Season 23 Live Feeds Discussion

[30 Helens]

Hannah talks about her dancing career and how she would love to be a backup dancer for a singer. Ky mentions that he has a dancer friend: Amber, who dances for the Clippers! Hannah: “That’s… not the kind of dancing I do.” She says it like he was talking about a pole dancer, but I’m just surprised and thankful that he didn’t bring up his friend Tara Kelly Music.

[Melina22]

11 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Earlier tonight, I was watching “What We Do in the Shadows” and realized: Ky is an energy vampire. He is Colin Robinson, minus the fascination with poop buckets. (I think.)

I was watching too! You have to admit that Ky's a lot better looking than Colin Robinson, although the end effect of his presence could be similar. 

[30 Helens]

Azah and Claire bond over missing Derex. Claire says they started to get close in week 2, when she reached out to him because he was alone and ostracized. Azah appreciated him being nice to her when she was blubbering over Britini. (Which time?) Re. who in the house they have had good talks with, they both mention Ky. Azah says she would date him outside the house. Unlike most people, he gets her sense of humor.

Azah does an impersonation of her father watching the feeds, complete with Cameroon accent: ”What is this cuddling? Why you cuddle with this black man and this Asian man and this curly headed man? What is all these hugs? Go study your Bible.”

[peachmangosteen]

10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Tiff and Hannah whispering: Their plan is to dump Deref and Azah first.

Wow, idiots.

[luvbadtv]

9 hours ago, Melina22 said:

I was watching too! You have to admit that Ky's a lot better looking than Colin Robinson, although the end effect of his presence could be similar. 

Ky gives me a John Legend vibe - his voice & his looks.  Not a 100% doppleganger, but I see a similarity.

[Blissfool]

On 9/3/2021 at 8:17 AM, Slider said:

Straight girl here, but I don't think she's that pretty.  She's not ugly, but I don't think she's drop dead gorgeous.  Sorry.

I don't think shes pretty either. As a matter of fact I think she looks like a rat and the tight braids don't help as they create a rat tail furthering the illusion of a rat. I was actually surprised when she, and fans, started commenting on her beauty. She's not ugly but I would never comment on her prettiness (or lack thereof) if she was a stranger on the street. 

If Azah was a stranger walking by, I'd stare, captivated by her beauty. 

If Whitney was a stranger walking by, I'd look and probably think she's so pretty.

21 hours ago, Lady Whistleup said:

I'm starting to lose respect for Tiffany. She's apparently just decided she's okay with going at #6. Sure, support the CO, but don't just hand over the game to X.

I'm ok with it too, Tiffany.  Glad we agree on something. 

20 hours ago, LADreamr said:

But Brittini and Derex have already figured it out to some extent, according to the jury house conversation.  I think they get it as much as SB seems to.

Britini and DereX are afraid to say the word "black" though. SB will say it, and I'm ok with that.

[himela]

Was this episode the first time Julie mentioned The Cookout? Week what, 8? 9? They were hoping it would be over by now but they didn't count on the strength of the cause. 😐

[peachmangosteen]

I can't believe it, but this actually is interesting lol. X losing his mind over not having everything go his way and in turn becoming more annoying than Ky (KY!), Hannah and Tiffany still stupidly holding onto X, Deref still believing he has actually done something, the Azah/Tiffany cold war. I hope this continues.

[peachmangosteen]

I rolled. Like absolute hysterical laughter lol.

Also, about the jury. 

The whole 'can't talk game' thing is so stupid to me. But also, like, people fuck in the jury house. I assume (and hope, for the handlers sake lol) the handlers aren't there for that. They could just start talking game then, which would be hilarious.

Also, I love Donny.

[peachmangosteen]

I also totally forgot about the dynamics of Ky trying to turn Tiff and X against each other while Tiffany tries to turn Ky and X against each other. Plus, X's weird obsession with Alyssa and her outright telling him all the time to his face that she isn't into him. Lots of really good stuff going on.

Claire actually gets it lol:

 

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

The whole 'can't talk game' thing is so stupid to me. But also, like, people fuck in the jury house. I assume (and hope, for the handlers sake lol) the handlers aren't there for that. They could just start talking game then, which would be hilarious.

Kat was so concerned about people conspiring against her that even after being evicted she decided it was worth fucking Nick to see if he had any information. 

Edited September 4, 2021 by Brian Cronin

[peachmangosteen]

What in the ever loving fuck is 'triggering' past HGs? Make it make sense lol.

[Melina22]

Maybe they can't watch people being clueless about what's happening while everyone around them is plotting their demise. It gives them flashbacks to being clueless or powerless, or looking completely stupid. I can see how no one would want to be reminded of that. 

I don't see how this season would be more triggering than others though. I'd say any season with blindsides would be triggering. Or alliances. Or voting. 😁

[Callaphera]

15 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

What in the ever loving fuck is 'triggering' past HGs? Make it make sense lol.

It's very triggering to see white people lose for once. It's just so unthinkable. Woe. Woe is them.

[choclatechip45]

20 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

What in the ever loving fuck is 'triggering' past HGs? Make it make sense lol.

Her husband says its triggering which I get since her husband is probably one of the worst Big Brother players ever lol. 

[Brian Cronin]

What's funny is that Cody had one of the best takes on it early on, but I guess he's changed his mind somehow? 

[HelpMeRondah]

Alyssa won POV. 😂😂😂

[choclatechip45]

Yay for Good Feeds!

[peachmangosteen]

Poor Claire, but good feeds!

[Lady Whistleup]

Oh shit. Now will Tiffany stay strong and not put up Claire?

[peachmangosteen]

6 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Oh shit. Now will Tiffany stay strong and not put up Claire?

She will 100% put up Claire. 

I’m glad we’ll get to see Tiff explain CO to Claire. It’s gonna be heart breaking for me though lol.

I do really hate that X is getting what he wants though.

[peachmangosteen]

Never mind, Tiff isn’t even gonna tell Claire about CO. She’s gonna claim she made a deal with everyone else this week. Honestly, this might lose Tiff Claire’s jury vote.

[Melina22]

Since there's an excellent chance Claire knows exactly what's happening right now, Tiffany not being honest with her is the worst possible thing she can do. It implies Tiffany thinks Claire isn't smart enough to figure things out. (Whether she is or not remains to be seen.) 

[leocadia]

It's really going to suck for Alyssa when she feels 100% safe on Thursday...and then goes anyway in the double.  At least she has the chance to win HOH/veto before that happens.  I'd care more, though, if it was Claire.

I'm with @peachmangosteen  I really wanted to see X sweat a little more. 

[Melina22]

11 minutes ago, leocadia said:

It's really going to suck for Alyssa when she feels 100% safe on Thursday...

I completely forgot about the double! She's only winning herself another 30 minutes in the house. 

Unless she wins HoH or veto in which case the COs goal will be defeated right at the finish line. Wow, that would be must-see TV! 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Melina22

[Brian Cronin]

36 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Never mind, Tiff isn’t even gonna tell Claire about CO. She’s gonna claim she made a deal with everyone else this week. Honestly, this might lose Tiff Claire’s jury vote.

SUCH a bad decision. "I made a deal with everyone else this week"? What the fuck does that even MEAN?

[Callaphera]

"Hey, so I know that we've had an F2 together since, like, forever. And I know that we've played this game together every week. But I made deals with EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE HOUSE EXCEPT YOU, MY BESTIE. Sorry!"

I mean.

[Coco88]

Tiffany really made the worst decision when she didn’t throw the HoH to Ky.  A Ky HoH would have been hard to take but this is really a no win situation that Tiffany is in right now.

[choclatechip45]

Tiffany has two options tell Claire about the cookout or convince Claire the only way X goes home is if she puts Claire up. 

The only good thing is that people in the cookout might drag Tiffany to the end because they think they can beat her.

[Brian Cronin]

23 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

Tiffany has two options tell Claire about the cookout or convince Claire the only way X goes home is if she puts Claire up. 

The only good thing is that people in the cookout might drag Tiffany to the end because they think they can beat her.

I get that they made a deal to not mention the Cookout, but come on, people, it's FINAL EIGHT, the Cookout is about to be in the final SEVEN, you can let someone know. Don't be oddly inflexible. 

[Melina22]

1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said:

the Cookout is about to be in the final SEVEN, you can let someone know. Don't be oddly inflexible. 

I know. It's not Fight Club. 

[choclatechip45]

8 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I get that they made a deal to not mention the Cookout, but come on, people, it's FINAL EIGHT, the Cookout is about to be in the final SEVEN, you can let someone know. Don't be oddly inflexible. 

Seriously it is still The Cookout vs Alyssa anyway just more pressure for her to win HOH. 

[30 Helens]

X told Azah his plan: Tiff convinces Claire the best shot for getting X out is to put her up. That way she saves Claire’s vote while protecting the CO. Azah’s on board, but she thought it would be better to just tell Claire. “What show are you on?!” X says. “She’ll tell Alyssa!”

My question is, why are the 6 of you afraid of 1 skinny Latina girl? Do you really think she can take all of you out? (I guess he thinks she’ll taint the jury, not realizing that ship has already sailed.)

X thinks Deref will win AFP. He’s not as astute as I thought.

Edited September 5, 2021 by 30 Helens

[30 Helens]

X tries to suggest to Alyssa that Tiff might put up Claire or Hannah in a bid to get him out. Alyssa’s not buying it. “She’s not stupid.” And this is why Tiff might as well just tell Claire. Alyssa is going to see right through this, either way.

Unless Tiff totally breaks ranks and puts up Deref, which would be awesome.

[Brian Cronin]

55 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

X thinks Deref will win AFP. He’s not as astute as I thought.

No one is EVER on point with that stuff, so I don't begrudge him much for that. I think Nicole A. was the only time that the HGs knew she was going to win ahead of time.

[ByaNose]

Well, Big D did get $100 and I didn’t think he had a chance in hell in getting that. All he did was lay around for weeks on end and he was awarded $100. So I’m not sure how AFP translates between the casuals and the live feeders. In my mind Derek X or Tiffany should get it but what do I know. Most watchers could hate them. It will be interesting how it plays out. Also, the CO 6 might have some more influence as the end draws near. 

[30 Helens]

Azah is lobbying for a 3-2 vote so Claire will leave thinking only one person flipped and won’t be completely bitter, but X is fighting hard against it. He wants 4-1 because he doesn’t trust Ky not to take the shot. He doesn’t care about Claire’s feelings. And what if Claire and Alyssa put their heads together?

Hannah is second-teaming Alyssa, and doing a great job of it. Alyssa is actually thinking this whole flip-against-Tiff plan is her idea.

[choclatechip45]

Hannah is telling Alyssa that she will try to convince Tiffany to put up Claire....

[30 Helens]

12 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I’m not sure how AFP translates between the casuals and the live feeders. In my mind Derek X or Tiffany should get it but what do I know. Most watchers could hate them.

You have a point. I only read the boards on this site, but most of the broadcast-only people hate Tiff. And the people in the house seem to love Deref, for reasons that are mysterious to me.

Alyssa and Hannah just sealed their “plan” by making a F2. (“The Sloppy Seconds”) Damn, that Chaddah is good.

[Melina22]

15 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

And the people in the house seem to love Deref, for reasons that are mysterious to me.

We've heard him say some fairly nasty and angry things in the DR, but is he showing this side of himself to the HGs? 

I'm expecting Derex to be AFP. I think the public will view him as cute, harmless, loveable and an underdog. So a puppy. 😁 I'll be curious to see if I'm right. 

[30 Helens]

I haven’t seen Tiff since she told Claire she had a headache and glumly refused an offer of help, about 2 hours ago. Guess she went to bed.

But X is still annoyed with her because she tried to elicit a promise of staying off the block next time in exchange for putting up Claire. He tells Azah it’s Tiff’s own fault for being selfish and she’s in no position to bargain. She knew this was a possibility when she went for HoH. And with next week being a double, she just might find her ass out the door.

[Melina22]

Is X having some kind of mental breakdown? 

[ByaNose]

7 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

I haven’t seen Tiff since she told Claire she had a headache and glumly refused an offer of help, about 2 hours ago. Guess she went to bed.

But X is still annoyed with her because she tried to elicit a promise of staying off the block next time in exchange for putting up Claire. He tells Azah it’s Tiff’s own fault for being selfish and she’s in no position to bargain. She knew this was a possibility when she went for HoH. And with next week being a double, she just might find her ass out the door.

Yeah, the double is going to be tough with Tiff not able to play for HOH. The guys might all try to vote her out. No one is safe. I guess if Hannah wins she would put two guys up but they could also play for Veto. It’s going to be a crazy double with an HOH & Veto in play for the 6. Which means Big D will win HOH and finally get his revenge. LOL!!!! 

3 minutes ago, Melina22 said:

Is X having some kind of mental breakdown? 

Always. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by ByaNose

[30 Helens]

Alyssa will be the second person out on Thursday, unless she wins HoH (or veto again), at which point all hell will break loose. I would expect Tiff to go in that case.

From X’s perspective, I can understand why he’s irritated, although I don’t like what it means for Tiff. To keep things clean, neither X nor Tiff were supposed to win this week. Tiff took a chance, and now the rest of them are scrambling to cover. If the gamble had gone as she planned, I think she’d be in a great position. But it didn’t, she’s screwed, and she basically did it to herself. It sucks.

Claire has no idea she’s going up yet. She just told Hannah she doesn’t see Tiff making it to the end, but she will never turn against her. <sniff> 

Edited September 5, 2021 by 30 Helens

[30 Helens]

Which HG would you take on a weeklong trip if you had unlimited funds?

X: Christian 
Claire: X, for his spontaneity. Would have been Azah but her travel stories are scary.
Hannah: Deref or Alyssa (huh?)
Ky: Deref, Derex or Britini, because they are the three he could have the most impact on. (By brightening their drab little lives, is how it sounded. He’s such a giver.)

Azah is mad because nobody picked her. Deref is still mad from earlier when he thought he was being included from a guys trip because he’s not enough of a guy. (He wasn’t asked because they want to, like, do stuff, and he’s more of a margarita-at-poolside kind of guy.) 

[30 Helens]

Tiff came out of her room. She would take Claire. (She better.)

Hannahs’s zing was “Hannah who?” and that she’s irrelevant because nobody knows her name.

X’s zing, I learned earlier, was something about being in a showmance with Azah and he was freaking out that people might believe it. 

[Melina22]

1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

Hannahs’s zing was “Hannah who?” and that she’s irrelevant because nobody knows her name.

X’s zing, I learned earlier, was something about being in a showmance with Azah and he was freaking out that people might believe it. 

These are horrible zings. Not true even to episode-only watchers, and more importantly, not funny. BB needs to pay some decent writers who know how comedy works.

I have no problem with the concept of Zingbot even if it's silly, but a giant robot hurling lame, inaccurate schoolyard insults at people isn't good TV. 

[30 Helens]

Zingbot has always been stupid. I’ve always enjoyed Otev, but I don’t understand  why Zingbot is still a Thing. 

The 3 CO guys are preparing Tiff for her conversation with Claire and it’s like pre-trial witness prep. They tried to think of every argument Claire could make and how to counter. To solidify the argument, they’re role playing with Deref playing the part of Claire. It’s totally genius and at the same time completely heartbreaking. (I feel like I’m playing the part of Azah right now.)

[30 Helens]

Finally, they discuss next eviction and how to handle it, and it’s all very uncomfortable. Who wins HoH? Should Alyssa go up first or backdoor? What if Alyssa wins HoH? What if she wins veto? Who goes up then?

They are all very confused about the best way to handle it, and they’re all scared that Alyssa will win and they’ll be fucked. They assume battle back is a no go. They’re trying to figure out who would be the least ”suspicious “ noms based on who wins, and I say forget how it looks. Put up the two best CO comp competitors to have the best veto chance and then backdoor Alyssa.

CO council over. It will be interesting to see if Tiff can pull off the Claire nom without fireworks. 

[30 Helens]

Damn, I thought I was going to bed and now Deref is blowing shit up.

He recapped the above meeting for Azah and she brought up her feeing that this should be a 3-2 vote, to shield them. This led to Deref saying it’s time for her to start pulling her weight, and he’s been doing all the lying and manipulating for the both of them, and it’s time for her to step up and get her hands dirty, and Azah is NOT having it.

She lists all the ways she has contributed, he backpedals and says he didn’t mean it (He did), she says she believes him (Don’t), but after this week she’s done with all this. She’s also mad at having to suffer the blowback over Tiffany’s mistake.

She still wants to tell Claire the truth. (DO IT.)