S3 Ep07 & 08: I'm Coming Four You & Blood, Sweat and Returning Peers

[Gemma Violet]

The one person wins who I was hoping all season would not win.

[mertensia]

I don't mind the winner. 

Head wounds bleed a lot but that was still nasty-looking. 

It has occurred to me that part of the charm of the game is the attitude of the Jonas brothers, like okay there are guests in the house, but don't expect them to care.

[Lindz]

Wow. How shortsightedly STUPID!!! They targeted each other & let him win & control the rest of the game & lost for it. They should've agreed to get him out 1st, but no. Maybe Hud thought they were targeting Adam. & Mac thought they had him figured out & forgot about the winner controlling the end. The lazy guy having everyone give him all the info won. So comfortable & confident he basically announced his relative. 🙄🤷 I missed some episodes, how'd he know who their relatives were??? 😕 Did Shane guess wrong?

[Soapy Goddess]

55 minutes ago, Lindz said:

Did Shane guess wrong?

No. Someone guessed Shane's relative correctly.

[seacliffsal]

I still don't like the eliminated contestants coming back and helping/hindering.  But, even though they tried to hinder Adam, McKenzie and Hud are directly responsible for their loss as they targeted each other instead of Adam.  So, they allowed him to have all of the 'power' at the finale IMO.

I liked Shane, but wow did his wine cellar clue spell out who he was whereas other wine cellar clues weren't as clear.  

Overall, I enjoyed this season and am glad they announced a casting calls for another season.  Trying to think if I have any celebrity within my family tree and...nope-hopefully one of you other posters have a celebrity and we'll see you in season 4...

[Cosmocrush]

5 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I still don't like the eliminated contestants coming back and helping/hindering. 

I like it because it's another element of gameplay: how well you get along with the other players.   The returning players, like me, clearly weren't fans of Adam.  That said, consider how long your allies have been gone before trusting they know the answers.  

 

[Shrek]

Adam deserved the win in the end, he took matters into his own hands at the end by not giving anyone a chance to eliminate him by doing the guessing. Obviously not as dull as he was making out to be.

I thought I would hate this show & only caught bits of it originally but by halfway through found myself invested in who was related to who & that can only be a good thing for the producers as I can't be the only one.

 

[LakeGal]

I do not like that eliminated players can come back and help or hinder the final players.  The players that make it to the end should figure it out themselves.  Mackenzie did not know who Adam or Hud were.  Returning players had to tell her.  I do not think I would have liked it if she won for that reason.  I liked her.  But I wanted her to figure it out on her own.  By the end of the season the winner should know who their fellow players are if they deserve to win.  

Adam was not that well liked.  But I actually felt bad for him when everyone started to sit back and refuse to help him.  It was one thing to not help.  But some of them like Miguel were actually trying to screw with him.  I felt it was sour grapes because Adam made it to the end and they did not.  I never would have thought I wanted Adam to win.  But I found myself cheering for him at the end.  He did figure out who Hud and Mackenzie were.  That is what the show is about.  Nobody had to tell him anything during the show.  If they were mad they helped him that was on them.

I hope next season they do not let the eliminated players help anyone.  They should be brought back to watch the others play it out.  But they should not get to help or hinder the result.     

[seacliffsal]

Another thing about allowing eliminated players to come back for the finale-for many of them, being eliminated was strategy from those who felt the eliminated players knew who they were.  That is a valid strategy that lessens in value if the eliminated players want to 'punish' those who got them out.  It may be similar in structure to Survivor, but the results seem more damaging to the remaining players.  After all, Bianca figured out the clues, not McKenzie.

[GeorgiaRai]

I was VERY glad Mackenzie didn't listen to Hud & Shane in the first hour - I was afraid she would and it would backfire.  I liked her a lot and was happy she made it so far.

I love this show...up until the finale every season.  Revenge & sabotage aren't fun game play for me - nor is being outright handed an answer you didn't figure out on your own.  I wish they'd find a better way to include the eliminated players without giving them so much power.

Did any of the players ever figure out the last half of Trace's clue?  6'6" country singer who won The Apprentice!

Congrats to Adam!

Till next time, fellow Famers! Cheers!

Edited August 30 by GeorgiaRai

[tinkerbell]

When the eliminated players come back, I assume they have had the opportunity to use the internet to find out who everyone is.  Doesn't seem fair that they can share that info to help the ones still competing. Or lie, saying they looked it up.

I like Adam, and I wanted him to win because everyone else was working together to make him lose.

Edited August 30 by tinkerbell

[HerkyJerky]

3 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

When the eliminated players come back, I assume they have had the opportunity to use the internet to find out who everyone is.

Actually, they don’t. There is an article about how the eliminated players are sequestered until the final.

[Kleav]

Michael Bolton said Adam played with “integrity, determination and humility.” Well, he was determined. 

[tinkerbell]

7 hours ago, HerkyJerky said:

Actually, they don’t. There is an article about how the eliminated players are sequestered until the final.

Thanks. I had no idea.

[MsNewsradio]

3 hours ago, Kleav said:

Michael Bolton said Adam played with “integrity, determination and humility.” Well, he was determined. 

Yeah, there was a massive eyeroll in my house when that was read off. 

Hud and Mackenzie basically handed him the win. No one to blame but themselves for forgoing their initial plan to get him out and instead freaking out on each other. 

[seacliffsal]

19 minutes ago, MsNewsradio said:

Yeah, there was a massive eyeroll in my house when that was read off. 

Hud and Mackenzie basically handed him the win. No one to blame but themselves for forgoing their initial plan to get him out and instead freaking out on each other. 

Hud even stated that he thought their plan was to go after Adam but that Makenzie wasn't following that plan.  

I think bringing back the eliminated players actually discourages the players from trying to figure someone out because that would make them a threat to get out.  Makenzie really seemed to kind of 'float' to the end as she wasn't seen as a threat and Adam really didn't seem like a threat as he played kind of a 'buffoon' character throughout the season.  So, Makenzie makes it to the end and then is feed information about the relationships from eliminated contestants.  Seems counterintuitive to the show as they continually emphasize figuring everyone out which then actually leads to those trying to figure everyone out being eliminated and keeping those in who don't seem to have a clue.

[Grammy6]

If any of you want to find out more about Adam, just look up Adam Chrisopherson or just Adam on Claim to Fame.  Music helped him as he went through a difficult childhood, and he has an organization that uses music to help prisoners and people with other kinds of issues.  He is a music therapist also.  He seemed to be socially inept, and came across as a pain in the neck on the show, but I, for one, am glad he won.  In real life, he seems to be all about helping people.

[jabRI]

I like this show until the last few episodes. They give too many clues, so everyone knows who everyone is (or like Chris, they tell them!) so the only suspense is who is going to guess.  Would prefer if it was more like the Mole where you are kept guessing until the end.

Agree about Chris.  He seems awkward, but not ill intentioned.

[invisiblegirl12]

7 hours ago, Kleav said:

Michael Bolton said Adam played with “integrity, determination and humility.” Well, he was determined. 

Whenever I hear Michael Bolton's name I think "that no-talent assclown" from Office Space. This was no exception.

[peachmangosteen]

After kinda hating him for the first few eps, I ended up really enjoying Adam and I was definitely rooting for him in the finale. 

I think bringing eliminated contestants back to help or hinder the finalists in the final challenge is fine but I really don't like that they can then just tell the finalists the celebrity relatives of the others. That part just seems so stupid to me. But I think they probably do it to mitigate the possibility that none of the finalists would know who the others were, which definitely seemed like a real possibility with this group lol. 

Although, it seemed like Adam might have figured Hud and McKenzie out on his own. He even missed a lot of the final party where everyone was giving Hud and McKenzie the answers. It's hard to tell what really happened though. I feel like edit leaves so much out.

Edited August 31 by peachmangosteen

[jabRI]

Adam had figured Hud out based on clues, and referred to the  nickname Cougar.  Also  had Mackenzie figured out for a while.

[ASpring1900]

On 8/30/2024 at 3:23 PM, invisiblegirl12 said:

Whenever I hear Michael Bolton's name I think "that no-talent assclown" from Office Space. This was no exception.

Whenever I hear Michael Bolton's name I think of the SNL Digital Short "Jack Sparrow." When I saw the clue "The Lonely Island", I knew it had to be MB.

 

[Taeolas]

I don't follow celebrity news much, but when Michael Bolton appeared on Masked Singer a few years back (a couple seasons I think wasn't it?), I rememeber mentioning at the time that he didn't look well.

Then he only had a picture instead of a video for the reveal here, which confused me a bit, because I know I would have heard if he'd passed away. 

 

I'm glad the show clarified that he was just getting (some scary!) brain surgery done! Glad he seems to be recovering fine at least. 

 

As for the ep itself, I agree there were too many clues in play, but I suspect they want the final challenge to be the main decider and not the final guessing (unless you're REALLY bad at names). 

 

I wonder if Adam's injury was another factor as well. It seems wrong to me that they let MacKenzie and Hud socialize so much while Adam was in the hospital. They should have kept the active players separate for the afternoon until Adam could return and then do the group socializing when all three were together. 

[KerleyQ]

I laughed when it became clear Adam was going to win. I knew that some of the others must have been seething, since they were all so focused on getting rid of him. And, to be fair, I absolutely get why he annoyed them, but, to his credit, other than seeing clues others got (which everyone does), he really did figure out both Mackenzie and Hud on his own. And I think he's known Hud since around mid season. We did have a scene after a Hud clue where Adam seemed like he knew, but I think they edited out him definitively knowing, because it was part of the role they had him slotted in to not know anything until he comes out as the surprise winner in the end. I do think he lucked out that he got to the finale with these two people. He knows some genres of music, and their relatives happened to fall into his general area of knowledge. 

Mackenzie and Hud definitely screwed themselves over by going after each other. I think that Mackenzie kind of got in her own head with the previous elimination, where she correctly guessed that Shane was setting her up, and she couldn't decide for sure if Hud had been in on it or not, so she couldn't just go along with him after that. 

For me, the most annoying person this season was Naomi. She whined in the first episode about Gracie being a good singer. And she decided she was the brains of the house at some point, to like an aggressive degree, which is always annoying. It seems like we get one cast member like that every season, and it delights me when they get sent home. I think my favorite part of this season was Hud telling the camera that he'd seen her clue before the person who had it was sent home, and he knew who she was, which led to him telling Adam.  Second most annoying was Miguel. He's been holding a grudge because Adam didn't believe his Banderas fake out? Yeah, dude, you were lying, and not everyone bought it. That's kind of how this whole show works. 

Usually, in the finale when they bring back the booted cast members, the obnoxious ones seem pretty watered down since they no longer have a shot at the win. Even Carly who threw a big dramatic shit fit in season 2's first episode seemed fine when she came back to help in that finale. But Naomi and Miguel?  Same as they were before being booted. Naomi was so obnoxious about her (completely wrong) guess about Hud, talking down to Mackenzie who, spoiler alert, Naomi, has been in the house longer and has had access to more clues than what you've seen. And Miguel fucking with Adam during the last challenge was a dick move. 

And Danny was someone who I was mostly fine with while he was in the house, but the second he was eliminated, he told everyone Mackenzie's clue, which was super shitty. And then he was, I think, the first one to say they should sabotage the final three after Kevin and Franklin explained their roles to them when they were brought back. Dude, you're out, you can't win anymore, and nobody screwed you over, you just guessed wrong.  

The biggest surprise of this season was that the winner was someone who guessed the last two people correctly. With how bad the guesses were all season, I was sure that whoever won would win by someone incorrectly guessing their relative.