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S11. E8: Peaks and Valleys


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Tom Sandoval just says the words, there is no actual meaning or sincerity behind them.  Yay for Katie not accepting his "apology".  Tom clearly thinks there's been enough time between the shit hitting the fan and now - he's done enough "grovelling".  What a pig.  He and Schwartz deserve each other.

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Jax: Hello! I was walking by this bar when I heard you talking and decided to come in and start a fight with Sandoval! Nice to see you all, now it's time to walk home to ... THE VALLEY". 

12 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

I'm totally enjoying Jax going off on Sandoval.  

OMG, I totally misparsed that as something TMI! 😲

 

14 hours ago, snarts said:

Watching Sandoval flirt was hella cringeworthy, just like all his paid for friends. 

Like Billi Lee, mugging for camera time... [eye roll]

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5 minutes ago, princelina said:

What I learned from this episode is that Jax was indeed fired for calling it "his show" 😂

I thought it was because there was an uproar when Stassi and Kristin were let go and yet Jax, who was not only a walking misogynist turd but he also had posted similar racist shit and lies about Faith (I think he claimed she was AWOL from the military or something) was unharmed so Bravo fired him.  But Bravo might have been waiting for the opportunity after that remark.

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19 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

I thought it was because there was an uproar when Stassi and Kristin were let go and yet Jax, who was not only a walking misogynist turd but he also had posted similar racist shit and lies about Faith (I think he claimed she was AWOL from the military or something) was unharmed so Bravo fired him.  But Bravo might have been waiting for the opportunity after that remark.

Yeah that's what they said - but I never believed it 😃

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Scheana is absolutely insufferable.  What a complete narcissist.  

Sandoval/Scott Peterson Jr is a joke.  Scenes with him just feel like comedy to me at this point.  He seriously thinks he will be able to fool people with his “acting”.   Nobody thinks you’re remorseful, nobody thinks you haven’t already been dipping your toe into the dating pool and nobody thinks you genuinely shed a tear over Rachel.  

Blecch.  

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10 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

I'm totally enjoying Jax going off on Sandoval.  

I would like to agree with this, but I more thought that it's a meteor/fork in the eye situation.  If you (plural) are siding with Jax, there's something very wrong, and if the alternate option is to side with Sandoval, just throw yourself into the La Brea tar pits and be done with it.

Also, Jax popping up out of nowhere was about the fakest of fake fakiness every to have been faked on this show.  And they didn't care or hide it!  He walks off Vanderpump RIGHT INTO HIS OWN SHOW.

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9 hours ago, princelina said:

Yeah that's what they said - but I never believed it 😃

It was convenient for sure.    Especially since I had forgotten about LVP’s reaction to it and the other shit he’d gotten away with.  

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Scott Peterson. Didn’t he murder his wife?

Allegedly.

 

One step forward, two steps back.

Sandoval- I believe once 12 people convict you, you can drop the “allegedly.”

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7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I guess Scheana was referring to A-lister John Mayer?

Scheana allegedly didn’t have sex with John Mayer, but participated in an orgy adjacent to John Mayer? But Brock was there?! Brock has only been in Scheana’s life for a few years. Or maybe that was a different orgy? Allegedly.

ETA: Apparently before VPR, Scheana was in a throuple with John Mayer and some girl from The Hills?!? Soooo… It was a different orgy Brock participated in? 

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1 hour ago, Carolina Girl said:

Sandoval- I believe once 12 people convict you, you can drop the “allegedly.”

Not as an argument, just as an FYI: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-12/scott-peterson-in-a-court-as-la-innocence-project-pushes-for-dna-testing-and-missing-reports

If it was just Peterson, sure, whatever.  But the Innocence Project are not a fly-by-night operation. 

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14 hours ago, Ladybugnine said:

What happened to Summer's arm? She's wearing a cast!

In the previous episode,  Schemer said Summer broke her arm while playing at home. Naturally,  Schemer seemed more concerned about the color of her cast. 🤷‍♂️

 

11 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

I loved Katie not accepting Tom's apology. He has always been a jerk to her.

Any goodwill Katie gained was lost by her being a bitch. I'm not sure who acts more aggrieved ,  Katie or Arianna.  

 

10 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

ACTING!!!  (TM Master Thespian, SNL)

Sandoval, dear sir, is a MACTORSICIAN!

 

5 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Why is Sandoval still apologizing to people he didn’t cheat on? He needs to stop the crying and stop mentioning Rachel. I don’t give a fuck about fucking Raquel!

I'm bored with it too, but have to remind myself this filmed six month ago, when it was relatively recent.  

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What a nothing burger  episode. I'm tired of Tom feeling sorry  for himself,  and no more apologies,  if they don't  forgive you,  they don't. 

Jax, he makes me feel like I need a shower, he always  has though. He's really  overdone  the botox.  The whole world Jax?  It has much larger  problems  than Tom's infidelity for heavens sake.

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2 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

What a nothing burger  episode. I'm tired of Tom feeling sorry  for himself,  and no more apologies,  if they don't  forgive you,  they don't. 

Jax, he makes me feel like I need a shower, he always  has though. He's really  overdone  the botox.  The whole world Jax?  It has much larger  problems  than Tom's infidelity for heavens sake.

Said Jax who claimed his life was perfect, and then it imploded a few months after. What a hypocrite.

3 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Any goodwill Katie gained was lost by her being a bitch. I'm not sure who acts more aggrieved ,  Katie or Ariana.

Katie, of course!

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5 hours ago, Lassus said:

Not as an argument, just as an FYI: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-12/scott-peterson-in-a-court-as-la-innocence-project-pushes-for-dna-testing-and-missing-reports

If it was just Peterson, sure, whatever.  But the Innocence Project are not a fly-by-night operation. 

Let's not forget that Peterson drove to San Francisco Bay to "fish" the day his wife disappeared (and that's where she was found months after), he bought the boat just before the disappearance, and he told his affair he was a widower a few months before his wife disappeared/was killed. Among other things.

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Of course no one is forgetting -- especially not the Innocence Project. But there are apparently also some other aspects and details, mainly DNA, that may show that those things (which don't look great but are by no means absolute proof of murder), don't have anything to do with it. It's possible that he's merely a nasty bag of dicks (like Sandoval, haha!) and not a murderer. 

I still find Jo very annoying, but I also feel bad if people are being unnecessarily nasty to her. That said, I have no idea whether it's "unnecessarily." 

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53 minutes ago, princelina said:

Gross 😖. Don't brag about that Scheana!!!

True, but it's less disgusting (to me anyway) than when she bragged about being double teamed by professional basketball players in her early LA days -- as though people would ADMIRE her for it. I pity Summer Moon when she learns about her mother's "Scheananigans."

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I learned from After Show viewers that Sandoval was also hoping that DWTS would invite him to compete.

Ronnie and Ben joke that if Ariana were a better friend to Scheana, she would have declined the DWTS invitation and suggested they ask Scheana instead. (More or less. They reference Lala, too, but I don’t feel like describing all of that.)

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I think it is time for the Vanderpump Rules saga to have some kind of happy or unhappy ending.  The show is quite boring this season, and there is nothing that can or will outdo the ridiculous drama of last season's Scandoval.  Actually, last season, before the whole affair storyline, the show was boring then, too.

So, while I'm watching and trying to stay awake, I start focusing on background things - like trying to figure out the layout of Scheana and Brock's townhouse, that seems super tiny, checking out the weird decor in Schwartz's apartment, the absolute "Wayfair-ness" of James and Ally's house, etc.  

However, what struck me hard this week is the absolute messiness of Sandoval and Ariana's house.  I get they are in the middle of a very contentious parting of the ways and dividing households, but those two are both kind of slovenly.  Both their bedrooms are a hot mess, with clothes strewn all over every surface and piled in corners on the floor.  Closets are cluttered and hodgepodge.  Bathrooms have hair product, makeup and other health and beauty aides taking up all possible counter/sink vanity space.  Sandoval's duvet cover had buttons missing and the duvet looked like it was shredded and the filling falling out.  It doesn't look like Ariana ever makes her bed, either.  

Downstairs, the same pile of boxes has been in the same place every time any scene is filmed there, since the first episode.  Even though they have "Ann", who Sandoval claims is part assistant/part housekeeper, the kitchen looks sloppy and dirty.

These two are not college kids living in an off-campus rental, away from home for the first time in their lives.  They are supposed "mature" adults [who act like children] who should have some sense of cleanliness and organization by this time in their lives.

Just adds to the "messiness" of their lives, in my opinion.

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