust, there will be a lot of desertions. We’ve had some Presidents who were sketchy on a good day, but this is a man (loose definition) who sneers at the soldier even as he touts the force that he gets to command. Of course, desertion is a serious crime in itself, and I can see the possibility of the government moving from making the lives of immigrants a living hell to going after the families of soldiers who had enough. Yes, I think Trump and those under him would be that heinous to make that move.

Honestly, I don’t get why those that aren’t straight white guys would want to fight for their country when the President demonizes and denies them. It’s a no-win situation. Great for them to join up because I’ve probably never been fit (physically, mentally, emotionally) to join up, but why bother for an administration that shits on them?

[peacheslatour]

22 minutes ago, Affogato said:

But fortunately the transcript won’t be availlable, so Trump won’t have to be embarrassed 

True but the internet never forgets.

[Dimity]

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

True but the internet never forgets.

And thank god as well for late night talk shows.  Sometimes I feel like they're the only ones covering the craziness.

[shapeshifter]

24 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

True but the internet never forgets.

Introspection??
”Monte Carlo” does rhyme with “Mar-a-Lago.”

 

[Kemper]

Mother/Daughter lunch and shopping today in a large mall. While strolling, we noticed a new store had opened... "The Christian Store" ... I think that was the name. 

It resembled a small-scale Barnes and Noble. Soft music, muted colors; like a designer from HGTV had staged it. Beautiful diaries, journals; understated throw pillow covers, pretty jewelry.  I decided to look for a rosary; lost mine decades ago. (yes, lapsed Catholic speaking) The idea of fingering the  beads seems like a wonderful, calming thing to do in these times. I could not find any so asked the young man behind the counter. 

He seemed shocked and said "we don't have them" ... I stated that Catholics are Christian. He replied, again, "we don't have them" and that was that. Is it just me that finds that shocking? Are we undergoing a new version of Christianity? 

Edited 8 hours ago by Kemper

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, Kemper said:

The idea of fingering the  beads seems like a wonderful, calming thing to do in these times.

I have all my mother's rosaries, including one that was blessed by the Pope.  I too am a lapsed Catholic but I find saying the rosary to be very soothing.   Especially as you say right now.

3 minutes ago, Kemper said:

He seemed shocked and said "we don't have them" ... I stated that Catholics are Christian. He replied, again, "we don't have them" and that was that. Is it just me that finds that shocking? Are we undergoing a new version of Christianity? 

I was on a FB group and someone listed a few religions (I can't recall  now what the context was) anyway they posted something along the lines of "Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Catholic, Christian..."  A few of us pointed out that Catholics are Christian and she argued with us and refused to accept that this was true.  Wow.

[Absolom]

Most religious bookstores here are Muslim, Buddhist, Mormon, or Christian and the the Christian bookstores are split between protestant and Catholic.  I think I've been in one Christian bookstore that carried both protestant and Catholic items.

[peacheslatour]

47 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I have all my mother's rosaries, including one that was blessed by the Pope.  I too am a lapsed Catholic but I find saying the rosary to be very soothing.   Especially as you say right now.

I was on a FB group and someone listed a few religions (I can't recall  now what the context was) anyway they posted something along the lines of "Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Catholic, Christian..."  A few of us pointed out that Catholics are Christian and she argued with us and refused to accept that this was true.  Wow.

Jesus established St. Peter as the first Pope gave him the keys to the kingdom of heaven, symbolizing his authority. Britannica states that Jesus gave Peter the keys of the kingdom of heaven, often depicted in art and popular culture, which is why he is often depicted at the gates of heaven.  Is Jesus himself not Christlike enough for them?

[annzeepark914]

@Kemper I was going to click on the "mind blown" emoji but then remembered that as I was reading about this store, I sensed that it was an evangelical store. So I really wasn't shocked. In the late '80s, while walking in downtown Raleigh, a car passed by me. A bumper sticker on it said, "Christians Riding In This Car".  I told my mother about it, saying that people like this had finally ruined the word, Christian, for me. She was appalled that I felt this way, but just a few years later, she agreed.  

[ECM1231]

58 minutes ago, Kemper said:

He seemed shocked and said "we don't have them" ... I stated that Catholics are Christian. He replied, again, "we don't have them" and that was that. Is it just me that finds that shocking? Are we undergoing a new version of Christianity? 

Catholic here, but aren't Catholics the only religion that has/prays the rosary? Most of the religious stores that I have shopped in have catered more to Catholics than Protestant sects. Well, actually , now that I think about it, they were Catholic religious stores. Baptismal items, items for 1st Holy Communion, etc. These are big in the Catholic faith. I don't know enough about Protestantism to say whether or not they are regarded the same. So, perhaps that's the difference. There are Christian religious stores and Catholic religious stores, even though Catholics Are Christian. 

 

 

[nokat]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

And thank god as well for late night talk shows.  Sometimes I feel like they're the only ones covering the craziness.

For me it is Late Night with Colbert and the Daily Show. They show the crazy.

[Bastet]

3 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

I looked at a photo of the cadets listening to Trump jabbering away about "trophy wives" & other nonsensical crap and wondered what they were thinking.  They sure got a reality check today re: the IQ and sanity of their Commander in Chief. 

Statistically, it's likely the majority of them voted for him.  If they needed until today to get a reality check - which I don't have any hope their subdued response indicates - they're fucking idiots.

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

He seemed shocked and said "we don't have them" ... I stated that Catholics are Christian. He replied, again, "we don't have them" and that was that. Is it just me that finds that shocking? Are we undergoing a new version of Christianity?

I know just enough about religion to know I want nothing to do with it, particularly Christianity or Islam given their disproportionately destructive influence on society, but I know from a long history of following comedian Kathleen Madigan's (raised Catholic, still considers herself Catholic just more of origin rather than of a practiced faith, who travels the country extensively, cities of all sizes) stories it's typical for many non-Catholic Christians to regard Catholics as being as separate a religion as any other.  In school, I grew up with mostly Protestant, Jewish, and atheist/agnostic/vague belief but non-practicing kids, but my closest neighborhood friends were two sisters from a huge Catholic family, and they talked back then about the "I'm a real Christian" attitude they routinely got from others, so as an adult I was actually surprised when Madigan was surprised by the number of cities she visited in which people told her Catholics were not Christian.

[Soapy Goddess]

16 hours ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

No. That's me wondering why this administration and those who support it prioritize the health and welfare of a car - and by extension a billionaire's pocketbook - over the health and welfare and basic human rights of its citizens and the world at large.

Your belief that there's no way to hold an administration accountable once votes have been cast is incorrect. Impeachment and conviction and the 25th Amendment are there for any Republican in Congress or the Cabinent with a shred of respect for the Constitution and love of democracy to use. Protests, general strikes, a critical mass of the public voting with their dollars, are all options.  Whether there is a nationwide appetite for any of this remains to be seen. 

My POV is all about the violence that's become rampant in our country. No one begrudges your feelings...and no one is against protests. Peaceful protests. But none of them have been peaceful. They are filled with violence, not to mention pushing, shoving, threatening police, damage, destruction, fire, etc. constantly.

[Anela]

13 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

My POV is all about the violence that's become rampant in our country. No one begrudges your feelings...and no one is against protests. Peaceful protests. But none of them have been peaceful. They are filled with violence, not to mention pushing, shoving, threatening police, damage, destruction, fire, etc. constantly.

Like January 6th.

I was looking through some pictures I have saved, earlier, and one was of the man and his mother, who had zip ties, and were looking for Democrats, and Mike Pence. 

And this post by L. Lin Woods:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-lawyer-l-lin-wood-tweets-that-pence-executed-2021-1

They were not hired. They were not FBI, or Antifa. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Anela

[tres bien]

7 hours ago, Affogato said:

But fortunately the transcript won’t be availlable, so Trump won’t have to be embarrassed 

He will never be embarrassed by anything he says or does

Trump has no shame 

[PRgal]

8 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

I looked at a photo of the cadets listening to Trump jabbering away about "trophy wives" & other nonsensical crap and wondered what they were thinking.  They sure got a reality check today re: the IQ and sanity of their Commander in Chief. 

The volume was off when I saw it on CNN and I’m pretty sure the cadets were rolling their eyes.  I saw that some gave him a standing O but most sat still.  

[shapeshifter]

5 hours ago, nokat said:

For me it is Late Night with Colbert and the Daily Show. They show the crazy.

In addition to “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” and  “The Daily Show” (Jon Stewart, Ronny Chieng, Jordan Klepper, Michael Kosta, Desi Lydic), other excellent satirical sources of political news and commentary include:

• Seth Meyers’ “A Closer Look” segments 
• Jimmy Kimmel’s opening monologue
• John Oliver’s award-winning “Last Week Tonight”

 

[Affogato]

7 hours ago, Dimity said:

I have all my mother's rosaries, including one that was blessed by the Pope.  I too am a lapsed Catholic but I find saying the rosary to be very soothing.   Especially as you say right now.

I was on a FB group and someone listed a few religions (I can't recall  now what the context was) anyway they posted something along the lines of "Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Catholic, Christian..."  A few of us pointed out that Catholics are Christian and she argued with us and refused to accept that this was true.  Wow.

Many decades ago I was in a Lutheran church in Iowa. A missionary was telling is he had been stoned while doing his work. My family was horrified to here be had been trying to convert the heathen Catholics. But yes, a lot of prejudice in the midwest when I was there, growing up.