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With the FBI closing in on the Roy Walton investigation, Voight and Halstead strategize a way out. After a city bus driver is shot by a passenger, the team investigates a possible abduction.

Airdate: 12/08/2021

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From strictly a story-telling perspective the right way to end it is Voight leaving, either vertically in cuffs, or horizontally. And if alive, then no last-minute comeback/acquittal/off-on-a-technicality/etc. Horizontally (perhaps by his own hand) would work also.

But from a television perspective, however, I don't know if that would fly. Mind you, we just had one high profile "permanent" departure from Fire and several from Med. But I think the show needs Voight to keep the overall mood as it is. It's already gone too far in the direction of Chicago High School and Police Department in recent years. There are a million normal procedurals, but a dark character like Voight sets an interesting tone. We love to hate on Voight, but that's one of the big draws to me. Unless they plan to completely rework the premise and dump half the cast (NOT a good idea), then keep Voight until a worthy successor comes along.

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On 12/5/2021 at 3:36 AM, Chicagopdfan said:

Sounds like it should be a good episode. I’m liking forward to it, I just hope it concludes the Roy storyline - it’s been dragged on far too long imo. 

I hope it concludes Upstead.  They need to break up and move on.

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14 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I hope it concludes Upstead.  They need to break up and move on.

I don’t I think they have great chemistry, I like how it was slowly built up for 4 years rather than just chucking them together. Can’t see the show just breaking them up after all that build up. 

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1 hour ago, Chicagopdfan said:

I don’t I think they have great chemistry, I like how it was slowly built up for 4 years rather than just chucking them together. Can’t see the show just breaking them up after all that build up. 

I'm sorry, you will find yourself in the small minority here on this forum.  There are not many, if any, fans of Upstead (or Upton) here.

Upstead has zero chemistry in my opinion - the proposal scene and kiss was absolutely cringeworthy to me.  I felt bad for Jesse Lee Soffer.  Characters with chemistry usually don't need a slow build because they ooze sex appeal from the start and everyone wants them together ASAP.  These characters have not, and there is a large faction of the fanbase that can't stand them together.  But it's mostly Upton - we can't stand Upton.

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2 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I'm sorry, you will find yourself in the small minority here on this forum.  There are not many, if any, fans of Upstead (or Upton) here.

Upstead has zero chemistry in my opinion - the proposal scene and kiss was absolutely cringeworthy to me.  I felt bad for Jesse Lee Soffer.  Characters with chemistry usually don't need a slow build because they ooze sex appeal from the start and everyone wants them together ASAP.  These characters have not, and there is a large faction of the fanbase that can't stand them together.  But it's mostly Upton - we can't stand Upton.

I definitely don't see any Chemistry with Upstead as well. They seem Montone and lacking any heat. I seen more chemistry with Lindsay. Also I think Adam and Kim have more chemistry on this show. 

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3 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I'm sorry, you will find yourself in the small minority here on this forum.  There are not many, if any, fans of Upstead (or Upton) here.

Upstead has zero chemistry in my opinion - the proposal scene and kiss was absolutely cringeworthy to me.  I felt bad for Jesse Lee Soffer.  Characters with chemistry usually don't need a slow build because they ooze sex appeal from the start and everyone wants them together ASAP.  These characters have not, and there is a large faction of the fanbase that can't stand them together.  But it's mostly Upton - we can't stand Upton.

That’s fine I’m happy to be in minority. 
 

Imo opinion have amazing chemistry, I didn’t find anything cringe worthy about their proposal scenes or kissing scene’s. 
 

I think they needed the slow build as obviously it was the second time he was dating his partner. I think the writers are/were building the characters to have more than sexual chemistry. It’s clearly supposed to be serious deep relationship unlike Hailey and Adam which was purely sexual and like you said didn’t need a slow build. 

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6 hours ago, Chicagopdfan said:

I don’t I think they have great chemistry, I like how it was slowly built up for 4 years rather than just chucking them together. Can’t see the show just breaking them up after all that build up. 

I have to agree with everyone else . I don’t think they have much romantic chemistry either. Friendship chemistry , maybe. But their romantic  scenes are cringeworthy and just seems forced. It just seems rapid build when they got together . I mean in the same season they got together, they already proposing . And from the beginning of their relationship, Upton has lied to him numerous times .  And the writer been wanting to be put them together since S5. 

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2 hours ago, Jaelyn96 said:

I have to agree with everyone else . I don’t think they have much romantic chemistry either. Friendship chemistry , maybe. But their romantic  scenes are cringeworthy and just seems forced. It just seems rapid build when they got together . I mean in the same season they got together, they already proposing . And from the beginning of their relationship, Upton has lied to him numerous times .  And the writer been wanting to be put them together since S5. 

Each to their own I guess but there scenes are always some of my favourites. I would like to see more interactions with the whole unit though. Everyone seems to be paired off except poor Kevin and well Hank. Trudy is also criminally underused. 

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1 minute ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I think I'll be finding something else to watch at 10 o'clock on Wednesdays.  Yikes, that was bad. I don't even have more to say about this episode at this time. And the ending was ::blech:: 🤮

That was horrible indeed... 

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2 hours ago, Chicagopdfan said:

Each to their own I guess but there scenes are always some of my favourites. I would like to see more interactions with the whole unit though. Everyone seems to be paired off except poor Kevin and well Hank. Trudy is also criminally underused. 

Kev got a woman now.

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So I guess Jay has officially crossed over to the dark side lol. So instead of doing the right thing from now on h's going to enable Voight and help him cover things up. 

I found it funny that the agent said out of everybody in the unit he thought Jay was the one who would do the right thing, based off the show I been watching that would be Atwater. 

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Good lord the ending made me Barf. Can't stand this fucking chemistry less couple. There are other more interesting and better characters but no its the Barfstead show. Their love scene had no sizzle, no spark no chemistry. What is so great about her that Jay's now a Corrupt ass

59 minutes ago, mommalib said:

So I guess Jay has officially crossed over to the dark side lol. So instead of doing the right thing from now on h's going to enable Voight and help him cover things up. 

I found it funny that the agent said out of everybody in the unit he thought Jay was the one who would do the right thing, based off the show I been watching that would be Atwater. 

HA I said the same thing. Atwater is a better person for sure. Hailey has that Magic Poontang that gets Jay Being Corrupt 

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1 hour ago, mommalib said:

So I guess Jay has officially crossed over to the dark side lol.

Jay is such an inconsistent character. They use him however they need him, either as a Mr Rulebook, a challenger of Voight's or as someone who crosses the line himself when it suits him. If I were the actor, I'd probably have quit already. I wouldn't enjoy being that character as there's no real growth/development.

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Ha, so the Crimesteads got married, how twee.

And the whole Roy story is over, with ZERO FUCKING consequences for anyone, and ZERO FUCKING CLOSURE for Kim. So what they used Kim being beaten & shot & almost dying to shove this soulless freaking ghoul onto us. Oh poor freakin' Hailey - commits crimes, lies, covers up murders, blackmails people, life is so freakin' hard for her because she had trauuuummmmaaaa as a child. Let's reward her with a wedding & a hypocrite of a husband. Eid's parting shot, ruin a once decent character with a great backstory & some depth & make him sell his soul for the devil.

Jay marries his second basketcase on a whim. Well isn't that just dandy.

Meanwhile, Kim, who was the actual victim gets dirt.

This show & the writers have jumped the shark, they have just put together half a season of proving that being dirty, corrupt assholes is just fine and dandy.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Josh371982 said:

Good lord the ending made me Barf. Can't stand this fucking chemistry less couple. There are other more interesting and better characters but no its the Barfstead show. Their love scene had no sizzle, no spark no chemistry. What is so great about her that Jay's now a Corrupt ass

HA I said the same thing. Atwater is a better person for sure. Hailey has that Magic Poontang that gets Jay Being Corrupt 

I mean Atwater himself has done things himself, including evidence and protecting his brother when his brother covered up the fact that this girlfriend murdered her ex. 
 

None of them have clean hands. It is what it is. 

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9 hours ago, Josh371982 said:

Good lord the ending made me Barf. Can't stand this fucking chemistry less couple. There are other more interesting and better characters but no its the Barfstead show. Their love scene had no sizzle, no spark no chemistry. What is so great about her that Jay's now a Corrupt ass

I thought I was watching "Days of our Lives." They need to stop with these bad love scenes.  Specifically, I don't need or want to see random naked shots of their backs and butt cracks, spread legs, or the actress putting her head back to signify the moment of penetration.  Just no.  It is awkward and strange.  The Chicago franchise seems to love this Hallmark channel soft porn style.  Chicago Med did a similar scene when Casey and Brett got together.  I think the actors did the scene well, but I hated the direction of the scene.

Anyway, good luck to Jay being married to that angry headcase.  The marital bliss will be short-lived.

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49 minutes ago, nittany cougar said:

I thought I was watching "Days of our Lives." They need to stop with these bad love scenes.  Specifically, I don't need or want to see random naked shots of their backs and butt cracks, spread legs, or the actress putting her head back to signify the moment of penetration.  Just no.  It is awkward and strange.  The Chicago franchise seems to love this Hallmark channel soft porn style.  Chicago Med did a similar scene when Casey and Brett got together.

Anyway, good luck to Jay being married to that angry headcase.  The marital bliss will be short-lived.

No it won’t, not according to the interview with the writers and actors that came out last night.  

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Can we talk about the preview for the next episode…..what are the writers doing with Kim and Adam?? How much can anguish can two characters take. Either put them together or have them move on for good. It’s beyond ridiculous now. 

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22 minutes ago, Chicagopdfan said:

Can we talk about the preview for the next episode…..what are the writers doing with Kim and Adam?? How much can anguish can two characters take. Either put them together or have them move on for good. It’s beyond ridiculous now. 

Talk about the next episode when they start a thread for that. These threads don't speculate on future episodes. Generally any comments not about the current episode will be moved or deleted. They run a tight ship around here.

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21 minutes ago, Guildford said:

Talk about the next episode when they start a thread for that. These threads don't speculate on future episodes. Generally any comments not about the current episode will be moved or deleted. They run a tight ship around here.

Ah ok thank you. 

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9 hours ago, Josh371982 said:

Good lord the ending made me Barf. Can't stand this fucking chemistry less couple. There are other more interesting and better characters but no its the Barfstead show. Their love scene had no sizzle, no spark no chemistry. What is so great about her that Jay's now a Corrupt ass

HA I said the same thing. Atwater is a better person for sure. Hailey has that Magic Poontang that gets Jay Being Corrupt 

Ditto!!  Watching those 2 is like watching a Barbie and Ken doll try and be hot.  It makes my dinner try to come up🤢

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1 hour ago, GodsBeloved said:

 

Crimesteads 😂

But seriously, why did you all let me watch that

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Sorry, seems we all tortured ourselves...  I guess foolish me had hope that the writers would redeem Jay and he'd do the right thing. Turning Voight in would have given us much better material for the whole second half of the season! But no, instead we got... that. 

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16 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Sorry, seems we all tortured ourselves...  I guess foolish me had hope that the writers would redeem Jay and he'd do the right thing. Turning Voight in would have given us much better material for the whole second half of the season! But no, instead we got... that. 

I surprised they didn't invite him into the martial bed, seeing as they are all one big happy criminal family now.

Oh and black rings... perfectly matched to their cold black hearts.

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14 hours ago, Josh371982 said:

Good lord the ending made me Barf. Can't stand this fucking chemistry less couple. There are other more interesting and better characters but no its the Barfstead show. Their love scene had no sizzle, no spark no chemistry. What is so great about her that Jay's now a Corrupt ass

HA I said the same thing. Atwater is a better person for sure. Hailey has that Magic Poontang that gets Jay Being Corrupt 

I didn’t watch the episode because based on the advance preview I knew it was gonna be something 🤮🤢 because the girl is Upstead fan.  I think this showrunner will be worst than Eid 

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14 hours ago, LittleIggy said:

I don’t love to hate Voight. I freakin’ love Voight! 🥰

Voight makes the show. Is he a great wholesome person? Hell no but IMO Jason Beghe is the best actor on the show and Voight is an interesting character again IMO lol

 

11 hours ago, Guildford said:

Ha, so the Crimesteads got married, how twee.

And the whole Roy story is over, with ZERO FUCKING consequences for anyone, and ZERO FUCKING CLOSURE for Kim. So what they used Kim being beaten & shot & almost dying to shove this soulless freaking ghoul onto us. Oh poor freakin' Hailey - commits crimes, lies, covers up murders, blackmails people, life is so freakin' hard for her because she had trauuuummmmaaaa as a child. Let's reward her with a wedding & a hypocrite of a husband. Eid's parting shot, ruin a once decent character with a great backstory & some depth & make him sell his soul for the devil.

Jay marries his second basketcase on a whim. Well isn't that just dandy.

Meanwhile, Kim, who was the actual victim gets dirt.

This show & the writers have jumped the shark, they have just put together half a season of proving that being dirty, corrupt assholes is just fine and dandy.

 

 

PREACH IT about Upton the special Writers and Showrunners Pet! 

8 hours ago, nittany cougar said:

I thought I was watching "Days of our Lives." They need to stop with these bad love scenes.  Specifically, I don't need or want to see random naked shots of their backs and butt cracks, spread legs, or the actress putting her head back to signify the moment of penetration.  Just no.  It is awkward and strange.  The Chicago franchise seems to love this Hallmark channel soft porn style.  Chicago Med did a similar scene when Casey and Brett got together.  I think the actors did the scene well, but I hated the direction of the scene.

Anyway, good luck to Jay being married to that angry headcase.  The marital bliss will be short-lived.

LOL I know what you mean about the Love Scenes but JMO Casey and Brett actually have/had chemistry and their scene was sexier than Barfstead/Crimestead. 

Jay is meant to be a Prop for Special Dewdrop Upton.

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13 hours ago, Guildford said:

Ha, so the Crimesteads got married, how twee.

And the whole Roy story is over, with ZERO FUCKING consequences for anyone, and ZERO FUCKING CLOSURE for Kim. So what they used Kim being beaten & shot & almost dying to shove this soulless freaking ghoul onto us. Oh poor freakin' Hailey - commits crimes, lies, covers up murders, blackmails people, life is so freakin' hard for her because she had trauuuummmmaaaa as a child. Let's reward her with a wedding & a hypocrite of a husband. Eid's parting shot, ruin a once decent character with a great backstory & some depth & make him sell his soul for the devil.

Jay marries his second basketcase on a whim. Well isn't that just dandy.

Meanwhile, Kim, who was the actual victim gets dirt.

This show & the writers have jumped the shark, they have just put together half a season of proving that being dirty, corrupt assholes is just fine and dandy.

 

 

I don’t think this can even be blamed on Eid, well not entirely. This is all the new showrunner . I think she has taken over a lot longer than what we think 

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On 12/9/2021 at 1:18 PM, FnkyChkn34 said:

Oh and black rings... perfectly matched to their cold black hearts.

That's typical for first responders.  They are silicone in case they get snagged.

Did she even smile at her wedding? I could barely watch.  Can't stand her.

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The dumbest episode of this season!

There were some intense moments and good lines between Jay and Voight, that's about it.

I was expecting the body they found was not Roy Walton, Voight covering his track ahead of time, switching his body with random cadaver etc.

This should not be the end of Roy's storyline, Kim/Adam/Kevin need to know the truth. Kim's PTSD and her curiosity about Roy's whereabout need to be addressed at some point. What's the point of having Kim heavily tortured then make it all about Jay & Hailey.

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2 hours ago, judyri said:

That's typical for first responders.  They are silicone in case they get snagged.

Did she even smile at her wedding? I could barely watch.  Can't stand her.

Just seemed apt for them, the cold heartless Crimesteads

 

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5 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

The dumbest episode of this season!

There were some intense moments and good lines between Jay and Voight, that's about it.

I was expecting the body they found was not Roy Walton, Voight covering his track ahead of time, switching his body with random cadaver etc.

This should not be the end of Roy's storyline, Kim/Adam/Kevin need to know the truth. Kim's PTSD and her curiosity about Roy's whereabout need to be addressed at some point. What's the point of having Kim heavily tortured then make it all about Jay & Hailey.

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I have to agree one of the dumbest episodes . They could have just picked a random person instead of Kim, since this storyline was not even about her.  Upstead is so forced and gross , makes my eyes hurt . And this was written by the new showrunner . I don’t think she will be any better than Eid

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On 12/10/2021 at 8:04 PM, judyri said:

That's typical for first responders.  They are silicone in case they get snagged.

Did she even smile at her wedding? I could barely watch.  Can't stand her.

Yes she smiled lots at her wedding. I think now the Roy storyline is finished we will see a much happier Upstead going forward. 

On 12/10/2021 at 10:30 PM, Guildford said:

Just seemed apt for them, the cold heartless Crimesteads

 

I mean they are obviously not cold or heartless, if that were the case then Hailey wouldn’t have been having panic attacks over the situation. 

On 12/10/2021 at 8:57 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

This should not be the end of Roy's storyline, Kim/Adam/Kevin need to know the truth. Kim's PTSD and her curiosity about Roy's whereabout need to be addressed at some point. What's the point of having Kim heavily tortured then make it all about Jay & Hailey.

It’s definitely the end of the storyline the show writer confirmed it as did the actor who plays Roy. I think Kevin, Adam and Kim will find out that Roy’s dead in the next episode but they will believe it’s due to other child traffickers killing him based on the file that Jay have to North so he could close the case. 

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On 12/19/2021 at 11:41 PM, Chicagopdfan said:

Yes she smiled lots at her wedding. I think now the Roy storyline is finished we will see a much happier Upstead going forward. 

I mean they are obviously not cold or heartless, if that were the case then Hailey wouldn’t have been having panic attacks over the situation. 

It’s definitely the end of the storyline the show writer confirmed it as did the actor who plays Roy. I think Kevin, Adam and Kim will find out that Roy’s dead in the next episode but they will believe it’s due to other child traffickers killing him based on the file that Jay have to North so he could close the case. 

Upton is cold and heartless. She sure didn’t have any panic attacks when she planned Darius murder . She was only having panic attacks and guilt because she didn’t want Jay to find out what kind of person she is. As soon as he found out , her panic attacks stopped. Her smile is like an annoying smirk. They have no romantic chemistry at all. It’s so forced and they are toxic together 

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3 hours ago, Jaelyn96 said:

Upton is cold and heartless. She sure didn’t have any panic attacks when she planned Darius murder . She was only having panic attacks and guilt because she didn’t want Jay to find out what kind of person she is. As soon as he found out , her panic attacks stopped. Her smile is like an annoying smirk. They have no romantic chemistry at all. It’s so forced and they are toxic together 

Couldn't agree more.....Why should Upstead get to be 'happier' now?

Now? Because they got away with murder & blackmail? Yep they sooo deserve happiness, meanwhile Kim still doesn't know the man who tried to kill her isn't out there waiting for the right moment to come back and finish the job. 

So we get to see the Liar & her Lackey skipping happily through life because the 'Roy' case is over....🙄.

All three of them are trash.

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