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[ari333]

1 minute ago, Ohmo said:

That's what struck me, too, especially if you'd had acquaintances living in your house.

 

I don't think that because Lance never offered it up as a possibility.  During the trial, he went with "we had consensual sex" and things deteriorated from there."  Then we heard him say that he never thought he was in danger of the death penalty.  If you're looking at death, that's the time to offer up the husband if he's involved somehow.  That didn't happen.  Derrick's not perfect, but I don't think he had any part in the events that killed his wife.

That's the evil beauty of Derrick's plan IMO. He didnt' NEED to ask Lance to do anything. He probably said "Hey there's some porn  in the DVRDVD if you wanna watch. " a young dude...get him all hot and bothered. I do not for a minute believe the sex was consensual. Maybe it was not violent,but not consensual imo.

Of course things deteriorated if it's not consensual. She shot at him. five times.

[biakbiak]

26 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

Most gated communities, you either have a key or the passcode to get in. This is smelling more and more like the husband encouraged the bad boy to help him get rid of his wife. Too many tears and sobs.

They stated that the community had just kept the gate open for months. it sounded like the residents got annoyed with the gate and had voted to leave it open for whatever reason and it had been that way for awhile. 

Edited October 29, 2016 by biakbiak

[JudyObscure]

1 minute ago, ari333 said:

Who tells a person not in the family or a very close, long time, trusted friend that there is a house key under the ceramic dog?

Who even puts the key under the ceramic dog, next to the front door?  Only the doormat would have been more predictable. Both Derrick and his wife were in businesses connected to keeping people safe.  How could they be so stupid about these things?

Yes, I thought of Elizabeth smart, too.  Her father had hired the homeless man who later kidnapped his daughter. I admired Mr. Smart for being so charitable, but we all learned something from that, didn't we?

1 minute ago, ari333 said:

As long as the wife was young, thin, and beautiful everything was peachy.

I noticed that, too. He as much as said, she was way happier with the medication, but the dread side effect of gaining a few pounds was far worse than the suicidal depression.  Putz. 

[ari333]

Derrick had to say and do nothing to Lance about killing his wife. He just had to tell Lance where the key was and his wife was a siting duck.

[ari333]

Derrick gave me the willies and I didn't think his antics were sincere. I got a lot of flags on this dude. But he was smart. He set it up and just let if happen.

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, ari333 said:

Derrick had to say and do nothing to Lance about killing his wife. He just had to tell Lance where the key was and his wife was a siting duck.

Lance lived there for months it wouldn't be odd for him to know that was where the spare key was located. Hell any random burglery nows that if there is a random pot, frog, dog, etc, near the front door it's a good chance that is where a spare key is located.

I don't think Lance would admit to ever part of the crime to his friend and neglect to mention that Derrick had hired him or put him up to it.

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Who even puts the key under the ceramic dog, next to the front door?  Only the doormat would have been more predictable. Both Derrick and his wife were in businesses connected to keeping people safe.  How could they be so stupid about these things?

Tons and tons of people. I know people who still leave a key under the welcome mat.

Edited October 29, 2016 by biakbiak

[ari333]

And Lance wanted to get in the house to GET A JERSEY? Oh please god give me a break. ANd he didn't know that Derrick wasn't home? Most folks would call and people have cell phones, so he'd know Derrick was at work 24 hour shift. oh please....

[ari333]

We don't know if SHE knew there was a spare key. And we don't know when it was placed there. We do know that Lance knew about it and one of them, the wife (I forgot her name, sorry)  or Derrick, had to put it there and my guess is it was not her.  I don't buy that Lance chose to leave the home I think she  may have kicked him out. But either way, it's fishy to me.

Edited October 29, 2016 by ari333

[Ohmo]

8 minutes ago, ari333 said:

Of course things deteriorated if it's not consensual. She shot at him. five times.

The point I was making is not whether or not the sex was consensual.  It was the fact that that was the story that Lance went with even into the penalty phase.  Even when the death penalty was on the table.  He never threw Derrick under the bus or even tried to.  I look at that as Derrick not being involved.  Lance couldn't through Derrick under the bus because Derrick was not involved.

[biakbiak]

6 minutes ago, Ohmo said:

The point I was making is not whether or not the sex was consensual.  It was the fact that that was the story that Lance went with even into the penalty phase.  Even when the death penalty was on the table.  He never threw Derrick under the bus or even tried to.  I look at that as Derrick not being involved.  Lance couldn't through Derrick under the bus because Derrick was not involved.

Exactly. it would make no sense not to even to try to implicate Derrick if he was involved. 

Not to mention Lance's story was straight up nonsense. 

Edited October 29, 2016 by biakbiak

[ari333]

3 minutes ago, Ohmo said:

The point I was making is not whether or not the sex was consensual.  It was the fact that that was the story that Lance went with even into the penalty phase.  Even when the death penalty was on the table.  He never threw Derrick under the bus or even tried to.  I look at that as Derrick not being involved.  Lance couldn't through Derrick under the bus because Derrick was not involved.

I totally agree with you. Derrick was not involved per se. He just set the situation in motion to tempt that man, Lance, and he took the bait. Derrick made his home easy to get into and did nothing to stop it.  Derrick's reactions on the 911 call were fishy to me as well.  She was there long enough to be stiff, so there would be bruises and blood and there WAS blood everywhere. Suicide my voluminous ass.

[ridethemaverick]

I also don't think Derrick set it up. I do think he was a bad husband for several reasons, but mostly for cheating and for allowing shifty men full access to his home without thinking about his wife and keeping her protected. 

I'm usually pretty numb to details since I watch a lot of true crime but hearing what happened to Kim was heartbreaking. I almost turned it off.

[ari333]

Guys, I'm not saying Derrick was involved. Im saying he set the stage and Lance jumped on the situation with no coaxing needed from Derrick

Edited October 29, 2016 by ari333

[Ohmo]

1 minute ago, ari333 said:

Guys, I'm not saying Derrick was involved. Im saying her set the stage and Lance jumped on the situation with no coaxing needed from Derrrick

Got it.  To me, "fishy" and "hinky" imply that Derrick was intentionally part of the plot to kill Kim.  I don't think Derrick is fishy or hinky.  Clueless, overly trusting, and misguided are adjectives I agree with.

[ari333]

1 minute ago, Ohmo said:

Got it.  To me, "fishy" and "hinky" imply that Derrick was intentionally part of the plot to kill Kim.  I don't think Derrick is fishy or hinky.  Clueless, overly trusting, and misguided

 

Something about the guy (Derrick) gave me the chills all through that interview.

[biakbiak]

9 minutes ago, Ohmo said:

Got it.  To me, "fishy" and "hinky" imply that Derrick was intentionally part of the plot to kill Kim.  I don't think Derrick is fishy or hinky.  Clueless, overly trusting, and misguided are adjectives I agree with.

Completely agree. Also Kim was equally trusting and allowed these two men to live with them. also, the real fuck up who had a criminal record and was arrested right before she was killed was th eyoumg man who was completely devasted by finding out she was murdered and was innocent.

Also he was freaked out on the 911 call and stated  that he knew she was already dead. 

HE seemed like a man grasping at straws to explain the unexplainable it just didn't occur to him that she was murdered. 

Edited October 29, 2016 by biakbiak

[ari333]

I already deleted this eppy, but when Lance was talking to LE, did he say that  they had consensual sex and then she went ballistic on him afterward? Was that the gist of it? My question is if that were true, I cant envision her having sex with him by choice (first of all, but let's say she did for argument's sake) ) and then why would she  stay naked for all the other things that happened.?Especially if she were feeling bad about a few pounds of weight gain I'm glad Lance talked freely to LE bc that's what nailed him.It was stupid of him, but a stroke of luck for justice for Kim.  

[biakbiak]

23 minutes ago, ari333 said:

I already deleted this eppy, but when Lance was talking to LE, did he say that  they had consensual sex and then she went ballistic on him afterward? Was that the gist of it? My question is if that were true, I cant envision her having sex with him by choice (first of all, but let's say she did for argument's sake) ) and then why would she  stay naked for all the other things that happened.?Especially if she were feeling bad about a few pounds of weight gain I'm glad Lance talked freely to LE bc that's what nailed him.It was stupid of him, but a stroke of luck for justice for Kim.  

When talking to police officers he said that the spare key wasn't under the dog and that and never went inside,. They arredted him he asked for a lawyer.

At trial he stated he went inside and they had consensual sex and then the rest of his crazy nonsense story which is too stupid to repeat.

Lance admitted to the entire crime to his friend Brian Including letting himself into the house, surprised by the fact that she was there, the electronics in the sink, the pool cue and her ladt words etc. before he was ever taken into custody.

I 

Edited October 29, 2016 by biakbiak

[ari333]

3 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

He never mentioned sex at all when he talked to police officers it was only when he was on trial that he stated, when he and his defense team knew they had his DNA inside her that they had consensual sex.

Lance admitted to the entire crime to his friend Brian Including letting himself into the house, surprised by the fact that she was there, the electronics in the sink, the pool cue and her ladt words etc. before he was ever taken into custody.

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Thanks, you're right

All of it was absurd. I didn't believe any of it., except the parts he told the friend. THAT I believed. Spilling the beans about the key was pretty stupid, (among other things he said) but I'm glad he said it. It's part of what got him arrested.

[RedheadZombie]

I didn't think the husband was guilty, but I admit that part of it was the way Andrea questioned him.  She was clearly not treating him as an suspect.  I was a little distracted, so I didn't take the time to see if he had genuine tears when he cried, which I typically look for.

I was totally creeped out by the husband's voice, and I know why.  He reminded me of the man accused of killing his wife.  It was the guy who pulled up to the house with his daughter in the car, and claims he immediately knew there was something off, and he drove to the neighbor's house and called 911.  I found it hard to believe a man wouldn't have wanted to rush in and attempt to save his wife.  I think they were the missionaries with no jobs, but two cars and cell phones, and lived with her working parents.  He was obviously having an affair with the young woman they sponsored.  I remember that voice.  He spoke slowly, and seemed falsely solemn.  Describing telling his children their mother was dead - complete melodrama.  Something about how his tears fell on his children's faces, while their tears wet his face.  I don't even know if the guy was found guilty, but he had a very punchable face.

[ari333]

Another thing that bugged me is.. why did Kim's depression and medication need to be mentioned at all on this show? That seems personal and not my business. It had no bearing on the outcome.

[RedheadZombie]

43 minutes ago, ari333 said:

Another thing that bugged me is.. why did Kim's depression and medication need to be mentioned at all on this show? That seems personal and not my business. It had no bearing on the outcome.

It's the attempt to make a hundred red herrings.  Like the woman killed in her home by the creep who got off on frightening and attacking realtors.  Her friends knew the fiancé was innocent, yet they spent a great deal of time trying to convince the audience that he was guilty.  They had an agenda, and I found it disturbing.

And these shows ALWAYS mention when a victim was depressed, even if it was thirty years ago, and they ALWAYS mention an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety.  It's completely predictable.

[UsernameFatigue]

Like others here, the hubby creeped me out - I would not have been surprised to find that he set up the murder though it looks like he didn't  in the end. He certainly moved on though. I also wondered if he married the mistress? They never said how long ago he remarried but since it was only 4 years ago this weekend that Kim was murdered he recovered rather quickly and moved on to a new life. So either he dropped the mistress and found another love, or married her. It sounded like his new wife was some kind of a therapist? If she was the mistress maybe that is why that question was never addressed. Wouldn't be good for business one would think.

I don't understand either why people move ex cons into their homes. But yes, Lance's story was ridiculous. I found it interesting that Derrick said the reason Lance was kicked out was due to smoking in the house. And then at the crime scene he leaves cigarette butts on the carpet. One last FU to Kim apparently. It is really too bad that he didn't get the death penalty. Or that Kim missed killing him in the first place. That poor woman.

Edited October 30, 2016 by UsernameFatigue

[Diana Berry]

What was the point of the electronics in the sink? Also, how  long was he at the house?  Did he bring the DVD tape?  Where did he get the zip ties?

My heart breaks for that woman.

Edited October 30, 2016 by Diana Berry

[A.Ham]

These two hour shows drag on for far too long.

This is the first of the new batch I've been able to see all the way through. And that was with two DVR viewings, because I fell asleep on the first try. I did wake up at the point where the delusional defense attorney was describing Kim as irate, shooting at Lance and trying to tie Kim's meds into it. I don't know if it was because I was still groggy from sleepiness, but hearing that nonsense pissed me off badly. Bitch, what do you expect? If an intruder breaks into my house and sucker punches me, ties me up, you best believe I'm going to use the available gun to defend myself. Trust. And you don't have to be "crazy" or on medications to reach that conclusion (and no, there isn't anything wrong with being on antidepressants). It irritated me so that she was looking for any reason to literally blame the victim. I'd like to know how the defense attorney would proceed if she were in the situation, or what she would advise a daughter of hers to do if they were in Kim's shoes.

I found Lance to be abhorrent and repulsive, more so that a lot of the killers I've seen on Dateline. He was just so smarmy. The way he described he and Kim having consensual intercourse. Blech. Twisting the story so far out of reality. If there ever was a time I wish I could punch someone through the TV...

[JudyObscure]

"In the Dead of Night,"   The Stocks, Kansas farm couple, shot in their bed on Easter.  This one really should have been called "in Cold Blood," because it was so much like the Truman Capote book by that name.

Cousin Matt Livers confesses right after I said, "They're being too harsh!  They're going to get a false confession!"  Matt fingers his cousin because the police kept talking about the car and weren't happy until he included it in his story.  Both boys were "deceptive" on their lie detector test. Those things are so worthless.

The ring! Without it, two innocents would have had the death penalty.  The amazing jewelry company employee who worked harder than the police!  I love her! 

Final thoughts.  Even after ten years, that horrible girl, while trying to sound remorseful, can't seem to remember her victim's names.  It's,  "That lady," and "That older man."  This episode really left me with a, "None of us are safe," feeling. No one was having an affair, nice people, the wife kept the house perfectly neat and baked cakes.   Her perfect house didn't keep her safe, but at least it helped that piece of evidence stand out.

Final questions: What was the car doing by the side of the road?  Was Nick smoking?  Why did he have it washed and detailed the morning after?  Was it to get the marijuana smell out before returning it to his brother?

Do you think evidence was deliberately planted in the car?

[walnutqueen]

The FBI believed the blood evidence was planted, as did the judge who convicted the CSI guy, so I am inclined to believe it, too.

The civil case against the CSI guy and the authorities was also successful, so there must be a prepondernce of evidence pointing to some serious shenanigans.

Too bad this travesty also fractured a strong and loving family.  Those 2 cousins will never get true justice unless CSI guy admits to planting the blood, or other convincing evidence is uncovered.

[JudyObscure]

So true.  Those two young guys deserved every penny of their settlement.  I felt particularly sorry for Nick, who went from a good looking young man about town, to an overweight, paranoid, unhappy guy who knows half the town thinks he's a murderer, but doesn't want to leave because it's home.

[Calamity Jane]

On 9/25/2016 at 6:05 AM, JudyObscure said:

Yes, after they went on and on about his weirdness I was expecting Norman Bates.  Then they brought him in and he really just sounded like a nice, slightly nerdy young man with a crush on a sweet woman.  I wish she had been engaged to him  -- he would have been there for her.

I always worry about the dogs, too.  The murderer might have just yelled at them and shut them out of the bedroom.  We always think our dogs would attack anyone trying to kill us, but highly domesticated, gentle dogs like her golden retriever mixes, would have a very hard time making themselves actually bite a human.  They would be worried, upset  and confused, but not likely to cross a "no hurt," line that's strong in their minds. I saw a case in the newspaper once, of a woman who was walking her Doberman Pinscher when she was attacked and knifed to death.  The dog was found later, shaking and upset.  With a few exceptions, most breeds have to be actually trained to protect his human beyond barking and snarling.  I know my Mini-Dachshund would bite, but she's a vicious little bitch who would love nothing more than to be fed Girl Scouts for breakfast. Still, one swift kick from an intruder would kill her so there's that.

I've always said that intruders would only be in danger of being knocked over as my Chocolate Lab tried to lick them.

[ari333]

Great that that lady took the time and cared enough to track down the ring.

[RedheadZombie]

I just remembered this about Lance.  He actually complained that the state saw this "bloody, awful scene" and gave it the most negative connotation.  Because a naked, raped, and beaten murder victim has to be the true villain, right?

[ari333]

The murders of the Stocks, I missed a bit. How did LE find the letter written by Jessica?

 "I liked the adrenaline rush" Yikes.

[Ohmo]

8 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

Do you think evidence was deliberately planted in the car?

I don't have a vibe one way or another about the car evidence, but I don't think Matt or Nick were involved.  There's nothing connecting them to Greg and Jessica, and from that TX case of that psychopath from MO who killed people, stole a truck, took off to TX and home invaded some random farmhouse killing (he thought) everyone inside, I can see a similar scenario playing out here.

I don't know if the CSI boss deliberately planted the evidence or contamination happened as he said, but I sure as heck think someone made Matt's recantation video disappear.

14 minutes ago, ari333 said:

The murders of the Stocks, I missed a bit. How did LE find the letter written by Jessica?

They executed a search warrant of the teen halfway house where she was staying.  It was in a cigarette box taped behind a picture frame that hung on a wall.

[Ohmo]

Case shut, questions linger about investigators in Murdock murders

Long article that includes information like Matt had been in special education classes in school and had a difficult time maintaining employment as an adult.

I just skimmed it (due to its length), but it seems those implicated tried to pin all the blame on the CSI boss.  An expert quoted at the end of the article disputes that, and I agree with her.  CSI guy did wrong, but others did too.  Seems like no one else was punished in a significant way.

[Jpxfactor]

Well of course he will back her up...it's his only living parent..she didn't need to murder him.  She did have family and community, which a lot of Vic's of dv don't have.

[ari333]

Did anyone see "The Good Husband" last night? (11-4-16, Friday)

[ari333]

There was a twist at hour 1:21 and then at 1:27.

The mistake  at the autopsy was alarming.  There was another  LE  mistake; it was that fact that some of the video/audio tape of Gil's LE interview was inadmissible in court because he hadn't been read his rights Sheesh. So the jury couldn't hear some really damning stuff, for example,  when he denied knowing what midazolam is  

The stupidity of the dentist was stunning. Did he not know there are security cameras? The texts are traceable..

On another note,  If married folks want to have an affair, why not get divorced and date whoever?

[answerphone]

I'm watching The Good Husband right now. What was the mystery DNA found on the deceased? A hair or a drop of blood?

My thoughts exactly..."he hadn't been read his rights"? Yikes, that sounds like an unbelievable Lifetime TV movie. And what educated adult does not know phone texts and computer searches can be revealed?

[ari333]

Why would "a friend"  - a dentist - give the victim, Tom,  a dose of that drug so "he could sleep?" Who sleeps in the parking lot of a gym when the person has a home and is supposed to be at work in a few minutes/ an hour?

At least they got him nailed on the two fake CIA BS forgery charges and subsequently on the insurance fraud.   That is some consolation.

6 minutes ago, answerphone said:

I'm watching The Good Husband right now. What was the mystery DNA found on the deceased? A hair or a drop of blood?

My thoughts exactly..."he hadn't been read his rights"? Yikes, that sounds like an unbelievable Lifetime TV movie. And what educated adult does not know phone texts and computer searches can be revealed?

The folks at the autopsy inadvertently  contaminated the evidence in that the "stranger  male DNA" came from the deceased person who was autopsied right before Tom. Mistakes like that can let the real murderer go free bc of reasonable doubt. But luckily they sorted that part out in time. Still..... shoddy work,  .  

[answerphone]

I agree. And those two jurors don't appear to be the most intelligent people I've seen.

[biakbiak]

I have seen the story before, I am assuming on 48 Hours but I didnt really think this story needed to be 2 hours.

[ridethemaverick]

After seeing the detective's interrogation technique (FUCK YOU! THAT'S BULLSHIT! Etc), I wasn't surprised to learn that such a stupid mistake was made with the Miranda rights. 

I found Gil and the wife disgusting, but at least she's not a murderer I guess.

[Ohmo]

4 hours ago, answerphone said:

I agree. And those two jurors don't appear to be the most intelligent people I've seen.

Thank you!  That female juror's logic made no sense to me.  "Yeah, Gil was there, but I (the juror) thought he was helping Tom get some sleep."

Me: At 4:30 am?  In his car?  In a parking lot at the gym?  He's just helping his buddy get some sleep with mediasalam (sp)?  Yeah, that sounds like a completely normal thing to do.  The fact that juror bought that as a plausible narrative boggles the mind!

I don't care how low the mediasalam level was.  The jury missed the point.  Tom had not been in the hospital or had any sort of medical procedure.  Why was there any mediasalam in his system at all?  I think Gil did it and got the benefit of the police not being able to place him the car, a good defense team, and a clueless jury.  The two jurors agree that Gil was most likely there, and mediasalam is not something that an average person can get  hold of.

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The stupidity of the dentist was stunning

The stupidity of the jury was even more stunning.

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[raiderred1]

How much of a sad human do you have to be, to be BFF's with your cheating wife's F-buddy?!?  WTH? I'd just watch the damn Giant's games alone.  With friends like that, who needs enemies?  I agree with the victim's dad in that she(wife) should have punched Gil in the face or kicked him in the balls for kissing her while she was there for a dental appointment. Who does that and gets away with it??? C'mon lady!  Have some self respect! Latin Lover my ass!!  SMH on the "patient" that was at the trial because he knew Gil would never hurt a fly and thought he was innocent. Dude, you are just a patient, y'all aren't huntin' buddies or on a bowling league together. 

Why did Tom park so far away from the front door of the gym at 5 am?  Was he too having an affair of some sort?  Shirt untucked, belt undone, pants unzipped laying back in the seat?

The evidence was pretty strong against BFF Gilberto the former CIA agent. BWAH!  

[Ohmo]

34 minutes ago, raiderred1 said:

Why did Tom park so far away from the front door of the gym at 5 am?  Was he too having an affair of some sort?  Shirt untucked, belt undone, pants unzipped laying back in the seat?

The evidence was pretty strong against BFF Gilberto the former CIA agent. BWAH!

I think Gil staged all that with Tom's clothes.  I think Gil could have also worn gloves, a gown, and a mask from his practice to avoid contaminating the car.  If he could mock up a fake CIA badge, it wouldn't be much for him to know Tom's e-mail address, go to that website, type the address in, and have the e-mail sent to Tom to make it look like he was having an affair.

The report also mentioned that Gil has been convicted of medical fraud in an unrelated case.  I think he is rather cunning and calculating.  He's no choir boy.  He just manages to make people think that he is.

Edited November 5, 2016 by Ohmo

[Albino]

My onscreen TV guide thing-y said this Gil episode was "new" but I know it was on 20/20 or 48 Hours a few months ago.  I feel like the last few "mysteries" on all these shows have been rehashes of previous episodes. 

For the love of god people...we need new murders!

Edited November 5, 2016 by Albino

[editorgrrl]

5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

I have seen the story before, I am assuming on 48 Hours but I didnt really think this story needed to be 2 hours.

Before The Good Husband, the murder of Tom Kolman in Ulster, NY, was featured on 48 Hours ("Death and the Dentist"), which had an interview with Gilberto Nunez: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gilberto-nunez-tom-kolman-death-and-the-dentist/

[Ohmo]

56 minutes ago, Albino said:

My onscreen TV guide thing-y said this Gil episode was "new" but I know it was on 20/20 or 48 Hours a few months ago.

The "new" designation likely applies to the show (Dateline), not the case the episode is profiling.  It is a new episode for Dateline, regardless of the other shows who have also reported on the case.

[UsernameFatigue]

I thought it was ironic that the two detectives being interviewed for the episode joked that they had said this would make a good Dateline story, then it was revealed that in their interview with Nunez where he lied about having midazolam in his practice, that could not be shown to the jury as he had not been read his rights. I guess the detectives have learned nothing from watching Dateline. 

OTOH, it would not have mattered with this jury apparently. As others have said, who gives a sedative to someone to help them sleep in the morning before Tom is going to the gym and then to work? Also the defense saying that Nunez had no reason to kill Tom because the wife had not broken up with him made no sense. That would be the reason in my mind, to speed things along so he could start a life with her. 

I hope those who blindly supported Nunez have changed their minds after his forgery and now insurance fraud convictions. But then again, they may not be any brighter than the jury. 

[Fable]

4 hours ago, Ohmo said:

Me: At 4:30 am?  In his car?  In a parking lot at the gym?  He's just helping his buddy get some sleep with mediasalam (sp)?  Yeah, that sounds like a completely normal thing to do.  The fact that juror bought that as a plausible narrative boggles the mind!

Not only did she buy it, but it was my understanding that not only did the defense not present it as a likely scenario; she concocted it in her mind to convince herself that she reached the right verdict.