Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[Rodney]

Nice Eric/Holly scenes.  It's good that they made up before Eric left again to go back to Paris.

So Sophia eats snail-based dishes?  I'd thought that escargot was the only dish ever made out of snails.  It was also cute to hear that Holly and Sophia had actually been close since first grade, at least.

I kind of dig Tate with Sophia.  Yet part of me hopes that he and Holly reconcile, too.

Good Cat/Mark scenes.  I was glad to see that they're remorseful about this.  As they should be.  I do hope that Chad forgives them.  When he remembers what a monster Clyde is, he'll surely come to understand their actions.

Liked Steve and Marlena's scenes.  Too bad Drake can't be here to play John's relief at Konstantin's daughter being alive, after all.

Decent episode today.

[Rodney]

Oh, for some sadness, they had an "In Loving Memory" tribute to Drake at the end of the episode.

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

Nice Eric/Holly scenes.  It's good that they made up before Eric left again to go back to Paris.

They were...but did we even get to see Maggie talking with Holly about her opinion of Eric? About how he grieved Daniel and beat himself up? I'd have loved to see those scenes.

Tate and Sophia have a lot of chemistry. I'm glad things are tilting towards them as a couple. Let Holly be single for a while. Such a shame Eric and Nicole are gone now, though. She needed more time with her real parents.

Tough seeing this John Is Innocent stuff playing out knowing Drake doesn't get to be a part of it. They obviously couldn't remove John from the plot - it was written to absolve him, clearly - but still. His absence is pretty keenly felt.

Glad they did the dedication at the end...but damn. It hurt to see that. Poor Drake. I hope he wasn't in too much pain these last few months. He was so strong for so long on this show. Difficult to think of him suffering.

Edited October 29 by DisneyBoy

[brisbydog]

Where is Maggie? We last saw her on her way to see Kristen to confront her about holding the serum hostage. Did Kristen stick her in the secret room? You'd think Maggie should have been around for Fiona's arrest and Xander trying to give away Titan.

[Rodney]

3 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Where is Maggie? We last saw her on her way to see Kristen to confront her about holding the serum hostage. Did Kristen stick her in the secret room? You'd think Maggie should have been around for Fiona's arrest and Xander trying to give away Titan.

They probably cut the scenes.  There've been plenty of accounts of scenes they've taped, but ultimately didn't make the final cut.

[brisbydog]

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

They probably cut the scenes.  There've been plenty of accounts of scenes they've taped, but ultimately didn't make the final cut.

And yet we get so many full on episodes of Body and Soul...

[SouthernChick]

I can’t stand Sophia. She is so entitled.  

[CanaryFan98]

On 10/29/2024 at 1:03 AM, DisneyBoy said:

If it continues to get renewed, I wonder if they'll reinvest in the Lucas/Carrie generation of characters, who theoretically have room left to grow.

I can't see the Sophia/Tate generation carrying things.

I don’t either but bringing back Lucas etc would work

[Rodney]

15 hours ago, SouthernChick said:

I can’t stand Sophia. She is so entitled.  

How so, exactly?  I haven't seen that from her at all.

[brisbydog]

35 minutes ago, Rodney said:

How so, exactly?  I haven't seen that from her at all.

I love Sophia. She is far more interesting than Holly

[SouthernChick]

Still hate Sophia. But liking Brady and Ava together.

[ASpring1900]

I usually love the Halloween stand alone episodes. This was a little rough. However, it seemed like the cast was having fun with it!

[DisneyBoy]

....how rough?

 

I still have time to decide if I want to skip it 😅

If its Leo-heavy and corny, I'll skip.

Edited October 31 by DisneyBoy

[brisbydog]

22 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

....how rough?

 

I still have time to decide if I want to skip it 😅

If its Leo-heavy and corny, I'll skip.

I only watched the last 5 minutes but it was both Leo heavy and corny.

[DisneyBoy]

I gave it 15 minutes.

 

Today is scary bad.

 

You've been warned.

[Rodney]

1 hour ago, ASpring1900 said:

I usually love the Halloween stand alone episodes. This was a little rough. However, it seemed like the cast was having fun with it!

Eesh.  And how.  But yes, the cast seemed to be enjoying the corniness.  And some parts were actually pretty funny.  But the whole of it was rough.

[rcc]

So bad! 

[Artsda]

Wow that wasn't good. But I guess it was supposed to be campy bad. 

I did laugh at accusing him of being the neck tie killer and he said wrong storyline. 

 

[Rodney]

Nice aunt/niece scenes between Sarah and Holly.  Well, save for the moments when Linsey slipped into her baby-talking voice.

Well, if Tate and Sophia had sex that quickly, then they're not the endgame teen couple.  It's pretty obvious that Tate's endgame is going to be Holly.

It sounds like Philip's letter from Victor was actually real.  And it's good that he's hesitating in the plan because of Sarah's condition.

The fact that Xander even talked about Philip being, whether by his hand or not, continues to show that he hasn't changed a lick.  He's just continuing to push his old self down.

Johnny and Joy really did have sex, didn't they?

John-Paul needs to be careful with the physical theatrics.  It's good that he gives his performances all that he has, but neither Jay nor Kyle would've played Philip like that.

When Vivian mentioned carrying Philip in her womb for nine months, I wish that Philip had said, "Because you stole my embryo from my mother!"

Are the blue streaks in her hair part of Kate's character are part of Lauren?

[DisneyBoy]

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

Nice aunt/niece scenes between Sarah and Holly.  Well, save for the moments when Linsey slipped into her baby-talking voice.

Agreed! They sounded like two teenagers giggling.

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

It sounds like Philip's letter from Victor was actually real.  And it's good that he's hesitating in the plan because of Sarah's condition.

Or he thinks it's real and Viv took a page from Theresa's handbook. Poor Philip. Sad that Victor lost confidence in him.

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

John-Paul needs to be careful with the physical theatrics. 

I think you meant "fired for the physical theatrics."

It's absurd what he's trying to get away with. Is he trolling them?

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

Are the blue streaks in her hair part of Kate's character are part of Lauren?

It's Lauren paying homage to a friend. They've been there, without explanation, for a good 15 years now.

I really enjoyed Kate warning Chanel about jealousy by using Philip's storyline as an example. I don't remember her saying much about him faking his death since it happened...but there was plenty today.

Are they going to mention Chloe though? Did Nancy?

Johnny's being sabotaged and I intensely dislike it. A great new couple are being sacrificed so RSW can have love scenes. Bleah.

[Desperado]

4 hours ago, Rodney said:

John-Paul needs to be careful with the physical theatrics.  It's good that he gives his performances all that he has, but neither Jay nor Kyle would've played Philip like that.

58 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I think you meant "fired for the physical theatrics."

It's absurd what he's trying to get away with. Is he trolling them?

He’s acting like he’s on Body and Soul. That says it all.

So DOOL decided to laugh at themselves and make fun of the “Marlena was a serial killer but everyone was alive on an island” plot fans have been making fun of, for 20 yrs.

The execution wasn’t great and RSW had to be the damn lead, but what the hell. Go big or go home!

Happy renewal day, Days!

[CanaryFan98]

I don't know if Tate/Holly are endgame I could buy it with the previous Tate but not this one. 

Especially with the writing change soon. Then again we still have Shelle despite many regime changes so what do I know?

[brisbydog]

Not that thrilling for a Friday episode. I don't care about the teen drama, especially if Tate is going to dump poor Sophia just because toxic Holly comes crawling back. The Joy/Johnny/Chanel stuff is stupid. I liked Vivian and Philip together very much, the actors are fantastic together, and I am looking forward to the Kate/Viv confrontation Monday.

 

Other than that, I liked old partners in crime Xander and Kristen trying to force each other to murder Philip, Xander's 'terse' acknowledgement of Chanel after he hollered at Kate, and him noting during said hollering that Philip would never have cooked up this scheme by himself.

Hope we get something more exciting tomorrow at Day of Days in terms of a preview of more exciting things to come.

[Giuseppe]

On 11/1/2024 at 5:21 PM, DisneyBoy said:

Are they going to mention Chloe though? Did Nancy?

I'm wating for this, too. Kate and Chloe don't exactly like each other...I wouldn't think Kate would be so nicey-nice to Joy.

[Rodney]

Has Vivian always called Philip her son?  Even though he's Kate's?  It's annoying how she won't accept or admit that.

Buuuuuuuut it looks like she forged the letter, after all.  And Philip knows about it.  I really wanted him in the dark about that.

Oh, shit!  I realized over the weekend that Ava will now be running the Bistro alone now that Stefan's gone!  That's going to be rough!  But it looks like she's Sophia's new confidante in Fiona's place.

If they're trying to make Brady, Kristen, and Rachel look like a cute family so that we can hope for Brady and Kristen to reunite . . . I'm not sold.

Philip took a big chance.  Shocked that his risk paid off.

Another instance in which someone should've shut up and listened.  Tate tried to tell Holly about sleeping with Sophia, and she just . . . kept not letting him get in a word edgewise.

Okay episode.

[DisneyBoy]

Philip, since when has Xander struggled with following-through? That's actually his number one problem! Ask Marlena and Brady!

Seriously, JPL is just imitating Ryan Reynolds at this point. It's annoying because Philip's dialogue has been solid and yet he totally undermines it.

Since when has Sophia confided in Ava? Feels like, after Fiona, she might just stop trusting creepy older gals with her private life.

I really found it comforting to see Stacey attempt to eat a cookie.

Poor Brady. Even his happy moments with Kristen and Rachel are sad...because they're both crazy and he'll only get hurt in the end.

Holly has matured more in the last few weeks than in the last few months. Nice to see.

[4evaQuez]

On 11/3/2024 at 12:47 PM, Giuseppe said:

I'm wating for this, too. Kate and Chloe don't exactly like each other...I wouldn't think Kate would be so nicey-nice to Joy.

The show no longer sees Kate as a villain; her marriage to Roman solidifies that. While I'm certain she'll keep the secret, the show has already indicated that Vivian is manipulating Kate into keeping the secret. Kate isn't doing it for her own villainous reasons.

33 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Has Vivian always called Philip her son?  Even though he's Kate's?  It's annoying how she won't accept or admit that.

 

She did when she first returned to the canvas with Carly in the 2000s. Kate and Vivian sparred about Vivian's "affection" for Philip back then, too. Philip seemed more annoyed and exasperated by Vivian back then. He also didn't trust her, but Vivian calling Philip her son feels in character to me. (Maybe less so since that was before Quinn, Stefan, and Jake all entered the canvas).

19 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Seriously, JPL is just imitating Ryan Reynolds at this point. 

This is a perfect comparison. Both are aggravating actors. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

Has Vivian always called Philip her son?  Even though he's Kate's?  It's annoying how she won't accept or admit that.

She laid on thick on her last visit, too.  Though at that time, Philip blew her off.  I enjoy Vivian but I don't like her.

[rcc]

At least we have the real Vivian back.

[Rodney]

23 minutes ago, boes said:

She laid on thick on her last visit, too.  Though at that time, Philip blew her off.  I enjoy Vivian but I don't like her.

No disrespect intended, but how do you enjoy someone but not like him or her?  Enjoying someone means liking him or her, doesn't it?  That kind of sentence never made sense to me.

[Irlandesa]

33 minutes ago, Rodney said:

No disrespect intended, but how do you enjoy someone but not like him or her?  Enjoying someone means liking him or her, doesn't it?  That kind of sentence never made sense to me.

I'm not boes but I've said this before.  There are some villains I enjoy watching but that doesn't mean I root for them to 'win.'  And then there are some villains or antagonists who catch me in the feels and then I start rooting for them. 

So for Vivian, going way back to when she first appeared, I loved to watch her.  Louise Sorel is a fantastic actress and Vivian's meddling played such an important role in the saga of Lawrence, Katerina (Carly) and Nicky.  She was such a presence.  Her schemes entertained me.  But I could equally dislike her for what she did. 

Lawrence might fall into the category of a villain I loved.  Maybe not at first but the more I learned of his past, the more I found myself rooting for him to get the girl. 

And sometimes there are the anti-hero categories/vixens that an audience falls in love with.  I can't really think of one for me personally on DOOL (but people like Sami or Nicole would be examples), but for me, it was Blair on OLTL or Vicky Hudson on Another World. 

I don't know if that's what boes means by it but that's what I mean by it when I say it.

Edited November 4 by Irlandesa

[Ohiopirate02]

31 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

I'm not boes but I've said this before.  There are some villains I enjoy watching but that doesn't mean I root for them to 'win.'  And then there are some villains or antagonists who catch me in the feels and then I start rooting for them. 

So for Vivian, going way back to when she first appeared, I loved to watch her.  Louise Sorel is a fantastic actress and Vivian's meddling played such an important role in the saga of Lawrence, Katerina (Carly) and Nicky.  She was such a presence.  Her schemes entertained me.  But I could equally dislike her for what she did. 

Lawrence might fall into the category of a villain I loved.  Maybe not at first but the more I learned of his past, the more I found myself rooting for him to get the girl. 

And sometimes there are the anti-hero categories/vixens that an audience falls in love with.  I can't really think of one for me personally on DOOL (but people like Sami or Nicole would be examples), but for me, it was Blair on OLTL or Vicky Hudson on Another World. 

I don't know if that's what boes means by it but that's what I mean by it when I say it.

I feel the same way. Louise has fun playing Vivian and her scene partners tend to have fun as well. There's wit and banter and life. Everything that I find lacking with some of the other villains and grey characters of late like Clyde, Kristen, Konstantine, etc.  Though I do think James Read has fun filming his scenes, it's a shame none of the other actors play well against him. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

No disrespect intended, but how do you enjoy someone but not like him or her?  Enjoying someone means liking him or her, doesn't it?  That kind of sentence never made sense to me.

None taken.  What I mean is that while I don't like the character, I do enjoy their machinations.  For instance, I like who the character Maggie is and I enjoy watching her storylines and interactions.  I don't like who Vivian is or what she does to people, but she sure is fun to watch and root against.

Now a character like Ava, I just don't like or enjoy watching.

[SouthernChick]

Xander actually pulled the trigger on Philip today. If there were bullets in the gun, Phil would have been dead.  I’m glad they haven’t stripped Xander of his dark side, but I never thought he would stoop to murder.

[Rodney]

9 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

Xander actually pulled the trigger on Philip today. If there were bullets in the gun, Phil would have been dead.  I’m glad they haven’t stripped Xander of his dark side, but I never thought he would stoop to murder.

The plot against Brady wasn't enough of an indication that he would?

[SouthernChick]

9 minutes ago, Rodney said:

The plot against Brady wasn't enough of an indication that he would?

Was he going to kill Brady or just break his legs with a baseball bat?

[Rodney]

1 minute ago, SouthernChick said:

Was he going to kill Brady or just break his legs with a baseball bat?

Kill.  After the bat thing, he had Brady drugged by some guy on the street, and while he was passed out in his bed, Xander was going to shot him in the head and make it look like a suicide.  Only Sarah calling Jada and lying that she'd remembered seeing Brady behind the wheel of the car saved him from certain death.

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, Rodney said:

Has Vivian always called Philip her son?  Even though he's Kate's?  It's annoying how she won't accept or admit that.

Buuuuuuuut it looks like she forged the letter, after all.  And Philip knows about it.  I really wanted him in the dark about that.

Oh, shit!  I realized over the weekend that Ava will now be running the Bistro alone now that Stefan's gone!  That's going to be rough!  But it looks like she's Sophia's new confidante in Fiona's place.

If they're trying to make Brady, Kristen, and Rachel look like a cute family so that we can hope for Brady and Kristen to reunite . . . I'm not sold.

Philip took a big chance.  Shocked that his risk paid off.

Another instance in which someone should've shut up and listened.  Tate tried to tell Holly about sleeping with Sophia, and she just . . . kept not letting him get in a word edgewise.

Okay episode.

For the most part yes she does. Which I would accept in a twisted way if not for the fact that they have given her three retcon sons since which ended up defeating a large part of why she carried Phillip to begin with. Then again Vivian always claims ownership of other women's kids. For years she raised Nicholas as her adopted son and kept him from Lawrence/Carly for years.

Agreed on Bristen. I don't get why they can't have Brady settle down with a sane woman and deal with family drama now with John gone. He's enough of a fuck up on his own without adding a crazy lady.

The Tate/Holly thing reminds me of Austin/Carrie in the 90s when Austin tried to tell Carrie about Sami(at the time he thought he was drunk and not drugged) but Carrie wouldn't let him tell her. All this was saved up for the big reveal.

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I feel the same way. Louise has fun playing Vivian and her scene partners tend to have fun as well. There's wit and banter and life.

Beautifully put. Louise has been bringing her A-game this time around. No flinching, no hesitation, just snappy delivery and energy to spare. I really wish they'd give her a full-time contract because her brief stints are far too brief for my liking.

[norcalgal]

8 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Louise Sorel is a fantastic actress and Vivian's meddling played such an important role in the saga of Lawrence, Katerina (Carly) and Nicky.  She was such a presence.  Her schemes entertained me.  But I could equally dislike her for what she did. 

Lawrence might fall into the category of a villain I loved.  Maybe not at first but the more I learned of his past, the more I found myself rooting for him to get the girl. 

Soooooo many feels regarding the quotes above.  Man did I LOVE that whole plot involving Carly, Lawrence, Nicky and Vivian.  Thanks to YouTube, I have rewatched snippets of the storyline over and over these many years.

ummm, which “girl” did you root for Lawrence to end with?  Me, I was SUCH a Carly/Lawrence fan because their chemistry was so powerful. For me, it leapt out of the screen!  And when I found out years later (after the characters were no longer on Days) that the actors were married IRL, omg did I squeal like a little girl. 

[Irlandesa]

4 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

ummm, which “girl” did you root for Lawrence to end with?  Me, I was SUCH a Carly/Lawrence fan because their chemistry was so powerful.

Is there anyone else?  I know he dated Lisette for a while.  But for Lawrence, there was only Carly. 

[norcalgal]

10 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

Is there anyone else?  I know he dated Lisette for a while.  But for Lawrence, there was only Carly. 

I loved, loved, loved how he called her Katerina (not exclusively though) when it was just the two of them in the same room. 
And I posed my question because Lawrence was most definitely not a white hat hero. Very Xander-ish come to think of it. So I wondered if anyone else shipped Carly/Lawrence like I did.

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, norcalgal said:

I loved, loved, loved how he called her Katerina (not exclusively though) when it was just the two of them in the same room. 
And I posed my question because Lawrence was most definitely not a white hat hero. Very Xander-ish come to think of it. So I wondered if anyone else shipped Carly/Lawrence like I did.

Bo and Carly were likely more popular but there were definitely plenty of us who shipped Lawrence and Carly.  I was a sucker for their backstory and absolutely loved the tense simmering that happened in the scenes where they got stuck with one another.  I will not speak of what became of them when Crystal Chappel decided to come back.

There has been periodic talk about them in the Past Plots thread.

Edited November 5 by Irlandesa

[SouthernChick]

I loved Bo and Carly when Bo was played by PR. Once RKK took over, Carbo lost their chemistry and I began rooting for Lawrence and Carly.

[ASpring1900]

18 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Since when has Sophia confided in Ava? Feels like, after Fiona, she might just stop trusting creepy older gals with her private life.

I believe Sophia has said she doesn't have the greatest relationship with her own mom, so that may be why she confides in other older women.

The conversation between Tate and Brady today was interesting. Tate said he slept with Sophia, and Brady was very unfazed. He did at the end say Tate would be in trouble if he had another co-ed sleepover, but, unless I missed it, there was not one word about protection. Tate is like 17, right? If Sophia got pregnant, it could completely change the course of Tate's life. (Do I sound like a prude?)

We did get a glimpse of Leo Howard's arm tattoo when he hugged Brady, then later, Holly's bright pink lipstick ended up on Tate's white shirt after the two of them hugged. I'm always surprised more makeup doesn't end up on shirts-- setting spray, maybe?

Also, what was Jada doing picking up a phone call from Rafe during Vivian's arrest? I know it was to set up Jada possibly getting shot, but come on! Rafe didn't even know she was at the Salem Inn, so it wasn't like he was calling her with information that would be time sensitive to this case.

That's all I got from my 6 AM Days viewing!

[DisneyBoy]

Ahh dang...Viv gets arrested?

Is there some rule I can't enjoy her for more than 3 episodes a year?

[Sunrain]

12 hours ago, norcalgal said:

I loved, loved, loved how he called her Katerina (not exclusively though) when it was just the two of them in the same room. 
And I posed my question because Lawrence was most definitely not a white hat hero. Very Xander-ish come to think of it. So I wondered if anyone else shipped Carly/Lawrence like I did.

What made Lawrence unique and perfect as a villain was that he was neither the obsessive type like Cal Winters nor the sleazy type like Johnny Corelli. He was a great villain of complex nature. Ruthless, confident, fearsome, commanding, charming, mysterious, classy, and even caring all wrapped up in his personality. One'd be simultaneously afraid and mesmerized in his proximity. He was on par with Stefano in the villain league.

Fun trivias about Michael Sabatino. He was a pole vaulter in real life. While attending University of Califnornia at Irvine, MS set a school record. He then earned All-American honors and place 13th in 1976 Olympic Trials. 

Edited November 5 by Sunrain

[DisneyBoy]

Brady's getting some nice mature parental moments with his kids this week...it's about time!

Really good work from the Holly actress.

I still wish this was the original Tate - he was so kind-hearted and inexperienced - but even though this guy reads as "experienced" he's not bad.

I kinda like Javi but I dread where things are going with him. He has crazy eyes and will probably do crimes with Leo. And be forced to worship him.

Clever move from Kate, but DAMN Louise was on fire. I want her to stay. Fire three other actors and keep her, damnit!

[Rodney]

I am in shock.  Tate actually wants to stay with Sophia.  Didn't see that one coming.  But I don't see it going well with him still having feelings for Holly.

[CanaryFan98]

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

I am in shock.  Tate actually wants to stay with Sophia.  Didn't see that one coming.  But I don't see it going well with him still having feelings for Holly.

I was surprised he told her. I get Tate thinks he's being noble not dumping her afterwards but he's an even bigger jerk if he's stringing her along like this. Unless the twist is he does fall for her and Sophia finds out the truth.

17 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Is there anyone else?  I know he dated Lisette for a while.  But for Lawrence, there was only Carly. 

He had a fling with Kimberly also and there was this other blonde chick he had a flirtation with her name escapes me but he only loved Carly. 

Yes I enjoyed Lawrence/Carly one of my favorite couples on this show.