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On 6/19/2022 at 2:02 AM, Bastet said:

As posted here, it was reported back in April that it will not:

Bringing up this old post, of which I had asked about the Aqua tune and was answered.

Apparently, either more money became involved or Aqua decided it wanted to cash in, after all, but the song will be involved...with a twist.

It is sampled in the Nicki Minaj song, "Barbie World", for the movie.

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AimingforYoko
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If this movie doesn't drive a stake in the heart of the "Go Woke, Go Broke" narrative, nothing will. I gotta give Greta credit, she laid it on the line and now she can write her own ticket. There

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So far this is the best Barbenheimer poster I’ve seen:  

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Unfortunately, when I googled “Oppenheimer” the screen did not explode into nuclear Armageddon. Missed opportunity!

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Trini

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Well, before the big promo push, the movie is getting some viral attention with a meme based on the trailer:

 

Besides the replies to that tweet, I found a couple websites that collected some of the better ones; but the real action is on tumblr, where there are scores of different versions with various characters.

https://gizmodo.com/barbie-ken-mugshot-meme-fanart-roundup-fandom-movie-1850484680

https://www.themarysue.com/the-barbie-mugshot-memes-have-begun/

https://www.polygon.com/23742686/barbie-movie-mugshot-anime-fan-art-meme

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It feels like whether this movie is loved or hated, it's going to get talked about either way.

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It's an unofficial prompt for fan artists to draw their favorite ship pairing in that format (along with a few platonic duos), getting their mug shots taken in Barbie and Ken poses. There have been a ton of these on social media since the latest trailer came out. Here some of the ones I really liked:

The articles @Trini linked include plenty more examples.

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Bill1978

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2 hours ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

What the heck does that mean? "A new draw your ship prompt just dropped"... Lol

After reading the explanation, it appears punctuation would have helped in that original tweet, it should be:

A new 'draw your ship' prompt just dropped.

Otherwise, it feels like someone translated a non-English phrase into English using a dodgy Google Translate program. Because I had no idea what was being said until it was explained.

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20 hours ago, Bill1978 said:

Otherwise, it feels like someone translated a non-English phrase into English using a dodgy Google Translate program. Because I had no idea what was being said until it was explained.

The explanation didn't explain what a "ship" is, so I'm still in the dark.

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Trini

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The explanation didn't explain what a "ship" is, so I'm still in the dark.

It's short for "relationship"; used as a noun, it refers to a couple or pairing. Barbie and Ken, Superman and Lois, Kermit and Miss Piggy are examples of "ships". (ETA: But it doesn't necessarily have to be a canon romantic couple.)

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I wasn't sure if or how much Barbie Movie merch there would be, but here's a gallery of the dolls: https://gizmodo.com/mattel-barbie-movie-dolls-margot-robbie-ryan-gosling-1850496248

LOL at the Ken photos!

I find it interesting that they didn't make them in the likeness of the actors. Also there's one Barbie outfit in there that wasn't in the trailers.

The actors react to their doll counterparts: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs9XGUgvwnP/

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Best day ever! 💖 We caught up with #MargotRobbie, @IssaRae, @SimuLiu, and @AmericaFerrera to reveal a first look at some of the official #BarbieTheMovie dolls inspired by their characters in the film, in theaters July 21.

 

Mattel's Barbie Movie shop.

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Article about the costumes (with several new promo photos) with the costume designer at British Vogue:

'...Jacqueline Durran On Vintage Chanel, Ken’s Pants And Styling The Film Of The Summer'

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“Barbie really is interlinked with fashion, because how you play with her is by dressing her,” says costume designer Jacqueline Durran. “Clothes are her form of expression.” After winning an Oscar for her work on 2019’s Little Women, director Greta Gerwig asked Durran back for her next project: kitting out an entire Barbie world. Durran (who hails from London) noticed the process was different to that of her other projects: “You don’t treat Barbie like you treat a regular character because the motivation for what she’s wearing isn’t from within.”

Barbie is practical, really. “The defining characteristic of what she wears is where she’s going and what she’s doing,” Durran explains. “It’s about being completely dressed for your job or task.” Every doll is sold with a fashion pack, so to go to the beach, Barbie needs a coordinating dress, playsuit, bag, hat, suitable shoes, and accessories. These clothing sets change and morph depending on what is happening in Barbie Land.

 

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This is really interesting if you're into production design like me; there's a few new clips (very short) and BTS footage with some of the actors.

Also, I don't know if this counts a "spoiler" but this reveals,

Spoiler

Skipper is in this! (probably just going to be a cameo?)

'Margot Robbie Takes You Inside The Barbie Dreamhouse | Architectural Digest'

 

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Shannon L.

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Of my kids was looking at a movie website and said "Barbie tickets are on sale now?" and immediately went to the Universal City Walk (Hollywood) website to buy tickets.  The show time she wanted was sold out already. 

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Bill1978

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I just had the misfortune of listening to Barbie World. For a song that lasts for less than 2 minutes, it felt like it was never going to end. Maybe I've officially outgrown modern popular music, but Barbie World should never have seen the light of day. It's basically Ice Spice and Nicki Minaj rapping over the chorus of Aqua's Barbie Girl. There is no effort made whatsoever to fuse the two pieces together. The best thing about it, is that Aqua gets money from the song. Honestly, feels like it was recorded and included to shut people up. The studio can now say 'We included the song like you wanted, now shut up!'

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Wonkabar5

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Ok, I just listened to it. This is just a promotional video correct? To be shown on social media as advertising for the movie, or will this song and video footage be directly inserted into the movie? 

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On 6/23/2023 at 7:09 PM, Wonkabar5 said:

Ok, I just listened to it. This is just a promotional video correct? To be shown on social media as advertising for the movie, or will this song and video footage be directly inserted into the movie? 

No, pretty sure it's just a music video; I don't think any of that will be in the movie.

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I thought they got the "Barbie world" visuals down, but the song itself is disappointingly 'meh'.

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Also: about the soundtrack, and how it ties in with the movie itself: 'The Super Fun 'Barbie' Soundtrack Is About to Take Over the World'

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The Barbie soundtrack is one of the most important weapons in writer-director Greta Gerwig’s arsenal. Many of the film’s scenes have highly specific musical cues that she was seeking, which means she needed a team on board from the beginning to make the vision come alive.

“You’re hearing lyrics that are responding to what’s happening onscreen, so the music became more than just music — it became a device to enhance what the audience was watching and experiencing, and got to be the voice of the audience,” adds Robbie.

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The Barbie team knew they needed two songs in particular as soon as possible: a showstopping pop number for a highly choreographed dance scene, and a big Eighties-style power ballad for Ken, played by Ryan Gosling.

That was when Oscar- and seven-time Grammy Award-winning producer and songwriter Mark Ronson (A Star Is Born) got a text from his music-supervisor pal George Drakoulias. “Barbie?” is all it said. Ronson Zoomed with the Barbie squad while they were in England prepping for production. They told him they needed at least the basis of a song for the showstopper in two weeks. 

“I don’t read a lot of scripts, but it was just everything I want in a movie,” Ronson recalls. “I was like, ‘If I don’t get this gig, this is gonna be my favorite movie of the year.’ ”

 

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😬 I don't mean to repeat post, but there's so much stuff coming out every day:

More about how this got made at Time (plus a video of the cast): 'How Barbie Came to Life'

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If you are wondering whether Barbie is a satire of a toy company’s capitalist ambitions, a searing indictment of the current fraught state of gender relations, a heartwarming if occasionally clichéd tribute to girl power, or a musical spectacle filled with earworms from Nicki Minaj and Dua Lipa, the answer is yes. All of the above. And then some.

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ETA: Also at Time:

'How Greta Gerwig Got Barbie—From the Clothes to the Dream House—Just Right'

'Why It Took 64 Years to Make a Barbie Movie'

 

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2 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

If this movie does well, classes will be taught about its marketing campaign. Best I've seen since Deadpool. 

It helps that 'Barbie' is already an established brand, and that they're not taking themselves too seriously! But then there's also the viral memes that I don't anyone could have predicted.

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This profile of Gerwig is from December, and it gives a few BTS details about the movie, at NYT:  'Greta Gerwig, in the Pink'

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Another profile, this time focusing on Mattel and its role; at The New Yorker: 'After “Barbie,” Mattel Is Raiding Its Entire Toy Box'

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Before Kreiz took over, Mattel had licensed its flagship properties to an array of studios, and he was intent on reclaiming the rights to Barbie from Sony, where a satirical take on the doll had long been in the works, cycling through such stars as Anne Hathaway and Amy Schumer. A film that ridiculed Barbie, Kreiz believes, would have been disastrous for the brand. “Barbie is aspirational, inspirational—not something you want turned into a parody,” he said. Within two months of his appointment, control of Barbie had reverted to Mattel, and Kreiz had a meeting with Margot Robbie.

Robbie, who played the scandal-prone skater Tonya Harding in “I, Tonya,” is attracted to roles that moviegoers already have strong feelings about—positive or negative. She told me, “There are people who adore Barbie, people who hate Barbie—but the bottom line is everyone knows Barbie.” She wanted a film adaptation to confront those “sharp edges, ” but when she met with Kreiz she led with her desire to take the brand seriously. Two and a half hours later, they were in business together. Soon, Warner Bros. had expressed interest in financing the project.

 

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Interview with Greta Gerwig at Rollingstone: 'The Brain Behind ‘Barbie’: Inside the Brilliant Mind of Greta Gerwig'

*Spoilers* in this one; the interviewer has seen the film, and they discuss certain scenes, even ones from the conclusion.

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Now that you’ve entered this world of big franchises, how will you balance your directing career going forward, between huge commercial films and smaller ones?

I think probably every director has a fantasy baseball league in their head of what movies they want to make. And there’s some movies I’d like to make that require a big canvas. At the same time, I’ve seen so many directors move between bigger movies and smaller movies: Chloé Zhao doing Nomadland and making Eternals. Or Steven Soderbergh, or even my weekend buddy Chris Nolan. He made the Dark Knight trilogy — and they’re wonderful — and then made The Prestige, which is not a tiny movie, but it is also not the same thing. I want to play in lots of different worlds. That’s the goal.

I thought the bolded part was funny considering so many people making a fuss about the "rivalry" between this and Oppenheimer.

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There's speculation that Margot's Barbie has a lesbian awakening moment at seeing America F. and I will seriously be impressed if they do indeed go there. I know Greta and Robie would totally go there if they were allowed to by Mattel. 

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More about how some of the songs came together at Time: 'Mark Ronson Breaks Down the 'Barbie' Soundtrack'

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The overall sound they settled on is a balance of tongue-in-cheek girl power and pop anthems, alongside heartfelt, wistful tunes like HAIM’s “Home” and Tame Impala’s “Journey to the Real World.” Ronson says that those vibes were juxtaposed organically: every artist saw the scene they were going to write for and approached the songs with their own distinct style of music.

Gerwig and Ronson showed artists about 20 minutes of the film to give them a sense of its tone and narrative and told each one where they envisioned their song falling in the story. As they started talking with the musicians, they also realized that each one had meaningful relationships with the doll herself. “Karol G was instantly telling us how much Barbie meant to her,” he says. The HAIM sisters, who called themselves “Barbie specialists,” told him about growing up in the ‘90s and being allowed only one VHS tape: a Barbie film with “cheesy songs.” “I thought everyone was here because Greta Gerwig is making this awesome movie, and there’s been all this buzz around it,” Ronson tells TIME. But he saw that in addition to the filmmaker’s reputation, Barbie herself was a significant draw. “This [film] was really important to a lot of people.

 

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46 minutes ago, Trini said:

To me, this was obviously an over-reaction to a misinterpretation (and then others in the media are over-reacting to the over-reaction because there's so much hype around the film) so I was just ignoring it; but WB responded, so: 'Warner Bros. Explains the Drawing That Got the Film Banned in Vietnam'

I don’t have an opinion on the reaction by Vietnam or the media but I I’m calling BS on the explanation. I don’t for a second believe that it is a journey line of eight dashes in the general vicinity of the nine dash line. Some deliberately made that choice (probably someone in props) so pretending it’s a coincidence is just stupid. 

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1 hour ago, Cress said:

I wonder if they CGI remove the line, then they can get it unbanned in Vietnam? It just seems weird to keep it if it causes controversy.

Removing it could result in the movie being banned in China. Which is probably why the line was there to begin with. Other movies have been banned in the region for depicting the line so this can’t have been much of a surprise to the studio. 

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Is there also a Chinese investor in the film as well? Because I thought I remember reading about something similar (the presence of a Taiwan patch?) with the Top Gun 2. Then the investor pulled out. 

Anyway- “journey map lines “ in/of the Real World? Why in the China South Seas specifically? How bout Europe? 😂

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On 7/8/2023 at 4:45 PM, Wonkabar5 said:

Is there also a Chinese investor in the film as well? ...

I haven't heard of any, but that info might not be publicly available.

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Anyway- “journey map lines “ in/of the Real World? Why in the China South Seas specifically? How bout Europe? 😂 

There are other "journey lines" on the (wildly unrealistic) map. A better look at the whole thing is in the first few seconds of this promo: https://youtu.be/Y2GZ0z-DleA

It'd be a weirdly specific thing to include when the image doesn't depict China, The Line, the other countries that dispute The Line, or the South China Sea with any type of accuracy - or at all.

 

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1 hour ago, Trini said:

It'd be a weirdly specific thing to include when the image doesn't depict China, The Line, the other countries that dispute The Line, or the South China Sea with any type of accuracy - or at all.

Not really given the lengths studios go to to try a make sure a movie will open in China. It’s exactly the type of thing I could see them doing as a form of appeasement while hoping the inaccuracy of the map would let it fly under the radar.

On 7/8/2023 at 1:45 PM, Wonkabar5 said:

Is there also a Chinese investor in the film as well?

I don’t know if there is one specifically for Barbie but Warner Bros Discovery does have ties to China and his actively trying to grow that market. 

The movie will probably benefit more from the publicity than it will be hurt by being banned in one or two countries. 

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1 hour ago, Dani said:

Not really given the lengths studios go to to try a make sure a movie will open in China.

Would this not have opened in China without a squiggly line on a background prop?

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32 minutes ago, Trini said:

Would this not have opened in China without a squiggly line on a background prop?

I doubt it would in this situation but it is a possibility. China has blocked a lot of US releases for all kinds of reasons. I saw speculation that it could be blocked just because Simu Liu is in the movie. Shang-Chi was banned for that reason. Keanu Reeves moves are also being banned there. They ban a lot and a lot of movie decision are made based on trying to secure a Chinese release and appeal to a Chinese audience which is becoming increasingly difficult. 

I wasn’t thinking that they included it because not doing so would result in a ban but to curry favor in an attempt to get a Chinese release. 

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More from the Mattel marketing machine:

Special issue of People magazine (scans are out there of new promo photos).

And the BuzzFeed puppy interview with Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling, in which Gosling compares playing Ken to Pillsbury cinnamon buns:

 

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And the LA premiere/pink carpet was today; with many cast, crew, and assorted celebrities.

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/movies/2023/07/10/barbie-los-angeles-premiere-photos/12230048002/

https://deadline.com/gallery/barbie-premiere-fashion-red-carpet-photos/

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From Airbnb to Xbox: brand Barbie goes for big bucks with 100 partnerships

Given how many brands have come on board the movie is making a ton of money before it even releases.  

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When Margot Robbie first read the script for the Barbie film, which she stars in and co-produced, her first thought was: “They’re never going to let us make this movie.”

Quotes like this really make me excited to see what they are doing. 

 

12 hours ago, Trini said:

And the LA premiere/pink carpet was today; with many cast, crew, and assorted celebrities.

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/movies/2023/07/10/barbie-los-angeles-premiere-photos/12230048002/

https://deadline.com/gallery/barbie-premiere-fashion-red-carpet-photos/

I’m glad they were able to get through the premiere before a potential SAG strike. It would have really sucked if everyone involved didn’t get that moment before what is looking to be a massive career highlight. 

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3 hours ago, Dani said:

Given how many brands have come on board the movie is making a ton of money before it even releases.  

Well, Mattel is at least!

And more pink carpet coverage with commentary at Fug Girls: https://www.gofugyourself.com/barbie-los-angeles-premiere-red-carpet-07-2023

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Ncuti Gatwa has a couple of BTS anecdotes about auditioning and filming for Barbie in this interview.

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And WB just released a ... music video/promo featuring Ken's (Gosling's) song:

 

Also a teaser of Billie Eilish's song, which also has a bunch of new clips from the film: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cuh2H4zOfmY/

 

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Interview with Issa Rae about her role in the film at Teen Vogue:

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TV: You've spoken about how Greta left it up to all the Barbies to craft their characters' personalities. What inspirations, influences, or reference points went into crafting your Barbie, the president? Did it go beyond Christie (the first Black Barbie), into Michelle Obama territory?

IR: Yeah, it did. We were thinking about some of the, I guess, presidential adjacent figures, and Michelle Obama was definitely one of them. Kamala Harris was one of them. I was thinking about the German leader [Angela Merkel], just [in] how people present — but then also the childhood version of what I thought a leader would be. It was tapping into who six to eight-year-old me thought a female president would look like, and living in that world really informed how I played the president.

 

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Director and cast roundtable at EW; some interesting and funny tidbits here:

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Margot Robbie, Ryan Gosling, Kate McKinnon, Issa Rae, Michael Cera, America Ferrera and Greta Gerwig breakdown their new summer comedy inspired by the iconic Mattel doll 'Barbie.'

 

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3 hours ago, Trini said:

Well, Mattel is at least!

I’m expecting that a good chunk of those deals are going to involves product placement so the studio has probably offset a big chunk of the production costs thorough those deals. This may rival Endgame in product placements. 

After how brutal the box office has been this year, I love that we are seeing an event movie released for woman and girls. That is so rare and hopefully will set a good precedent. 

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