Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Denize]

Hopefully Adam will be the sane one and suggest clueless Victor offer the bigger house to Victoria, Cole, Claire, Johnny & Katie.  The Tacky House would fit his family better (if he even wanted to live under surveillance by his father). Though Connor might be good living near Johnny, Katie & nature rather than living in a tiny apartment.

Raunch Reborn looks like it is 1/2 to 3/4 scale of the original with so much old stuff crammed in and archways so close to each other that there is barely room for wallspace in between the moldings.  Let's hope Victor doesn't try to carry Nikki up the stairs to bed again.

[babyhouseman]

Isn't the ranch where Adam gaslit Ashely when she thought she was pregnant? Maybe they can remember that next week.

[Js Nana]

On 11/7/2024 at 5:51 PM, Denize said:

So if it wasn't Jack on the phone

I still think that the highly public "I hate your stinkin' guts and your breath smells like dead skunks" fights were part of a plan to fool Victor into believing that Jack had banished Diane from the Abbottsphere so he'd buy Diane being available to work with him.

4 hours ago, Denize said:

Let's hope Victor doesn't try to carry Nikki up the stairs to bed again.

I seriously thought that's what he was going to try to do when they were doing a tour of the house.

[Js Nana]

7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I definitely don’t want to revisit Victor and Nikki’s creepy love story

I found the part where, in a flashback, Victor tells Nikki that he's loved her since the first moment he saw her, hilarious, because, of course, the first time he saw her was when she was taking off her clothes in front of a cheering crowd of customers at a gentleman's club called The Bayou - - how romantic!

 

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Dark Shadows?

Thanks, ScoobieDoobs, I was trying to remember what the decor reminded me of.

[Waldo13]

Let me get this straight. Victor offers Nick to live at the ranch house even though he has his own custom built home. He then offers Adam, who also owns his own condo to live at the ranch.  But Victor doesn’t offer the ranch house to Victoria who’s basically homeless and living in a small tack house.  

I also don’t get that Victor offers the new ranch as a venue for Abby’s and Devon’s wedding when it’s on the smaller size for a ritzy wedding.  Doesn’t Victor still own Top of The Tower which it would lend itself to being even more grand.  

By the way:  Victor being able to rebuild the old ranch house, in secret, 🤣🤣🤣🤣.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

18 hours ago, babyhouseman said:

Isn't the ranch where Adam gaslit Ashely when she thought she was pregnant? Maybe they can remember that next week.

At one point Ashley actually was pregnant and Adam caused her to fall down the stairs. She miscarried and Adam tossed the bloody towels into the fireplace. The scene stands as one of the most stunning things I've ever seen on a daytime soap because it was made clear Adam was holding the fetal remains inside the towels.

I seriously doubt the show will mention or even allude to that bit of history.

Edited Sunday at 04:44 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[lgprimes]

Nikki and Victor were, are and forever will be an awful couple. I could not turn off the show far enough on Friday.

 Can the people who own this show truly not know that we don’t like this guy?

[lilmarysunshine]

10 hours ago, surfgirl said:

They really glossed right over Victor's liaisons with Diane and Manbrina. Color me...confused yet relieved? I needn't rive the awfulness that was Vic cooing 'my darling' over and over to Manbrina, sending racks of gowns and Birkins to the raunch. Blech.

I forgot about Sabrina. lol

[NinjaPenguins]

11 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Can the people who own this show truly not know that we don’t like this guy?

Unfortunately I think the character of Victor is popular with a lot of people, including many who haven’t reevaluated what masculinity means since about 1950. My own mother cheered him throwing Diane out of an ambulance. (I keep hoping Sharon will confess to rigging the DNA test, but I look too much like my aunt to hope my parents found me on their doorstep) Guys who you wouldn’t expect to watch soaps will profess their admiration for misogynist toads like Victor Newman and Sonny Corinthos. This is all anecdotal, of course, but I suspect there’s a bigger audience for bullying dickheads than we realize.

[lgprimes]

48 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

but I suspect there’s a bigger audience for bullying dickheads than we realize.

This tracks with a recent non-Y&R event, of course, and makes me want to stay in bed in a fetal position for the rest of my life. 
Sorry, very much struggling these days.

 Keep the snark coming please fam!

[ASpring1900]

On 11/8/2024 at 4:05 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

I forgot the original ranch house had a sunroom.

I like the new sunroom set... though it does remind me of the CL area.

So, the new house is built on the site where the old one burned down, far enough from the current house that Nikki doesn’t even notice it. And then he just gives the current house to one of his sons? Got it!

I did like Nick's house set with the wall CD player as the security/lighting system. Anyone remember that one?

[Kemper]

I am cautiously optimistic about the new producer/director/show runner coming onboard. He is supposed to be excellent; and MTS's husband. We have had Nicki being front and center for what seems like months now. To the detriment of other characters being on camera. And when they are they sort of pop in and out. Even Nick and Victoria.  At least Nick's libido has not been driving story for awhile. 

I know that soaps have always done this. But with Nicki - the gaslighting by Claire; then the crazy whats-her-name aunt. The return of her drinking problem and emotional affair with Jack. Then the business story where she is going to head up Glissade. Victor has been constantly looming because that is what he has been doing for years. I look forward to Elena coming back but I know it will probably be brief. Yet Show is making room for a new family that we are not familiar with. Humbug.

[NinjaPenguins]

3 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Sorry, very much struggling these days.

You and me both, sister/brother.

3 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Keep the snark coming please fam!

I don’t think I could stop if I wanted to.

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

I am cautiously optimistic about the new producer/director/show runner coming onboard.

If he puts a stop to this “Phyllis, warrior for justice” nonsense, I’ll be a fan for life. 

[Kemper]

My cat was on my lap, napping, while I was strolling Facebook; waiting for RedZone to start (it was free today). I came upon a video of Yo-Yo Ma playing something soothing. My cat stood up and started rubbing his chin on the laptop, purring, while the music played. I have never seen him do this before; I guess we both needed soothing today. 

[lgprimes]

3 hours ago, ASpring1900 said:

And then he just gives the current house to one of his sons? Got it!

More Newman family misogyny. Didn’t Victoria’s house burn down this past year?? Why do the boys get offered the house? 
And Nikki will conveniently forget all of Victor’s unethical business moves, now that she has a new old house to be pampered in. She’s complicit.

[surfgirl]

5 hours ago, lgprimes said:

This tracks with a recent non-Y&R event, of course, and makes me want to stay in bed in a fetal position for the rest of my life. 
Sorry, very much struggling these days.

 Keep the snark coming please fam!

You are not alone friend. Big hugs, and much like watching Show, we can look away for a moment or ten whilst we engage in self care, but we cannot look away forever, we must take action. And speaking of action, if the new showrunner is as shitty as JG - is JG still there too?!? - then letter writing shall commence! We shall saddle up and ride at dawn!

[Denize]

21 hours ago, Js Nana said:

I seriously thought that's what he was going to try to do when they were doing a tour of the house.

Yes, the camera lingering on the view up the stairs was what got me worrying. The camera didn't linger on much else, which made it hard to compare the new raunch to memoies of the original.

[One Tough Cookie]

On 11/9/2024 at 7:24 AM, lilmarysunshine said:

Not sure what audience segment wanted that whole episode.

An episode that is interesting and makes sense.

Where is my pony?

[One Tough Cookie]

On 11/8/2024 at 2:59 PM, Denize said:

I'm sick of Summer and would love to see her eat a peanut butter & banana pancake

 Only to realize she has an allergy to nuts?

[taavir40]

9 hours ago, surfgirl said:

You are not alone friend. Big hugs, and much like watching Show, we can look away for a moment or ten whilst we engage in self care, but we cannot look away forever, we must take action. And speaking of action, if the new showrunner is as shitty as JG - is JG still there too?!? - then letter writing shall commence! We shall saddle up and ride at dawn!

He's still the head writer and EP and has been for 6 years now.

Ed Scott isn't a new showrunner. He's the senior producer. 

He takes on a role that involves fine-tuning the production side, especially given his experience. However, he isn't replacing  Josh Griffith as the showrunner. The showrunner—Griffith, in this case—remains the person with ultimate creative control, handling major storylines and overall direction, while the senior producer ensures that everything needed to bring those stories to life is efficiently managed.

This includes managing the production schedule, coordinating with department heads (like casting, set design, and wardrobe), and ensuring the show stays on budget and meets deadlines.

 

For example, the lighting is different, they use different camera angles and things like that. That's him.

[ByaNose]

Call me sappy I loved seeing the old flashbacks. I was watching the show back then. I started watching Y&R shortly before it became an hour long soap. Eric Braeden was so young and dashing (a little too skinny at first….LOL!!!!) but he hit his prime in the 80’s. Black leather jacket and all. MTS was so young and so fun as Nikki the stripper from the Bayou. Occasionally, she smiles and lights up a room but mostly she’s dour and looks down on the lower class trashy people. So rude. LOL!!!!

The new ranch looks great. I do wish the door was on the left because my OCD can’t handle it. It pretty much looks the same. I don’t recall how much time AM as Victoria spent on the old set but JM was definitely around for it and he was grinning from ear to ear. Another wedding held at someone’s house. Good lord! Don’t people go to church anymore? Which is funny because the last 3 or 4 weddings I’ve attended weren’t in churches either and it was perfectly normal. Times change and so must we. 

Finally, why after 20+ years is Bryant James as Devon still calling Victor Mr. Newman? The whole cast calls him Victor. I would hope after he marries Abby he gets to call him Victor.

Have a great week y’all. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

Finally, why after 20+ years is Bryant James as Devon still calling Victor Mr. Newman? The whole cast calls him Victor. I would hope after he marries Abby he gets to call him Victor.

I'd be more than happy if he started calling him "Hey, Asshole!"

But then, I'm just old-fashioned and sentimental that way.

[Joimiaroxeu]

7 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Finally, why after 20+ years is Bryant James as Devon still calling Victor Mr. Newman? The whole cast calls him Victor. I would hope after he marries Abby he gets to call him Victor.

Pretty sure Bryton James has said he insists on Devon calling Victor "Mr. Newman" as a sign of respect. In some cultures it's not proper to call people over a certain age or people x number of years older than you by their first name. Ever.

That said, I'm fairly confident Devon did call Mamie only by her name without the "Aunt" honorific, even though Lily and Nate didn't (at least not to her face). I assumed it was mostly because Devon barely knew Mamie and didn't consider himself actually related to her. By the end of Mamie's latest run it was obviously a sign of how done Devon was with Mamie and the way she was trying to interfere in C-W business.

On a personal note, one of my grandmothers was called by her first name (usually with an honorific) by some of her adult kids but not all of them. I could never figure out the difference. Then one time I tried it and got shut down hard.

14 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Only to realize she has an allergy to nuts?

Isn't Summer specifically allergic to peanuts, not nuts in general? 🤔

[One Tough Cookie]

59 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

ot nuts in general?

then she should stay far enuff from her mother.

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Isn't Summer specifically allergic to peanuts

The thing about peanuts is that they are not actually a nut, they are legumes, which are edible seeds that grow in pods - beans, excluding green beans, are legumes.

[Js Nana]

On 11/10/2024 at 9:12 AM, lgprimes said:

very much struggling these days.

I've spent the past five or so days talking a few people down off the ledge.

[Js Nana]

3 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

In some cultures it's not proper to call people over a certain age or people x number of years older than you by their first name. Ever.

Does that apply to your father-in-law - in the southern US, you can show respect for a person of older years with whom you have a familiar relationship by addressing them as Miss [first name] or Mr. [first name].

[Js Nana]

So, I'm watching a scene in Crimson Lights with Sharon conversing with ghost Cameron, and no one else in the place seems to be taking notice that she's holding a conversation with someone who isn't there.

[Kemper]

When we moved to the South, I noticed people addressing an elderly person by a Mr. or Miss ... and then their first name.  I say Nicki and Victor, going forward, should be Miss Nicki, Mr. Victor. I am waiting for the day we have a Mr. Jack, Miss Lauren, and best of all? Miss Phyllis.

[Denize]

From a recent scene at CL with Sharon sitting at a table across from Nick, it appeared that we see Sharon talking to the ghoul but Nick just sees her looking at something off to the side but her lips aren't moving.  I take that to mean that only we are able to see Sharon's imagined interactions with CamRon.  After seeing Sharon looking at things that aren't there dozens of time, perhaps Nick should suggest taking her to her doctor.

[boes]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

When we moved to the South, I noticed people addressing an elderly person by a Mr. or Miss ... and then their first name.  I say Nicki and Victor, going forward, should be Miss Nicki, Mr. Victor. I am waiting for the day we have a Mr. Jack, Miss Lauren, and best of all? Miss Phyllis.

I will not miss Phyllis.

Nope, I'm driving right at her.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hey, it's Ashley.

Holey moley, that humongous bouquet of white flowers on the piano at the ranch house. They must've been left over from Heather's funeral, lol.

Well, if Martin is masquerading as Alan he's certainly fooled Ashley--so far.

Loved Lauren's bright red dress, from what was shown of it anyway cropped jacket and pants set. (Per Worn on TV.)

Ghoul Cameron! Where ya been, buddy? Sharon could've used your help at Heather's memorial. She ran out of the GCAC like a maniac and seemed to be overreacting.

Ugh, more tongue baths for Victor over the new old ranch house. If his ego swells any bigger he won't even be able to squeeze his head through the French doors.

I think Sharon made a good point to Nick. Phyllis does have, for example, the hacking skills to create phony cell phone data. She could set Sharon up as a suspect based on planted evidence.

Meanwhile, Sharon's coat. Velour or brushed suede?

Jill letting Victor make her second-guess herself was not okay for me. She knows he'll never stop badmouthing and undermining Billy. Jill! Hang tough!!!

Traci. You might need to cool it on the Mother Hen act and carrying gossip between your family members and Newmans. The life you save may be Jack's.

Whoa, Sharon is gonna plant evidence in Phyllis' hotel suite. She better hope Phyllis doesn't have a security camera in there.

Edited 18 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[Sake614]

I’m so sick of ‘Victor knows best.’ No, Victor, Lily does NOT want to work with Devon. If that’s what she wanted she doesn’t need your blessing to do it. Fuck ‘what Neil would want’ or ‘what Catherine would want.’ How about somebody ask what LILY wants? She wants chancellor. She’s said as much more times than I can count. To both Victor and Jill. Victor just wants to give Nikki a shiny new toy to play with to keep her distracted.

[lgprimes]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

She wants chancellor. She’s said as much more times than I can count. To both Victor and Jill

I am for real sick of all the menfolk telling Lily what is best for her. And Jill had BEST not let me down by going along with that. Jill has been one of the strongest female characters on this show for decades. We need her to help Lily get the W.

 Also good to see Ashley back in town!

 The new ranch is so distracting with its stairway identical to the GCAC. Also it is bringing back memories of how I always called this show “the dark show” when I was a teenager, because the sets and lighting were always so somber.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by lgprimes
Grammar

[Waldo13]

Please correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Manic Phyllis🕷️ trip and fall down the stairs while her and Sharon were wrestling over a phone. 

 

It doesn’t even matter, in GC, that if Manic Phyllis🕷️can even find evidence, it’s not admissible.  Even if Sharon confesses to Manic Phyllis🕷️, it’s not an admissible confession. 

 

Sharon’s paranoia is going to do her in. 

 

[NinjaPenguins]

A Simple Recap - Bad Loon Rising

So many loons, so little time.

Nikki is playing the piano at the re-raunch. Big fucking whoop. Victor smiles benevolently down at her, not unlike a hyena stumbling across a day old gazelle carcass.

Ashley is welcomed home by the Abbott family and Alan. Naturally, talk turns to Victor’s raunch masterpiece, a feat so magnificent and inspiring that even Jack is moved to offer his grudging respect. Abby simply must take her mother to the wedding venue. You know that awkward moment when your husband’s former sidepiece shows up at your home with their stolen sperm baby because you’re inexplicably hosting the heisted jizz dumpling’s wedding? No? Make sure to watch today’s episode then. Victor gets a phone call and flees the lady vibes.

The loon of the hour is quite clearly Phyllis, and she’s sharing scenes with someone who hallucinates dead stalkers so… She comes tearing ass into Crimson Lights to browbeat a confession out of Sharon again, smugly asserting she has proof. Really, bish? For someone proclaiming they’ll do anything to keep their son out of a prison, it’s super weird that Phyllis isn’t rushing exonerating evidence straight to the police or DA. Nick, tired and sore from trying to replicate the Kool-Aid Man’s signature wall breaker for Christian’s amusement, steps in with his half-assed bullshit. He really believes he’s the magical nightmare whisperer.

Christine and Daniel discuss the case. Christine thinks blind, rabid squirrel Phyllis has found herself a nut with her Sharon theory. Daniel is sensibly skeptical, but Christine is like OMG, did you see how scared Sharon looked when that human screech owl dive bombed her? Hey, Christine, how did you look when Phyllis’ headlights were bearing down on you? Car headlights or kiwis in support hose - either way.

Victor meets Jill at his office and is a rude, offensive dickhead. He insults her son repeatedly (I know it’s Billy, but to his mom’s face?) and desecrates the memories of Neil and Katherine by invoking their names in his manipulative efforts to acquire an expensive new toy for his entitled asshole of a wife. Jill would be happy to reappoint Lily CEO, but Victor knows in his shriveled, coal black heart that Lily really, really wants to work with Devon at Winters. Patronizing, sexist creep.

Traci decides it would be just fantastic to let Jack know that Diane was conspiring with Victor. Jack is not amused.

Dead Cam returns and tries to talk Sharon through the rough patch in her criminal mastermind career. She spaces out on Nick and seems to bask in bloody Cameron’s approval. Sharon turns the tables on Nick by accusing him of starting to believe Phyllis. Cameron advises her to double check Phyllis’ claim and then really steps up his campaign to earn my admiration by suggesting that Phyllis be gotten rid of. World’s smartest delusion, right there.

Phyllis unloads her venom on Lauren, who clearly thinks she’s cray. Look into the endless black hole of Phyllis’ narcissism as she explains that best friends agree with everything you say, no matter how unhinged. Phyllis talks all about the great evil Sharon is capable of, ignoring that her rap sheet is long enough to re-wrap Victor twice over before returning him to his cursed sarcophagus.

Sharon skulks into the athletic club with her lockpicking tools to investigate Phyllis’ lair. 

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Victor smiles benevolently down at her, not unlike a hyena stumbling across a day old gazelle carcass.

This is GOLD, Jerry, GOLD! 

[ScoobieDoobs]

Wowza, Vic actually made it down the GCAC look-alike staircase in that gloomy, gloomy, gloomy joint.  Shockers!  OK, he did hold onto the bannister & then the wall for dear life, but he made it.  In that Dark Shadows monstrosity, I expected Vic to rise outta his coffin & show us his fangs.  Wait, that didn't happen?

Phyllis sounds nuts & Sharon acts loony.  Yawn, another day with "Y" in it.  So we learned Lauren is Phyllis' best friend?  Really?  Um, OK.  Didn't Phyllis tell the bartender, who looked at her like she was a nutbag he wanted to get far, far, far away from, that she had no friends?  Guess she forgot about Lauren?  Btw, has Lauren actually stopped wearing one-shoulder leopard-print cave-lady dresses?  Say it ain't so!

Christine sounded like an idiot & a really shitty & ineffective lawyer.  Could Phyllis be right about her?  Eek, minds are blown!

Vic & Jill?  Interesting how Vic smiles & speaks softly when he's at his most insulting & condescending.  What a dick.  Jill acknowledged it, defended herself & her son, without acting like a lunatic.  An unusual thing for the women of GC.  She's tough, but a class act.  Don't count her out yet!

Don't throw tomatoes at me, but I was little (maybe a little more than a little) glad to see Ghost Cam.

And there's Ashley & she's all sunshine, smiley-faces, daffodils, rainbows . . . and I was thinkin' she must be on fistfuls of mood-altering meds cuz she was way too happy-happy-happy.  So she didn't recognize that Alan isn't Alan, but that he's really Dead Martin?  Well, she only talked to him for 3 seconds.  And she's high on those meds.  Give it time & wait for the meds to wear off.  Dead Martin will reveal himself, but Show is gonna drag this storyline out.

[ezzylin]

Did Phyllis really say that Sharon pushed her down the stairs? The audience was shown two versions of that scene- one with MS and the other with GT; in both versions, it was clear that Phyllis slipped and fell. I'm wondering if MS ad-libbed this line or if JG just can't be bothered to review the old tapes of the show.

[NinjaPenguins]

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Don't throw tomatoes at me, but I was little (maybe a little more than a little) glad to see Ghost Cam.

Are you kidding? I’m positively elated to see him, especially now that he’s bringing bold, fresh ideas to the table like shitcanning Phyllis. We need that creativity. Glowing caveman Nick just wasn’t cutting it.

[One Tough Cookie]

Just how did Sharon get the key to Daniels' room?  Did I  miss some thing?

[MollyB]

16 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Victor just wants to give Nikki a shiny new toy to play with to keep her distracted.

Like building her a Replica Raunch isn't enough!  She can spend the rest of her days playing Clearly the Loon and not even have to worry about corporate intrigue.  Which may be just what Viktor is hoping will distract her because I think Vik has other plans that don't include Nikki for Chancellor.  If Nikki didn't notice that a whole new house was being built on the property for, oh, probably the last year, how can she run a large corporation?

And if I never hear "what Catherine/Neil would want" again, I will die happy.  It brings to mind the line in Game of Thrones-something about the Dead never Die.

2 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Just how did Sharon get the key to Daniels' room?  Did I  miss some thing?

A conveniently located housekeeping cart that the housekeeper left her lanyard (you know, that thing you wear around your neck so you won't lose your pass key) on.

[lgprimes]

CHANCE! 
Baby you are such a bad cop today. Sharon ADMITTED to breaking and entering (a CRIME) to find out what proof Phyllis has that she committed murder- which she would know was non-existent if she didn’t do the crime. And yet, AND YET!, you give Phyllis a hard time and let Sharon still out the door? WEAK.

 Speaking of weak, Sharon Case’s acting in that scene, where she was pretty obviously holding back laughter.

 Lastly, JILL don’t you dare let me down girl!! You tell VictorNewman to go take a hike now y’hearme?

Edited 57 minutes ago by lgprimes
Typo

[CountryGirl]

On 11/11/2024 at 2:33 PM, Denize said:

From a recent scene at CL with Sharon sitting at a table across from Nick, it appeared that we see Sharon talking to the ghoul but Nick just sees her looking at something off to the side but her lips aren't moving.  I take that to mean that only we are able to see Sharon's imagined interactions with CamRon.  After seeing Sharon looking at things that aren't there dozens of time, perhaps Nick should suggest taking her to her doctor.

They don't call him Nick-DUH-las for a reason.

Oh wait, that's probably just me.