S08.E11: November 1, 2022

[Emma Snyder]

Airs Tuesday, November 1 at 8:00PM EDT.

[DEL901]

The jerk who took his dying dog’s favourite toy with him on the Bachelorette and also insulted Gabby.   Jerk.  

[phlebas]

Rambo is still alive? Or does he not really have cancer? Or is Hayden's life just a series of dogs named Rambo?

[Stats Queen]

Shanae to the jerk, “what are your core values?”

The jerk: “I have a golden retriever”

Make it make sense

[phlebas]

"Hi, Kate! This is Rambo's food bowl and cancer medicine."

[DEL901]

Kate complaining about Logan’s low energy…that’s him in a nutshell.   

And funny Kate is on the same page as Eliza…tell me you’d prefer I didn’t go so I know you care.  …especially with Logan and Rodney practically pushing the women at the other guys and being disappointed when they agree.  

6 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Shanae to the jerk, “what are your core values?”

The jerk: “I have a golden retriever”

Make it make sense

He has made the dog his whole personality….not stopping to think how it looks that even though he loves his sick dog more than anything, he has no problem dumping the dog twice to go on tv.  I’m sure he’d never dump a woman that way….would he?

[phlebas]

I want a woman with a good job, tight buns, and no agency. Kate, come on down!

[DEL901]

One thing about Kate, she is totally reading Hayden and not being taken in by him.   LOL.  It is Pizza Peter and Brittany part 2. 

[dizzyd]

Is the dog even real? I don’t remember seeing a pic of him with the dog. He’d be good for Victoria coz I don’t believe her either. 

[Shorty186]

Does Hayden think it's going to endear himself to women to talk about how much he loves his dog to the point of paying a hundred thousand dollars to extend his life yet you still. Leave him. To do a reality show. Twice.

And he clearly believes he did nothing wrong to Rachel/Gabby which is why he so readily admits what he said to Kate.

[phlebas]

I lost a dog to cancer a few months ago, and it SUCKS, and I find I'm quickly running out of patience for Hayden's crap

[Melonie77]

Hayden is totally clueless about how he comes off.
It's ridiculous that they allowed Justin to come back. They've set a precedent now.
I've never noticed how much the show messes with the cast before. Production allowed Justin back in to cause problems for Rodney and they had Florence keep Alex to create issues for Johnny.

[phlebas]

"I thought I was doing the right thing by giving her the option to choose"?

WTF Rodney?

[DEL901]

24 minutes ago, phlebas said:

"I thought I was doing the right thing by giving her the option to choose"?

WTF Rodney?

Idiot.  He did NOT give her the option.  Does he think he has veto power?   She just wanted to hear him express how he felt, not give permission.  
 

eta. To clarify, when I objected to him saying he gave her the option….no he did not giver her the option. The show and Justin did.  When she asked Rodney his thoughts, he indicated she should go on the date. 

Edited November 2, 2022 by DEL901

[SHD]

Paraphrasing…

Logan: If you want to explore going on a date with Hayden, I think you should be allowed that experience.

Kate: Logan acted like he didn’t care if I lived or died! 

[dizzyd]

So are we expecting the twin kids to be less boring than the 1st time? 

[Shorty186]

I personally didn't find anything wrong with Rodney's response to Eliza about the date last night. He's a nice guy and didn't want to be a hypocrite. If Eliza wants a caveman-type, that's just not Rodney. And now she just wants to punish him.

[Ms Blue Jay]

I really don't like Eliza.  "The woman has no agency" is not a relationship style I subscribe to.  In fact, it really bothers me.

15 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

Idiot.  He did NOT give her the option.  Does he think he has veto power?   She just wanted to hear him express how he felt, not give permission.  

He did give her the option.  She could choose.  She could have done anything she wanted under the sun and why should Rodney have decided for her?

Rodney did express everything he felt, and let her make the decision.

3 minutes ago, Shorty186 said:

I personally didn't find anything wrong with Rodney's response to Eliza about the date last night. He's a nice guy and didn't want to be a hypocrite. If Eliza wants a caveman-type, that's just not Rodney. And now she just wants to punish him.

The whole thing is just extremely manipulative.

[phlebas]

21 minutes ago, dizzyd said:

So are we expecting the twin kids to be less boring than the 1st time? 

After 90 seconds... No

20 minutes ago, Shorty186 said:

I personally didn't find anything wrong with Rodney's response to Eliza about the date last night. He's a nice guy and didn't want to be a hypocrite. If Eliza wants a caveman-type, that's just not Rodney. And now she just wants to punish him.

And then Kate started reading the same script! Is this a new thing among 20 somethings?

Edited November 2, 2022 by phlebas

[dizzyd]

Did wells card them?

[Kiss my mutt]

This has got to be the cringiest date ever. Licking a hairy armpit? 

[phlebas]

I think at 30 you have hit the point where you need to date people old enough to rent a car. Not that Shanae wants my advice.

[dizzyd]

Gosh they’re so flat boring. Yup the WS is more entertaining. 

[Jaundiced Eye]

Eliza isn't the "sweet girl" everyone assumes she is. She's a manipulator who enjoys jerking guys around. Her cruel little smug smiles and goofy faces when Rodney was trying to fix things made me want to shove a grapefruit in her face. Rodney deserves better than that little toad.

[Stats Queen]

1 minute ago, Jaundiced Eye said:

Eliza isn't the "sweet girl" everyone assumes she is. She's a manipulator who enjoys jerking guys around. Her cruel little smug smiles and goofy faces when Rodney was trying to fix things made me want to shove a grapefruit in her face. Rodney deserves better than that little toad.

1000%

[phlebas]

Oh thank God. We're about to get 30 minutes of Aaron and Genevieve grumping at each other

[Kiss my mutt]

Genevieve just can’t leave well enough alone. FFS

[Stats Queen]

Genevieve is a nightmare. if this is what she is like in a relationship of maybe two weeks, what would she be like to be with for a lifetime?

[Ms Blue Jay]

9 minutes ago, Jaundiced Eye said:

Eliza isn't the "sweet girl" everyone assumes she is. She's a manipulator who enjoys jerking guys around. Her cruel little smug smiles and goofy faces when Rodney was trying to fix things made me want to shove a grapefruit in her face. Rodney deserves better than that little toad.

+100.  People assume she's sweet because she looks very sweet.  But she isn't.

Rodney is a Bachelorette franchise darling.  There are thousands of women waiting to date him.  (Actually, he has over 100,000 followers so holy crap, probably more than I thought.)

I just said in the last episode thread that Genevieve craves drama.  Well, guess what, like clockwork, it's FEEDING TIME!!!!!! 😄

Edited November 2, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[dizzyd]

Why are they having this fight in the communal bed in front of everyone?

[Ms Blue Jay]

How is this not a Bro Vacation?  😄😄😄

That is EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!

A producer definitely forced Victoria to chase Genevieve.  The fact that Gen had to lock her out is so extreme.  Victoria could have just respected that she didn't want to talk.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[phlebas]

Maybe Genevieve will get mad enough to realize Aaron's nipples point straight down.

[dizzyd]

This may be harsh, but good luck to the future Mr. Genevieve and her kids. 

[Shorty186]

Whoa I actually think I'm on Genevieve's side. Aaron just blew up. It very well may be residual hurt feelings from the Justin thing, but from what they showed, she's barely gotten two words out before he goes off. It could be the editing and hopefully it is because I've always liked Aaron.

[Jaundiced Eye]

I haven't watched BIP for a long time. Are the women getting more unstable? Jill, Genevieve, Eliza, that crazy doctor? What a bunch of toxic, exhausting women.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Genevieve did gaslight:

Genevieve:  "Sorry that I actually wanted 10 minutes."

There is absolutely nothing in that sentence that was sincere.  Aaron was upset that she started a fight out of the blue, and Genevieve refused to own that.  She just said a bunch of sarcastic jabs instead.  It was a fake apology as a jab to him.  No wonder Aaron said she makes him feel so bad.

[DEL901]

3 minutes ago, Jaundiced Eye said:

I haven't watched BIP for a long time. Are the women getting more unstable? Jill, Genevieve, Eliza, that crazy doctor? What a bunch of toxic, exhausting women.

It is crazy when Shanae doesn’t make the top 5.  

[b2H]

Gen and the lunkhead are both unsuited for each other.  Enough.

[Kiss my mutt]

Let her go!

[alexa]

7 minutes ago, Shorty186 said:

Whoa I actually think I'm on Genevieve's side. Aaron just blew up. It very well may be residual hurt feelings from the Justin thing, but from what they showed, she's barely gotten two words out before he goes off. It could be the editing and hopefully it is because I've always liked Aaron.

I agree.  I think he was being kind of a jerk.  And just now he was a bigger jerk for no real reason.  I think he just wants to look like he is the nice one and tries to elevate himself by making the other person look bad.

[Jaundiced Eye]

1 minute ago, b2H said:

Gen and the lunkhead are both unsuited for each other.  Enough.

I agree. Gen has bugged me from the first  day, but I do agree with her that Aaron prefers hanging with the bros. I never got the sense that he's all that into her.

[DEL901]

Give it up Aaron.  Regardless who was right or wrong, things are not salvageable.    

And the two eavesdroppers are wrong.  Arguing like that doesn’t mean feelings of love…. It means the relationship is toxic. 

Time for James to return so he and Aaron can run off together again.  

[Shorty186]

Omg. WHHAAAAAAT?

This is not an example of a healthy relationship.

[leocadia]

I'm about an hour behind the real-time broadcast, but I had to pause watching to come here and ask if Logan just used the word "churlish", and even more surprisingly, used it correctly in a sentence?   Maybe I've been wrong about him all along, it's his big vocab energy that brings the ladies flocking.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Of course Victoria and Eliza cheer on Genevieve's manipulative tactics.

[dizzyd]

That’s 3 times in a row the ladies give out roses! How many more episodes are there? 

[Ms Blue Jay]

As an aside, I don't care that they brought Justin back.  They'll probably bring back whoever they want that asks to come back.

Look at the special treatment they gave Michael.  They gave him someone to string along, that poor sweet young girl, and then he dumped her ass, and then they brought in Danielle (?) and then he didn't have to compete in Casa Amor.  Straight up bullshit.  How is what happened with Justin less fair than that, you know what I mean?

Edited November 2, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[SHD]

I guess Michael doesn’t remember how Sid and Nancy ended up.

[Jaundiced Eye]

2 minutes ago, SHD said:

I guess Michael doesn’t remember how Sid and Nancy ended up.

I think he remembers exactly. He just doesn't want to say it. He knows that relationship is toxic.

[Katie111]

I actually enjoyed the date with the twins (besides maybe licking the armpit!).  At least they all had fun.  Beats sitting in a 120 degree hut with some topless guy lighting candles and telling you to share your feelings.  Shanae and Florence know they are not getting an engagement as Paradise is getting close to the end, so why not just have some fun with some young fresh meat.