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58 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

It's amazing how the special Abbott family Christmas ornament has lasted so long. Jack must keep in it a vault to protect it.

I was afraid that he'd trip and break it after Traci ordered him to put it on the tree, just like I used to worry about the Big Blue Plate before it disappeared.

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Give me a f’n brake. Claire/Eve is an adult, not a 5 year old on their first day of kindergarten.  Wouldn’t you think that Nikki would be more nervous about running Chancellor, for the first day, since she is really not qualified. In retrospect, Nikki is more qualified than Billy👃

Think about the way Claire/Eve and Kyle were raised.  Then think about how Claire/Eve can be more intuitive than Kyle.  She’s more down to earth where Kyle is arrogant.  

 

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Today's episode made me misplace my snark.  The Abbott house, which, as Joimiaroxeu said so well, 

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

the Abbott manse looked like Santa's elves took some PCP and had an all-night rave in it.

made me fall into my feelz, along with that Christmas music in the background.

Then, Jack's talk with Traci about Dina, and those flashbacks, made me miss the character and her portrayer, Marla Adams, all over again.  I didn't always love the storylines they gave to Dina but always loved seeing her onscreen.

But, and there's always a but, Claire and Kyle's schmoopy shortcake of a date made me think of mostly of Frau Blucher

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in Young Frankenstein, again.  Maybe not exactly the romantic image you want to project, eh, Show?

Sticking with that theme, taking advice from Esther is like asking for directions

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from Igor.

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^^^Aw, man. Now I gotta go watch Young Frankenstein again. It's one of the greatest comedies of all time.

5 hours ago, Denize said:

I was afraid that he'd trip and break it after Traci ordered him to put it on the tree

Hee! Traci was definitely on one today but I guess Jack needed a good talkin' to. She's the bestest baby sister in GC.

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Oh, I agree about the shmoopy vibe goin' on & it is def nauseating.  Those looks on Kyle's mug as he's gazing at Claire?  Ew.  Now, if they get a booth somewhere & both sit on the same side?  Sorry, that would be too much for me . . .

Funny I never thought about the prospect of Audra being preggers.  It would explain Ms. Coldness suddenly being emotional.  I thought the usual soap signal for a character being preggers is to faint, but OK.  Sorry, but it can't be Tuck as baby daddy cuz he's been gone for 6 months -- unless Show is gonna give some dopey explanation how she secretly got with him?

Well, being preggers would give Audra a storyline cuz I still say nobody in GC would give her a job cuz her rep for back-stabbing anyone/everyone is too well-known.

Uh, what would give me some giggles is if Esther doles out life advice to Phyllis . . . and she listens to it & takes it.  Yeah, right.

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Color me underwhelmed. I always love Jack, but the rest of the show was a total waste of my time.

Watching Nikki and Victoria gush and fret about Claire’s first day of nepo baby daycare was exhausting. You’d think Claire was an alien tossed overboard as a flying saucer buzzed by planet Earth. Golly, will our plucky heroine ever learn what it means to be truly human? When you’re absorbed into the Newman collective, chances are high you’ll learn how to be an asshole and little else.

As if two idiots mooning over Claire wasn’t thrilling enough, Kyle was a contestant on the “Compliment Claire” game. Everyone lost, including the audience. I’m surprised show didn’t have Claire pop into Crimson Lights to offer her sage advice to Diane instead of Esther. What a missed opportunity.

I can’t believe I’m typing this, but I think I’m rooting for Summer to steal her brother husband back. 

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On 12/17/2024 at 8:48 AM, Sake614 said:

I dunno. I think they’re walking back the dead Martin angle. At least I hope they are. I never liked the idea in the first place, especially since Traci would be the one to get hurt most.

I hope so and agreed

On 12/17/2024 at 1:09 AM, ScoobieDoobs said:

OK, so we finally got some answers to fill in the missing (& massive) swiss-cheese holes in the backstory of Jordie & Ian.  Alrighty then, so they discovered they had something in common -- their hatred for the Newmans for "stealing" their loved ones.  But ya know what I also got from that fuzzy B&W backstory?  And I mean, other than B&W is NO friend to either Colleen or Ray!  The weird & immediate flirtatiousness & obvious sexual attraction btw those 2.

I know, I know, it's pretty icky to think those 2 are in a sexual relationship, as well as partners in some loony revenge scheme against the Newmans.  But Idk, the backstory made it look pretty apparent they are.  And yeah, they are sharing a room & a bed, but THANKFULLY Show hasn't really approached the subject directly -- other than a comment from one of 'em, how they bicker like an old married couple.

Wait, was I hallucinating or was Phyllis actually making sense?  Uh, what the what?  Well, she was right, telling Billy going after Vic is a bad idea -- specifically cuz it could (maybe indirectly) harm their kids.  Also, why should either of those 2 poke the bear, when he's not after either of 'em?  Vic seems to have lost interest in Billy, and Phyllis is totally off his radar.  Ah, but I'm sure we can count on lunatic Phyllis to not follow her own sensible advice -- and loser Billy to continue acting like a loser.  So they'll predictably go after Vic, and with disastrous results -- for them.

Sorry, but Dead Martin putting Sharon under hypnosis in 2 seconds was ridiculous, stupid & silly.  And what's with Dead Martin's floppy hairstyle?  Ringo from 1964 wants it back ASAP, Dead Martin!

So today it's official!  Claire's hair color is now brown, brown, brown.  But will it be Morticia Addams black by next week -- to match the Goth dress?  And just what setting is that get-up appropriate in?  Funeral home?  Mausoleum (er, reboot Newman joint)?  The Addams Family or The Munsters homes?

Even though its not great and I don't want them there, I'm glad at least we got some more backstory on Jordan and Ian.

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On 12/18/2024 at 1:48 AM, boes said:

I don't buy her not crying at other times, either.  She must have burst into uncontrollable sobbing after having whateverthehell she was doing with Kyle.  He should put more clothes ON when he gets in bed, not take anything off.

Speaking of Kyle, Diane must be seeing the wisdom of either having at least two children, or none at all, by now.

Let me see if I've got this right....... so Billy Le Rump Muffin goes into some sustained rant, using Jack as a human handkerchief to catch all his exploding bile, telling Jack that he's cut off, barred from the biscuit, denied sinus entry, that he's no longer allowed to sled on the slippery slope of Billy's rocky ski run of a soul and that's supposed to somehow make Jack unhappy??

Jack just got his Get out of Jail Free card!  

Bill is just as wise as he is sexay.  

If you're in need of imagining something both mentally grueling and also soul-killingly dull, imagine spending an entire work day with just Nikki, Claire and Esther.

I believe that's forbidden by the Geneva Convention.

I actually think Audra is crying is real. I do think Nate got to her but I'm sure that writers will mess that up. More funny stuff Boes, keep it coming.

17 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Victoria is such a helicopter parent. Even if Claire had been terrible at her first day back at work, it wasn't as if she'd get fired. Calm down, Vikki.

Esther's hair. Yikes. Her having 47 jobs seems to be taking its toll. 😼

Here we go. Traci's gonna do her Mother Hen thing on Jack. Again.

It's amazing how the special Abbott family Christmas ornament has lasted so long. Jack must keep in it a vault to protect it.

Claire being schmoopy with Kyle made me want to throw stuff at the TV.

Diane having a gigantic dessert latte at night will be helpful if she's planning to keep fighting with Kyle when she gets home. She likely won't be sleepy.

Diane taking life advice from Esther of all people.  #whoa

But Jack, you always knew Dina was alive and residing elsewhere after she abandoned you and your sisters. Kyle thought Diane was dead. Not quite the same.

The staff at Society must've been biting their tongues not to tell Claire and Kyle to pay up and get out. Closing time, you two lovebirds. Look into it.

Holey moley, the Abbott manse looked like Santa's elves took some PCP and had an all-night rave in it.

Sentimental Dina flashbacks. Okay. Yet no mention of John Abbott. 😐

Jack may have accidentally c-blocked Kyle, lol. I think Claire was planning to have a sleepover with her newly official boyfriend until she saw what a mood Jack was in.

I'm sure Diane now is going to take Esther's advice to make some life sacrifice for Kyle, although I'm not sure he deserves it. I'm sure Jordan is involved or maybe even Ian somehow. 

 

11 hours ago, boes said:

Today's episode made me misplace my snark.  The Abbott house, which, as Joimiaroxeu said so well, 

made me fall into my feelz, along with that Christmas music in the background.

Then, Jack's talk with Traci about Dina, and those flashbacks, made me miss the character and her portrayer, Marla Adams, all over again.  I didn't always love the storylines they gave to Dina but always loved seeing her onscreen.

But, and there's always a but, Claire and Kyle's schmoopy shortcake of a date made me think of mostly of Frau Blucher

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in Young Frankenstein, again.  Maybe not exactly the romantic image you want to project, eh, Show?

Sticking with that theme, taking advice from Esther is like asking for directions

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from Igor.

Okay it wasn't just me who got the feels from this episode.

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8 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I can’t believe I’m typing this, but I think I’m rooting for Summer to steal her brother husband back

I’m with you. At least those two have some chemistry.

 Are the writers really unaware of how unlikable Pollyanna Claire is?

 

 

Bright spot on todays show:

 TELMA HOPKINS in da house!

My whole body smiles from the inside out whenever I hear her voice. Her comedy on the Tony Orlando and Dawn show is such a happy childhood memory.

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Cute. The actress playing Denise the PI and the actress playing Amy Lewis were both on a sitcom called Half & Half back in the early aughts. It's rerunning on one of the retro channels owned by CBS. Nice to see TPTB giving a couple of their vets work again.

Does Lucy have an after-school job loading trucks at a warehouse? Her khaki jumpsuit was weird to me.

Meanwhile, I thought Alan was looking rather dapper in his mobile psychologist outfit.

If Amy's scared flying to L.A. would worsen her health issues, at least she'd have Nate with her. As a doctor he could probably prescribe something to help her feel better, no?

Phyllis in a simple outfit with no bare shoulders, thigh-high slits, or thumb holes in her sleeves. What sorcery is this? 😼

Hah, Phyllis wanted Daniel to talk her into helping Billy get payback on Victor. Unfortunately for her, Daniel wasn't born yesterday.

Phyllis, what you need is a JOB!  Not to go on some b.s. revenge quest with Billy. Gah.

Sorry but Amy's story about Damien seems hella fishy to me. I'm wondering if Nate's being set up by her and Damien. Maybe taking Audra with him to L.A. is a good idea.

So someone else was there when Sharon had her big fight with Heather. It looked liked a woman's hand touched Sharon's shoulder. Too bad Sharon didn't see who the hand belonged to before she blacked out.

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Please Nick🦍 just shut the fuck up. Your opinion sucks.  I’m with Sharon. It’s better to know one way or another than obsess about not knowing.  Just when Sharon was getting to the best part in how Heather was killed, she was brought out.  It was like coitus interruptus. 

Once again Daniel and Manic Phyllis🕷️ are having a private conversation, in public, when they could have had the same conversation in Daniel’s apartment?  

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39 minutes ago, lgprimes said:

I’m with you. At least those two have some chemistry.

 Are the writers really unaware of how unlikable Pollyanna Claire is?

 

 

Bright spot on todays show:

 TELMA HOPKINS in da house!

My whole body smiles from the inside out whenever I hear her voice. Her comedy on the Tony Orlando and Dawn show is such a happy childhood memory.

And TH played Bryton James (Devon) mom on Family Mattters. BJ's name on FM was little Richie.

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On 12/19/2024 at 5:01 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Phyllis in a simple outfit with no bare shoulders, thigh-high slits, or thumb holes in her sleeves. What sorcery is this? 😼

I’ve noticed that the past few weeks the fashion choices have been a bit more realistic, and I really am grateful for that!

They did announce a new wardrobe exec recently: well-done!

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Friday Rant:

  • Is it pick-a-lane time with Phyllus?  Is she going to follow the path of righteousness and convincingly apologize to Sharon for all her accusations?  Is she going to make up with Michael/Lauren and admit she was/is a hypocritical whistleblower shit disturber? Nah, she's going to team up with Billy and use these fully honed skills to take down Viktor.
  • Which will be a disaster because Billy is clueless as to how tie his own shoes let alone joust with King Viktor.  The only way Bileezibub can succeed is if saying he's going to do it (over and over [three times?]) will make it happen.
  • I'm very tired of Boris and Natasha's "plan" of revenge.  No, wait, I'm tired of trying to figure out what it is and the why of it.  So now it's that their respective "children" (Mariah and Cleve) were stolen by Sharon and the Newman Clan? WTF?  They are grownass people who are living a better life than you can ever give them and they are not your children! Be happy for them.
  • Small law rant here regarding the prison depiction.  So they let a former cult leader who saw the light during his incarceration just wander freely to mingle with inmates in a high security prison without a CO (I want visibly, not off camera, JG) or perhaps checking his background? Nope, ain't buying it.
  • So much has been said about Claire's second debut into the corporate world that all I can add is what can she possibly gain from having Nikki mentor her?  I would think that Claire got all Nikki had to offer of corporate leadership in the first time she worked for her.  It's not a deep well.  Claire went to business school-maybe she has something to offer Nikki.
  • And then there's Nate.  He's going to fly to LA to confront a possible half brother that may or may not still be living where the PI said he was who most probably will tell him (and mama) to fuck off.  Since the PI told them where he is, why not just send him a (certified) letter about the state of his mom's health and let him decide what he wants to do.  Again, he's also a grownass person.  (Has Nate checked out Amy's condition?  Do we know she really is dying?  Her manipulation of Nate ["you go and find him, I'm too sick"] smells like a scam to me.)
  • Oh, Kyle.  Grow up already.  Or get some counseling.  You have some pretty deep-seated anger with both your parents.  How long do you want them to suffer with your insecurities?

Suggestion box:

Phyllus and Victoria-get a real job and stay out of your children's life for a while.

Tip the new hairstylist more so she gets rid of the stiff hairdos.

 

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Shivering in GC?  Summer in sparkles & no sleeves -- brrrr.  Sharon bares one shoulder?  Put a shawl or a sweater on, Sharon -- it's winter now, hun!

Ugh, Sharon, stop fighting those who want you to defend yourself.  Sheesh, what a PITA she continues to be.

Michael said exactly what I was thinkin'.  All well & nice that Alan's (or Dead Martin?) hypnosis lead to some clues of what happened to Heather & that Sharon likely didn't kill her.  But how is that relevant in court, to proving she didn't do it?

Scene with Daniel, Summer Phyllis & Lucy?  Blah, blah, blah & white noise.  Who cares about any of it?  Fully expect Phyllis to go all in with Billy cuz it's stupid, ridiculous & silly.  But surprise me, Show, with me being wrong . . .

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For a second I wondered if Daniel had dragged in Heather's bundled-up corpse. JG didn't think the staging of that scene through, lol.

No wimpy vodka for Jordan. No siree. She drinks the brown liquor straight, no chaser.

Jordan! You tried to kill the Newmans and you kidnapped Harrison and Claire. In no way are you an innocent victim, you psycho.

Come on, aren't there other people in GC besides Mariah who would recognize Ian? His feeling safe to sit undisguised in Society in the middle of the day seemed delusional to me.

Nick: the cops better find the other person who was in Daniel's building the night Sharon didn't kill Heather!
Joi: or what, Nick? What? You'll hold your breath until you turn blue? FOH.

Whoo, I guess CZ was itching to chew some scenery today. Since when does Jordan need to get drunk to act overwrought?

Sigh, Tessa, you're going to feel so awful when you find out who "Warren" actually is. He played you like a piano. And now wee Aria may be at risk too since you showed Ian her photo.

Only Phyllis can turn a sappy Christmas wish moment into a lowkey threat against Sharon. Geez, Red, get on with it then.

Wait, Jordan was trying to seduce Ian? Ewwwwww!!!!! No wonder she was chugging the booze. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

For a second I wondered if Daniel had dragged in Heather's bundled-up corpse

Thank goodness someone else thought this. A Summers family Christmas kicking off with a fresh kill would not surprise me at all. As it was, the tree trimming was heartwarming like a fire hose blast of ice water to the crotch. The comedic highlight was Summer calling herself a style expert while wearing that shirt. Naturally, Phyllis ends the episode with ominous threats serving as her holiday wish. Nothing else happened after that. Nothing.

Cave baboon Nick returns, grunting and throwing scat to establish his dominance over Sharon’s case. Michael fortunately has experience settling down dumb assholes. If Nick is so hot to investigate, he should open his own detective agency and see if he can’t find his own ass with two hands, a flashlight and a map.

 

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Manic Phyllis🕷️spreading cheer is like the a mosquito spreading yellow fever. 

So lan paid off a random dying woman to replace Auntie Jordan in prison. Now we have to believe that the warden and prison guards didn’t notice Auntie Jordan looks different.  

After seeing Auntie Jordan and Ian kissing, I need eye and brain bleach 🤢🤢🤢🤮

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So I was right about Jordie & Ian being in a sexual relationship, eh?  Ugh, sorry but I truly regret being right about that.  I thought Show was being tasteful & discreet about this.  But now that's gone out the window & Show wants to throw the icky nature of their relationship in our faces?  Blech, ick, yuck & feh!

Sheesh, Colleen, clearly you're a game kinda gal, but please tell JG to lay off the B&W shit cuz that lighting is unkind to anyone & everyone.

Wowza, Ash actually gets to say a few words next week & do something other than shake her shag.  Maybe the writers really are re-considering the Dead Martin slant?

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On 12/19/2024 at 5:01 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Cute. The actress playing Denise the PI and the actress playing Amy Lewis were both on a sitcom called Half & Half back in the early aughts. It's rerunning on one of the retro channels owned by CBS. Nice to see TPTB giving a couple of their vets work again.

Does Lucy have an after-school job loading trucks at a warehouse? Her khaki jumpsuit was weird to me.

Meanwhile, I thought Alan was looking rather dapper in his mobile psychologist outfit.

If Amy's scared flying to L.A. would worsen her health issues, at least she'd have Nate with her. As a doctor he could probably prescribe something to help her feel better, no?

Phyllis in a simple outfit with no bare shoulders, thigh-high slits, or thumb holes in her sleeves. What sorcery is this? 😼

Hah, Phyllis wanted Daniel to talk her into helping Billy get payback on Victor. Unfortunately for her, Daniel wasn't born yesterday.

Phyllis, what you need is a JOB!  Not to go on some b.s. revenge quest with Billy. Gah.

Sorry but Amy's story about Damien seems hella fishy to me. I'm wondering if Nate's being set up by her and Damien. Maybe taking Audra with him to L.A. is a good idea.

So someone else was there when Sharon had her big fight with Heather. It looked liked a woman's hand touched Sharon's shoulder. Too bad Sharon didn't see who the hand belonged to before she blacked out.

I hadn't realized they were on that show together. I couldn't recall who played the mothers on there. I saw it in re runs. Kind of liked it.

On 12/19/2024 at 5:29 PM, babyhouseman said:

And TH played Bryton James (Devon) mom on Family Mattters. BJ's name on FM was little Richie.

That's right. It would have been kind of funny if Devon came into Crimson Lights and got coffee and the PI said he reminded her of someone.

8 hours ago, MollyB said:

Friday Rant:

  • Is it pick-a-lane time with Phyllus?  Is she going to follow the path of righteousness and convincingly apologize to Sharon for all her accusations?  Is she going to make up with Michael/Lauren and admit she was/is a hypocritical whistleblower shit disturber? Nah, she's going to team up with Billy and use these fully honed skills to take down Viktor.
  • Which will be a disaster because Billy is clueless as to how tie his own shoes let alone joust with King Viktor.  The only way Bileezibub can succeed is if saying he's going to do it (over and over [three times?]) will make it happen.
  • I'm very tired of Boris and Natasha's "plan" of revenge.  No, wait, I'm tired of trying to figure out what it is and the why of it.  So now it's that their respective "children" (Mariah and Cleve) were stolen by Sharon and the Newman Clan? WTF?  They are grownass people who are living a better life than you can ever give them and they are not your children! Be happy for them.
  • Small law rant here regarding the prison depiction.  So they let a former cult leader who saw the light during his incarceration just wander freely to mingle with inmates in a high security prison without a CO (I want visibly, not off camera, JG) or perhaps checking his background? Nope, ain't buying it.
  • So much has been said about Claire's second debut into the corporate world that all I can add is what can she possibly gain from having Nikki mentor her?  I would think that Claire got all Nikki had to offer of corporate leadership in the first time she worked for her.  It's not a deep well.  Claire went to business school-maybe she has something to offer Nikki.
  • And then there's Nate.  He's going to fly to LA to confront a possible half brother that may or may not still be living where the PI said he was who most probably will tell him (and mama) to fuck off.  Since the PI told them where he is, why not just send him a (certified) letter about the state of his mom's health and let him decide what he wants to do.  Again, he's also a grownass person.  (Has Nate checked out Amy's condition?  Do we know she really is dying?  Her manipulation of Nate ["you go and find him, I'm too sick"] smells like a scam to me.)
  • Oh, Kyle.  Grow up already.  Or get some counseling.  You have some pretty deep-seated anger with both your parents.  How long do you want them to suffer with your insecurities?

Suggestion box:

Phyllus and Victoria-get a real job and stay out of your children's life for a while.

Tip the new hairstylist more so she gets rid of the stiff hairdos.

 

You got some really good points here.

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22 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Now we have to believe that the warden and prison guards didn’t notice Auntie Jordan looks different.  

And someone's gonna have some 'splainin to do when she dies.  As in how did Jordan contract this disease so quickly when her intake exam showed nothing? And just for the record, I refuse to believe anyone in that prison is dumb enough to be fooled by a prisoner switch.

 

On 12/20/2024 at 1:25 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Sigh, Tessa, you're going to feel so awful when you find out who "Warren" actually is. He played you like a piano.

I don't remember Tessa ever saying her wife's name and yet, "Warren" said something like "you and Mariah should be very proud/happy" (paraphrasing here.) Dun dun duuuun...

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3 minutes ago, Denize said:

I couldn't get on yesterday (my computer security blocked it) and now I see posts with double icons for each poster, with the message confined to a smaller box.

It wasn’t your computer. It was everyone’s! Or more precisely it was this site…again. I even tried different browsers and clearing my cache. When none of that worked I figured the site was down. 😝

45 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

Am I the only one having this problem: The right side of the screen is taken up with "Top Posters In This Topic" while all the comments are squished over to the left side - if it's just me, does anybody have any idea how I broke the screen, and how to fix it?

Not just you. The site was down all day yesterday and is still screwed up. 

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Thanks for all the helpful messages - things seem OK now so I'm guessing that whatever gremlins got into the system have been vanquished 🤞🤞🤞

On 12/21/2024 at 5:23 PM, MollyB said:

I refuse to believe anyone in that prison is dumb enough to be fooled by a prisoner switch.

You may not believe viewers of the show are dumb enough to believe that, but the writer(s) do - they think we'll swallow anything and ask for more.

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On 12/18/2024 at 10:26 PM, boes said:

I didn't always love the storylines they gave to Dina but always loved seeing her onscreen.

That's because Marla Adams was one of the better actors they have ever had on that show, and sadly, she may well have been the last of the better actors they've ever had on that show!

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If Phyllis is so upset about Heathers death why is she running around Society like a crazed stalker? Why is Michael foolishly discussing the case with the nutjob?
Aww Victor gifted Cole Victoria! Wonder if he’ll take it back when Jordan reappears? They did Claire one better and got her a real horsey! 
Golly gee, Sharon’s probably not a murderer. Let’s decorate the house for Christmas! Tessa and Mariah, no need to bring your little girl over. Christmas is about sitters working on Christmas Eve. Sappy medicated Sharon is back. I preferred the one that would yell at Daniel and Lucy at Crimson Lights.

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