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I admit I missed some of the episode, so I didn't even see Stanika? Just in the previews for next week. 

Poor Michael....lol. I think we all saw that one coming, she wants to have her own version of Eat, Pray, Love---Prague, and he was too mature and serious on the first date. Looks like the next one may be more up her alley, although I did laugh when she seemed shocked at the whip on the table. Come on now, Miss I went to a Fetish Convention.....

Mark, yeah, she played you. His final message to her was weak. I guarantee if he said, well, I was going to tell you I am ready to commit to you and only you, but you are obviously not interested and disrespected MY time, have a great life----she would have been on the line ASAP with a tale of some family emergency. She is playing hard to get. 

Harold, so happy she showed up. But it just shows once again how he is sort of ....desperate. And reeks of said desperation now that he has found a person actually interested in him. Watch out, it could push her away. She didn't respond right away because she has a life---she was working long hours and you know, doing the other stuff she normally does to fill her time. Not sitting around waiting for Harold to text or call. 

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3 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

I admit I missed some of the episode, so I didn't even see Stanika? Just in the previews for next week. 

Poor Michael....lol. I think we all saw that one coming, she wants to have her own version of Eat, Pray, Love---Prague, and he was too mature and serious on the first date. Looks like the next one may be more up her alley, although I did laugh when she seemed shocked at the whip on the table. Come on now, Miss I went to a Fetish Convention.....

Mark, yeah, she played you. His final message to her was weak. I guarantee if he said, well, I was going to tell you I am ready to commit to you and only you, but you are obviously not interested and disrespected MY time, have a great life----she would have been on the line ASAP with a tale of some family emergency. She is playing hard to get. 

Harold, so happy she showed up. But it just shows once again how he is sort of ....desperate. And reeks of said desperation now that he has found a person actually interested in him. Watch out, it could push her away. She didn't respond right away because she has a life---she was working long hours and you know, doing the other stuff she normally does to fill her time. Not sitting around waiting for Harold to text or call. 

Yes, but she could have taken two minutes to respond to him. She knows his time is limited. Not good. All she says is yes, yes …

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Michael and his wonderful, wonderful hair tried to play into the new agey spiritual stuff, to be open and vulnerable, only to have her ridicule him for a mom vibe. This is why men don’t open up more. Then you criticize us for being distant and cold. 
 

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7 hours ago, judylo said:

Yes, but she could have taken two minutes to respond to him. She knows his time is limited. Not good. All she says is yes, yes …

No one is too busy to respond to a text within 24 hours from the person they really care about.  Either she's just not that into him or he's scaring her off a bit with is clinginess.  It's too bad - she actually seems like she'd genuinely be a good match for him.  

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And as I am thinking about this further, dating can be really challenging for people on the spectrum.  The additional stress caused by the time constraint that exists when you are trying to find a bride abroad might be too much for Harold to handle.  He might be able to be more relaxed and calmer at home in the US if a matchmaker could find a girl who shares his interests.  And he definitely needs a more hands on coach who can help explain to him "okay Harold, I'm really glad you found a nice girl.  Now please wait 24 hours before you contact her, and wait until she responds to you before you send another message" so he doesn't scare a girl off before she has a chance to get to know him.

 

It seems like Susan might have benefited a lot from her experience on this show and might be able to go home and be a bit more flexible with her dating requirements.  Hopefully, if this doesn't work out Harold will at least believe in the possibility that someone could be out there for him and he'll make more of an effort into looking for a girlfriend in the U.S.  He seems like a genuinely good man, and would make a wonderful match for the right girl (who might also be on the spectrum or would just have a lot of patience and share his interests)

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6 hours ago, kitkat343 said:

It seems like Susan might have benefited a lot from her experience on this show and might be able to go home and be a bit more flexible with her dating requirements.  

Perhaps...I think her age and financial situation does work against her a bit. She certainly doesn't want a man who depends on her financially; not too young, etc. I feel like in general in the US, for those types of people there isn't a lot of incentive to settle down and get married. And a lot of us at that point have been burned by a divorce or two.....so it is harder to open up emotionally. 

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On 7/24/2023 at 2:48 PM, judylo said:

Yes, but she could have taken two minutes to respond to him. She knows his time is limited. Not good. All she says is yes, yes …

And “why not?” I envision Harold saying “will you marry me” and Michaela responding “why not?”

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8 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Perhaps...I think her age and financial situation does work against her a bit. She certainly doesn't want a man who depends on her financially; not too young, etc. I feel like in general in the US, for those types of people there isn't a lot of incentive to settle down and get married. And a lot of us at that point have been burned by a divorce or two.....so it is harder to open up emotionally. 

I agree with this.  I wrote in last week's forum that although I thought it was a really good thing that Susan was now willing to be more flexible in dating, given her age and the ratio of single men to single women in NYC, I didn't think her chances were great of finding a husband since she's still going to want a man whose at least moderately successful.  It's good that she's made this realization but since she didn't make it 15 years ago her chances still aren't great for marriage/long term partnership.  But maybe she'll get lucky.

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I like Noureddine. His mother and his family appear to be very nice, kind and welcoming to Stanika. There isn't a lot of drama with this couple which is fine with me.

Mark is full of himself. I don't think he'll find a match in Morocco. He's no prize.

 

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On 7/25/2023 at 4:49 PM, kitkat343 said:

I agree with this.  I wrote in last week's forum that although I thought it was a really good thing that Susan was now willing to be more flexible in dating, given her age and the ratio of single men to single women in NYC, I didn't think her chances were great of finding a husband since she's still going to want a man whose at least moderately successful.  It's good that she's made this realization but since she didn't make it 15 years ago her chances still aren't great for marriage/long term partnership.  But maybe she'll get lucky.

Didn't she say that she's not necessarily looking for marriage? Or did I misunderstand that?

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I was looking for the episode, "It's just that I'm terrified " but cannot see it. I only needed to post that I really want Chad to go home empty handed/hearted because I cannot see any redeeming qualities in him. If any viewers can see "something" in Chad, please share so I may understand. 

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On 7/24/2023 at 8:49 PM, Tango64 said:

Michael and his wonderful, wonderful hair tried to play into the new agey spiritual stuff, to be open and vulnerable, only to have her ridicule him for a mom vibe. This is why men don’t open up more. Then you criticize us for being distant and cold. 
 

No woman looking for love and romance wants a prospective partner to say she felt maternal to him. 

The exercise itself was probably a bad idea at this early stage. Weepy guy and "Mom." Now there's a sexy vibe! 😆

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14 hours ago, Chalby said:

I was looking for the episode, "It's just that I'm terrified " but cannot see it. I only needed to post that I really want Chad to go home empty handed/hearted because I cannot see any redeeming qualities in him. If any viewers can see "something" in Chad, please share so I may understand. 

He’s an absolute asshole. I  feel you get to know the real person when you see how they handle rejection. Why she’s going after him in the next episode is beyond me. And that dip in his mouth constantly is disgusting. Especially when he said he was hoping for a kiss. 🤢

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30 minutes ago, DanaMB said:

He’s an absolute asshole. I  feel you get to know the real person when you see how they handle rejection. Why she’s going after him in the next episode is beyond me. And that dip in his mouth constantly is disgusting. Especially when he said he was hoping for a kiss. 🤢

He seems to think he was given a menu to choose from and it didn’t occur that these two women have to choose him.  And you can bet if they are interested in moving to the US, it would be a big city, not some place where a good time is mowing a lawn. 

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OMG. Chad!

So, if after two dates with a woman who lives in a foreign country, she doesn't want to commit to leaving behind her family and friends — to move to another country she's never been to, where she has no family and no friends — to marry and live with a man she's spent a total of roughly 10 hours with? And that's BS to you?

Really?

Women aren't tchotchkes, Chad. You can't go to a foreign country, pick one out, wrap her up, bring her home, stick her on a shelf — then, when you have visitors, point to her and say "Hey - that's what I brought home from Morocco. Anyone want a beer?" 

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works! 

I do thank you for making it abundantly clear to all of us why, at 40 years old, you're still single. 

Stick with your lawnmower, Chad. You have a better chance of developing a committed relationship with it than you do with a living, breathing, intelligent woman. 

Thank God for that. 

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I don't see a thread for the latest episode but....

Chad, OMG. Made it abundantly clear why he is still single and couldn't get someone down the aisle or to the courthouse ever and that he whole aw shucks just a simple country boy lookin for luv is all a show. A farce. Get Chad drunk, tell him no and I think he would be terrifying and violent. Hell, he is terrifying and about to explode in the restaurant. And don't fucking give me the whole "she has no idea what I have been through"---if you are that fucking damaged, gets some therapy, not a matchmaker. In no world or situation would that EVER have been an appropriate reaction. I hope they have a tell all or something where the matchmakers watch the footage and react. Curious to see how Juan plays this off. 

Again, I think this is all fake and scripted on the dates and matchmakers end---the Americans aren't in on the script. The Colombians are paid escorts or models/actresses who were sold on this as, "American reality show, get wined and dined and possibly meet your American prince charming." And then chew mouth Chad shows up and they have to go on and on about how sexy and charming he is LOL. Because WTF is going to expect a serious proposal after 1 or 2 dates? I mean even on 90 day fiance they usually have at least been facetiming for a few months. 

Harold, Harold, Harold.....another one that I liked and routed for and you are going to fuck it up. She politely explained why she turned down the offer of being exclusive. But he is insistent that she is a soulmate and he is ready and appears he will push it in the next episode. A little terrifying. 

Just shows that NONE of these people seem to understand or appreciate what marriage means. That it isn't just arm candy, it's an actual LIFE LIVED with a whole other real human being. Who has goals, standards, a past ,etc.  I mean, Chad's look of horror when she said she wants to finish school, "yeah I guess I can see why that is important to ya" 

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2 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

 

Harold, Harold, Harold.....another one that I liked and routed for and you are going to fuck it up. She politely explained why she turned down the offer of being exclusive. But he is insistent that she is a soulmate and he is ready and appears he will push it in the next episode. A little terrifying. 

I was so disappointed in Harold. I understand that he likes Michaela and that he is thrilled to have met someone that seems to appreciate him for who he is. But it’s ridiculous that he says that Michaela “doesn’t understand” that he is “in love” with her and ready to move forward. I think Michaela understands and if she understood better, she would be justifiably put off by anyone who claims to be able to fall in love so quickly. I think that Harold should take her at her word, spend his last day with her as she offered, and then see what happens when he goes home. Maybe he can plan another trip to visit her. But pushing her for more commitment is only going to push her away and I don’t blame her. 

I think Harold is (also justifiably) afraid that the relationship won’t work long distance but them’s the breaks. If there is something there, they can build on it at least a little through video chats, texting and emails. If there is not, then forcing it now isn’t going to work out anyway. 

I had hope for these two but I don’t now. I think Harold is going to push too hard and Michaela is going to walk away.

 

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2 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Again, I think this is all fake and scripted on the dates and matchmakers end---the Americans aren't in on the script. The Colombians are paid escorts or models/actresses who were sold on this as, "American reality show, get wined and dined and possibly meet your American prince charming." And then chew mouth Chad shows up and they have to go on and on about how sexy and charming he is LOL.

I could beleive this is exactly the setup. The women Chad has met don't seem like they would need a matchmaker, and if it were real I don't think they'd give Chad any chance at all. Kind of cruel to Chad if he's not in on it, but then again, he makes it hard to feel sympathy for him.

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23 minutes ago, Tango64 said:

I could beleive this is exactly the setup. The women Chad has met don't seem like they would need a matchmaker, and if it were real I don't think they'd give Chad any chance at all. Kind of cruel to Chad if he's not in on it, but then again, he makes it hard to feel sympathy for him.

They might need a green-card maker….but with Chad, even a greed card isn’t worth having to pretend to like him.  

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2 hours ago, DEL901 said:

They might need a green-card maker…

I don't think the last woman, Maria? who went on the second date, she doesn't seem like she is interested in leaving Colombia anytime soon. She is still in school. They were paid to show up and show him a decent time, then if they did actually like him hey maybe they would legit want to keep in touch.

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

she would be justifiably put off by anyone who claims to be able to fall in love so quickly.

This x100. When he was saying how he just knows and he has never felt this way before, I was thinking oh boy those are some MAJOR red flags. He barely knows this woman. Anyone who claims to know that you are the one and talk like this after two very chaste dates has some issues with boundaries at the least. He pushes and she will friendzone him fast, and rightfully so. 

Mark----would like to feel some sympathy for him, but he is a less unhinged Chad. Went there with the mindset that he could select a wife off the shelf and got his ass handed to him by Houda standing him up. I love how when he asked about keeping in touch, the matchmaker said if it is business related of course she would respond to a text. 

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33 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

I don't think the last woman, Maria? who went on the second date, she doesn't seem like she is interested in leaving Colombia anytime soon. She is still in school. They were paid to show up and show him a decent time, then if they did actually like him hey maybe they would legit want to keep in touch.

I was also disappointed that Harold expected to stay with Michaela at her flat even though he hadn’t as much as spoken to her to confirm his visit. That was awfully presumptuous. Bad enough that he thought it; even worse that he said it to her.

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11 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I was also disappointed that Harold expected to stay with Michaela at her flat

OMG, YESSSSS!!! She handled it very diplomatically. But even in her TH, you can see she is getting more and more uncomfortable with the whole situation. Again, I think these are paid locals.....who at most probably thought they would get some meals and make a friend or two. Have any of these people actually hooked up? I don't think they have, further proof of my conspiracy theory lol. 

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No thread for episode 12?

Chad is a boor and a drunk, 3 sheets to the wind in every clip this time. He’s rude; angry toward women; and seems to have no insight on why he has had three broken engagements and other breakups. Is it the booze, the tabaccy, having no interests, no ability to converse? I wish  Maria threw her drink on him and walked out. I don’t think any woman should be alone with Drunk Chad. “Ol’ Chad’s gonna get a kiss tonight!”

I FF through Michelle. I find her mouth and teeth distracting and the near-desperation uncomfortable. I wish her well. Perhaps she should try the U.S. again, aiming for older, settled men and not showing off so much. 

Harold thinks after two dates (and not getting called back for a third date) that he should have a GF or fiancee. Telling M he thought he'd stay over was cringe. (And it’s not like a hotel would cost him anything). OTOH, Michaela is too vague about “friends,” etc., while acting excited about getting together. At least she turned him down. She needs to tell him that friends is all it is, and all it is going to be. I agree w/Drunk Chad that these people don’t come on this show to make a friend.  

Mark only wants what he can't have. Houda was young enough to be his daughter and didn't need an overgrown teenager who also hates women. if she wants a much older man, there are many more mature (vs. immature), respectful, and wealthy men around. Disgusting he tried to pick up his matchmaker, and good she shut it down. Juicy that H made him loiter on the street (ghosted). You know he'll never let go of that, while I bet he's ghosted a woman or two .     

Hope Noureddin isn’t playing Stanika. Is he sincere or an operator? So far Stanika has mostly accepted the ego and the controlling. She’s never had a BF and lets him be in charge. But he's going OTT. “I want to get you into bed because I respect you," etc., bed Bed BED. 

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20 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

OMG. Chad!

So, if after two dates with a woman who lives in a foreign country, she doesn't want to commit to leaving behind her family and friends — to move to another country she's never been to, where she has no family and no friends — to marry and live with a man she's spent a total of roughly 10 hours with? And that's BS to you?

Really?

Women aren't tchotchkes, Chad. You can't go to a foreign country, pick one out, wrap her up, bring her home, stick her on a shelf — then, when you have visitors, point to her and say "Hey - that's what I brought home from Morocco. Anyone want a beer?" 

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works! 

I do thank you for making it abundantly clear to all of us why, at 40 years old, you're still single. 

Stick with your lawnmower, Chad. You have a better chance of developing a committed relationship with it than you do with a living, breathing, intelligent woman. 

Thank God for that. 

Maybe his Mom or Aunt can find him a match in their potluck church group.  He is totally self absorbed lol, she had already told him she wasn't giving up her education...  she is obviously there for a date, period..... and he still has no clue, ugh. But then obviously Juan the incredible matchmaker is once again doing a disservice to his clients! This show is really off I think lol.

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24 minutes ago, Tuneful said:

No thread for episode 12?

This episode, to me, was a downer. Chad is a boor and a drunk, 3 sheets to the wind in every clip I saw this time. He’s rude; angry toward women; and seems to have no insight on why he has had three broken engagements and who knows how many other breakups. Was it the booze, the tabaccy, having no interests, no ability to converse? Maria should have thrown her drink on him and walked out, or told the crew, "He's drunk. Try me again when he's sober, for one more meeting." I don’t think any woman should be alone with Drunk Chad. “Ol’ Chad’s gonna get a kiss tonight!”

I FF through Michelle. I find her mouth and teeth distracting and the desperation uncomfortable. I wish her well. Perhaps she should date in the U.S. aiming for older, settled men. And don't constantly be "on."  

Harold thinks after two dates (and who didn't get called back for a third date) that he should have a GF or fiancee. Telling M he thought he'd stay over was cringe. (And it’s not like a hotel would cost him anything). OTOH, Michaela is too vague about “friends,” etc., while acting excited about getting together. Glad she turned him down, though. She needs to tell him that friends is all it is and all it is going to be. I agree w/Drunk Chad that these people don’t come to another country on a dating show to make a friend.  

Mark only wants what he can't have. That 24-year-old lady was young enough to be his daughter and didn't need an overgrown teenager who also seems to hate women. if she wants much older men, there are many more mature (vs. immature), respectful, and wealthy men around. Disgusting he tried to pick up his matchmaker and good for her for shutting it down. 

Hope Noureddin isn’t playing Stanika. Is he sincere or an operator? So far Stanika has mostly accepted the ego and the controlling. She’s never had a BF and lets him be in charge. But he's getting OTT. “I want to get you into bed because I respect you," etc. She doesn't need you to lecture her on sex and the way courtship has to go. 

This show is icky and uncomfortable to watch imo.... and it just keeps getting worse.  The creepy date with the masks wtf?.... where on earth did they find Chad and so on, and where is the young girl that was also Juan the losers client?  Was she abducted or gone back to her Mom?  I don't get this show at all.

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where is the young girl that was also Juan the losers client?  Was she abducted or gone back to her Mom?  

She was abducted by her mom...

Just kidding. She used up her allotted dates/screen time and went home with (supposedly) greater insight but no long term "romance." Which, on this show, is probably a blessing.

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I think Harold assumed Matchmaker would result in a match aka marriage.   With his autism, I give him a partial pass on not reading the room with Michaela as he probably thought she was also in it for marriage.  However Chad is just an ass, expecting to pick from the menu of beautiful Colombian women.  

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11 hours ago, Tuneful said:

Hope Noureddin isn’t playing Stanika. Is he sincere or an operator?

I am going with operator. He is a tour guide, right? You know he has constantly tried to work his game on wealthier single women in his tour groups to no avail. I liked him but now that she met his family he seems to really be pushing for sex. Not that they shouldn't go there, especially at their ages (it isnt' like she or he are 18), but what about the "culture"?? He is an older love rat. 

I really do think that on the matchmaker's side, they sold this show and experience as an opportunity to make a friend, get some exposure and a paycheck. Not to find a lifelong partner. 

11 hours ago, Tuneful said:

I FF through Michelle. I find her mouth and teeth distracting and the near-desperation uncomfortable. I wish her well. Perhaps she should try the U.S. again, aiming for older, settled men and not showing off so much. 

Yes, near desperation to find a man and also to prove how edgy and liberated she is with the constant sex talk. She would never aim older since she just bragged no one has ever been able to keep up with her sexually. eye roll

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11 hours ago, Quof said:

So Stanika has never had a single date in her life. Are we supposed to assume she's a virgin as well?

I think that we are to assume that and for whatever reason, I don’t have a hard time believing it.

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On 8/1/2023 at 9:34 PM, endure said:

This show is icky and uncomfortable to watch imo.... and it just keeps getting worse.  The creepy date with the masks wtf?.... where on earth did they find Chad and so on, and where is the young girl that was also Juan the losers client?  Was she abducted or gone back to her Mom?  I don't get this show at all.

I thought the setups with the masks and the therapist or whatever where it was the matchmaker or her husband doing the couples' event was weird. They should have the people go do something cultural or explore the city they're in.

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On 7/31/2023 at 5:30 AM, LennieBriscoe said:

No woman looking for love and romance wants a prospective partner to say she felt maternal to him. 

The exercise itself was probably a bad idea at this early stage. Weepy guy and "Mom." Now there's a sexy vibe! 😆

The counselor who was guiding the therapy session was just creepy. I can't explain it but there's no way I would go through a session with him guiding me. I like that Michael was able to be vulnerable, but it also showed that he is looking for a nurturing partner and that is not her style.

I was really enjoying match me abroad, until I realized that many of the people being profiled have serious issues. I don't know if it's mental health issues, or trauma from their past, or parental issues but something is not right in their world. It's easy to make fun of 90-day fiance people because many of them are everyday people. But all of these singles are "off" for lack of a better word.

Susan finally opened up at the end and I saw a wonderful glimmer of personality and sweetness that was definitely not there before. I realized she has gone through something, be it regarding having children or the ending of her short marriage, but she has had serious trauma and we just aren't privy to it, and she has no intention of letting us in.

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On 7/31/2023 at 10:36 PM, TwirlyGirly said:

OMG. Chad!

So, if after two dates with a woman who lives in a foreign country, she doesn't want to commit to leaving behind her family and friends — to move to another country she's never been to, where she has no family and no friends — to marry and live with a man she's spent a total of roughly 10 hours with? And that's BS to yo

I do thank you for making it abundantly clear to all of us why, at 40 years old, you're still single. 

I love this forum. Clearly, we are all united in our disdain for Chad, the biggest loser on Match Me Abroad.

He shall now be referred to as the "Dangling Chad". Lol

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On 8/1/2023 at 2:17 PM, Elizzikra said:

I was also disappointed that Harold expected to stay with Michaela at her flat even though he hadn’t as much as spoken to her to confirm his visit. That was awfully presumptuous. Bad enough that he thought it; even worse that he said it to her.

Also bringing condoms and showing them to the camera crew.  Ugh.  He doesn’t seem mature enough to have sex.

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2 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Also bringing condoms and showing them to the camera crew.  Ugh.  He doesn’t seem mature enough to have sex.

Actually having condoms (and hopefully using them) would put him leagues ahead of most of the cast of shows like this...

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On 8/1/2023 at 9:04 PM, Tuneful said:

I FF through Michelle. I find her mouth and teeth distracting and the near-desperation uncomfortable. I wish her well. Perhaps she should try the U.S. again, aiming for older, settled men and not showing off so much.

She was acting visibly annoyed by Michael but I find everything about her to be annoying.  And re the be vulnerable and accept comforting from your partner exercise:  many men would refuse to participate or would half ass it.  He committed to the exercise and was mocked for it.  Also he didn’t say she was like a mother.  He said boys are comforted by their mothers and men often reject comforting from their lovers because they want to look strong.  That is a valid point and not a ground to reject someone.  She claims to be emotionally mature but I disagree.  

13 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Actually having condoms (and hopefully using them) would put him leagues ahead of most of the cast of shows like this...

Yeah I just thought it was wildly presumptuous.

On 8/1/2023 at 9:25 PM, endure said:

she had already told him she wasn't giving up her education

I would love to know where he went to college and what his degree was in if he in fact finished.  He is the stereotype of the ignorant American.

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On 8/2/2023 at 8:18 AM, Stuckathome said:

She would never aim older since she just bragged no one has ever been able to keep up with her sexually. eye roll

She is so loud in general I would hate to be her neighbor when she is having sex.  The braying.

22 hours ago, Chalby said:

Susan finally opened up at the end and I saw a wonderful glimmer of personality and sweetness that was definitely not there before.

Although she denied it.  I don’t think she is self aware at all.

20 hours ago, Chalby said:

He shall now be referred to as the "Dangling Chad". Lol

An asshole so big they named a country after him.

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On 8/5/2023 at 4:26 PM, MrBuhBye said:

She was acting visibly annoyed by Michael but I find everything about her to be annoying.  And re the be vulnerable and accept comforting from your partner exercise:  many men would refuse to participate or would half ass it.  He committed to the exercise and was mocked for it.  Also he didn’t say she was like a mother.  He said boys are comforted by their mothers and men often reject comforting from their lovers because they want to look strong.  That is a valid point and not a ground to reject someone.  She claims to be emotionally mature but I disagree.  

Yeah I just thought it was wildly presumptuous.

I would love to know where he went to college and what his degree was in if he in fact finished.  He is the stereotype of the ignorant American.

Whatever Michael might have meant, what mattered here was Michelle's (off-camera) reaction, which was the heavily sarcastic "Nothing turns me on faster than being compared to your Mom."  Then she continued, questioning if "Michael was feeling a mother-son energy from me, then yeah, that's the end of that. Really can't go back from that one to being somebody you want to....(laughs)." Michelle concluded that she wished she had trusted her initial instinct and not had a second date. 

Now, was Michelle off-base, jettisoning a caring man? Maybe! But that's the path she has chosen, so that's  the path we watch. 

ETA: Michelle is one of those LOUD people who have no clue about normal volume. I've never understood that trait. 🗣

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Chad is indescribable for me, like I can't quite find the words for this clown, this hick who thinks a woman would want to kiss a 'baccy-chaw mouth. BARF BAG, PLEASE! 

He's going to decide "which one's right for me," like the two women are pieces of clothing to try on for size. It doesn't  occur to him to wonder if he is their "size."

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I can't imagine this show being renewed for another season, to me it really never had a purpose - who wants to travel out of their own country for a date?  It's  not like any of them had any sort of relationship with anyone there prior to going so essentially putting in a huge effort and expense for a blind date? 

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10 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Chad is indescribable for me, like I can't quite find the words for this clown, this hick who thinks a woman would want to kiss a 'baccy-chaw mouth. BARF BAG, PLEASE! 

He's going to decide "which one's right for me," like the two women are pieces of clothing to try on for size. It doesn't  occur to him to wonder if he is their "size."

He is so very hokey like some farm boy caricature from the long ago past.  But he did have a cell phone and he folded his shirts when he was packing his clothes.  I think he should look for someone local, might be his best bet.

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On 8/7/2023 at 12:13 AM, endure said:

He is so very hokey like some farm boy caricature from the long ago past.  But he did have a cell phone and he folded his shirts when he was packing his clothes.  I think he should look for someone local, might be his best bet.

He was engaged three times - that might represent the entire single female population in whatever small town he is from…

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14 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

He was engaged three times - that might represent the entire single female population in whatever small town he is from…

and he must have been the only eligible bachelor around for any of them to agree to marry him......... watching him mow grass - whooppee!

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8 hours ago, cinsays said:

and he must have been the only eligible bachelor around for any of them to agree to marry him......... watching him mow grass - whooppee!

And yet they would rather be single than marry him.  

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