Chit-Chat: The Feels

[MostlyContent]

Google:

"Acquired brain injury (ABI) refers to any type of brain damage that occurs after birth. It can include damage sustained by infection, disease, lack of oxygen or a blow to the head. Two thirds of all people with an ABI who have their activity limited or restricted are over the age of 45."

[SoMuchTV]

5 minutes ago, fairffaxx said:

Google was no help for me either -- TBI is what I've always seen, not sure whether it's the same thing.  Initialisms & acronyms often throw me, I've only just  lately begun to accept NASA & DUI.....

IKR? (Sorry)

[mostlylurking]

On 11/19/2024 at 12:44 AM, Lantern7 said:

Here's the video for those who haven't seen it. Jon shares my frustration  about the Democrats. The opposing party is two months away from taking insurmountable power, and they are doing NOTHING about it. Where is the nobility of having the high ground if you're going to wind up not doing anything? "When they go low, we go high" doesn't cut it these days. Go below the belt. Set fire to the enemy. Set fire to yourselves. DO SOMETHING.

Add me to the list of frustrated people.  Stop trying to act like everything is business as usual.  And for the love of Mike STOP trying to justify this loss.  Just today I was watching news and the delusional pundits were grasping at straws saying Trump didn’t win by THAT much.   No one gives a shit!  It’s too late for taking the high road.  When they go low, which they do on the reg, we need to go LOWER. Burn everything to the ground.  And like you said JUST DO SOMETHING.

[Lantern7]

I'm still not feeling hopeful. Once again, my mind cycles through unrealistic fantasies, most of them involve 9 to 5-style torture. And yeah, I know Dolly Parton wouldn't condone Donald Trump getting hoe-tied. Well, not that much.

I need hope. I need a "dub" from the good guys. Juan Soto could sign with the Mets, and that wouldn't cheer me up that much. Damn, after the Mets lost the NLCS, I was feeling hopeful for their future. If you know about the Mets, you'd understand that's pretty hard to do without imagining any and all potential setbacks. This was back in October, where I was convinced Kamala could win the Presidency. Shows me what I know, right?

Here's a video I keep coming back to these days:

 

[tearknee]

4 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

Google:

"Acquired brain injury (ABI) refers to any type of brain damage that occurs after birth. It can include damage sustained by infection, disease, lack of oxygen or a blow to the head. Two thirds of all people with an ABI who have their activity limited or restricted are over the age of 45."

Like i said, abuse. And not just by mom.

[Lantern7]

One more video. This was put out during the first reign, and it feels something worth listening to. You have David Tennant doing his best to inspire hope. It's cool if your eyes get a little misty listening to him.

 

[MostlyContent]

2 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Like i said, abuse. And not just by mom.

I am so, so very sorry that happened to you.  From what you've posted, I figured it was f'ing bad.

I just wish that anything I could say would help.  

[Palimelon]

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the prison pipeline is quite an enterprise and it wouldn't surprise me if private prisons stand to make a lot more money from all these deportations. It's all a business to them.

The prison industrial complex is just as bad as the military industrial complex.

[Soapy Goddess]

18 hours ago, Dimity said:

But the MAGA crowd will literally give up their social security and their medical care and their children's futures and still feel that Trump is their messiah.  The others, the ones who voted - or claimed to vote - because "it's the economy" are the ones who may, possibly, wake up and realize they've been taken in by a snake oil salesman. 

But these aren't the ones who are going to be really hurt, and we all know that - what makes me so angry is that these people -- every single one who voted for Trump or who pulled a Pontius Pilate and didn't vote at all -- don't give a damn about refugees, migrants, immigrants, women or any of the many marginalized groups that now have targets on their backs thanks to the rise of Fascism in your country.

That is simply not true. You can't put everyone that voted for Trump in one general box. Without going into a long dissertation, allow me to share this. I take no credit, but it addresses some of the issues being tossed around:

 

14 hours ago, Dimity said:

I keep reading about some Trump voters having buyer's remorse

How can you have buyer's remorse when your package hasn't even been delivered yet?

[tearknee]

4 hours ago, MostlyContent said:

I am so, so very sorry that happened to you.  From what you've posted, I figured it was f'ing bad.

I just wish that anything I could say would help.  

As with the ICarly actress Ms. J McCurdy, my mom's dead. Most of the men who hurt (and forced me to do things) later are not. 

 

[Wiendish Fitch]

12 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Bless you.

 

I am so glad this is now part of my life.

[bluegirl147]

3 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That is simply not true. You can't put everyone that voted for Trump in one general box. Without going into a long dissertation, allow me to share this. I take no credit, but it addresses some of the issues being tossed around:

 

How can you have buyer's remorse when your package hasn't even been delivered yet?

But too many of them are.  And the ones that aren't don't seem to have a problem with the ones that are.  Yes these people existed before Trump but he gave them license to voice their hate and stoked it to his own ends.

[Annber03]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That is simply not true. You can't put everyone that voted for Trump in one general box. Without going into a long dissertation, allow me to share this. I take no credit, but it addresses some of the issues being tossed around:

 

How can you have buyer's remorse when your package hasn't even been delivered yet?

They still voted for a guy and a party that does feel that way, though. And his policies will make people suffer. We KNOW this, because we literally went through this with Trump just four years ago. 

And yet they still thought he was worth bringing back anyway. Again, the guy literally violently tried to overturn a democratic election. Those 70 million people, ust like the rest of us, all saw it happen. 

And they still voted for him again anyway. There is no excuse or justification for that. 

And people can have buyer's remorse once they see the batshit insane picks he's coming up with for his cabinet and realize just how much he is refusing to take his job even remotely seriously. 

Except, again, even if they're regretting their vote now, no sympathy. They knew exactly what they were getting with him, because he's acting no different than he did before. They don't get to act all shocked and surprised and regretful now. Not after so many people literally warned them how bad he'd be ahead of time. 

[Palimelon]

I just hope someone is there to take a pic of Don Jr's face when DT says in front on him to Elon Musk "You're the son I never had".

Also, is it just me, or has DT seemed to forget Vance is his VP-elect? I mean, in some ways, that could be a blessing in disguise, but still.

Edited Thursday at 01:38 PM by Palimelon

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Not after so many people literally warned them how bad he'd be ahead of time. 

Trump himself told us what he was going to do.  We all believed him. Did his base not believe him? Did they think they would be immune to his harmful policies? Harris said she wanted to make things better for all Americans, including those who weren't going to vote for her.  Trump said he was going to punish his enemies, meaning anyone who didn't support him.  So I guess his supporters thought that meant it was only those people who would have to pay higher prices and lose their health insurance and have family members deported. 

 

[Dimity]

43 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

We KNOW this, because we literally went through this with Trump just four years ago. 

For me what it comes down to with people who voted for Trump this time around are:

(1) Did they vote for him because they believed him when he said he won in 2020?

(2) Did they vote for him even though they knew he lost in 2020?

Either scenario is appalling to me but the second is even worse because that means they knowingly and intentionally voted for a man who tried to overthrow their government.

(3) They held their nose (so they say) and voted for Trump because "he can fix the economy".

These people are deluded.  The US economy is mirroring the world economy right now and time and good decisions will hopefully bring about improvements but people want simple solutions to complex problems and if you want simple, well I guess Trump is your man.

(4) They voted for him because he "hates all the people your relatives hate".

And these are the people saying things like the biggest problem facing America are transgender people...I can't even with these people.  Beyond contemptible.

Bottom line if you voted for Trump you voted against democracy.

Edited Thursday at 02:15 PM by Dimity

[fastiller]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

But too many of them are.  And the ones that aren't don't seem to have a problem with the ones that are.  Yes these people existed before Trump but he gave them license to voice their hate and stoked it to his own ends.

=&=

47 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

They still voted for a guy and a party that does feel that way, though. And his policies will make people suffer. We KNOW this, because we literally went through this with Trump just four years ago. 

 

"You may not be a racist, sexist, misogynistic, adjudicated sexual assaulter, convicted fraudster, but you voted for one."

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

They held their nose (so they say) and voted for Trump because "he can fix the economy".

This is what they say to make themselves feel better. Deep down they know it's not true. 

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

These people are deluded.  The US economy is mirroring the world economy right now and time and good decisions will hopefully bring about improvements but people want simple solutions to complex problems and if you want simple, well I guess Trump is your man.

A lot of these people are the people who bought his bibles. And his shoes. And now I hear he is selling guitars.  Yes really.  They see  him as some savior. He is going to save the economy. He is going to save us from socialists. And liberals. And brown people. And transgender people.  Bigger question is who is going to save us from him.

11 minutes ago, Dimity said:

And these are the people saying things like the biggest problem facing America are transgender people...I can't even with these people.  Beyond contemptible.

Same people who said same sex marriage would lead to people marrying their toasters. Most likely the same people who thought Haitian people were eating pets in Ohio. They are afraid of whatever Trump and by extension the Republican party tells them to be afraid of.

For anyone who has genuine religious faith this is not directed at you.  But for all the evangelical voters who voted for Trump I think they enjoy having someone tell them who to hate. It's probably the people they already hate but if Trump tells them to then that must mean they were right along. I mean these are the people who think there is going to be a violent bloody battle and all the non believers will be defeated right?   So to them Trump is their team leader.  And they are obedient if nothing else when it comes to their leader.

[Anela]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That is simply not true. You can't put everyone that voted for Trump in one general box. Without going into a long dissertation, allow me to share this. I take no credit, but it addresses some of the issues being tossed around:

 

How can you have buyer's remorse when your package hasn't even been delivered yet?

They voted for all of that.  And some are now concerned, after seeing who he’s promising jobs to. 

[Avaleigh]

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That is simply not true. You can't put everyone that voted for Trump in one general box.

The majority who voted for Trump know perfectly well what he's capable of and they voted for him anyway. It's frustrating and heartbreaking and in some ways it feels like hate won.

That being said, @Soapy Goddess is right that there are people who voted for Trump because they had valid concerns and thought he was their best option for having those concerns addressed. They aren't the majority, but they do exist and it is important to reflect on why the democrats lost certain people so that they can start winning elections again. 

One of my friends just had a baby. Her baby was about two weeks old when she voted for Trump. To be perfectly frank, she doesn't know much about politics. (I'm actually being kind here. She knows next to nothing.) She's the kind of friend you go shopping with and get makeup/workout/ selfcare/cooking tips from. She's a wonderful person she just doesn't really care about non pop culture current events including politics.

She's a Black woman who has had two family members be victims of crime this year alone. In addition to that she had to drive by the same two homeless encampments every day for years without any sign that things are going to change or get better. Keep in mind she's also not reading or watching real news. Just TikTok vids. She's the one I mentioned earlier who was watching those scare tactic vids on migrant caravans. I was surprised that she would even look at something like that, but apparently her sister started sharing those sorts of videos with her.

In her mind she voted because she thinks it's the best way to keep her baby safe. She also feels that she was better off financially under Trump. She doesn't understand the nuances regarding inflation and the pandemic. She's just going by her lived experience. 

She wasn't voting because she wanted to punish a bunch of marginalized people. She wasn't voting because she's in favor of racism or because she thinks Trump "won" back in 2020.

I explained a few of the reasons I couldn't vote for Trump. I didn't go into a whole tirade about it because I didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable. I just narrowed it down knowing that he's a liar and a terrible person. I doubt very much he's going to make things better and am pretty confident it will only get worse. I should have brought up January 6th, but it didn't seem like the right moment. 

Anyway, I mention all of this because I feel like there's a 5th category to the ones @Dimity mentioned. 

5) People who voted for Trump because they misguidedly think he will make their lives better. They don't know much about Trump or his policies apart from a few soundbites. They probably vaguely heard about him having legal troubles but figured they must not be that serious since he's still running for office. They weren't holding their noses while they voted for him because they really don't know much about him. 

If this election has taught me anything it's that there are *a lot* of uninformed voters in this country. 

[fairffaxx]

Uninformed voters is how Brexit came about.  Many of  those who voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union thought they were just participating in an opinion poll & were shocked to learn that their vote had actual consequences.  I was disgusted to learn that, & now it's happening here.

[bluegirl147]

22 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

If this election has taught me anything it's that there are *a lot* of uninformed voters in this country. 

Not just uniformed. Misinformed.  It's one thing to not know something. It's a different thing to believe something that is untrue and continue to believe it even when evidence is shown to prove it's untrue.  That is how Comet Pizza ended up being shot up by a crazy guy with a gun.

Edited Thursday at 03:49 PM by bluegirl147

[Dimity]

22 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

5) People who voted for Trump because they misguidedly think he will make their lives better. They don't know much about Trump or his policies apart from a few soundbites. They probably vaguely heard about him having legal troubles but figured they must not be that serious since he's still running for office. They weren't holding their noses while they voted for him because they really don't know much about him. 

If this election has taught me anything it's that there are *a lot* of uninformed voters in this country. 

It is shocking to me that adults who have lived through the last 8 years are still unaware of what Trump did, what he stands for and what he wants to do.  Saying these people are uninformed is just being way too kind. 

Edited Thursday at 03:48 PM by Dimity

[Avaleigh]

40 minutes ago, Dimity said:

It is shocking to me that adults who have lived through the last 8 years are still unaware of what Trump did, what he stands for and what he wants to do.  Saying these people are uninformed is just being way too kind. 

That's fair. I was trying to not be too harsh, but I agree. 

I also agree with @bluegirl147's point that it's people being uninformed combined with rivers of misinformation. That's what I mean when people are watching TikTok videos that are designed to put fear into people. 

I also think there are people who choose to remain ignorant about certain topics for their own peace of mind. They don't want to dwell on the stuff they can't control, so they tune out and just focus on what brings them joy. In some ways I wish I could be like that, but I feel like I want to continue to do my best to balance both worlds. I want to be reasonably informed, but I don't want this stuff to be the bulk of what I think about throughout the day. I feel like I'd get depressed that way.

I think this thread has been helpful for me to talk out everything I've been feeling since the election, so I thank everyone who has contributed to this conversation. It feels good to have a place to vent a bit about how we ended up here *again*. 

Edited Thursday at 04:29 PM by Avaleigh

[bluegirl147]

4 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

I think this thread has been helpful for me to talk out everything I've been feeling since the election, so I thank everyone who has contributed to this conversation. It feels good to have a place to vent a bit about how we ended up here *again*. 

It's also a good way for all of us to know there are like minded people.  Where I live I am surrounded by MAGA.  It's disheartening.  But this thread has given me hope we will someway come out of this.

[RealHousewife]

16 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Not just uniformed. Misinformed.  It's one thing to not know something. It's a different thing to believe something that is untrue and continue to believe it even when evidence is shown to prove it's untrue.  That is how Comet Pizza ended up being shot up by a crazy guy with a gun.

I could see that. There was a study many years ago that found Fox News watchers less knowledgeable than people who watched no news at all.

[Anela]

4 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

That's fair. I was trying to not be too harsh, but I agree. 

I also agree with @bluegirl147's point that it's people being uninformed combined with rivers of misinformation. That's what I mean when people are watching TikTok videos that are designed to put fear into people. 

I also think there are people who choose to remain ignorant about certain topics for their own peace of mind. They don't want to dwell on the stuff they can't control, so they tube out and just focus on what brings them joy. In some ways I wish I could be like that, but I feel like I want to continue to do my best to balance both worlds. I want to be reasonably informed, but I don't want this stuff to be the bulk of what I think about throughout the day. I feel like I'd get depressed that way.

I think this thread has been helpful for me to talk out everything I've been feeling since the election, so I thank everyone who has contributed to this conversation. It feels good to have a place to vent a bit about how we ended up here *again*. 

I have been chronically online, for years, and I hate it.  I’ve been trying to focus on other things. 

I feel the same way about this thread. It has been one thing that kept me away from spaces that are bad for me, because they are mostly MAGA. 

[bluegirl147]

13 minutes ago, Anela said:

I feel the same way about this thread. It has been one thing that kept me away from spaces that are bad for me, because they are mostly MAGA. 

Doom scrolling is a thing.  Not something I do.  The reality I see is enough. I don't need to go looking for more. I do think we need more places like this thread.  I don't know if right wingers are better at finding each other or if they have more time on their hands but overall I do think people who are more liberal/progressive have a harder time finding each other. Especially if you live in a red area. I have very few friends. Online and in real life.  For two reasons. One I prefer it that way and two I have dealbreakers.  And there were times I met someone and thought oh they seem cool I could hang with them and then they say something like Obamacare will be the death of us all.  It was an ER nurse that said that.

19 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

There was a study many years ago that found Fox News watchers less knowledgeable than people who watched no news at all.

I absolutely believe that.  I also think it has to do with how often people are exposed to Fox.  They don't just see it in their homes by choice.  I have seen it on in doctor's office waiting rooms (which makes me want to change doctors).  Restaurant/bars.  Nursing home common rooms.  

[tearknee]

Writing of nursing homes, I'm more concerned about TV and movies that seem to think old people are still complaining about "That Man in the White House" (FDR) or Truman and want to hear Glenn Miller or Benny Goodman. 

[Dimity]

14 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I also think it has to do with how often people are exposed to Fox.  They don't just see it in their homes by choice.  I have seen it on in doctor's office waiting rooms (which makes me want to change doctors).  Restaurant/bars.  Nursing home common rooms. 

Back when I lived in the city and took taxis a lot the common thing I found in almost every taxicab was that the drivers had their radios tuned to a very right wing radio station.  I was a captive audience and it was awful.   If those men (and yes it was always men for me) were listening to this hour after hour, day after day, it's no wonder they believe the things they do.

[tearknee]

14 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

Google was no help for me either -- TBI is what I've always seen, not sure whether it's the same thing.  Initialisms & acronyms often throw me, I've only just  lately begun to accept NASA & DUI.....

Woman: "My name's Mrs. Phillips. You said my husband is D.W.I.?"

Chief Wiggum: "Uh... why don't you talk to that officer over there? I'm going out to lunch!"

[bluegirl147]

6 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Back when I lived in the city and took taxis a lot the common thing I found in almost every taxicab was that the drivers had their radios tuned to a very right wing radio station.  I was a captive audience and it was awful.   If those men (and yes it was always men for me) were listening to this hour after hour, day after day, it's no wonder they believe the things they do.

In the early 2000s the company I worked for always had the radio set to a local easy listening/soft rock station.  September 12, 2001 that radio station started airing Rush Limbaugh.  All day long.  They did it for a couple weeks.  I remember thinking if this is what people are turning to in a time like this we are in big trouble. When they went back to regular programming one of their DJs said on air if he saw a Muslim he would spit on them.  That DJ is still a DJ in my area. He has been at every station I think.  I no longer listen to FM radio but when I did and I heard his voice I would change the station. 

[EtheltoTillie]

3 hours ago, Palimelon said:

I just hope someone is there to take a pic of Don Jr's face when DT says in front on him to Elon Musk "You're the son I never had".

Also, is it just me, or has DT seemed to forget Vance is his VP-elect? I mean, in some ways, that could be a blessing in disguise, but still.

Someone on CNN says that Vance is tasked with buttonholing the Senators for the confirmations.  Although I hate to use task as a verb.

[fastiller]

11 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Someone on CNN says that Vance is tasked with buttonholing the Senators for the confirmations.  Although I hate to use task as a verb.

Gonna veer into grammar-talk: I'm the same way with 'buttonhole' or 'buttonholing' as a verb.  And (not mentioned by @EtheltoTillie) the word 'ask' as a noun: "what's your ask here?"

[tearknee]

Sadly, you and I must sound like a broken MP3 about this (sorry, Prof. Farnsworth).

[fairffaxx]

Gaetz has withdrawn from consideration as Atty General.

[peacheslatour]

From CNBC, November 21 2024

 

Matt Gaetz said Thursday he is withdrawing his name from consideration as President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for U.S. attorney general.

“I had excellent meetings with Senators yesterday. I appreciate their thoughtful feedback - and the incredible support of so many,” Gaetz said in a statement posted on his X account.

“While the momentum was strong, it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump/Vance Transition,” said the former Republican congressman from Florida.

“There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle, thus I’ll be withdrawing my name from consideration to serve as Attorney General,” he said.

[PRgal]

Looks like he's quitting

Obviously guilty.....

[bluegirl147]

My guess is someone had the goods on him and threatened to release it.

[Avaleigh]

4 minutes ago, fairffaxx said:

Gaetz has withdrawn from consideration as Atty General.

Finally! Some good news!

[Anela]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Doom scrolling is a thing.  Not something I do.  The reality I see is enough. I don't need to go looking for more. I do think we need more places like this thread.  I don't know if right wingers are better at finding each other or if they have more time on their hands but overall I do think people who are more liberal/progressive have a harder time finding each other. Especially if you live in a red area. I have very few friends. Online and in real life.  For two reasons. One I prefer it that way and two I have dealbreakers.  And there were times I met someone and thought oh they seem cool I could hang with them and then they say something like Obamacare will be the death of us all.  It was an ER nurse that said that.

I absolutely believe that.  I also think it has to do with how often people are exposed to Fox.  They don't just see it in their homes by choice.  I have seen it on in doctor's office waiting rooms (which makes me want to change doctors).  Restaurant/bars.  Nursing home common rooms.  

Yeah, I have one longtime online friend, who lives thirty minutes from me, and I keep forgetting. After the election, she said that we should meet up, but I'm so used to being alone now, my social anxiety is dialed up to a million. Since my mum died, and she was mostly housebound for a few years before that (2016), not having a relationship with my sister, and her not being here since April 2017, I haven't had other women around me, since she was last here. One of mum's friends invited me to join a group that got her painting again, last year, but I was dealing with vertigo, and I forgot to get back to her. 

7 minutes ago, fairffaxx said:

Gaetz has withdrawn from consideration as Atty General.

That is good news. I love how you all posted at the same time. 😄

Edited Thursday at 05:54 PM by Anela

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

Finally! Some good news!

Meh, this does seem like Trump nominated him to simply make his other nominations more palatable and as a distraction. It also seems to have helped Gaetz keep the ethics report sealed.

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

It also seems to have helped Gaetz keep the ethics report sealed.

It will come out at some point. People hate Gaetz even Republicans in Congress.  

[Dimity]

6 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It will come out at some point. People hate Gaetz even Republicans in Congress.  

The expression punchable face is probably a little over used but honestly if it's true of anyone it is very much true of Gaetz.

[Spartan Girl]

YES!!!!! Smell ya later, Quagmire!

Come on, he DOES look like Quagmire 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[fastiller]

11 minutes ago, Anela said:

Yeah, I have one longtime online friend, who lives thirty minutes from me, and I keep forgetting. After the election, she said that we should meet up, but I'm so used to being alone now, my social anxiety is dialed up to a million. Since my mum died, and she was mostly housebound for a few years before that (2016), not having a relationship with my sister, and her not being here since April 2017, I haven't had other women around me, since she was last here. One of mum's friends invited me to join a group that got her painting again, last year, but I was dealing with vertigo, and I forgot to get back to her.

 

@Anela - please accept long distance hugs from someone you don't know.  I too have suffered from paralysing anxiety (social, general, whatever) since my husband died in 2013.  It took years to right itself & I was able to get out (was even able to get over to Ireland to see some friends/family in both '15 & '18).  It improved more and more and then BAM!!! - 45 & C19 in '19 & '20 brought it back.  And again, improvement (more trips to Ireland to see family/friends in '22 & '23 & '24) until the election earlier this month (and a bit from some still-undiagnosed health issues earlier this year) has it rearing its ugly head.  

I've had to force myself to get out*.  I've a couple friends who're going thru similar stuff.  We all force ourselves to get out.  And we forgive ourselves when we just can't.  Those undiagnosed health issues sent me to a gym & working w/ a personal trainer.  She helps keep me accountable to myself, so that's a help.

I hope you (& all of us really) are able to put any/all anxiety squarely where it belongs: your rear-view mirror.

*And sometimes, when it's just too much, I'm reminded of the opening lines of the song Sister Golden Hair:

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Well, I tried to make it Sunday, but I got so damn depressed
That I set my sights on Monday and I got myself undressed

 

[tearknee]

13 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

YES!!!!! Smell ya later, Quagmire!

Come on, he DOES look like Quagmire 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Smell you later is from a far older show and a far superior one :)

(Both me and SG are Simpsons watchers and love the show)

[PRgal]

Dude is SOOOOO guilty.  I don't get why he was at a party sounded like it was mostly younger people.  I mean, sure, he was still in his 30s when the party involving the assault of the underaged girls happened, but when I was 34 or however old he was at the time, I was already a married adult doing adult things.  Wild parties happened a decade ago.  That said, 17 year olds shouldn't be at wild parties either (saying this as a mom, of course).  But a 30-something at a wild party is way worse - especially when you're taking advantage of people.

[peacheslatour]

Just now, PRgal said:

Dude is SOOOOO guilty.  I don't get why he was at a party sounded like it was mostly younger people.  I mean, sure, he was still in his 30s when the party involving the assault of the underaged girls happened, but when I was 34 or however old he was at the time, I was already a married adult doing adult things.  Wild parties happened a decade ago.  That said, 17 year olds shouldn't be at wild parties either (saying this as a mom, of course).  But a 30-something at a wild party is way worse - especially when you're taking advantage of people.

It's creepy as hell. I partied hard as a teen and if my friends and I had some some old guy like that at one of our partys would have laughed at him. "Eew! What a weirdo!"

[EtheltoTillie]

He had already resigned his Congressional seat, so he is out of everything now.