S45.E12: The Ex-Girlfriend at the Wedding LIVE CHAT

[LadyChatts]

I'm surprised Austin doesn't throw this since he has his idol that he can use.  He can't use it after tonight.

[Lady Calypso]

And Dee wins! I'm ok with it; not that she's in any danger.

[Michichick]

Austin would be a fool not to use his amulet. Why take a chance when it can’t be used after tonight anyway?

[iMonrey]

I'm finding it hard to root for Dee, and I'm not sure why. I think a lot of it has to do with editing because she seemed way too cocky way too early in the game.

[Lamb18]

Good, Dee won!

[LadyChatts]

Just now, iMonrey said:

I'm finding it hard to root for Dee, and I'm not sure why. I think a lot of it has to do with editing because she seemed way too cocky way too early in the game.

I have a love/hate relationship with her.  She's annoyed me tonight, but I don't dislike her, either.  I can't tell if she thinks she's better than everyone or is really playing this masterful game where she's pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.  Which is kind of true but I think kind of not, too.

[ponygirl]

Drew is a poor loser

[Haleth]

That was a grueling challenge. Standing on one leg for that long, holding the other leg in the air?  I never liked Dee until now. 

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, iMonrey said:

I'm finding it hard to root for Dee, and I'm not sure why. I think a lot of it has to do with editing because she seemed way too cocky way too early in the game.

I get that. I think, for me, the reason why I like Dee and fight a bit harder to defend her because we've had plenty of cocky men in Survivor and many of them have been well liked. I don't see Dee's behaviour being different than any of those past players who are liked, but I fully see why people do not like her. I guess I don't mind because she's one of the few women who have been able to successfully dominate and not be targeted for not being meek or a follower or invisible. 

[iMonrey]

I think I just lack enthusiasm for any of the four Reba because they've been running the table for so long. It will probably come down to Katurah this week. There just aren't any real surprises anymore.

[Carey]

I can take or leave Dee.  There's nobody this season that's lovable enough to care about anyway.  Furthermore, no one did anything to wreck anything on her end

[Haleth]

2 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

It will probably come down to Katurah this week.

I think the shot of her ball rolling into the ocean was artistic foreshadowing. Still, I wish they’d blindside Austin. 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Haleth

[LadyChatts]

2 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I get that. I think, for me, the reason why I like Dee and fight a bit harder to defend her because we've had plenty of cocky men in Survivor and many of them have been well liked. I don't see Dee's behaviour being different than any of those past players who are liked, but I fully see why people do not like her. I guess I don't mind because she's one of the few women who have been able to successfully dominate and not be targeted for not being meek or a follower or invisible. 

She lost points for me for getting with Austin lol-but at the same time, I don't know that she has the same type of loyalty to him that he has to her.  I think Dee is very much looking out for the best interest of her game, and I can appreciate that.  And I think she's been playing more of a strategic game which I like, because I hate social gamers.  I do think she comes across more cocky than she's probably earned, but you raise a very good point about the double standard.

Edited December 14, 2023 by LadyChatts

[Straycat80]

For once I’m not a fan of anyone left right now. Maybe Julie or Austin. 
And it would be awesome if they blindsided Drew.

[LadyChatts]

So Jake thinks he's planning a blindside that was actually already in the works.  He basically did the work for Julie and Dee to get the votes they needed for Drew.

[iMonrey]

Austin certainly hasn't lost any muscle tone out there, I'll give him that.

[Quilt Fairy]

I didn't realize until now that Julie is a lawyer.  That makes 3 out of the remaining 6 are lawyers. 

[willco]

Why do I have a feeling that it won't be Drew ? I think it's misdirection. Although I'd love it t be Drew !

[Lady Calypso]

2 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

She lost points for me for getting with Austin lol-but at the same time, I don't know that she has the same type of loyalty to him that he has to her.  I think Dee is very much looking out for the best interest of her game, and I can appreciate that.  And I think she's been playing more of a strategic game which I like, because I hate social gamers.  I do think she comes across more cocky than she's probably earned, but you raise a very good point about the double standard.

It all depends how she handles adversity with Austin in this endgame. She's now voicing potentially blindsiding Austin, so if she does that, then I think I can get past this annoying showmance.

[LadyChatts]

Wow, Julie/Dee's relationship really is the best kept secret out there.  I guess Dee's a better actress than I thought.  Jake and Katurah don't realize that taking Julie and Austin to the final 5 is going to be a really bad idea, since Dee is tight with Julie and Austin.

[Carey]

Just now, LadyChatts said:

3 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I get that. I think, for me, the reason why I like Dee and fight a bit harder to defend her because we've had plenty of cocky men in Survivor and many of them have been well liked. I don't see Dee's behaviour being different than any of those past players who are liked, but I fully see why people do not like her. I guess I don't mind because she's one of the few women who have been able to successfully dominate and not be targeted for not being meek or a follower or invisible. 

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She lost points for me for getting with Austin-but at the same time, I don't know that she has the same type of loyalty to him that he has to her.  I think Dee is very much looking out for the best interest of her game, and I can appreciate that.  And I think she's been playing more of a strategic game which I like, because I hate social gamers.

To be fair, this year's competition is average at best, generously speaking.  Yes other folks, mainly men have dominated in the past, but their competition was a lot better, and those were longer seasons.

Dee can only play who's on the season, but I think I might respect people like Parvati and Lacina instead.  However, she's playing a very good game which I can't say about anyone else at this point.  As mentioned, I can take her or leave her; it's Survivor

[Lantern7]

Half-expecting Jake to keel over while he’s talking strategy.

[LadyChatts]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

It all depends how she handles adversity with Austin in this endgame. She's now voicing potentially blindsiding Austin, so if she does that, then I think I can get past this annoying showmance.

I'm wondering if she's really going to blindside him.  Because if so, that is a great play when he told her about Julie (and ruined that blindside), but she's not telling him about Drew.

[iMonrey]

All four Reba have benefited from poor game play by others who could have, and should have taken a shot at them when they had the chance. Too many people have helped them get this far.

[truthaboutluv]

Oh Jake - so convinced he's engineering a blindside that everyone but Austin had already planned to do anyway. 

Also, that scene of Katurah and Dee suggests that Katurah may be a bit closer to Dee than Jake realizes. 

[dizzyd]

Stfu Drew! Today is going to be a good day because I making it manifest that Drew is out and one of 3 amazing teams is going to win TAR.

[Lamb18]

I hope the plan to oust Drew works! He's due a downfall, plus I think he could use a cheeseburger.

[LadyChatts]

This Drew vote does seem too easy.  The show is really cutting deep by giving Drew this cocky edit in the same episode where he talked about being picked last on the playground if he does get voted off.

I'm actually hoping she doesn't tell Austin.  

Edited December 14, 2023 by LadyChatts

[Lady Calypso]

4 minutes ago, Carey said:

To be fair, this year's competition is average at best, generously speaking.  Yes other folks, mainly men have dominated in the past, but their competition was a lot better, and those were longer seasons.

 

I think there's been some decent players, and I think at least we've seen Dee's strategy behind some moves. I think, even on another season with some better players, she could still do well. I don't want to discredit Dee because it's not like she's floating or stumbling into good gameplay; she really is putting in the work and I do think it could work in other seasons. It helps the men underestimate her instead of feeling threatened by her, which is something dominant women on Survivor run into more often than not, but that's something she can't really help.

I think she's managing her threat level fairly well. She SHOULD be a threat since she's been vocal in her plans, but even her own allies underesimate her. Part of it is definitely bad players, but part of it is her doing a good job. I mean, if Emily and Kaleb didn't really see Dee's threat level or see it in the way they should have, that should be a big sign that she's not doing a terrible job.

Look at how Katurah ran straight to Dee to tell her about the plan. I feel like that counts for something.

But I just like strategic gameplay, especially when it comes from women.

[momlyd]

Dee!! 

 

Play YOUR game! 

 

Sheesh, girl

[Lamb18]

Don't tell Austin, Dee!! You're not married to him. It won't matter in a few days.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Lamb18

[Quilt Fairy]

1 minute ago, Lamb18 said:

plus I think he could use a cheeseburger.

At least he's wearing his slacks now so I don't have to look at his scabby legs.  Guy's a poor healer. 

[truthaboutluv]

I am curious to see Austin's face from his couch watching this edit and how it played out. Because chile, he looks like a straight up chump. Fucked up an easy blindside by telling Dee and now she may help engineer the blindside of his other number 1. 

[willco]

Is it early to go to tribal ? Maybe there is a 3-3 split ?

[LadyChatts]

1 minute ago, willco said:

Is it early to go to tribal ? Maybe there is a 3-3 split ?

I was just thinking that.  This Drew vote seems too easy so I'm wondering if there's an idol play or there's another blindside coming.  

Edited December 14, 2023 by LadyChatts

[Straycat80]

Just now, willco said:

Is it early to go to tribal ? Maybe there is a 3-3 split ?

Not really, remember there has to be 50 more commercials.

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, willco said:

Is it early to go to tribal ? Maybe there is a 3-3 split ?

Not really. There's 15 minutes left. If they draw out Probst's questioning to hype up the tension, it could still end up being an easy vote. 

If Drew is blindsided, I can't wait for the jury's reaction. I have a feeling they're going to love that one. 

[LadyChatts]

Yeah, this is pretty early for TC to start.  I wonder if we'll see a game of telephone (please no), maybe some conflict and then a cut to a commercial.

As a side note, I like that the jury isn't entirely all smiles this season.  I hope we get some bitterness.

[Carey]

Just now, LadyChatts said:

Yeah, this is pretty early for TC to start.  I wonder if we'll see a game of telephone (please no), maybe some conflict and then a cut to a commercial.

Or Bruce & Emily will violate Survivor law to give their 14 minutes of their own thoughts, which might result in this episode actually being TO BE CONTINUED

[Lantern7]

C’mon, vote out Drew already!

[dizzyd]

Talking about showmances, is there one between Kaleb and Kellie?

[mojoween]

The jury is totally telegraphing Dee is winning if she gets to the end.

My issue with Dee is that she smirks, not smiles.

[dizzyd]

2 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

C’mon, vote out Drew already!

I think it will be more satisfying to listen to Drew pontificate about how great he is, the blindside will be so rewarding.

[LadyChatts]

I know Dee can't be voted for tonight, but I'm still amazed no one seems to view her as a threat.  I feel like her name came up early on and then never again.

[Carey]

1 minute ago, mojoween said:

The jury is totally telegraphing Dee is winning if she gets to the end.

My issue with Dee is that she smirks, not smiles.

Meh.  It goes both ways.  You're not wrong about that.  On the other hand, I sorta enjoy a so-called "villain" if you'd call her one

[mojoween]

Sifu tried to get Dee out, didn’t he?

[Lantern7]

. . . and we’ll be getting three hours of this next week. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Lady Calypso]

Austin is wasting his amulet just to have a flashy move, I guess? But, like, no votes are going to Austin so it just looks pathetic.

[LadyChatts]

Drew seems very confident.  I really hope we find out if Dee told Austin.  It doesn't mean Austin will play his idol for him, but he acts like he has no clue what might be coming (if it is Drew).

[willco]

It should be Drew, but will it be ??