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Cameron: “I’ll let Jared take a crack at the puzzle!” *CBS hurriedly replaces 50 piece slide puzzle of Machu Picchu at night with a Fisher Price shape sorter *

Mediocre Gatsby
Mediocre Gatsby

I appreciate her ability, but it's not entertaining for me. If I want to watch someone sit on a bed in a bathrobe for 20 hours a day, I have mirrors for that. 

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I tend to not post in the episode threads because I can never keep track of what is episode vs feeds, and don’t want to upset the mods. But I really wanted to punch Jared listening to his bullshit wit

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blixie

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This is also the kind of thing that freaks Cirie out she has no control of it being last minute reveal, now why Cam didn't tell her Cirie is one of the votes against her I do not know.

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Felicia just assumed she was safe for NO REASON up until now?

Well tbf she was stuck in the kayak with Cirie so like trapped virmly in the mists an unable to campaign even IF she thought she was in danger.

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Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin

Just now, blixie said:

This is also the kind of thing that freaks Cirie out she has no control of it being last minute reveal, now why Cam didn't tell her Cirie is one of the votes against her I do not know.

I honestly think it's obvious enough that he shouldn't have to tell her.

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Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin

Just now, blixie said:

She just told Jag she has Cirie/Matt/Jared/Bowie/Meme, and Cam was just snowed himself so like be explicit with everyone.

Okay, that's disappointing. In that case, yes, be more explicit, Cam. By the way, Felicia WHY do you think you have Cirie and Jared over Izzy? What gives you that impression? 

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blixie

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She has literally plotted against them because she didn't feel locked in. And her next convo is with the Mists of Cirie. And you know I get it no one wants to believe someone has played them like fool ass fiddle but c'mon!

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Brian Cronin

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2 minutes ago, Gummo said:

I'm still hoping they vote out Izzy, and that she responds by spilling The Secret.

I think there's no way she ever spills unless she's, like, in the Final Three or some shit (man, PLEASE don't do a Final Three this year). 

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blixie

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Oh god, Cam is trying to convince Jared: "If you think you're in with any of them (Cirie et al) you're not as smart as I thought." I literally laughed out loud. I know I know rigged but I hate Cam so. LOL.

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Lamb18

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17 minutes ago, kellog010 said:

Cam told Felicia shes going home. Felicia has been activated. 

I can't help wondering if Cam is playing a two-handed game. One on hand he tells Felicia she's going, but with the other hand he's assembling a group to vote out Izzy. He may be working in tandem with Jag, per his conversation last Friday.

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I hope that's it Lamb18, but the fact he's working so hard to turn Jared away from Izzy and has implied he knows it was Jared who destroyed the Chilbillies, means he is desperate to team back up with Jared. And he will. Cause he sucks. I hope I'm wrong but he wants a bro down so bad he hates being stuck with a woman who shows she's smarter than him and guys who wear pink.

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Meme is now trying to put the pieces together. 

Again does Meme know? Or were they planning to tell both tonight? If she doesn't know that's one more vote in the basket and then Cory can vote for his own game and they can try to pin America's vote on Matt and/or Blue.

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Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin

14 minutes ago, blixie said:

I hope that's it Lamb18, but the fact he's working so hard to turn Jared away from Izzy and has implied he knows it was Jared who destroyed the Chilbillies, means he is desperate to team back up with Jared. And he will. Cause he sucks. I hope I'm wrong but he wants a bro down so bad he hates being stuck with a woman who shows she's smarter than him and guys who wear pink.

Yeah, the rigging is AWFUL, but it's almost worth it to see this dude be fucked by his obsession with bro-ing down.

The thing that I hate that everyone overlooks is that Derrick just wanted to bro down in BB16, but Devon forced him into a much BETTER situation than the one Derrick WANTED by forcing him to take on Christine so that Devon could be closer to Amber. And that one move made Derrick's season (I mean, he probably would have won anyways, since that season was so bro-driven by Grodner, but that decision made it so that Derrick was never even in any danger at all). Bro-ing down can obviously work, but it's not the end all/be all, people!

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LeDucDiableBleu

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41 minutes ago, blixie said:

Oh god, Cam is trying to convince Jared: "If you think you're in with any of them (Cirie et al) you're not as smart as I thought." I literally laughed out loud. I know I know rigged but I hate Cam so. LOL.

 

Last night Cameron was talking to Bowie and said that he thinks Jared is working for the Cirie crew and so I believe this is him trying to provoke Jared into spilling some info.

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Nashville

Nashville

1 hour ago, Gummo said:

Geez, when did "vote with the house" and "anything but a unanimous vote is an attack on the HOH!!" become a thing? Because it's ruined this game. It renders voting meaningless -- you might as well just let the HOH announce who's leaving each week and be done with it. Why are people so craven?

I mean, only one person can win, so why not have a little fun with your game? 

Fooey. I keep waiting, week after week, for something to happen....

Although VWTH has certainly been an option throughout the life of the series, its original exercise was primarily confined to individual HGs making the decision to do so for personal strategic purposes - hiding personal targets, concealing an alliance, and so forth.  Its current (and now-common) deployment as a threat used by dominant alliances to discourage dissent (“VWTH or you’ll be OTB next week”), however, can be laid at the feet of BB15 - or, more specifically, BB15’s Amanda Zuckerman.  

Early in the BB15 season Production selected Zuckerman to be the Voice Of Reason in the House against the overt racism being displayed by Aryan* Gries and others, primarily because she was one of the few HGs not engaging in such. Zuckerman took this designation as evidence of some kind of “manifest destiny” preordaining her as that BB15’s Production-backed winner, however, and in pursuing this goal she became one of the ugliest bullies in BB history.  Each week Zuckerman acted as a dictator - selecting her target, persecuting that HG relentlessly, and promising any HG who did not VTE her target they would be next week’s target - and by and large her tactics were successful; from Week 4 until her own eviction in the Week 10 Double Eviction, all but two House evictions were Zuckerman-orchestrated unanimous votes.

Even after Zuckerman left the House, the template she’d trained the other HGs to follow continued to function; every successive eviction was unanimous as well.  And VWTH has been a moderately effective dissent-stifling tool in subsequent seasons ever since.

 

*And no, that ain’t no damn typo.

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

1 hour ago, Shrek said:

While I agree with you about it being rigged & uninteresting he was all for Cirie until now and this just sounds like sour grapes from him. 

I’d be sour as fuck when I learned the extent of all Cirie’s advantages.

55 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

By the way, Felicia WHY do you think you have Cirie and Jared over Izzy? What gives you that impression? 

Meme and Felicia have always believed the BSB was the true alliance.

That is good lol.

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Nashville

Nashville

1 hour ago, Gummo said:

I'm still hoping they vote out Izzy, and that she responds by spilling The Secret.

Actually… are we sure The Secret hasn’t already been spilled or worked out?

About a half-hour or so ago, Cameron was talking with Indonesia in the BA and he said something which immediately got my attention - their conversation had shifted to Jared, and Cam said something to the effect that under certain circumstances Cam would tell Jared “what I know about him” - and whatever Cam knew (or thought he knew), Cam seemed pretty certain that at the very least it would blow up Jared’s game.

 

58 minutes ago, blixie said:

Oh god, Cam is trying to convince Jared: "If you think you're in with any of them (Cirie et al) you're not as smart as I thought." I literally laughed out loud. I know I know rigged but I hate Cam so. LOL.

Considering Cam’s earlier comments to Zimbabwe, though, I halfway wonder if this might not be Cam concealing possession of whatever bombshell he thinks he has.

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Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

I think Cameron just means that he has figured out that Jared is actually working with Cirie and Izzy.

Agreed.

That said, I do think it's fair enough that Cam IS likely concealing stuff from Jared and just acting like he's playing along with him. That doesn't mean he knows the secret (as, again, I think he does not), but it's fair to note that it is at least POSSIBLE that he thinks he knows and is sitting on it, knowing it is best to hide from the DR. 

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kellog010

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Izzy straight up told Cory she's nominating America next week. Let's see what happens now. 

Cory telling Jag he would be on board to get out Izzy now.

Cory told Jag about Path the Power. He's seems serious about this. 

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Lamb18

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It would be funny if Cam would smile and say to Jared, "I know your secret." And Jared would be scared because he thinks Cam is talking about his mother, but it's really that Cam means he knows Jared is working with Cirie and Izzy.

Cory and Izzy talking. Cory says Marshall Islands is a nightmare. Izzy says Cory has to control her. Izzy says Marshall Islands has to go. Cory is bitter that Marshall Islands is going against what he's said. Izzy is going to talk to Cam and tell him that she knows she has the votes and what is he going to do about it. Izzy talks tough, but I wonder if she'll be that tough when she's talking to Cam.

Cory wonders what Cam is talking to Jag about. 

Marshall Islands joins them. She tells them that Felicia wants to have a house meeting and everyone tell her their vote. Marshall Islands told Felicia that wasn't a good idea. She also told Felicia she doesn't have the votes. Jag joins them. Izzy left the pool table nook.

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Lamb18

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Cory just told Jag and Marshall Islands that Jared's number one and two are Cirie and Izzy. He said not to talk to Matt because Matt will tell Jared. He was also just counting votes to get rid of Izzy.

So, was his previous conversation with Izzy just acting on his part? Because now he's all energetic and enthusiastic.

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Brian Cronin

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5 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

Cory just told Jag and Marshall Islands that Jared's number one and two are Cirie and Izzy. He said not to talk to Matt because Matt will tell Jared. He was also just counting votes to get rid of Izzy.

So, was his previous conversation with Izzy just acting on his part? Because now he's all energetic and enthusiastic.

As soon as she turned on America, I knew Cory was done with Izzy. Let's see if he can actually pull it out.

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Nashville

Nashville

8 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

Marshall Islands joins them. She tells them that Felicia wants to have a house meeting and everyone tell her their vote.

If I were a HG in that context, I guarantee you Ms. Felicia would NOT want to hear my response - but let’s just say urine acrobatics with a length of braided strands might be involved.

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Lamb18

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Cory is now talking with Bowie in the hospital room, talking about getting the votes to keep Felicia. I guess Marshall Islands told Meme that Felicia was going home. But they want to Meme to vote to keep Felicia. He tells Bowie that Cirie will never vote out Izzy. Votes to keep Felicia: Cory, Marshall Islands, Jag, Bowie and Meme. Cory says you can say what you want to Jag and Marshall Islands. They're getting excited.

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Nashville

Nashville

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I'm still thrown by Eric and Jessica lasting three years. I remembered them making it out of the house a couple, but I thought it ended, like, a few months later. THREE YEARS?! How was that possible!?

Was Jessica in a coma, maybe?

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Lamb18

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Matt is saying someone (he) (Jared?) told him that everyone thinks he is stupid and that he's going to go up next. Maybe Cameron was saying that. Jag and Bowie are in the hospital room with him.

Now Cory is talking to Meme. Work your pink charm, Cory!

Actually Bowie is in the HOH room with Cameron. 

Marshall Islands just popped into HOH to tell Cameron not talk to Cirie, not to say anything about votes, etc. She tells him they are voting to keep Izzy. But I think she's playing his game back to him, saying what Cameron can say to other people. So if Cirie asks Cameron, how the other side is going to vote, he can say, "Marshall Islands told me they're voting to keep Izzy."

This is getting so exciting. I like this new codespeak: Tell everyone I said we're voting to keep Izzy, or tell everyone I said I'm putting up Jag and Blue.

I'm going to sign off for a while to check on a cow, I hope the fun times continue!

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Lamb18

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Now Marshall Islands is talking to Cirie. She told Meme she is voting to keep Izzy. Meme misconstrued some stuff and told it to Felicia. Cirie says how Felicia is saying she's got these votes. Matt walks by and Felicia grabs Matt.  

Blue just walks in. That's even better because Blue can overhear all this and tell Jared what Marshall Islands is saying. 

Marshall Islands is a pretty good actress. 

They don't think a house meeting is a good idea. It should be individual conversations. 

It's hard to pull myself away from this. Now I have to leave to see if the cow had her calf.

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dizzyd

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2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

I think there's no way she ever spills unless she's, like, in the Final Three or some shit (man, PLEASE don't do a Final Three this year). 

I can completely see them doing it since the change from F3 to F2 was what caused Cirie to lose survivor Micronesia and this whole season seems like a let us (CBS) give Cirie the win we robbed her of then and redeem ourselves as opposed to Peacock that belongs to the competition that gave her the win for Traitors. That being said, I’d better go hide in a bunker from the fire me saying this will undoubtedly cause. 🫣

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Thalia

Thalia

Matt is both gullible and stubborn, and that makes him poorly suited for this game.  Someone, probably Cory or America, should have attached him or herself to Matt when Reilly went out the door and then STAYED there until he felt valued and protected.  The failure of anyone else to build a strong one on one relationship with him has left him open to Cirie's calm (surface) niceness

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Brian Cronin

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1 minute ago, Thalia said:

Matt is both gullible and stubborn, and that makes him poorly suited for this game.  Someone, probably Cory or America, should have attached him or herself to Matt when Reilly went out the door and then STAYED there until he felt valued and protected.  The failure of anyone else to build a strong one on one relationship with him has left him open to Cirie's calm (surface) niceness

Well, the other problem was that Reilly told him to trust Cirie, and he's, like, SUPER dedicated to Reilly, so it'll be tough to shake that.

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Thalia

Thalia

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Cory is telling Cameron that he thinks they have the votes to get Izzy out.  He agrees with Cameron that Izzy, Cirie, and Jared are a solid team and have to be broken up.   I hope this is true, but I've had my heartbroken before.   And I'm still afraid of Jag and Matt. 

Jag is now alone with Matt trying again to convince him that Cirie and Jared can't be trusted.  

Cory says it HAS to be a blindside, and that he believes the vote will be 6-3.  The three being Cirie, Jared, and Blue. 

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Ivana Tinkle

Ivana Tinkle

1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

I'm still thrown by Eric and Jessica lasting three years. I remembered them making it out of the house a couple, but I thought it ended, like, a few months later. THREE YEARS?! How was that possible!?

Right? I remember when they came back to host a comp in a porno - excuse me - BB9 and thinking "Oh, they're still a thing?".

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