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14 hours ago, Sake614 said:

How do you figure that? Presuming Summer s his mother, that makes Nick his grandfather and Phyllis his grandmother. Victoria is his aunt.

Kyle was being sarcastic and so was I. Claire and Kyle noted how Harrison considers Claire his substitute mommy while Summer's away in Italy. Along that substitute genetic line, Victoria would be Harrison's grandmommy, and Nikki his great-grandmommy. Harrison himself confirmed this later in the episode by referring to Nikki as his "GiGi."

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I got a giggle that the party planner's very first idea was doing stripper poles -- and putting a bright spotlight on Nikki's past.  While Nikki doesn't seem to hide her stripper past (it's so well-known, she can't), she certainly doesn't bring it up, particularly cuz she wants to push so hard to keep up her fancy-shmancy, snooty, serious businesswoman image.  

So why'd Claire look so shocked at the mention of stripper poles?  Oh please, Claire, enough with your goody-goody act.  It's really stale, hun.  I kinda wanna see Harrison say -- oooh Great-grandma was a stripper, how cooool!

And the stripper pole idea mighta been fun -- er, except if The Red Beast crashes the party & shows up in a backless, shoulderless, boobies-baring thing & starts swinging around a pole . . .  uh, maybe it's just as well Claire nixed the stripper pole idea.

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11 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nick said Victor eats men like Dumas for breakfast. Yeah, we'll see about that, Nicholas. Your daddy already seems a tad rattled to me.

Ha! Old Man Saggy Balls eats Cream.of Wheat for breakfast, then he mumbles random threats to anyone passing by, wipes some gruel off his chin, and stumbles off to rant at the walls of his mansion. You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see him in his own dungeon being fed only brussel sprouts. 

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10 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Presuming Summer is his mother, that makes Nick his grandfather and Phyllis his grandmother. Victoria is his aunt.

And that's why I was the one screaming WTF when he was all up about getting a perfect gift for great-granny.  SUMMER IS NOT HIS MOTHER.  Can't be said enough. There is no blood relationship between this kid and any Newman*. And I'm surprised Viktor is allowing him to be considered a Newman at all when he hates the Abbotts so much. #freetara

*I realize that at one time Diane signed ownership/parent's rights of Kyle to Viktor, but the old Vampire doesn't remember that and it is not a blood relationship.

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Well thank goodness someone validated Diane’s Abbot home makeover, though how Traci was able to lavish that much effusive praise on her without wearing hip waders is a mystery. Hopefully Diane will never again disappear into her own navel over being considered a true Abbot. Ashley has yet to arrive, so I suppose we can all bury that hope in the backyard.

How did this party planner rise to his lofty status when he can’t read a room and thinks the Newmans would go for stripper poles and emblazoning Nikki’s lemon-sucking, snooty expression on shawls? Kyle was completely smarmy greeting Party Pietro and a total fucking idiot complimenting Claire after the dude left. Yes, Claire is a strong, fierce, independent woman for… telling a party planner her vision. Whoa. Bold, revolutionary and probably something that should have been done via phone or email prior to the face to face. I think the writers wanted to be funny but couldn’t transcend “herp derp stripper poles.”

Nick, your father doesn’t eat breakfast. Victor drains the life force of his thralls upon the rising of the sun as foretold by the Necronomicon. Sorry, that’s a book. Those are your version of Victor’s silver crucifix and garlic cloves; encountering one causes your cheeks to slam shut, trapping your Donkey Kong thong in an eternal wedgie. Btw, don’t be snarky with Jack. Show him some goddamn respect for once in your horndog life.

You guys, I was wrong about Nikki. She is the very soul of compassion, extracting a promise from Victor to not destroy the Abbot family until after her birthday party. God, the sacrifice, the incredible loyalty to a friend… are you telling me no one has nominated this selfless woman for a Nobel Peace Prize? I need a moment alone with my emotions…

Speaking of Victor, while there are many ugly sides to his personality, one of the most repulsive facets is his misogyny. He has implied a few times now that Michael is whipped and made to quit by his wife. I know he also believes that Michael “defected” to Abbotland, but still, why even go there? Then this supreme chauvinist thinks he’s the best choice to run his women relatives’ love lives. I’m sure Victoria’s poorer romantic choices had nothing to do with being raised by an asshole. 

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21 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Nick, your father doesn’t eat breakfast. Victor drains the life force of his thralls upon the rising of the sun as foretold by the Necronomicon. Sorry, that’s a book. Those are your version of Victor’s silver crucifix and garlic cloves; encountering one causes your cheeks to slam shut, trapping your Donkey Kong thong in an eternal wedgie. Btw, don’t be snarky with Jack. Show him some goddamn respect for once in your horndog life.

Victor does like to chow down.

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Nothing tastes quite as good as the utter despair people feel when around him.

Nick's been looking especially oily these days.  Between the clothes that are a little too tight, the decayed brylcreem meltdown on his head and his apparent attempt to grow his hair till he looks like Amy, the man is a sight to behold.

Victor's Number One son, appearing for dooty.

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3 hours ago, MollyB said:

And that's why I was the one screaming WTF when he was all up about getting a perfect gift for great-granny.  SUMMER IS NOT HIS MOTHER.  Can't be said enough. There is no blood relationship between this kid and any Newman*. And I'm surprised Viktor is allowing him to be considered a Newman at all when he hates the Abbotts so much. #freetara

Let the choir sing "Amen!"

It's weird IMO how all of a sudden they have Harrison playing up the Newman side of his extended family. If the show wants to highlight characters who are biologically connected to both the Abbotts and the Newmans, they already have Katie via Victoria and Billy. (Maybe also Abby and Dominic via Dina and Victor, but Dina was only an Abbott by marriage.)

Summer supposedly adopting Harrison in Italy is probably illegal in both Italy and the US. Harrison was born in New York to two American citizens who are still alive and haven't ceded their parental rights. A bold lawyer could probably make a case that Summer kidnapped Harrison across international boundaries. It'd be a huge scandal.

I continue to think all the writers would have to do to "fix" this mess is have someone mention Tara died in prison. Or, she's legally severed her maternal ties to Harrison. Say Jack paid Tara off to get her out of Harrison's life, or Victor had her killed. Mox nix as long as it closes the plot hole.

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Hey Daniel, as long as you’re having warm & fuzzy convos w/Mommie Dearest — can ya tell her to cover the fuck up?  Please?  Daniel pressing his head to The Red Beast’s bare shoulder was really icky!

Ah Ash, ya disappointed me today!  I thought you’d kick the shit outta Diane for trashing the Abbott manse, but that didn’t happen.  So go away, Ash, and don’t come back till ya get a remotely interesting storyline.  No surprise she didn’t mention Abby or Dominic.  Abby?  Who dat?   See ya, Ash, won’t be missin’ ya . . .

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What is Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍’s plan to get past his outer office to get into his inner office?  How does she plan to even get into the building?  Oh, I forgot that Amanda will risk her job to get her an audience with Mr Dumas. 

Daniel made my day by laughing in Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍’s face when she told him her plan. 

Does anyone else see a parallel story line between Ashley and Mariah?  They both blame themselves for something that was really not in their control. Mariah with Ian and Ashley with Allen/Martin.  

Harrison is adorable!  He wants to have a family story but does he realize that he has a bio-mom. I still want Tara to return to change things up.  Maybe it would be Tara to break up Claire/Eve not Victor. You know, instead of getting Audra to break them up, it would have been a lot cheaper for Victor to bring Tara back to GC.  

I now have to add delusional to Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍’s name.  Unless Aristotle Dumas is Tucker or someone who already knows Manic Pathetic Delusional Phyllis🐍, she does not give off a fantastic first impression. She’s an animated face talker who will probably try to win over Aristotle Dumas with her boobies and fake tears.  

 

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Hey, it's Ashley. 

Precocious Harrison has no clue how much things like horses and rubies cost. I have feeling one day he's going to marry an Eastern European woman he met in a coin collectors chat group. Right after he wires her half his trust fund to a bank account in Nigeria.

Tell her, Daniel! Just like the last 47 times you told her. 🙄 (Cool cardigan shirt, BTW. Did you borrow it from Zende over on B&B?)

So Ashley only came back to GC to inform Jack she's returning to therapy in Paris. She could've sent Jack a text, or videocalled him. Geez. 

Poor Daniel. He had to listen to Phyllis brag about how she's going to run Chancellor after Aristotle Dumas snatches it from the Newmans. None of it had any basis in reality and he couldn't get through any of her manic delusions.

Guess Harrison is a fan of schmoopiness. I almost felt sorry for him having to watch Claire and Kyle lick each other's tonsils in the middle of Chancellor Park. Almost.

Daniel, your mommy was right on one point: you'll always be her son. It's a thankless job but someone's gotta do it. Unfortunately, the Fates picked you. 

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You know, I thought the show was being used to launch a backdoor pilot today. Imagine, if you will, a family sitcom somehow more drearily unfunny than Full House and more sickeningly sweet than a leak at the Great Treacle Reserve. Amazing, right? The main characters are a smarmy ass marmot coasting on his nepo baby status, tall hair and Schrodinger’s chin, his kid from his MILF hunter days and the virtuous nanny turned bed buddy. It was absolutely as classy as it sounds. Turns out it was just Kyle and Claire and Harrison AND that I don’t give the slightest of fucks what that kid buys his GiGi for her birthday. Holy shit, like actual screen time was wasted on this content.

Of course, this show is still reaping the rich bounty of Diane’s big two room makeover. What an emotional roller coaster that is. I wish they’d let us off the ride.  Ashley gave her stamp of approval and Diane still got all up in her feelings when Ashley asked to speak to Jack alone.

So… Phyllis. Why is she undulating and writhing and shimmying her boney maroney shoulders around with, you know, her son? Stupid Daniel asking her for details and specifics - lolol. Doesn’t he realize his mother has a PLAN and manic energy? That, plus her appalling narcissism and thirst for vengeance will carry Phyllis far. Hopefully to the moon. Btw, this show is teaching me so much about business, especially how easy it is to take, give, and run huge corporations. Maybe next week I’ll give the CEO chair at some aerospace company a spin just to see what it’s like. 

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43 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

son? Stupid Daniel asking her for details and specifics - lolol. Doesn’t he realize his mother has a PLAN and manic energy? That, plus her appalling narcissism and thirst for vengeance will carry Phyllis far. Hopefully to the moon. Btw

I hear Elon is planning a flight to Mars. Can we book Phyllis on the maiden voyage? One way please. 

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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Precocious Harrison has no clue how much things like horses and rubies cost. I have feeling one day he's going to marry to an Eastern European woman he met in a coin collectors chat group. Right after he wires her half his trust fund to a bank account in Nigeria.

Guess Harrison is a fan of schmoopiness. I almost felt sorry for him having to watch Claire and Kyle lick each other's tonsils in the middle of Chancellor Park. Almost.

Uch, I had to turn it off. This kid is so cheesy that it hurts to watch him. I get that sweet/tart thing going in the side of my cheeks every damn time he's on screen. If Beaver Cleaver and Johnny from the Rifleman had a love child it would be Harrison. Words that come to mind: sacchrine, tooth ache, cloying, twee.

@Joimiaroxeuthe bolded was genius!

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57 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Martin?  was he arrested or did skip town?

He was arrested; however, I can't recall any mention of him being indicted or Sharon and Phyllis expressing any concern about having to testify against him at a trial.

The new Abbott Mansion living room is done in the drabbest shade of purple imaginable and whenever some character says they love what Diane did with it they just come across as stupid.

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6 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Harrison is adorable!  He wants to have a family story but does he realize that he has a bio-mom. I still want Tara to return to change things up.  Maybe it would be Tara to break up Claire/Eve not Victor. You know, instead of getting Audra to break them up, it would have been a lot cheaper for Victor to bring Tara back to GC. 

It sure would make sense for Victor to bring Tara back. Or he could just find her doppelgänger or any blonde woman who always wears white to pretend she's Tara. Nobody remembers exactly what Tara looks like and she could say she escaped from prison and got plastic surgery in South America like many other excons in GC.

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On 5/29/2025 at 8:11 AM, NinjaPenguins said:

Well thank goodness someone validated Diane’s Abbot home makeover, though how Traci was able to lavish that much effusive praise on her without wearing hip waders is a mystery. Hopefully Diane will never again disappear into her own navel over being considered a true Abbot. Ashley has yet to arrive, so I suppose we can all bury that hope in the backyard.

Table for one here, but I thought the conversation between Diane and Traci came off sincere.  It had a beginning, middle and end and the characters actually said something meaningful to each other.  Mayhaps the actors wrote it themselves?  And Ashley's acceptance and convo with Jack seemed genuine, as well.  I got the feeling that the angst about whether grownass adults will like the change or not is over. =fingers crossed=

 

16 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

(Cool cardigan shirt, BTW. Did you borrow it from Zende over on B&B?)

I couldn't figure if it was a beach coverup (circa 1950 in the south of France) or something his granny knitted him for Christmas.  Do the actors pick their own clothes?  Guess he wants to show off his colorful ink.

 

13 hours ago, Js Nana said:

He was arrested; however, I can't recall any mention of him being indicted or Sharon and Phyllis expressing any concern about having to testify against him at a trial.

Not gonna be a trial because Show doesn't do that anymore.  And I presume Martin pled out given the tons of evidence against him.*  Although, Michael is out of a job and wouldn't it be fun if he was the defense if Martin was going the 'not guilty' route? (Not!)

*Food for thought:  if Martin was put in a mental facility for criminals, could it possibly be the one Ashley was in?  (Or someone in that facility relocating to the prison Martin is in to help him out?)  She kinda implied there were shenanigans involving Martin there.  Not that I want to see another prison story like Jordan/Ian again. 

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1 hour ago, MollyB said:

Table for one here, but I thought the conversation between Diane and Traci came off sincere.  It had a beginning, middle and end and the characters actually said something meaningful to each other.  Mayhaps the actors wrote it themselves?  And Ashley's acceptance and convo with Jack seemed genuine, as well.  I got the feeling that the angst about whether grownass adults will like the change or not is over. =fingers crossed=

I'll join you at that table.  I thought it was sincere, both from Traci and from Ashley.  No way would Ashley say she liked it if she didn't unless she had a new alter that was actually nice.  I'm more than ready for the house re-do drama to be over and for Diane's insecurities to be in the past and for a cessation in sniping at Diane from Ashley.  Diane, at least for now, is one of the good guys i the Abbott circle.

Now let's wait and see if Jack and Diane actually go on vacation.

 

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OMG, Nikki is a sparkly, gold-lame mermaid, with teased-up Bride of Frankenstein/Zombie-lady hair.  WTF is with these wardrobe peeps?  Where do they get inspiration for this over-the-top, tacky shit?  RuPaul’s Drag Race?

Damian is in a noticeably ill-fitting jacket.  His convo with Lils is boring as shit & these 2 are still generating zilcho sexual chemistry.

Vicks was thrilled with the party planner for NOT adding feathers to the party decor.  Guess she woulda fainted if he suggested stripper poles to her.  What a freakin’ priss you are, Vicks!  Everyone knows your mother was a stripper.  Big woo, get over yourself, hun.

Ash is in an “I give up & I’m ready go back to the loony bin” blah black dress.  But she’s got red skeletons hanging from her ears.  WTF with this, Ash?  A new alter is dressing ya?

Lauren is shockingly NOT in some one-shoulder leopard-print thing.  She’s in a bright red politician-lady pantsuit.  Er, huh?  Abby’s dress is short, tight, sparkly & really ugly.  Vicks’ dress is also really ugly with splotches all over that looks like she’s covered with beetles.  Ick.

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I don't mind Nikki's dress, it is meant to show off her weight loss and it certainly does that.  The hair though, when will they stop with the shellac, thinking it's so chic? She really looks better with a softer look.  And please, give her a more flattering lipstick.  That's my totally superficial comment for today.

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Nick the dick looks like a greaseball shmuck in his shiny leather jacket.  But then again, he always looks like that lately — even w/o the leather jacket.  He wants to borrow the Ferrari?  Uh, OK, is he 50 or a teen?  Yet another scene that gives me the icks.  Ugh, this show now — YEESH!

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1 hour ago, MollyB said:

Table for one here, but I thought the conversation between Diane and Traci came off sincere.

I really liked their conversation about Martin and the trauma Traci experienced. Jack talking to Ashley was solid as well, and you can see the contrast between how the two major families relate to one another. The Newmans are so dysfunctional, and watching the Abbotts treat each other with respect and caring is refreshing. They’re not perfect, but I’d rather watch Jack, Ashley and Traci have meaningful conversations than watch Victor berating his kids for perceived disobedience.

My issue with Diane and Traci was solely the excessive discussion about the renovation. Good lawd, show, let that shit go. 

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Oh my God, such an awkward episode today…. Where to begin?

….strange that Claire, who has made this party her entire focus, was nowhere to be seen… I have expected to see a final shot of her being held captive by Jordan !

Nicholas looked awful and he should have been wearing at least a sport jacket and oh my God does he have a big mouth….and how immature was he acting with that car key?  And  if that wonderful gift was from him and his sister, why wasn’t his sister with him when he gave it to Nikki?
oh, that’s right Victoria was playing Lady of the manor since Claire wasn’t around!

….and everybody receiving those silly invitations from Dumas and now we have to wait another two weeks until Friday, June 13?!

The only one whose dress I liked was Nikki, but that hairdo really has to go.

I thought Victoria looked like a drowned rat from head to toe and Abby had on a dress that could double as a nightgown…. Diane and Ashley looked too somber and I sort of missed Lauren‘s one shoulder get up L O L.

…..what a dull end to the week.

not really a Damien lover, but the charmless Lily makes Damien look interesting if that’s possible !

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8 hours ago, MollyB said:

(Cool cardigan shirt, BTW. Did you borrow it from Zende over on B&B?)

I thought he looked like he was going to his Friday nite bowling league.

 

6 hours ago, bayviewbubba said:

The hair though, when will they stop with the shellac, thinking it's so ch

I Thought it was a Mohawk

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6 hours ago, bayviewbubba said:

he hair though, when will they stop with the shellac, thinking it's so chic

n/m

 

8 hours ago, MollyB said:

Food for thought:  if Martin was put in a mental facility for criminals, could it possibly be the one Ashley was in?  (Or someone in that facility relocating to the prison Martin is in to help him out?)  She kinda implied there were shenanigans involving Martin there.  Not that I want to see another prison story like Jordan/Ian again. 

Brilliant.  I never even thought of that.

 

 

8 hours ago, MollyB said:

Table for one here, but I thought the conversation between Diane and Traci came off sincere.  It had a beginning, middle and end and the characters actually said something meaningful to each other.

I think when Diane did the hiemlock on Ashey things started to coo down.

 

7 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Vicks was thrilled with the party planner for NOT adding feathers to the party decor

In MHO the place looked kinda trashy with all those giant red flowers.

But I thought the dress was really gorgeous. Something I could have worn all those milkshakes ago`

 

I thought Daniel's shirt looked like he  was in a bowling league.Go away Daimen, you are starting to anoy  me.

MAKE IT TUCKER! NAKE IT TUCKER MAKE IT TUCKER!

hmm. June, Friday the 13?????

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2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

He wants to borrow the Ferrari?  Uh, OK, is he 50 or a teen?

I’m 65 and would trip him on the way out the door for the chance to even SIT in a Ferrari 🤣

Well we had a Cane mention today so Dumas is probably hm. 🙄 or maybe it’s Aria. They SORASed her and she’s getting back for not having any air time as a baby. Wait, I know who Dumas is: Keely the dog! Remember the one that farm boy had? I don’t remember the character name but Victoria hooked up with him for a while.

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26 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I’m 65 and would trip him on the way out the door for the chance to even SIT in a Ferrari 🤣

Me too!  But that convo was so weird & contrived.  He’s the 50 year old son of a billionaire & can buy his own Ferrari, but wants to borrow his Mommie’s new one?  Such dumb, badly written shit.

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I'm with Lily. The Newmans inviting her to Nikki's party, after everything they pulled on her in order to snatch Chancellor, was unbelievable. Apparently with them, bygones only go one way. 

Nikki's next birthday present from Victor was a classic Ferrari. Okay then, not a bad gift. It should be fun to drive once Nikki gets the hang of a manual transmission.

Here we go. The movers and shakers of GC are being summoned by Aristotle Dumas to his summer home the south of France. Gotta admire his calculated arrogance. 

5 hours ago, MollyB said:

I got the feeling that the angst about whether grownass adults will like the change or not is over. =fingers crossed=

One would hope. The only family members who haven't weighed in on the Abbott manse renovation are Allie and Theo. Allie's too busy dating fellow expat Noah in London. Theo's too busy hiding from Ashley and Allie, both of whom also have apartments in Paris.

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Halfway through the episode and still no sighting of Claire. Is she planning to make a grand entrance, lol? Kind of rude for Claire to arrive after the guest of honor though, especially since she was supposed to be co-hosting the bash.

When he and Abby were pregaming at Society, Devon made it sound like Lily and Damian are dating. Where was he getting that from? Damian has been working Lily, and she thinks she's using Damian as a shield against Dumas. They're not even trying to be a romantic couple.

Victor seemed lowkey puzzled about that invite from Dumas. So much for TGVN being ten chess moves ahead of everyone, huh?

11 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Damian is in a noticeably ill-fitting jacket.

Plus he's worn it before. I know Damian's only a temporary character but the show rarely uses the same item of clothing more than once. <shrugs>

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So not only was Claire not at the party before Nikki, Victoria gave the toast before Claire even arrived! But never fear, she shows up in Monday’s episode wearing a black strapless dress with a red rose the size of GC sticking out from the front of it. The more I think about Ashleys dress the more it looks like something from the late 1960s. All she needed to complete the outfit were go go boots 🤣

Did Nick not get the memo that it was formal attire? Could he not be bothered to even wear a button down shirt? Showing up in a Polo shirt was not cool. 

did Lily and Cane get married in Paris or Nice? 

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Oy, that was a rather pointed conversation between Lily and Damian about her ex-husband Cane. Maybe the spumors are true about Cane being Aristotle Dumas. Bleh. However, I wouldn't mind if Mattie and Charlie Ashby returned GC.

Also: Cane has a third kid, from when he got another woman pregnant via a drunken ONS. He was still married to Lily. I wonder if the boy also lives in Nice? Sam should be about eight years old unless he's been SORASed. 

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

The Newmans are so dysfunctional, and watching the Abbotts treat each other with respect and caring is refreshing. They’re not perfect, but I’d rather watch Jack, Ashley and Traci have meaningful conversations than watch Victor berating his kids for perceived disobedience.

Perhaps that's another reason why Victor loses his mind over the Abbotts. Jack has stepped up into the role of the Abbott family patriarch and they all love and respect him. The Newmans are mostly scared of what Victor will do if they don't show total loyalty to him and avoid openly defying his "family first" rules. I bet Jack sleeps a lot better at night than Victor does.

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My takes on the party clothes:

Victoria's white and black polka-dotted dress. Ehh, I wasn't really getting a nighttime event vibe from it.

WTF did Abby have on? It looked to me like someone put sparkles on a slip and then glued it to a merry widow corset. 

Diane's cold-shoulder dress seemed familiar. Is she borrowing clothes from Phyllis now? 😏 Kinda heavy fabric for the season too. 

I didn't hate Nikki's gold lamé mermaid gown but her hairdo? Oh honey, no. 

Whoa, Ashley's cape dress. Très avant-garde. Ash doesn't quite have the legs for a mid-thigh hemline though, IMO. 

Nick. He looked like a single dad going for beers and crunchy onion rings at the GC Mall Applebee's, not to his mommy's elegant party. 

I liked Lauren's neon red three-piece suit. A rather conservative look for her compared to the skin-baring outfits she usually wears.

Yikes, Sharon could've been moonlighting as a flight attendant from Bizarro World Airlines. Hope she hasn't gone off her meds. 

I got nuthin' on Esther's dress. 

It appeared Pietro's color scheme for the event was red, white, and black/gray. But Claire forgot to tell Nikki. 

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Alan Sarapa's Soap Box column was mainly about GH but he did have this one line about Y&R......

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*If you turn on Y&R, you are just going to see people eating at restaurants and discussions about Aristotle Dumas. Cleaning the fridge might be a better use of your time.

 

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

did Lily and Cane get married in Paris or Nice?

They got married at a castle in the south of France.  

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