Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Snaporaz]

2 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Are you sure they were unsalted, because if Auntie Jordan was trying to slip PCP to Sharon through the bottled water, wouldn't she want to make her even thirstier?

I swear seeing on the bag that they were unsalted. It struck me because I made the mistake of getting an unsalted soft pretzel once, and for me anyway, I realized salt is the whole point of a pretzel.  It also made me remember the bag of gluten-free pretzels I was offered after a blood donation.  I couldn't even finish one of those, and I can't resist a salty snack! 

[Denize]

3 hours ago, Js Nana said:

I know who EB is, but please don't make this poor, old nanna have to look up who MW and MAB are - please?

MW = Maura West, who played the de-aged version of Diane that got bashed on the head and left to die in a green dress in a GC creek

MAB = Maria Arena Bell, Bill Bell's daughter-in-law and writer & producer on many of our least-loved or detested story lines.

Edited Monday at 05:10 AM by Denize

[Waldo13]

Susan Walters was on an episode of NCIS tonight from 7 years ago.  I recognized her right away because of her blue eyes.   

[boes]

5 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

I swear seeing on the bag that they were unsalted.

I saw it too, Snaporaz.  I thought that Aunt Jordan was being especially cruel leaving her unsalted pretzels.  She could have left her a cardboard box to chew on and saved a trip to the 7-11.

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Susan Walters was on an episode of NCIS tonight from 7 years ago.  I recognized her right away because of her blue eyes.   

Mulva! Delores!

Edited Monday at 07:30 AM by surfgirl

[Joimiaroxeu]

13 hours ago, Denize said:

MAB = Maria Arena Bell, Bill Bell's daughter-in-law and writer & producer on many of our least-loved or detested story lines.

It's long been curious to me how marrying into the Bell family was supposed to imbue her with the ability to write or produce a TV show.

On 1/17/2025 at 10:11 PM, Denize said:

Victoria's shapeless drop cloth.

Yes! That's exactly what her dress looks like. My comparing it to a Jackson Pollock painting in a previous post was silly.

[Js Nana]

23 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

I swear seeing on the bag that they were unsalted.

Well, I think that makes it another case of either this show's honchos not knowing their asses from the elbows, or their thinking that we're too stupid to notice the incongruity of Auntie Jordan leaving unsalted pretzels as the only food when she wants to make Sharon thirsty enough to chug down the PCP laden bottled water.

[Denize]

Maybe Jordan wanted Sharon to be poisoned slowly and suffer longer. Unsalted pretzels can be pretty dry as well as being tasteless.  Jordan still hasn't learned that when Soap Opera villians don't kill their victims quickly, they usually escape.

[ScoobieDoobs]

It’s wiggy wig wig Tuesday!  Uh oh, Nikki’s wig looks like an upside-down blonde bowl plopped on her head.  And Jordie’s brunette winter/ski hat wig?  Is she Jordie . . . or Barbara Ryan from As the World Turns in 1995, crying over some man treating her like crap?

And Vicky’s hippie chick getup?  Is she Michelle Phillips singing Monday, Monday with The Mamas & Papas on Ed Sullivan in 1968?

So Chance seems to own only one shirt, which he’s worn for the last month.  And it’s short sleeves in the middle of winter.  Er, any complaints?

Claire’s trench still looks cute, but totally unbelievable to wear in Midwest winter.  And with short sleeves?  Brrrr.

Vic’s leather jacket continues to be cringey.

So Chance takes orders now from Nick?  OK then.

Edited Tuesday at 09:02 PM by ScoobieDoobs

[tanyak]

Oof. 

I thought Claire was laying it on quite thick, but like she says, she knows her aunt. She seemed to fall for it. 

Yes, Chance. Let's make a phone call with our back to an open door. *sigh*

There was something odd about the way Nikki said "Sharon's children must be so worried about her." I mean, 2/3rds of those kids are her actual grandchildren. The phrasing made it sounds like she was talking about some neighbor. I admit I'm splitting hairs. 

Why are days SO LONG lately? I know there was no show yesterday, but it's been the same day for a week now. And nights are so long. I meant to comment a while ago, but on New Year's Eve/Day, we saw them toast at midnight, but them we got another couple of episodes with people meeting up at restaurants and chatting post toast. 

ETA: Adding to agree with the previous post. Why is Chance letting Nick run him like that? NIck, the search warrant isn't just about being sued. It's about protecting any evidence you find while running around like a maniac. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:13 PM by tanyak

[ScoobieDoobs]

Btw, anyone notice Claire seems to have almost completely forgotten about Shmoopy?  She may have mentioned him once with an indifferent shrug.  Welp, he is forgettable . . .

[Chatty Cake]

Why are Victoria and Nikki so dumb? At least tell Victor that Jordan is running around town. Do they really trust Claire? She went from cuckoo to sweet innocent nanny in record time.

[Joimiaroxeu]

If it's Tuesday, Jordan must be doing one of her scenery-chewing monologues, again. Yay. 😐

Claire is the new Newman Enforcer. She had Nikki and Victoria obeying her orders and I was loving it.

Chance looked to me like he'd lost weight. Hope the actor is okay.

Get over yourself, Victoria. You're the one who decided Claire was an innocent naif. Hah hah, she's turning out to be a bigger bad@$$ than your daddy.

That was a nice handbag Jordan was carrying. Guess Ian financed a whole new wardrobe for her after he got her out of prison.

Wait, what? Grandpa Victor has given Claire a horse but not a trust fund? Ehh, I think Claire was lying to Jordan about needing Victoria to die before Claire can get any big Newman bucks.

When Jordan leaves the motel does she take all her stuff with her? It was odd how Nick and Chance found no indication of her having been there except for the lipstick on the tumbler.

My girl Claire was playing Jordan like an entire orchestra. She is a con artist virtuoso, baby!

So is Victoria going to have to pretend to be dead in order to help Claire convince Jordan Claire killed her? The corpse bride jokes will write themselves. 😼

Edited Tuesday at 10:45 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

3 hours ago, tanyak said:

There was something odd about the way Nikki said "Sharon's children must be so worried about her." I mean, 2/3rds of those kids are her actual grandchildren. The phrasing made it sounds like she was talking about some neighbor. I admit I'm splitting hairs. 

It reminded me of a scene on All My Children when one of Erica Kane's daughters was talking to her kids about Erica. Instead of saying, "your grandmother," she said, "your mommy's mommy." It was ridiculous. (Allegedly, per Susan Lucci's contract, Erica couId never be referred to as a grandmother.)

3 hours ago, tanyak said:

Why are days SO LONG lately? I know there was no show yesterday, but it's been the same day for a week now.

A week is nothing. In the past JG has stretched one day out to nearly three weeks. Maybe he'll beat his own record. 😱

[One Tough Cookie]

3 hours ago, tanyak said:

Why are days SO LONG lately? I know there was no show yesterday, but it's been the same day for a week now

Seems more like a month.

 

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

My girl Claire was playing Jordan like an entire orchestra. She is a con artist virtuoso, baby

I STILL think she's playing both of them.

 

1  What does Sharon use for a toilet?

Chamsome, you good looking numbskull...don't you realize anything Nick finds will NOT be able to use in court?

[Waldo13]

I was expecting Auntie Jordan, as she was looking into the mirror, would say mirror mirrors on the wall, who’s the evilest one of them all.  I was also expecting for Ian to come up behind Claire/Eve and chloroform her.  

I find the exchange between Claire/Eve and Auntie Jordan quite interesting because it was a battle of whits between two very credible actors. 

Just another small detail that I have to mention. Auntie Jordan comes up to a closed door, doesn’t seem to open it, and the door is partially open so Auntie Jordan can hear Chance calling for a warrant.  I’m now expecting that Auntie Jordan would be more weary of Claire/Eve setting her up.  

[Js Nana]

Just speculating, but I would pay to see a storyline where it turns out that Claire/Eve is using the Newmans to rid her of the obstacle of her Auntie Jordan as part of a plot to be the last Newman standing - or - maybe using the disposable Auntie Jordan to eradicate as many of the Newmans as possible for the same end.

56 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

What does Sharon use for a toilet?

Although the show is too tasteful to show the turds piling up, it looked like she had enough length on that chain before she smashed the lock to be able to squat and go, which leaves the question "What is she using for TP."

1 hour ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I STILL think she's playing both of them.

I'm starting to wonder the same thing - something like that would make for a storyline I'd tune in for.

[Js Nana]

5 hours ago, tanyak said:

Yes, Chance. Let's make a phone call with our back to an open door. *sigh*

GC's finest are on the case.

On 1/20/2025 at 12:29 AM, Waldo13 said:

Susan Walters was on an episode of NCIS tonight from 7 years ago.

She also played Priscilla Beaulieu Presley in the 1988 TV movie "Elvis and Me"

[One Tough Cookie]

18 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Although the show is too tasteful to show the turds piling up,

/dead/

[Js Nana]

On 1/20/2025 at 1:19 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

It's long been curious to me how marrying into the Bell family was supposed to imbue her with the ability to write or produce a TV show.

Well, that does explain the storylines where Nikki and her children are imbued with the smarts to be CEOs without any education or training.

[pvandal]

17 hours ago, Js Nana said:

Although the show is too tasteful to show the turds piling up,

I think those are called storylines.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Must say, Claire’s cold manner & sneering when talking about the Newmans’ “hypocrisy” is way more believable than the goody-goody 12 year old act she’s been putting out for the past year.

Uh, where are ya, Shmoopy, while your supposed girlfriend is busy planning murder?  Fluffing up your pomp?

Interesting that all 3 witches ultimately seem fine & dandy with murder, & not immediately contacting the police to deal with an escaped convict.

[tanyak]

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Must say, Claire’s cold manner & sneering when talking about the Newmans’ “hypocrisy” is way more believable than the goody-goody 12 year old act she’s been putting out for the past year.

Uh, where are ya, Shmoopy, while your supposed girlfriend is busy planning murder?  Fluffing up your pomp?

Interesting that all 3 witches ultimately seem fine & dandy with murder, & not immediately contacting the police to deal with an escaped convict.

Yeah, the Claire actress was really good today when she tore into Jordan about her skills slipping. 

I also continue to think it's ridiculous that Jordan apparently still does not have a last name. 

Lastly, I can understand why Claire doesn't want to involve the police. They'll want to do things on the up and up. But what's the deal with keeping it from Victor? 

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, tanyak said:

also continue to think it's ridiculous that Jordan apparently still does not have a last name. 

I think it is also ridiculous that they never explained how Auntie Jordan is supporting herself.

[lilmarysunshine]

3 hours ago, tanyak said:

Yeah, the Claire actress was really good today when she tore into Jordan about her skills slipping. 

I also continue to think it's ridiculous that Jordan apparently still does not have a last name. 

Lastly, I can understand why Claire doesn't want to involve the police. They'll want to do things on the up and up. But what's the deal with keeping it from Victor? 

I still am in disbelief that a 70-something? woman is named “Jordan” and not Mary, Deborah, Barbara, or Carol. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I think it is also ridiculous that they never explained how Auntie Jordan is supporting herself.

 

3 hours ago, tanyak said:

Lastly, I can understand why Claire doesn't want to involve the police. They'll want to do things on the up and up. But what's the deal with keeping it from Victor? 

He'll want to kill Jordan with brussel sprouts again.

Nobody wants that.

[Waldo13]

Was Claire/Eve’s plan all along to find out that Ian was Auntie Jordan’s cohort, who killed Heather, and where Sharon is being held hostage?  Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Auntie Jordan confess to killing Heather?  Now Auntie Jordan said that Ian killed Heather.  Claire/Eve didn’t find out where Auntie Jordan hid Sharon so she was stopped from drinking her mud of hemlock; but was Auntie Jordan was faking to take a sip, of “tea” to see Claire/Eve’s reaction?  I guess we will find out tomorrow. 

Does Claire/Eve realize that even if she doesn’t kill Auntie Jordan, she, Nikki, and Victoria are guilty of a crime for aiding and abetting an escaped felon?  

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

5 hours ago, tanyak said:

I also continue to think it's ridiculous that Jordan apparently still does not have a last name. 

As confirmed by IMDb, Wikipedia, and other sources from the googles, Jordan's last name is Howard. Her sister is Eve Howard, who was Victor's lover back in the day. Her nephew is Cole Howard who is Claire's daddy.

[Js Nana]

5 hours ago, tanyak said:

I also continue to think it's ridiculous that Jordan apparently still does not have a last name.

As the never married sister of Cole Howard's mother, Eve Howard, Jordan's last name is Howard.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Nick: F...I...G.H.T! Fight, Sharon! Fight!

Wait, I thought that hideout place was called the NoTell Motel. (😉) Chance referred to it as the Riverbank Motel. Sounds less sleazy, ha ha.

Jordan wears glasses now? When she was on the phone with Claire she had them on.

Okay, when Jordan met up with Claire again she wasn't wearing glasses. Continuity error?

Whee, Claire went into beast mode with Aunt Jordan. And Jordan seemed both a little intimidated and lowkey proud.

When Chance read his phone message about the fingerprint ID he griped, "Son of a bitch" like he'd just run out of hair mousse or something. I got the feeling the actor doesn't commonly use naughty language IRL.

Ugh, Jordan squeezing Claire's shoulder with her gloved hand was kinda creepy, in a controlling abuser kind of way. I kept waiting for Jordan either to give Claire a hard pinch or pop her upside the head.

And then later when Jordan arrived at the Tack House she still wasn't wearing glasses. WTH?

Uh oh, Claire. Asking Jordan about Heather's death was one question too far. I hope you've been recording those little reunion chats with your psycho auntie.

Yeah, the tea Claire served Jordan must've been tainted if she suddenly told Jordan not to drink it. Darn it, Claire, did you overplay your hand?

Edited 18 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[ScoobieDoobs]

Me thinks Jordie is lying about Heather.  Going with all the descriptions of Ian, sure, he’s a sleaze, but he ain’t a killer.  But Jordie?  We’ve seen her casually murder & not even give it a second thought.  Remember poor Seth, Nikki’s brief AA sponsor?

[Denize]

5 hours ago, boes said:

He'll want to kill Jordan with brussel sprouts again.

Victor is probably kicking himself for making Cole & Michael brick up the jail cell in his basement.

The Newmans should all carry zip ties on their person to make citizen's arrests on all the criminals trespassing and following them around.

Edited 15 hours ago by Denize

[tanyak]

3 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

As confirmed by IMDb, Wikipedia, and other sources from the googles, Jordan's last name is Howard. Her sister is Eve Howard, who was Victor's lover back in the day. Her nephew is Cole Howard who is Claire's daddy.

But have they ever actually said that on the show? That’s the part that’s weird to me. It’s a minor point, but it just seems odd and a bit chummy to constantly refer to crazy criminal by her first name only. I do remember someone saying in the past that according to websites, her last name should be Howard.

Even Ian Ward gets a last name, lol

[ByaNose]

On 1/19/2025 at 8:32 PM, Js Nana said:

Are you sure they were unsalted, because if Auntie Jordan was trying to slip PCP to Sharon through the bottled water, wouldn't she want to make her even thirstier?

I know who EB is, but please don't make this poor, old nanna have to look up who MW and MAB are - please?

Maura West and Maria Arena Bell. Do better. LOL!!!!

[NinjaPenguins]

While Claire is infinitely more interesting away from Kyle, I’m still creeped out by how easily the Newman family convinces themselves that they absolutely must engage in abhorrent behavior and that it’s always justified because reasons. Perhaps acquiring better judgment in hiring security personnel would solve a lot of the Newman family problems. I’m thinking Claire stopped Jordan from drinking her toxic tea because she wants to know where Sharon is located before she straight up murders her ass. I could be wrong and often am.

Then you have Deputy Dongbongler acting like he’s Chance’s boss, harassing motel guests and “leaning on” the night manager. Maybe Nick should have been a detective all along instead of show trying to pass him off as a business executive who can count without taking his shoes off. Sure, he’d be the dumbest cop around, but having everyone work in the family business isn’t great entertainment either. Imagine nepo baby Kyle pursuing his dream of being the first human toilet brush instead of annoying the living shit out of his parents.

PCP must be one hell of a drug if it causes you to hallucinate glowing motivational speaker baboons. Just say no, kids.

[Joimiaroxeu]

10 hours ago, tanyak said:

But have they ever actually said that on the show? That’s the part that’s weird to me. It’s a minor point, but it just seems odd and a bit chummy to constantly refer to crazy criminal by her first name only. I do remember someone saying in the past that according to websites, her last name should be Howard.

Even Ian Ward gets a last name, lol

I went through the designated YR criminals I could think of and yeah, to my recall they all were referred to by both their first and last names. I remembered it getting especially ridiculous with the ominous references to Jeremy Stark, who turned out to be mainly an overblown plot device.

I dunno, maybe the YR writers want to avoid confusing the Jordan Howard character with two IRL professional athletes of the same name. When I first did a search yesterday most of the results were for Jordan Howard the NFL football player. Far be it from YR to risk offending their powerful online sports betting advertisers. 😉

Edited 4 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[boes]

3 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

PCP must be one hell of a drug if it causes you to hallucinate glowing motivational speaker baboons.

Right?!!?  Wasn't this storyline supposed to honor Sharon Case's long history with Show?  Just imagine what Josh Griffin would have written if he hated her....

If she has to hullucinate, why not Richard Simmons dancing to the oldies, or Martha Stewart pushing impossible recipes and overpriced junk, or maybe Billy Mays celebrating another Ronco product or Oxyclean.

God knows the place she's in could use a good cleaning and there'd be enough left over for Nick.

As good as Claire is at overtalking Nikki and Victoria into this murder plot, I can't buy it as long as Nikki stays dressed in her Queen of the Winkies outfit.

Also, I've given up on trying to figure out what day it is in Genoa City, but what the hell TIME is it??  Katie and Johnnie are safely tucked up in bed somewhere, Victor is roaming the halls in his leather jacket, Crimson Lights is still open and Victoria is wandering around in her Norma Desmond wrapper.  

At least we know Christian is still safely locked in the garage.

Edited 4 hours ago by boes

[MollyB]

20 hours ago, tanyak said:

But what's the deal with keeping it from Victor? 

Claire mentioned early on that if they told Viktor he would just take over and run the show his way. (paraphrasing)  Which would be to have the Three Witches cowering in the Tack House with a single shot rifle while he and the mens go out and get the bad guys.

14 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Jordan wears glasses now?

I think they are part of her 'disguise' when she's roaming about town.  

 

14 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Uh oh, Claire. Asking Jordan about Heather's death was one question too far. I hope you've been recording those little reunion chats with your psycho auntie.

Yeah, the tea Claire served Jordan must've been tainted if she suddenly told Jordan not to drink it. Darn it, Claire, did you overplay your hand?

One more dumb move, Claire, and you're out.  And if Jordan has such finely honed homicidal/criminal skills, why isn't she suspicious?  Although, maybe she is onto Claire, since she blamed the murder of Heather on Ian.

 

16 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Does Claire/Eve realize that even if she doesn’t kill Auntie Jordan, she, Nikki, and Victoria are guilty of a crime for aiding and abetting an escaped felon?  

Does it matter in GC?  When you commit a crime in GC you are either murdered (for example, Jeremy Stark) or given Community Service (for example, you know who).

[ScoobieDoobs]

It’s Confrontation Thursday!  Vic keeps on his leather jacket . . . uh, why?  Guess he thinks it makes him look tuff?  Meh.

Nice to see Sharon as resourceful & resilient & able to fend for herself, and that she doesn’t need to depend on Nick.  She was looking so lovely, but today her face looked bloated.  Er, huh?

Drink your tea, Jordie.  Ya won’t die cuz the writers won’t let ya die.  See, she’s the super-human elderly lady who can survive anything & break outta any prison.  OK then.

Edited 1 hour ago by ScoobieDoobs