S11.E07: Natural Mother

[druzy]

 

Jade & Sean reignite their spark. Briana reaches out to Luis’ parents in frustration. Kail and Javi swing the co-parenting pendulum between frustration and flirtation. Ashley & Bar must uproot themselves again and consider taking steps to get vaccinated.

Airs April 19, 2022

[Andyourlittledog2]

On 4/17/2022 at 10:32 AM, druzy said:

Jade & Sean reignite their spark. Briana reaches out to Luis’ parents in frustration. Kail and Javi swing the co-parenting pendulum between frustration and flirtation. Ashley & Bar must uproot themselves again and consider taking steps to get vaccinated.

In other words:

1. Sean is all kissy face with Jade because he needs to get a place to live and not have to work. He'll 'help out' babysitting Kloie for her. Again.

2. Brianna is still hanging on that ol' cross of heroic motherhood. The coven, having gotten sick of listening to her complaints about anything at all that Luis tries to do, has prompted her to go seek the ear of Luis' parents instead. Brianna will have no trouble at all convincing them of her sainthood and how utterly useless their son is. (Not that Luis hasn't been an asshole over the years, but he never gets any credit with her at all when he does show up. Her constant complaining about him in front of Stella may be a significant reason the little girl doesn't like seeing him any more.)

3. Javi hasn't been getting any air time at all so he decides to flirt with Kail in order to maximize his fifteen minutes of MTV fame.  And Kail flirts back because she desperately needs a storyline at this point.

As for Ashley and Bar: They haven't been vaccinated?  Isn't this filmed well into year two of the pandemic?  I would seriously like to know when their segment was filmed. 

[Andyourlittledog2]

Brianna: So she texts a profanity filled aggressive accusation to Luis’ mother of all people, in Spanish because they cannot talk to each other due to Luis’ mother not speaking English. So she doesn’t really know this woman at all. Great. One of the things Brianna complains about is Luis not answering her phone calls, note. And Luis’ mother responds immediately with more graciousness than I would have mustered under the circumstances. Really a very kind response. Brianna is not humbled by this response however. She’s on her high horse and seems to resent being shown up by Luis’ mother’s apology and kindness. Brianna came to fight and feel superior. Luis’ mother is not playing the game.Then Luis’ dad phones her and she refuses to answer the call because ‘she’s not ready’ to ‘deal with it’. She started this conversation but now, within a minute, she is ‘not ready’. Brianna is an awful person and can just take a seat.

[Andyourlittledog2]

So now Brianna finally calls the dad back and monologues him about his son and declares that they’re the grandparents so they should just hunt down their granddaughter etc and basically vomits her shit at him now. The entire call is either reenacted or she just started haranguing and didn’t let him get much of a word in edgewise.  

I can’t help but feel that this entire ‘storyline’ is more about Brianna trying to set up a public record to get Luis taken off the birth certificate and end his parental rights and less about how she wants these people in Stella’s life. Because I don’t believe she really does want them there. Stella's in preK and Brianna hasn't reached out to the grandparents before this sudden tirade?  Please. If people stepped up and really actively got involved in Stella’s life and really actively coparented and grandparented Stella then she’d have to share Stella and there is nothing Brianna/the coven does that makes me think that anyone else would be welcome in that role. Brianna wants ‘help’ but she doesn’t want what the help comes with.

Kail has what the help comes with and she is juggling different fathers and custody agreements etc and it causes a lot of conflict and crossed wires. The 'coat incident' with Javi is just one of a hundred examples of what coparenting comes with.

Imagine the coven having to deal with all that. They don’t want that for a minute, at least Brianna doesn’t. Brianna wants absolute control with a check attached. After all, who would feel sorry for her then?  Who would listen to her litany of complaints?

I really want Jade and Sean to succeed. I worry that this is just a prelude to the same old same old. Jade gets aggravated in sixty seconds flat and so does Sean. I think they’ll fall into old habits.

Ashley wants to get vaccinated but is surrounded by family who give her death glares if she suggests she is thinking about it. Wonderful. “You know how we all feel about that” says her mom. Geez. She sounds as if Ashley won’t be invited for Christmas if she dares to get the shot. Individual choice is apparently not for Pastor Tea's clan.  March in step, people.

Victoria and Leah again.  Not. Interested.

[Jeanne222]

Jade and Sean could have a love story but in being able to make that happen Jade needs to get some therapy.  Sean can't return to Jades new home as babysitter.  He needs to find a real 9-5 job and I'm not sure he could get hired anywhere with no school and no skills.

Even if he could make enough to pay the babysitter.  Too bad part of the therapy couldn't involve employment somehow someway!

He looks so good and seems so happy.  

[Mr. Miner]

"Pastor Tea" can fuck all the way off! and so can everybody else on this show.

[Mr. Miner]

https://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2022/04/19/briana-dejesus-demands-her-teen-mom-2-co-star-kail-lowry-pay-her-back-for-over-120k-in-legal-fees-from-kails-defamation-lawsuit-against-her/

My face is starting to hurt from smiling.

Last night Leah went to take her exam and some glitch in their system prevented her from taking the exam. She said she had to wait a few days. I don't know when they were filming but as of 4 days ago she has not passed her exam, if she ever even took the exam.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Mr. Miner

[Cinnabon]

12 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Jade and Sean could have a love story but in being able to make that happen Jade needs to get some therapy.  Sean can't return to Jades new home as babysitter.  He needs to find a real 9-5 job and I'm not sure he could get hired anywhere with no school and no skills.

Even if he could make enough to pay the babysitter.  Too bad part of the therapy couldn't involve employment somehow someway!

He looks so good and seems so happy.  

We don’t call stay at home moms “babysitters” though. It’s not an awful thing for one parent to stay home with their child.

[Snarky McSnarky]

Kail owns a million square foot house, but she had to lease a commercial office for her podcast.  And she puts up giant "bmnd" outdoor signs that mean nothing to 99.9% of the people passing by.  Excellent use of funds.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2094271/teen-mom-kailyn-lowry-shows-off-new-office-podcast

[Jeanne222]

19 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

We don’t call stay at home moms “babysitters” though. It’s not an awful thing for one parent to stay home with their child.

No we certainly don't but what did Sean do but watch his daughter...somewhat.  He didn't clean or cook or do laundry.  He didn't do grocery shopping or doctors appointments.  He went into his bedroom and played music. 

So to me he was a babysitter.  He was there with the child while mom worked and that's all.  Nothing more.  Sigh..babysitter.

[Bluesky]

2 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

We don’t call stay at home moms “babysitters” though. It’s not an awful thing for one parent to stay home with their child.

It is awful when that parent is high and plays video games while the child wanders aimlessly around the tiny room.  She needs daycare with preschool. She will get socialization which she desperately needs, exercise, books!, and routine.  Even if Sean stays sober he will never be an appropriate stay at home father. 

[Hedgehog2022]

15 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Jade and Sean could have a love story but in being able to make that happen Jade needs to get some therapy.  Sean can't return to Jades new home as babysitter.  He needs to find a real 9-5 job and I'm not sure he could get hired anywhere with no school and no skills.

Even if he could make enough to pay the babysitter.  Too bad part of the therapy couldn't involve employment somehow someway!

He looks so good and seems so happy.  

Actually, he could get a job with benefits at Costco. Decent pay for someone with no skills.

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Bluesky said:

It is awful when that parent is high and plays video games while the child wanders aimlessly around the tiny room.  She needs daycare with preschool. She will get socialization which she desperately needs, exercise, books!, and routine.  Even if Sean stays sober he will never be an appropriate stay at home father. 

YES! I've been saying this for awhile. This little girl needs pre-school and socilization with other kids. What she doesn't need is a babysitter that is high and angry and resents being the "babysitter'. She doesn't need two grandparents babysitting her who also are drug users and don't engage with her on a healthy level. Sean needs a job and his own living space. Even a small effciency apartment would be helpful for him to establish independence and a healthier relationship with Jade. He also needs to continue with his sobriety and go to weekly meetings of AA or some other group that helps people with drug addiction.

[Soobs]

Nice to see Jade and Sean smiling, hope it lasts. They need some type of regular practice (therapy, church, something) or like others said, they'll fall into old habits.

Ashley with her medical training knows better than her mom but is a little scared of her. One can also get vaccinated and just keep that private, medical info to themselves. Bar working in a weed shop seems like not the best choice, but at least he's working and seems to like it.

I think Leah would make a good realtor if she can get through the book learnin'

Kail telling Javi he owed her for her therapy session, pphht.. If she knew how to control herself and worked on her coping skills, she wouldn't have had to take the whole hour on their spat. Personal responsibility is still not her vibe.

Just imagining Brianna's phone with all the sets of fathers and grandparents numbers gives me a headache.

[Hedgehog2022]

6 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Kail owns a million square foot house, but she had to lease a commercial office for her podcast.  And she puts up giant "bmnd" outdoor signs that mean nothing to 99.9% of the people passing by.  Excellent use of funds.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2094271/teen-mom-kailyn-lowry-shows-off-new-office-podcast

I really loathe her. She is the worst person to co-parent with. She feels she knows best for her kids and the baby daddies are useless jerks. She argues and disagrees with them out of a need to bump herself up as the better parent and also to keep them in their place. She enjoys arguing with them because it keeps them close to her even it is negative attention...she needs to feel that she is the better parent and knows what's best for their kids.  She is incapable of being in a healthy relationship with anyone. And personally, I didn't feel Javi did anything wrong in asking for Lux to be dressed appropriately for the cold weather...especially since he had  mentioned it before. But of course, no one can tell Kail what to do with HER kids...her explanantion that she is trying to teach a four year old pre-schooler personal responsiblity was lame. I've had three kids that were four at one time...I just had to laugh at her lame explanation for her own disregard or laziness in not bringing a hoodie for the preschooler. Honestly, I don't know how any of these baby daddies can stand to do any co-parenting with her. She needs to quit publicly bragging about her home and her stupid podcast office...no one cares.

Edited April 21, 2022 by Hedgehog2022

[Cinnabon]

38 minutes ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Actually, he could get a job with benefits at Costco. Decent pay for someone with no skills.

There are excellent employees at my local Costco that aren’t “unskilled.” I’m not sure he would make it through the interview process.

[Hedgehog2022]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

There are excellent employees at my local Costco that aren’t “unskilled.” I’m not sure he would make it through the interview process.

I did not mean that as a "dis" to Costco employees...I know that they employ people that do not have specific skills. They train people to use equipment and hire people that are willing to be trained and put in the hours. In return they get good pay and benefits. Apologies if I offended anyone...wasn't meant that way.

[SuzWhat]

Brianna:  to prove I always respond when Louis calls, I won't answer your call.  Make it make sense.

[A-Lo]

23 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Kail owns a million square foot house, but she had to lease a commercial office for her podcast.  And she puts up giant "bmnd" outdoor signs that mean nothing to 99.9% of the people passing by.  Excellent use of funds.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2094271/teen-mom-kailyn-lowry-shows-off-new-office-podcast

What a waste of money!  And why would she put the exterior of the office on air?  I live in Dover and just drove by it while I was running errands.  I'd seen it a million times before but never knew what BMND stood for.  Now I do and so some potentially shady people.  Kail's not the sharpest knife is the drawer, is she?

[Snarky McSnarky]

Viewership was a mere 355,000.  Yikes!  Blame it on the NBA playoffs I guess...

https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-tuesday-4-19-2022-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html

[Andyourlittledog2]

1 hour ago, A-Lo said:

I live in Dover and just drove by it while I was running errands.  I'd seen it a million times before but never knew what BMND stood for.  Now I do and so some potentially shady people.  Kail's not the sharpest knife is the drawer, is she?

I don't understand. Doesn't it stand for Baby Mamas No Drama?  Other than it was Kail and Viv I don't understand the shady aspect of the sign.

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Andyourlittledog2 said:

I don't understand. Doesn't it stand for Baby Mamas No Drama?  Other than it was Kail and Viv I don't understand the shady aspect of the sign.

Maybe not shady, but absolutely trashy. 

[eskimo]

2 hours ago, Andyourlittledog2 said:

I don't understand. Doesn't it stand for Baby Mamas No Drama?  Other than it was Kail and Viv I don't understand the shady aspect of the sign.

I took the comment to mean that potentially shady people might now know where Kail's studio is, if they wanted to cause her trouble.  Probably better to not advertise some things when you're in the public eye.  A dwindling public eye, but none the less...

[Jeanne222]

7 hours ago, A-Lo said:

What a waste of money!  And why would she put the exterior of the office on air?  I live in Dover and just drove by it while I was running errands.  I'd seen it a million times before but never knew what BMND stood for.  Now I do and so some potentially shady people.  Kail's not the sharpest knife is the drawer, is she?

Kail wastes money to show off. Look at me, look at me!  She thinks she’s all that!

[Mr. Miner]

15 hours ago, eskimo said:

Probably better to not advertise some things when you're in the public eye.  A dwindling public eye, but none the less...

Does she not realize how many people hate her?

[MaggieG]

I thought Kail and Vee weren't doing the podcast anymore, why does she need office space with BMND logos? I know she has another podcast but that one has a different name.

I think Sean needs structure. A job and a routine. He seems to be doing well in rehab and hopefully he can keep it up when he gets out.

[lilmarysunshine]

Brianna has had 3 adults in her household helping with childcare since her first was born and she CONSTANTLY whines how she does it on her own. With Devoin, consider 3.5 adults with 2 kids. I am married with 3 kids. She has more help than I did and I would guess most people. She can run to the grocery store at 9:30 pm without dragging her kids along. 

As much as I hate to admit it, I was on Kail’s side with the argument with Javi. They were talking about 8 year old Lincoln and not 4 year old Lux. If he cares that much about the jacket, bring it yourself. 

Edited April 24, 2022 by lilmarysunshine

[SilverLake0315]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

As much as I hate to admit it, I was on Kail’s side with the argument with Javi.

I was, too. Lincoln is old enough to be responsible for bringing a jacket for himself. 

[Jeanne222]

3 minutes ago, SilverLake0315 said:

I was, too. Lincoln is old enough to be responsible for bringing a jacket for himself. 

A little tough love never hurt anybody.  Didn’t they say Javi’s mom still caters to him?

I really like teaching kids responsibility!

[lilmarysunshine]

13 minutes ago, SilverLake0315 said:

I was, too. Lincoln is old enough to be responsible for bringing a jacket for himself. 

Yes, and for him to ORDER Kail to bring one? Oh HELL NO if my husband ever talked to me like that about a jacket for my son when I even reminded him to grab it. My response would be profane. 

[Cinnabon]

13 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Yes, and for him to ORDER Kail to bring one? Oh HELL NO if my husband ever talked to me like that about a jacket for my son when I even reminded him to grab it. My response would be profane. 

Ordering me to do anything is a great way to get me to do the exact opposite.

[Jax7917]

On 4/23/2022 at 9:19 PM, lilmarysunshine said:

Brianna has had 3 adults in her household helping with childcare since her first was born and she CONSTANTLY whines how she does it on her own. With Devoin, consider 3.5 adults with 2 kids. I am married with 3 kids. She has more help than I did and I would guess most people. She can run to the grocery store at 9:30 pm without dragging her kids along. 

As much as I hate to admit it, I was on Kail’s side with the argument with Javi. They were talking about 8 year old Lincoln and not 4 year old Lux. If he cares that much about the jacket, bring it yourself. 

Yessss this annoys me so much . Briana’s always saying she does everything on her own . Yeah , she has lowlife dads to deal with who constantly disappoint her kids , but her sister and mom are second and third parents to those kids . She’s always going on vacations without her kids meanwhile my son’s 3 and I’ve never had a night away From him . I have a husband and he’s an amazing father but it’s just us 2 with no village surrounding us and we both work full time . I can’t stand when she thinks she’s this super mom who cares for her children 24/7 when we’ve seen her on many week long vacations without her kids . Same with you Leah . The girl flies to Costa Rica without her kids as if she didn’t have any . Didn’t she go at least twice already just for vacation ? What parent can do that? Oh yes plus Hawaii with Kail amongst other places . And don’t get me started on kails constant vacations . I guess there are benefits to having 3 baby daddies .,

[Jax7917]

Am I mistaken or did kail say her and Javi have a very similar parenting style in the previous episode and then in this episode she said they have very different parenting styles ? 

[Bluesky]

On 4/23/2022 at 9:19 PM, lilmarysunshine said:

Brianna has had 3 adults in her household helping with childcare since her first was born and she CONSTANTLY whines how she does it on her own. With Devoin, consider 3.5 adults with 2 kids. I am married with 3 kids. She has more help than I did and I would guess most people. She can run to the grocery store at 9:30 pm without dragging her kids along. 

As much as I hate to admit it, I was on Kail’s side with the argument with Javi. They were talking about 8 year old Lincoln and not 4 year old Lux. If he cares that much about the jacket, bring it yourself. 

I don’t know what it is about that age group but they seem to hate winter hats and coats.  The boys would wear basketball shorts in the snow if they could.  But elementary school is still too young to not insist they wear a jacket.  I’d tell him he needs a jacket before he gets in the car.    I think it’s still up to the parent to make sure they dress appropriately, brush their teeth, comb their hair.  If not middle school will be a nightmare.