Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Kimboweena]

3 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Would luv it if Ash comes back, plops herself down on the fugly pink sofa & screeches at Diane

Started reading this and totally thought you were going somewhere else with it...

Edited May 23 by Kimboweena
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[Js Nana]

Loved the scene from the next week segment on today's show where Traci stares at the newly redecorated living room and say's "I'm speechless."

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[One Tough Cookie]

@MollyB I hope you are feeling better soon.  Bronchitis is a bitch.  I had it about a year ago and coughed for 7 minutes straight.  

Saw about 5 minutes today because my husband and I wanted to catch up on Gutfeld, and I went out for a manicure {priorities, girls, priorities[}.   And since I do only one thing in a  the day, I caught only the first 5 minutes where Mikey was at Victor's  looking VERY uncomfortable.   I' catch up  tonite before I go to bed, instead of a pill because I know the show will work just as well.

[Js Nana]

21 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

I vote for Tucker being Aristotle

I think Aristotle is going to be either a completely new character with no GC background whatsoever, or he's going to be someone from, say, 10 or more years ago, Earth time, which is about 5 years in soap time.

[Joimiaroxeu]

If Diane and Jack' grand tour of Europe ends in Paris, I wonder if they'll visit Jack's half-brother, Theo? Tee hee, I crack myself up sometimes.

Oy, Nikki and Lauren's battle of the nose jobs. I'm gonna give the win to Lauren, by a nose. 😉

Not sure why Nikki kept acting like Victor invented the idea of a locket with a sentimental photo in it. Lauren was a good friend to humor Nikki about it.

7 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Well, if I walked into a room and saw my SO banging someone else I might be hostile

Right? Abby was lucky Amanda treated her as well as she did. A different kind of woman would've been taking off her earrings and smearing Vaseline on her face. And then would've proceeded to give Abby a long overdue beatdown.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Wait, what? Diane was just at home with Jack discussing the itinerary for their trip. Why did she then need to make a special trip back to Jabot to leave a copy of the itinerary on Jack's desk? She could've emailed it. So stupid.

I wish Kyle could have one conversation with Diane or Jack that isn't about Victor. Kyle, you will never be just like Victor, even on your best day. Your worst one either. Hush.

5 hours ago, MollyB said:

Why care about how grown people who do not live in it feel about a much-needed redecorating job on a house?

The Abbott manse belongs to John Abbott's kids, even the ones who don't live there. Diane is only an Abbott by marriage and she probably wouldn't even be that if John was still alive. I think she had an incredible amount of nerve presuming to redecorate without getting the input of any of John's heirs. Jack has to act like he approves because he's Diane's doting husband, but IMO his siblings don't have to follow his lead.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Kyle told Diane he's got Audra handled. Right. He has no idea what Audra's really up to. Audra's coming at Kyle sideways and he better hope Claire steps in.

I thought Michael was totally on point reminding Victor he has a wife and son who are his family. Victor had no real explanation why he's to be considered more important to Michael than Lauren and Fen.

Sure, Victor. You say family is everything but you treat Abby like an afterthought. And you probably couldn't pick her son Dominic out of a lineup of pre-schoolers. "Hypocrite" should be your middle name.

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Oh Mikey, you silly thing, don’t ya know ya can never leave the Mob or the Godfather or Vic?

Yep. The role of consigliere is a lifetime position. Generally their life would end before the job did because they know too much dirt about their client. So would Victor do something to shorten Michael's life or is Aristotle Dumas going to make everyone circle the wagons?

[lgprimes]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Not sure why Nikki kept acting like Victor invented the idea of a locket with a sentimental photo in it. Lauren was a good friend to humor Nikki about it.

Speaking of that locket, what is Katie, chopped liver?

 Apparently she’s the “Abby” of the next generation.

Edited May 24 by lgprimes
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[Waldo13]

Today is the day that we have more than enough proof that Kyle is an absolute spoiled weeny. Claire/Eve is much better off without him.  Claire/Eve would be much better off revisiting Holden and drinking Vespers. 

Why is Jack chiming in to a personal conversation. Stay in your lane Jack.  

Michael cannot and will not leave Victor because he seems to be a man that will go stir crazy in retirement and he thrives on Victor’s chaos 

 

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wait, what? Diane was just at home with Jack discussing the itinerary for their trip. Why did she then need to make a special trip back to Jabot to leave a copy of the itinerary on Jack's desk?

Maybe I just imagined it, but it seemed to me like one minute Diane is at home with Jack and the next she's walking into his office at Jabot.

[MsMalin]

3 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

since I do only one thing in a  the day, I

You're speaking my language girl!  And that 1 thing a day takes endless planning before, and a calming down period afterwards.

[Js Nana]

EB has been quoted as saying that he will never retire, I suspect, however, that Y&R is, in a manner of speaking, quietly retiring him so that his scenes will be more-and-more set in the Newman mansion with Victor seated in his red leather throne issuing "executive orders" for others to carry out.

[slayer3]

On 5/17/2025 at 6:34 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

I'm gonna guess "only Black Woman on canvas" is referring to skin tone because there's also Lily and Amy. (However, IRL CK considers herself multiracial/multiethnic, not Black.)

OMG, I'd be beyond stunned if they killed off Amanda. Y&R is already looking bad compared to Beyond the Gates due to the relatively poor way they're still handling Black characters. Having Amanda die would definitely not help. (And showing Neil's photo and mentioning his old history at every random opportunity ain't enough either, JG.)

IMO it'll be telling which legacy Newman or Abbott characters Amanda interacts with and which ones she doesn't.

I don't think Amy is a full cast member, and I was under the impression CK was South Asian and not Black at all, that was a bone of contention for years I believe. She is via the one drop rule but her parents are not Black, likely her one of her grandparents or great grandparents is.  VR and KstJ (although half black themselves) were playing full black as was SM so I expect their daughter to be played by a Black or at the very least half-black actress. I will always miss Davetta Sherwood for many many reasons, the least of which is she was a Black Actress playing a Black character and the most of which is she was very clearly Drucilla's daughter and IMO a much more dynamic actress.

On 5/17/2025 at 8:35 PM, Js Nana said:

If you're talking about Neil Winters, that's because the much beloved Kristof St. John died and the decision was made to not replace him in the role - it would have been like if EB died and they brought in another actor to play Victor.

No Rey, Keemo and I think he wrote off one other. Miles maybe, but he pulled Keemo out of the woodwork to kill him off off-camera then he killed off Rey off camera within a month of each other I believe. I'm very familiar with Kristoff St John, I grew up with him and Shemar Moore, met Shemar too.

 

And just because it needs saying again and again, god, Claire is an idiot. It's weird because it almost feels like she is mentally stilted like when she talks to Kyle it feels like he's talking to a 16yr or or even 12yr old in her simplicity. It's really really weird. Like the idea of throwing a party to get Victor to accept them is so junior high or even elementary it's deranged. Like what is going on, does she have multiple personality disorder or something? What is the reason for this feebleness?

Edited May 24 by slayer3

[Joimiaroxeu]

20 minutes ago, slayer3 said:

I don't think Amy is a full cast member, and I was under the impression CK was South Asian and not Black at all, that was a bone of contention for years I believe. She is via the one drop rule but her parents are not Black, likely her one of her grandparents or great grandparents is.  VR and KstJ (although half black themselves) were playing full black as was SM so I expect their daughter to be played by a Black or at the very least half-black actress. I will always miss Davetta Sherwood for many many reasons, the least of which is she was a Black Actress playing a Black character and the most of which is she was very clearly Drucilla's daughter and IMO a much more dynamic actress.

The point I replied to referred to Amanda, not the actress who plays her. On Y&R, Amanda, Lily, and Amy are considered Black. So, I don't see Amanda as the "only Black woman on canvas" unless that means something other than the "only Black woman currently appearing as a character on Y&R."

Per Christel Khalil's page on Wikipedia:

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Khalil was born in Los Angeles, California, to a mother of Native American, African American, and European descent and a Pakistani father. Khalil has stated she identifies as mixed race. She has three older brothers and a younger paternal half-sister. In January 2017, in the wake of President Donald Trump's signing of Executive Order 13769, Khalil revealed that her father is an immigrant from his native country of Pakistan.

I agree on having a person who doesn't consider themselves Black playing a character who has two Black parents and four Black grandparents. It's like some weird type of cultural appropriation. CK has been controversial about the issue on several fronts, particularly her alleged refusal to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man. Unless CK's position on that has changed, Lily and Damian will not be a couple.

[NinjaPenguins]

I’m never quite prepared for Fuck Off Fridays, but here we are.

Fuck off, Victor, you antiquated crybaby. Perhaps Michael has now truly learned what family means to you and realized how ugly and dark that meaning is. I thought Victor might hold his breath until he turned blue or Michael gave in, but then I remembered vampires don’t need air. Michael can find a better father figure if he still needs one. A friggin’ tree in Chancellor Park would provide a healthier relationship.

Fuck off three quarters of the way, Kyle. I deducted a quarter because at least he stopped with the schmoopy and was relatively honest about what a dick he is. He should be pissed about Claire expecting him to make nice with Victor. Kyle needs to sit her ass down and give her the whole list of crimes Victor committed against the Abbotts. A party ain’t gonna fix that shit. He’s still a sniveling box of hair and I almost gagged when he read that dumb card from Claire and got that dumb smile on his face.

Nikki, put your nose down and fuck off. What a horrible friend. She really expected Lauren to convince Michael to keep playing Victor’s human shield. Holy shit. Here’s an idea: the whole family stops enabling his toxic behavior, cutting him off if necessary. Or maybe Victor will just have to go to jail when Michael isn’t there to throw himself on the grenade next time. Nikki then tried to use her other so-called good friend as a bargaining chip, even after Jack said he’d be fine.

Also, that stupid locket gets a firm fashion fuck off. I guess Katie doesn’t rate? And it’s not exactly cool to leave Summer and Faith out. I mean, I know they’re going for the multiple generations of Newman women thing, blah blah, but it feels like Claire is all that matters to that dysfunctional family.

[boes]

10 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Nikki, put your nose down and fuck off. What a horrible friend. She really expected Lauren to convince Michael to keep playing Victor’s human shield.

The depth of her and Victor's entitlement still manages to astound, doesn't it?  Bad enough that she had the gall to have Lauren be her unpaid backup at Newman when she was recovering, instead of one of the many minions that already work there, but now she expects Lauren to convince Michael to continue to be Victor's mudguard because neither she or any of her gruesome offspring have the courage to tell the old horror "NO"?

Victor's story began at that orphanage, no reason why it can't conclude there.  Let's see if there's someone out there looking to complete their family by adopting an aged orphan from the Land Time Forgot?

You can tell Claire lead a reclusive life up till now if her idea of a party involves Victor just as much as you can tell she's never dated if her first crush is on a semi-sentient hairdo.

[MollyB]

15 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Why is Jack chiming in to a personal conversation.

As Nikki so emotionally pointed out, when Viktor goes off the rails it will be directed at Jack and Jabot.*  All because of what Jack did to Nikki that night of drug and alcohol fueled debauchery. (That also saved Nikki's life, but, whatever.)  What I don't get is, if everyone knows that Viktor is a terror without a handler to keep him in line or get him out of legal scrapes, why they just keep letting him do it.  It's as if he's a five year old that loves candy and they give him as much as he can stuff in his chubby cheeks and then wonder why he's bouncing off the walls. Stop enabling him.

*which is a really dumbfcuk excuse to keep Michael in a job he hates.  Why do Michael and Lauren have to suffer to make Viktor happy?

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

The Abbott manse belongs to John Abbott's kids, even the ones who don't live there. Diane is only an Abbott by marriage

But she also has to live there.  It's not as if she razed the place and rebuilt or destroyed any of the memorabilia.  She ran it by everyone and they could have stopped her, I guess.  My point is things change and the grown 'kids' should be able to roll with that.  If Diane has gone to Paris when Ash was in treatment and completely re-done her apartment, then I'd say that was over the line.

 

[surfgirl]

14 hours ago, slayer3 said:

And just because it needs saying again and again, god, Claire is an idiot. It's weird because it almost feels like she is mentally stilted like when she talks to Kyle it feels like he's talking to a 16yr or or even 12yr old in her simplicity. It's really really weird. Like the idea of throwing a party to get Victor to accept them is so junior high or even elementary it's deranged. Like what is going on, does she have multiple personality disorder or something? What is the reason for this feebleness?

Such a great and on point analysis of Cleve. I still hold out hope that she's long conning the Newman clan. That? Would make sitting through all her simpering bullshit finally worthwhile.

Let's talk about Audra shall we? She loves, loves, loves touting herself as the most astute bidness woman in bidnessville, and yet, all we have seen is an entitled call girl who manages to get men with money to finance her in bidness schemes that never seem to last more than a month tops. So yeah, not exactly a protoge of Fucker McCall is she?

Is it wrong of me to be positively gleeful about the thought of Pomp getting screwed by Audra and then having Cleve see what a scumbag he really is AND dumping his stank ass? That? Would also make watching this shit worthwhile, finally.

Edited May 24 by surfgirl

[lgprimes]

On 5/21/2025 at 5:28 PM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Hmm…wondering if Aunt Mamie is Alexander Dumas……

I’m thinking it has to be Malcolm. What other man is still alive and gives a crap about the Winters family? 

oh no! I just remembered Caine. Oh dear god no, please no. Unless it’s a recast.

On 5/24/2025 at 1:34 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

CK has been controversial about the issue on several fronts, particularly her alleged refusal to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man

Wow! If this is true it’s AWFUL. And awful that the show would let any actor make such a demand. I’ve always been annoyed that allegedly EB’s contract says Victor never loses, which is storyline homicide, but this would be magnitudes worse.

Edited May 25 by lgprimes
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[Js Nana]

23 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

CK has been controversial about the issue on several fronts, particularly her alleged refusal to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man. Unless CK's position on that has changed, Lily and Damian will not be a couple.

These are baseless rumors and, to speak frankly, it angers me that they are being promulgated on this site.

[ScoobieDoobs]

23 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

The point I replied to referred to Amanda, not the actress who plays her. On Y&R, Amanda, Lily, and Amy are considered Black. So, I don't see Amanda as the "only Black woman on canvas" unless that means something other than the "only Black woman currently appearing as a character on Y&R."

Per Christel Khalil's page on Wikipedia:

I agree on having a person who doesn't consider themselves Black playing a character who has two Black parents and four Black grandparents. It's like some weird type of cultural appropriation. CK has been controversial about the issue on several fronts, particularly her alleged refusal to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man. Unless CK's position on that has changed, Lily and Damian will not be a couple.

Sheesh, a lot to unpack there.  I knew none of this, but has there been any objection to CK or Lils in this regard?  That is, about her ancestry -- or who she pairs up with romantically?  Doesn't seem like there has been any.  Honestly, I'm so indifferent to CK & Lils, haven't even noticed this, if true.

Now, just as Show is pushing hard to make Pomp & Claire happen (ugh, they really are painful to watch, especially kissing), it seems like Damian & Lils are being propped up as the next couple to hook up.  He's certainly expressed his interest in her. 

So does Lils have ANY interest in Damian?  Who can tell?  She's such an icicle lately, she might as well be a nun or live inside a freezer.  Even when she tries to flirt, it falls flat & she seems as charmless & hostile as little creep Devon.  Actually, the whole Winters bunch is pretty charmless.  Why Damian wants to get involved with them is suspicious.  In any case, Damian hasn't even tried to kiss her on the cheek, let alone anything else.  These 2 have as much sexual heat/chemistry as Will & Grace.

Uh, wasn't there a time when soaps had really great couples that had terrific chemistry?  Not this show, and it sure as shit ain't now.

[SweePea59]

8 hours ago, lgprimes said:

I’m thinking it has to be Malcolm. What other man is still alive and gives a crap about the Winters family? 

Not even the real Malcolm, Shemar, could save this story line. What would they do, bring him back to sit in Society, sit in the Jazz Lounge, and sit on Little Nate's couch, all the while talking about an older-than-dirt senile vampire? Highly unlikely SM would come back to do that. There's always the possibility of a bad recast, but I would hope that they would realize the character is an illogical choice for Dumbass.

[Joimiaroxeu]

9 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Sheesh, a lot to unpack there.  I knew none of this, but has there been any objection to CK or Lils in this regard?  That is, about her ancestry -- or who she pairs up with romantically?  Doesn't seem like there has been any.  Honestly, I'm so indifferent to CK & Lils, haven't even noticed this, if true.

Objection might not be the way I'd term it but there has been discussion about it in various corners of the soap-related interwebs going back to when CK first arrived to play Lily. For example, her version of Lily talked like a Valley girl. Lily spent most of her formative years living in Europe with Dru and never lived in CA. Her talking like a Valley girl made no sense. She probably would've spoken like the people she was related to or who she socialized with , i.e., Neil, Dru, Olivia, and Nate Sr., or Nate Jr, Colleen, Daniel, and Kevin.

It may not still be the case but at the heyday of Dru, Neil, Olivia, and Nate Sr., a huge fan base of Y&R was Black women. They were largely the ones who had issues with Lily's characterization. Until Beyond the Gates debuted*, Lily was one of the few Black women regularly appearing on a broadcast daytime soap.

So, how Lily was and is now depicted was/is important to the people who care about the representation of Black women on soaps. If the person portraying Lily doesn't even consider themselves Black (allegedly), then that's a problem for some of the audience because it's in the neighborhood of cultural appropriation.

*When GH, B&B, and Y&R were the only soaps left on broadcast TV. DAYS had moved to subscription-only.

[Joimiaroxeu]

10 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Now, just as Show is pushing hard to make Pomp & Claire happen (ugh, they really are painful to watch, especially kissing), it seems like Damian & Lils are being propped up as the next couple to hook up.  He's certainly expressed his interest in her. 

So does Lils have ANY interest in Damian?  Who can tell?  She's such an icicle lately, she might as well be a nun or live inside a freezer.  Even when she tries to flirt, it falls flat & she seems as charmless & hostile as little creep Devon.  Actually, the whole Winters bunch is pretty charmless.  Why Damian wants to get involved with them is suspicious.  In any case, Damian hasn't even tried to kiss her on the cheek, let alone anything else.  These 2 have as much sexual heat/chemistry as Will & Grace.

Yeah, this thing with Damian kind of bends back on itself. Seems to me Damian is at least trying to give Lily the impression he's interested in her, hence his using the dinner date as the price for telling her more about Aristotle Dumas. But then Damian proceeded to deny knowing much of anything about Dumas so Lily sort of got played. Meanwhile, I don't think Lily is looking at Damian as a potential romance at all. She just thinks she can use his interest in her to get more info to protect Winters Inc. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

10 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Uh, wasn't there a time when soaps had really great couples that had terrific chemistry?  Not this show, and it sure as shit ain't now.

I dunno, I think Y&R has had some great couples. I thought Phyllis & Jack were hot back in the day, and so were Lily & Billy. The Shick and Phick fan bases are still battling on certain soap forums for superiority, lol. Lauren & Michael have been solid for a long time. And of course there's Nikki & Victor. Abby & Devon, I'd put in the same category as Niktor: it's just one of those things the audience has to tolerate if not accept. Right now I'm liking Sally & Billy though that pairing is probably running on vapors.

[lilmarysunshine]

16 hours ago, Js Nana said:

These are baseless rumors and, to speak frankly, it angers me that they are being promulgated on this site.

That is a heavy charge to make against CK. Lily has always been portrayed as part of a Black family and it seems they are setting her up with Damian, anyway. Part of the problem with her and romantic interests is she has been related to the Black guys in the show. I would be shocked if she demanded that.

[Js Nana]

On 5/22/2025 at 7:54 PM, Js Nana said:

when he's actually a major doofus who thinks he's smart.

I'm sure the writers intend the character to come across with a certain amount of pathos, but virtually no one who watches the show feels any sympathy for the character as he's written and as he's played.

[Joimiaroxeu]

39 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

That is a heavy charge to make against CK. Lily has always been portrayed as part of a Black family and it seems they are setting her up with Damian, anyway. Part of the problem with her and romantic interests is she has been related to the Black guys in the show. I would be shocked if she demanded that.

Lily wasn't related to Damon Porter or Tyler Michaelson. Damon was a bit older than her but then so was Cane. She and Tyler were varying degrees of flirting frenemies and weren't romantically involved. (Plus she was still married to Cane.) Right now I think Lily and Damian are following the frenemies path. I'm prepared to be shocked if they actually become a couple.

It's easy to google Hollywood actors who appear to be one race or ethnicity but are actually another or are bi/multiracial. They typically get put in the roles Hollywood thinks they can get away with without public blowback, or in roles of the race they most appear to be. In the US the so-called "one-drop rule" may not be legal but it's still used for Black characters and actors in Hollywood.

[lilmarysunshine]

Well … we had a President who is half-African, half-White raised by a white mother and grandparents in Hawaii and, for a part, even Indonesia and we all call him “Black.” I am not sure there is a one-size-fits all rule. FWIW, I have always thought she was part Pakistani (hence Khalil) and at least part Black going way back to interviews with soap magazines when she was very young. I cannot imagine that a soap actress in 2025 would get away with demanding to never have a Black romantic partner. She is not that powerful.  

And speaking of race and ethnicities - I see people referring to Audra as Latina. I know the actress is Mexican but is the character with the name Audra Charles? Maybe I missed her referencing that. 

 

 

[One Tough Cookie]

On 5/23/2025 at 7:40 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

I thought Michael was totally on point reminding Victor he has a wife and son who are his family. Victor had no real explanation why he's to be considered more important to Michael than Lauren and Fen.

I'm thinking Mikey might cave and go back to Victor, thus setting up a story about Lauren and Michael fighting. Aren't they do for some trouble at sometime? They's been on the back burned for a while.

Edited May 25 by One Tough Cookie

[One Tough Cookie]

34 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

see people referring to Audra as Latina. I know the actress is Mexican but is the character with the name Audra Charles? Maybe I missed her referencing that. 

i thought she was Jewish.

[Joimiaroxeu]

24 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I'm thinking Mikey might cave and go back to Victor, thus setting up a story about Lauren and Michael fighting. Aren't they do for some trouble at sometime? They's been on the back burned for a while.

Yeah, I agree. When Aristotle Dumas shows up Michael will likely skedaddle back to his "father figure" Victor to protect him from the big bad wolf. They've already assumed Dumas is going after Chancellor it must be protected at all costs! Sure.

[lilmarysunshine]

31 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

i thought she was Jewish.

IMDB claims half-Mexican, half-Jewish? 

She only talks about moving from Mexico when she was 8 here. 

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/icymi-zuleyka-silver-interview/

[Js Nana]

38 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

i thought she was Jewish.

. . . and?

[Joimiaroxeu]

52 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Well … we had a President who is half-African, half-White raised by a white mother and grandparents in Hawaii and, for a part, even Indonesia and we all call him “Black.”

He accepted being publicly identified as African American primarily for reasons which can't be discussed here. In the US he would tend to be called Black because he looks some degree of Black. Also, his mother publicly identifies as White but she has an ancestor who was enslaved Black man. 

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I cannot imagine that a soap actress in 2025 would get away with demanding to never have a Black romantic partner. She is not that powerful.  

I've never used the word "demand" but note that Lily has yet not had any Black romantic partners: Kevin Fisher; Daniel Romalotti; Cane Ashby; Billy Abbott; and Joe Clark. And in a fantasy sequence she was Nick's gangster moll. Someone seems to have been making that decision for the character of Lily, over several producer and writer tenures. I have no doubt CK was part of the decision.

[Js Nana]

5 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

IMDB claims half-Mexican, half-Jewish? 

So? - believe it or not, the US is not the only one of the three countries in North America that people from afar decided to move to.

[Js Nana]

7 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I've never used the word "demand" but note that Lily has yet not had any Black romantic partners

No, as per the following, you did reference allegations that CK had refused to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man:

On 5/24/2025 at 1:34 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

CK has been controversial about the issue on several fronts, particularly her alleged refusal to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man.

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

And speaking of race and ethnicities - I see people referring to Audra as Latina. I know the actress is Mexican but is the character with the name Audra Charles? Maybe I missed her referencing that. 

I think people call Zuleyka Silver Latina because of her looks and maybe because they also know she's from Mexico. She apparently recognizes both her Latino and Jewish heritages. On the show it's been iffy whether Audra is Latina.  There was at least onr scene I recall where Tucker was drinking with Audra and he said, "salud" which is like the Spanish version of "cheers."

Also, plenty of people of Latino/Hispanic heritage don't have Latino/Hispanic last names due to marriage, adoption, or just chosing to use a more generic last name. Similarly, not all people with Latino/Hispanic last names are of that heritage, again due to marriage, adoption, or choice.

[One Tough Cookie]

14 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

. . . and?

?  E eryone is speculating, so am I

[lilmarysunshine]

13 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

So? - believe it or not, the US is not the only one of the three countries in North America that people from afar decided to move to.

So? I brought it up within the context of people previously saying the character is Latina. I didn’t know that Audra was but the actress is. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

1 minute ago, Js Nana said:

No, as per the following, you did reference allegations that CK had refused to have Lily romantically paired with a Black man:

Refused does not mean the same thing as demanded. The former is a response, and the latter is more of a forward action. I'd advise against parsing my word choices. 

On the rumored news front, one soap forum which tends to have the backstage dirt says veteran soap opera exec Jill Farren Phelps is returning to Y&R in some capacity. Odds are she'll eventually be replacing JG. Not sure whether that's totally good news, lol.

[One Tough Cookie]

I think that before this goes further we ALL should take a deep breath and settle down.

Edited May 26 by One Tough Cookie

[bayviewbubba]

Joimiaroxeu what is the forum you speak of?  I'd love some backstage dirt.

Edited May 26 by bayviewbubba

[boes]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Jill Farren Phelps is returning to Y&R in some capacity. Odds are she'll eventually be replacing JG. Not sure whether that's totally good news, lol.

Oh God, not JFP.  Choosing which is worse, her or JG is like trying to decide if you'd rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy.

[Chatty Cake]

I only watch here and there but watched Fridays episode thinking it’s Friday and they would finally reveal Aristotle Instead they needed the entire show for Michael to quit? Seriously? 
What will be today’s dilemma? Kyle can’t decide between hot dogs or hamburgers? 

[NinjaPenguins]

Kyle will choose a grilled lemon pepper chicken breast and a side salad because Claire has made him his best, healthiest self.

Then he’ll stop at DQ on the way home and pound peanut butter parfaits while weeping softly. 

[Sake614]

14 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I think that before this goes further we ALL should take a deep breath and settle down.

Agreed! If we keep on debating this subject, the mods may end up taking us down. And I would” hate for that to happen because I enjoy the snark too much!

Wait what? JFP aka the soap killer? Does CBS really want to tank their #1 show? 

In other news, I’ve seen speculation on Twitter that Christian is really Dumas. 🤣I mean it makes as much sense as anything else I’ve heard and let’s face it, he hasn’t been seen or heard from in years! 

[Chatty Cake]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Kyle will choose a grilled lemon pepper chicken breast and a side salad because Claire has made him his best, healthiest self.

Then he’ll stop at DQ on the way home and pound peanut butter parfaits while weeping softly. 

After I posted that I thought it would make more sense if Kyle had to choose between hair gel, mousse, or a combo.

[boes]

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Kyle will choose a grilled lemon pepper chicken breast and a side salad because Claire has made him his best, healthiest self.

Then he’ll stop at DQ on the way home and pound peanut butter parfaits while weeping softly. 

We know for sure he won't choose a foot-long.  His self-esteem couldn't take it.

[Sake614]

20 minutes ago, boes said:

We know for sure he won't choose a foot-long.  His self-esteem couldn't take it.

::dead::