Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Chatty Cake]

35 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

Also was @Chatty Cake referencing Raul or Bobby? I think of Bobby more as the lover not Raul, lol.

It was Raul. I didn’t watch during this time period but I heard her say his name. 

 

23 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

OK--I know I am gonna sound like a bitch today, but I have to say this:  What she did to herself was positively criminal.  She was a beautiful woman with a normal voice to turn into an over filled/Botox woman who has lost the ability to speak.  Her vocal cords must have been affected by the procedures; or she must have become a heavy smoker because she WAS nothing like she is today.  And it really is a crime, because she was so beautiful back then.  And I am sorry if I sound bitchy, but it really is a crime.

You don’t sound like a bitch. It’s crazy how everyone over the age of 35 has an artificial look. I think even Heather, who can’t be that old, has that plastic look. I forgot how pretty Sharon was until I saw her on these flashback episodes. Lauren too, also looks overdone. I do feel for the actresses as they are critiqued as they age and these HD tvs show every flaw. 

[stewedsquash]

On 12/26/2023 at 8:46 PM, Waldo13 said:

That cabin looks familiar but I just can’t place it where I’ve seen it before.  Cole said that’s were his mother took him but I’m quite sure it was used by someone else. 

I also immediately thought I had seen it before and I kept getting taken out of the scene trying to figure it out. I came up with: wasn’t it where Nick and Adam bonded when a storm or something trapped one of them during that whole Adam wasn’t to blame for killing that guy who was hurting Hope when he was a child?

[boes]

29 minutes ago, stewedsquash said:

I also immediately thought I had seen it before and I kept getting taken out of the scene trying to figure it out. I came up with: wasn’t it where Nick and Adam bonded when a storm or something trapped one of them during that whole Adam wasn’t to blame for killing that guy who was hurting Hope when he was a child?

That place looked familiar to me too, but I don't think it was Hope's farmhouse.  I think, very well may be wrong, but it reminded me of that cabin Carmine lured Lauren to after she broke off their affair, where he kept her captive till Michael rescued her.  It's a long time ago, though, and I could have it all wrong.

[stewedsquash]

No I don’t mean it was the farm house. It was during that storyline and was an abandoned place that Nick and Adam wound up in.

Eta there was a tornado and they were trapped in a storm cellar then after wound up in that Nikki/Jordan/Claire cabin. I think they used the set as Kansas and now as the Wisconsin cabin from Cole’s childhood summer rental.

 

Hell it could even be the Abbott cabin set covered in twenty tons of dust.

Edited January 2 by stewedsquash

[Joimiaroxeu]

Instead of Claire I wish we had gotten Colleen back from the dead. Let it turn out that the heart transplanted into Victor was from a drunk the EMTs found dying in an alley. I've never understood why Traci agreed to donate Colleen's heart to Victor knowing all the crap he's done to the Abbotts.

[stewedsquash]

I wish Ashley and Brad’s fantastic house set had come back from the dead. I also miss Brad and his whistling s’s.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Ashley and Brad’s fantastic house set

Did they use part of it for Aunt Jordan's house in OR? It would have been cleaned out and lightened up a lot because as I vaguely recall, that set was darker and heavily decorated like the Abbott manse.

Whatever, Abby inherited the mansion from Brad and I've always wondered why she's never moved back in there in recent years. For someone as wealthy as she is, she acts like she'd be homeless if she didn't have other people to move in with.

[MollyB]

11 hours ago, stewedsquash said:

Hell it could even be the Abbott cabin set covered in twenty tons of dust.

I thought it was the cabin where Kevin was held captive by his then wife who had the brain tumor.  I also had glimmers of the boat house.

 

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I've never understood why Traci agreed to donate Colleen's heart to Victor knowing all the crap he's done to the Abbotts.

She's a saint.

[Js Nana]

On 12/29/2023 at 10:53 AM, MsMalin said:

No show today. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Did you mean no new show, because they did run a repeat from 2003, which proved that Nick's facial expressions have never changed, that Kevin was a pyromaniac in his youth, and that in soap land, characters who were barely out of their teens in 2003 can become many-times-married grandparents in 20 short years - - and that Sharon Case had to have had some major work done during her 2023 hiatus from the show, because, cosmetically, she closely resembles the Sharon Case of 2003.

[Js Nana]

16 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

these HD tvs show every flaw.

I guess the reason why I'm not a fan of High Definition TV is because I don't want to feel like what I'm watching has, in a manner of speaking, invaded the room I'm sitting in.

16 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

It’s crazy how everyone over the age of 35 has an artificial look.

They have that stuffed look, like a sofa that's been reupholstered.

[Js Nana]

1. Is the character of Heather intentionally written as bland, or is that just how the actor plays her?

2. Did Sharon Case spend time at the kind of rejuvenation facility you'd only find on an episode of the Twilight Zone, because even her neck looks smoothed out.

3. I guffawed till my ribs hurt after hearing TGVN claim that NE has thrived all these years because the family, including Adam, has worked together as a unit.

[stewedsquash]

2 hours ago, MollyB said:

I thought it was the cabin where Kevin was held captive by his then wife who had the brain tumor.  I also had glimmers of the boat house.

 

She's a saint.

A saint with a creepy smile.

[Js Nana]

One thing I noticed about the 2003 reruns on Friday, 12/29/23 and Monday, 1/1/24 was that Josh Griffith's name wasn't listed at all in the credits, and that the Y&R of 2003 had SEVEN writers.

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, Js Nana said:

because even her neck looks smoothed out

Actually, I stand corrected - on closer examination, when the Ms. Case turns her head in certain directions, the skin on her neck does crinkle up - oh for the days of soap opera yesteryear, when a 52-year-old character would look 52.

[Joimiaroxeu]

It's New Year's Day in GC. Okay.

Wonder where Chance was, and why he wasn't at the coffeehouse with Sharon?

After what she's just been through, you'd think they'd have Claire medicated. Sounded like she's sinking deep into depression.

Victor finally moved the booze away from Nikki's temptation--at home anyway. There's still plenty of other places she could go have some firewater.

Aw geez, Nick wants Sharon as Claire's therapist? Surely there's someone available in GC who doesn't have a long history with Claire's new family. Plus, most of Sharon's kids are related to Claire. Sharon would hardly be objective, but maybe that's what Nick prefers.

Oof, that flashback of Victor screaming at Nikki for drinking did not do him any favors. But of course Nikki had to act grateful anyway. Ugh.

I liked those NYE champagne flutes in the jazz lounge.

And now it's the day after New Year's Day in GC. Okay.

Lol, Adam finally got clued in on the Jordan and Claire saga. Wonder if Abby knows all of it yet?

The Newmans stay expecting free coffeehouse therapy. I don't know about Victoria taking advice from Sharon. They're far from friends and again, Sharon's not going to be objective about Newman stuff that could affect her children.

Cole talking to Claire while she was asleep was a tad creepy to me. And he acted like he knew he shouldn't have been doing it. Ehhh, Cole, don't disappoint us.

[Waldo13]

2024, begins with the march of the Grump-A-Lumpas. Sally and Adam excepted. 

 

Victor and Nikki = 🥱😴. 

 

There is a line from the Meatloaf song “Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad which goes:

You’ll never find your gold on a sandy beach

You’ll never drill for oil on a city street

I know you’re looking for a ruby in a pile of rocks

But there ain’t no Coupe de Ville hiding in the bottom of a Cracker Jack box.  

Sharon didn’t get the car but she definitely found her degree in the bottom of the box. 

 

Why did Adam have to shave?  I think he looked really good with his scruff.  

 

[One Tough Cookie]

FASHION POLICE BULLETIN:

Sharon--that schemata you wore in the beginning of the show was a true crime against humanity.  Really girl, don't you have a mirror?

HOWEVER--you redeemed yourself with that gorgeous blue blouse.  It was perfection!

I wonder if the actresses' have the ability to say NO I WON'T WEAR THAT?  

[mjt626]

I wish one of the writers would have thrown in a line from Sharon about how she and Mariah didn’t start off on a good note as mother and daughter. Or knowing what it’s like to find a child that you thought died/never knew existed. It’s like someone knew Sharon and Victoria should talk, but didn’t know why.

[Peppermint]

After years of overweight Nikki being dressed in the most unattractive way possible....today she looked positively skinny, and her outfit was plain, but very flattering. Got new wardrobe minions ??

WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH THE GC PSYCH HOSPITAL ??!! People wander in and out of unlocked patient rooms [sometimes taking the patients with them]. Claire might wake up to find some creepy scruffy old man mumbling in a chair by her bedside. Isn't she traumatized enough already ?? Isn't knocking, and waiting for permission to enter the polite thing to do ?? 

BB Billy, don't get all sanctimonious about who's boinking who. IIRC you were at one time ruffling the feathers of phyllisoraptor's fledgling ??

❤️‍🔥Sally and Adam.

 

[lilmarysunshine]

2 hours ago, Peppermint said:

 

❤️‍🔥Sally and Adam.

 

For me, that ship has sailed.

Adam deserves better than Nick’s leftovers and that horrible storyline where Adam gave the orders to sacrifice their baby did them in as a couple for me. 

Edited January 3 by lilmarysunshine

[boes]

If downing a shot every time Victor said "Baby" to Nikki, I'd have been snookered by the time I got to the first Cialis commercial.  I notice in the flashback that his pet name for Nikki was "My Sweetheart".  EB's life got so much easier with the advent of cell phones so he could just read his lines off that.

I don't know why Show thinks it's a good look for Nick to be such a constant prick to Adam after Adam saved his life and gave a kidney to his daughter.  Not a good look, but then again, Nick hasn't looked good since he was a blonde little kid and was played by someone other than Grunty McFartson.

I'm sure that when Victor had the alcohol cleared away, he moved his tequila to the bedroom he shares with Baby.  He's just that thoughtful.

Today was supposed to be New Years Day, right?  So why were all the Newman Nudnicks at work??  Most people, especially suit people don't work the actual holiday.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Today was supposed to be New Years Day, right?  So why were all the Newman Nudnicks at work??  Most people, especially suit people don't work the actual holiday.

It was a  bit confusing but the episode started on New Years Day and about mid-episode it rolled over to January 2nd. Everyone had changed clothes and there were cues in the dialgue to indicate they were past the holiday. We'll see how long they stay on 01/02 though. Usually one day in GC lasts a week or more in real time.

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I wonder if the actresses' have the ability to say NO I WON'T WEAR THAT?  

Heh, apparently SC doesn't. Sharon seems to have a closet full of schmattas which are either bad colors for her or ill-fitting. There's no consistency to her look, compared to say, Diane or Phyllis.

[NinjaPenguins]

10 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Adam deserves better than Nick’s leftovers and that horrible storyline where Adam gave the orders to sacrifice their baby did them in as a couple for me

Nick partook of Adam’s leftovers like the second class bilge rat he is. I would go so far as to say the only reason Nick took up with Sally was her status as Adam’s ex.

To be fair, Adam did pursue Sharon, so he’s not averse to leftovers. I’ll always be grateful that Adam has looked upon Phyllis with only disgust.

[VanillaBeanne]

At this point, haven’t Adam and Nick been with FOUR of the same women.  I wasn’t a religious watcher of Y&R back in the day so could be wrong, but there is Sharon, Chelsea, Sage and Sally.  I believe Adam was with Chelsea and Sally first but Nick had first dibs (sorry for the crudeness) on Sharon and Sage. So not sure why Sally sleeping with Nick should be an issue for purposes of the show, since I believe Adam has had no issue sleeping with Sharon, Chelsea, and Sage after Nick had sex with them.  (Again, could be wrong about Sage - never watched that storyline)  

That said, In real life, I would consider both Nick and Adam sick garbage people for repeatedly going after the same women.  Much in the same way I would move social circles if everyone around me averages 2-3 marriages per decade.  Or shun and shame anyone who dated people who they are somewhat related to (by adoption, marriage or past belief of erroneous biological kinship).  
 

But the Bold and Beautiful wouldn’t exist without all these scenarios so I just play along. 

Edited January 3 by VanillaBeanne

[boes]

1 hour ago, VanillaBeanne said:

 Or shun and shame anyone who dated people who they are somewhat related to (by adoption, marriage or past belief of erroneous biological kinship).  

But the Bold and Beautiful wouldn’t exist without all these scenarios so I just play along. 

Just recently, on another site that shall not be named other than to say it rhymes with "Bays of Our Lives", one character had a mad crush on the son of her father's fiancee.  Her response to the ick factor was "Well, I guess technically, you're my stepbrother". 

There ain't no "technically" no matter the character, no matter the show.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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shun and shame anyone who dated people who they are somewhat related to (by adoption, marriage or past belief of erroneous biological kinship).

AFAIC, no shared DNA, no problem if both people are consenting adults. Socially icky? Maybe, and the concerned parties probably shouldn't have kids because then the offspring might have a shadow hanging over them too.

Frankly, I think everyone in GC should get 23andMe tests so they know where the potential problems are wrt romantic partners for themselves and their children. Imagine what would've happened if Adam or Nick had never found out Claire was their niece.

[Unathletic Club]

Danny lecturing Daniel on the importance of letting people know where they stand was hilarious. Like father, like son I guess. 

I wonder how Phyllis will find out about the tryst at "the lake". ( Is there only one in Wisconsin?). And how will she spoil it? 

a) putting a dead racoon in the bed

b) dressing up as a maid and putting plastic on the toilet seat

c) Getting the feckless Danny to invite her along somehow

 

 

 

[MsMalin]

3 hours ago, VanillaBeanne said:

So not sure why Sally sleeping with Nick should be an issue for

I think  the big issue was when she became pregnant with Adams child. That was just disgusting.

[Waldo13]

As BlueFang🕷️entered CL, I thought that her ensemble was not complete without her scythe. 

It’s Deja Vu all over again. I got to give it to BlueFang🕷️ though, because she’s relentless. She lost Jack to Diane and now she’s about to loose Danny to Christine.  

I just can’t figure it out how the monkeys with a keyboard made Sharon look about 10 years younger. I for one thought Sharon look exceptionally good when she was speaking to Summer❄️❄️❄️.  Did Sharon give Summer❄️❄️❄️ the green light to jump Chance’s bones or did she make Summer❄️❄️❄️ that her relationship with Chance would also just be fun and games.  I really don’t think that Chance would be asking either one of them for anything more.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

Interesting how the offices in the psychiatric ward require keys to enter but anyone can stroll in and out of a patient's room.

I liked Christine's blowout.

"Old people get sleepy." Lucy's got jokes, tee hee. Yeah, especially old people who were knocking back bottles premium ale all evening.

Real talk from Cricket to Phyllis, even with the tinge of snark. But I think she's the last person who should've been delivering it. All Phyllis ever hears coming from Christine's face is challenge and disapproval.

Here comes Summer to play referee between her mommy and her mommy's nemesis. Something, something, glass houses, Summer.

Okay, Danny said to Christine that it was New Year's Day. But Victoria was wearing the dress she had on when she went to the office on January 2nd, just long enough to tell everyone she was taking time off. WTAF, JG. Is GC now in the multiverse? 😱

Yeesh, Summer, you just put your foot in your mouth big time. How are you going to ask Sharon if she's in love with Chance? What difference does it make, he's still not single. Loved the "chile, please" look Sharon gave Summer.

Ruh, roh. Chance just walked into a possible shifting of the romantic winds. Seems like Sharon was giving Summer permission to go for it. Be nice if they asked Chance what he wants instead of passing him around like a tray of appetizers.

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, boes said:

There ain't no "technically" no matter the character, no matter the show.

They won't be step anything until her father marries his mother, so they can screw each other silly.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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I think  the big issue was when she became pregnant with Adams child. That was just disgusting.

Was the problem that Sally was getting intimate with Nick, or that she was doing it with someone who wasn't Adam? Either way, I was mostly disgusted with Nick for repeatedly shoving his peen so close to his unborn nephew's niece's head. Every time he got with Sally I bet Adam was in the forefront of Nick's mind.

ETA: geez, it was all Ava, all the time. D'oh!

Edited January 4 by Joimiaroxeu

[Js Nana]

3 hours ago, VanillaBeanne said:

At this point, haven’t Adam and Nick been with FOUR of the same women.

Well Sharon's one up on them, she's been with Nick, Adam and Victor.

[lilmarysunshine]

7 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Nick partook of Adam’s leftovers like the second class bilge rat he is. I would go so far as to say the only reason Nick took up with Sally was her status as Adam’s ex.

To be fair, Adam did pursue Sharon, so he’s not averse to leftovers. I’ll always be grateful that Adam has looked upon Phyllis with only disgust.

And Nick is not too good for Adam’s leftovers. lol

52 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Well Sharon's one up on them, she's been with Nick, Adam and Victor.

And Dylan, Nikki’s son, so also Nick’s brother. So has Chelsea. 

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Was the problem that Sally was getting intimate with Nick, or that she was doing it with someone who wasn't Adam? Either way, I was mostly disgusted with Nick for repeatedly shoving his peen so close to his unborn nephew's head. Every time he got with Sally I bet Adam was in the forefront of Nick's mind.

Totally agree, but I was more disgusted with Sally blabbing to everyone and anyone that Adam was the father.  Just NO girl, what were you thinking?

Any way you look at it, Nick is a sleaze

[NinjaPenguins]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Be nice if they asked Chance what he wants instead of passing him around like a tray of appetizers.

Could someone get me an invite to the party where these appetizers are being served? Thanks in advance!

[One Tough Cookie]

18 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Could someone get me an invite to the party where these appetizers are being served? Thanks in advance!

My husband walked in when Chansome came on the screen and I had to bite my tongue not to say "isn't he gorgeous?"

[boes]

7 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Be nice if they asked Chance what he wants instead of passing him around like a tray of appetizers.

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Could someone get me an invite to the party where these appetizers are being served? Thanks in advance!

If that was our dear Nick being compared to an appetizer, we'd know that the appetizer in question was definitely Pigs in Blankets.

Which reminds me of Nick, Sage and the Dropcloth of Despair.

[surfgirl]

I laughed at Mop cornering a staff member of the psych ward and acting like she was entitled to free therapy in the hallway.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Which reminds me of Nick, Sage and the Dropcloth of Despair.

This is why Phyllis and Nick should get back together. Between her and dumpsters and him and janitor closets, neither of them has a point that's too low to go for some secksay times. Ugh.

Edited January 5 by Joimiaroxeu

[Pop Tart]

19 hours ago, VanillaBeanne said:

So not sure why Sally sleeping with Nick should be an issue for purposes of the show,

For me it would never be great as I hate Nick, but the biggest ick I have with it is the timing. Sally and Adam had just broken up and it was 100% clear that not only was Adam still deeply in love with her, but also clear, was that Sally still loved Adam (even to neanderthal Nick). Nick knew that he was sticking a knife in Adam and he was happy to do it. It was all so rushed, because of the writing I'm sure, and felt deliberately mean.

I don't remember the Sage era at all (may not have been watching then), but as to Sharon: she and Nick had been on/off for years and had had many different partners between them. When she got with Adam I believe they were pretty long broken up and Nick was with Phyllis - could be wrong on that - so Adam and Sharon falling for each other felt like a more natural progression. At least that's my memory.

All colored, I'm sure, by my liking Adam and hating Nick. 😉

[One Tough Cookie]

9 hours ago, boes said:

If that was our dear Nick being compared to an appetizer, we'd know that the appetizer in question was definitely Pigs in Blankets

Thank you for brightening my morning!

eta:  I better see Tucker today.

Edited January 4 by One Tough Cookie

[NinjaPenguins]

Ah, the Hammertoes Period. Adam was in a car accident, Gabriel Bingham died saving him, and then, as one does, Sage had Adam surgically remade into Gabe.The real Gabriel and Sage were actually married, I believe. In a truly improbable twist, Nick was friends with Gabe at boarding school. I’m sorry. I refuse to believe Nick had anyone around him except swirlie, wet Willie and atomic wedgie victims. Sage wasn’t his brother’s leftovers, but Nick did partake of his “friend’s.” Lol, friends with Nick. Very imaginative.

[MsMalin]

I thought Eric Braedans  "acting" was absolutely atrocious yesterday when speaking with My Baby. He Griffin sounded like he was speaking to a 4 year old. It was embarrassing. 

Edited January 4 by MsMalin

[Skarzero]

3 hours ago, Pop Tart said:

For me it would never be great as I hate Nick, but the biggest ick I have with it is the timing. Sally and Adam had just broken up and it was 100% clear that not only was Adam still deeply in love with her, but also clear, was that Sally still loved Adam (even to neanderthal Nick). Nick knew that he was sticking a knife in Adam and he was happy to do it. It was all so rushed, because of the writing I'm sure, and felt deliberately mean

You took the words right out of my mouth. 

Also Sage was just a one nighter. If memory serves, Adam didn't really give a fuck about her romantically before or after that.

As for the others like Chelsea/Nick, Chelsea being a con-artist/Billy's rapist no one expected much from her to start with. So moving on to Nick after Adam died, while suspect, was totally feasible for the likes of her. 

Expectations were high for Sally. Her chemistry with Adam breathed new life and enthusiasm into the show (as much a soap pairing could nowadays). And as mentioned above Adam actually loved her, and hadn't done anything to deserve watching her fuck his brother for over a year. Unlike Nick's philandering ass, who took Sharon for granted. Completely earning the sight of orginal recipe Shadam. 

I also think the way Courtney Hope portrayed Sally also had a hand in things. Sally brushed Adam off like he was lint off her coat and acted as if she wasn't doing anything remotely shitty/hurtful by hooking up with Nick 5 seconds after they broke up. To the point that Courtney Hope felt the need to say that Sally still felt conflicted over both brothers, which most viewers accurately called bullshit on. She had not done a good job of portraying that "confliction" which is why this Adam/Sally reunion isn't hitting hard. Don't get me wrong I'm glad she not with Nick anymore, but the rest is just too little, and far too late. 

[Lamima]

Today's USA episode (not Canada)....Sharon Case had more surgery and wowza she looks sooooo fake. Girl, just be natural. Gonna end up looking like Madonna.

[MsMalin]

What alcoholic goes to a bar and orders water to sneak booze into? If she wanted to sneak booze wouldn't she just go into a stall in the bathroom at work and swig it straight from the flask? That was just so dumb.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

I thought Sharon Case looked much younger the last couple of days. Loved her blow out and side part.  Her lips looked more in proportion and her eyes were not squinty but more open.    

 

 

[Julyolo]

Happy New Year! Sorry to be mia, but my house got flooded New Year's Day. Reading your great posts makes me think a live feed from my house might have been better viewing! I hope the show gives Claire's psychiatric treatment at least as much, or more serious consideration than Chelsea's. Claire has just learned the true identity of her parents and herself. She was groomed to be a Mancurian candidate, and now she's stuck with the Mop as her mother, Drinki as her grandmother, and a Grampire. IMO, all this should justify YEARS of inpatient treatment.

[One Tough Cookie]

@Julyolo--sorry to hear about your house--hope you have good insurance. Claire's room was the exact room Chelsea was in last year.  I'm expecting Sharon to come running in and offer her expertise.