S21.E17: Dance, Lies, and Videotape

[dttruman]

This description is from Googling "SVU season 21 episode 17 "Dance, Lies, and Videotape".

"An ingénue ballerina discovers she's been secretly videotaped for a pornographic website."

Cast info from Fandom for law & order: special victims unit season 21 episode 17, ""Dance, Lies, and Videotape

Main cast

Mariska Hargitay as Captain Olivia Benson

Kelli Giddish as Detective Amanda Rollins

Ice-T as Sergeant Odafin Tutuola

Peter Scanavino as A.D.A. Dominick Carisi, Jr.

Jamie Gray Hyder as Detective Katriona Tamin

Recurring cast

Ryan Buggle as Noah Porter-Benson

Ari'el Stachel as Sergeant Hasim Khaldun

Guest cast

Gabriella Ottersberg Enriquez as Beck Silva

Amber Barbee Pickens as Grace Pressley

Erik Gullberg as Physical Therapist

Ruby Singleton as Gala Attendee

Anthony Ciprani as Gala Member

Miguel Fana as Drug Dealer

[dttruman]

Well as you can see, we have a "Noah" sighting. I just wonder how much there will be of this "Noah" sighting?

[wknt3]

On 3/15/2020 at 6:45 PM, dttruman said:

Well as you can see, we have a "Noah" sighting. I just wonder how much there will be of this "Noah" sighting?

Hmmm. Maybe a couple brief scenes in the beginning at the end where they pound us over the head with a thematic link between the case and Noah's dance classes? Or maybe they can spread it out throughout the episode. Possibly the ballerina will be a teacher or participant in Noah's classes and that will be how Liv ends being there when the crime is discovered and is the one who takes her statement and acts like the primary on the case and not a commanding officer so we'll get a lot at the beginning and then maybe a tie in at the end. Or maybe we'll get super lucky and get all of the above! We haven't had nearly enough screentime for Noah this year. I mean Ice-T's had more airtime and we can't let that continue can we?

[dttruman]

34 minutes ago, wknt3 said:

Possibly the ballerina will be a teacher or participant in Noah's classes and that will be how Liv ends being there when the crime is discovered and is the one who takes her statement and acts like the primary on the case and not a commanding officer so we'll get a lot at the beginning and then maybe a tie in at the end

If this is set up that way, then Benson should be off the case because of Noah's ties to the teacher. But then again, how many times have these SVU members been personally involved in cases they were investigating?

[illdoc]

Quick heads up! Originally, SVU was going to be new (presumably this episode) on Mar 19 (this Thursday), but it's being bumped for a COVID-19 special.

[Xeliou66]

1 hour ago, illdoc said:

Quick heads up! Originally, SVU was going to be new (presumably this episode) on Mar 19 (this Thursday), but it's being bumped for a COVID-19 special.

Where are you getting this information from? 

[dttruman]

52 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

Where are you getting this information from? 

Just found this

https://www.nbc4i.com/community/health/coronavirus/lester-holt-to-anchor-nbc-news-special-report-coronavirus-pandemic/

[Xeliou66]

Yeah I see that it’s going to be another week before we get a new episode. That sucks. 

[meatball77]

😞  I was looking forward to this episode.  It's pulled from the headlines from the Alexandra Waterbury Vs NYCB/SAB lawsuit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/arts/dance/nyc-ballet-alexandra-waterbury.html

 

[dttruman]

On 3/19/2020 at 12:59 AM, meatball77 said:

😞  I was looking forward to this episode.  It's pulled from the headlines from the Alexandra Waterbury Vs NYCB/SAB lawsuit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/arts/dance/nyc-ballet-alexandra-waterbury.html

I wonder if they are going to do an actual investigation of this case or if it's something  just to set up another SVU crime?

I am a little confused with a couple of reports that have come out. Is this suppose to be the final episode of the season? If so, why does my TV guide say there is an episode called  "Garland's Baptism by Fire" and it's listed as episode 21, season 21 for next week. The peculiar thing about it is, that it's listed as a repeat.

[Xeliou66]

3 minutes ago, dttruman said:

I am a little confused with a couple of reports that have come out. Is this suppose to be the final episode of the season? If so, why does my TV guide say there is an episode called  "Garland's Baptism by Fire" and it's listed as episode 21, season 21 for next week. The peculiar thing about it is, that it's listed as a repeat.

No - there are 4 more episodes left this season, episode 20 will be the finale. Tonight we have this episode, then we have an episode called Garland’s Baptism by Fire, then we have an episode called Solving For the Unknowns, then the finale is called The Things We Have To Lose. 

[illdoc]

Episode title/listing confusion probably comes from the fact that this episode was supposed to air last week, the "Garland" episode was supposed to air this week, but "Dance" got bumped to this week, pushing "Garland" to next week.

[dttruman]

Looks like a slam dunk clash action lawsuit for the ladies at the beginning. The Ballet Co not providing a safe place for girls and so on.

Is this a private Ballet Co. or is it sponsored by the city of New York? If it's the later, then we definitely know that there is going to be a major investigation and some "heads will roll".

Edited March 27, 2020 by dttruman

[Xeliou66]

This was an average episode - I found myself somewhat bored in the first half, things were better in the second half with them figuring out how to arrest all involved. 

The storyline was decent, not great but not bad, there weren’t a lot of twists but it was still pretty well executed. 

Carisi was the best part of the episode as usual, he did a good job in his role as ADA and I’ve been pretty satisfied with how he’s done in the role. What was with Rollins snapping at him though? I just can’t stand Rollins, she’s so unprofessional.

No Fin sucked, it always does, he always adds life to the episodes that the others don’t bring.

On the positive side, I wasn’t annoyed with Benson at all, and the episode was absent of personal drama which was very nice, they worked in Khaldun in a good way without it getting soapy between him and Rollins, I like Khaldun and wouldn’t mind seeing him join the squad, SVU needs another member, the lack of depth to the cast showed once again with Fin absent. 

No Hadid was awesome, plus no Noah!! 

This was a decent, middle of the road episode, not great but not bad.

[The Wild Sow]

51 minutes ago, dttruman said:

Is this a private Ballet Co. or is it sponsored by the city of New York? If it's the later, then we definitely know that there is going to be a major investigation and some "heads will roll".

Apparently it’s “National” going by the dialog! 

And anybody not see the Big Dog (Alistair) being the Big Bad?

 

[dttruman]

It was an OK episode, but I don't know why they (the writers and producers) made the girls feel so helpless, when the unauthorized videos came out. IMO, they made Ashley and the others look as if they were elite professional athletes who only know their sport and would do anything to maintain that level. Even though most well adjusted athletes know their chances are very slim and they always have a plan "B" or a 2nd career. But then again, Benson wouldn't have had anyone to console or give a "pick me up" speech. The writers literally ignored what the girls could have got out the Ballet Co, monetarily and at the end mentioned that the guilty had a chance to get their jobs back by suing for wrongful termination. I think that would be a total farce, considering the times we are living in today.

Can you imagine all the wise cracks Fin could have used concerning this case, if they would have written him in. He would have had a field day. Well take the good with the bad. No Noah, No Fin.

On 3/26/2020 at 10:23 PM, The Wild Sow said:

Apparently it’s “National” going by the dialog! 

And anybody not see the Big Dog (Alistair) being the Big Bad?

Yeah, the "National" is ambiguous enough to sound big, so as to let NYC off the hook.

[jabRI]

I don't understand the credits, half the main characters aren't even mentioned, like Patrick Page.  And what drug dealer?

[Gigi43]

The episode was pretty bland, the big bad was so obvious. It felt slow. By the end of the episode I was sick of the phrase "boys in ballet"---we get it. 

 

The only time my blood really boiled was when Carisi couldn't do his job without Benson.

 

Garland better not go under any kind of bus my DVR cut off some of the promo. 

 

[dttruman]

1 hour ago, Gigi43 said:

The episode was pretty bland, the big bad was so obvious. It felt slow. By the end of the episode I was sick of the phrase "boys in ballet"---we get it. 

 

I was a little confused by that phrase "boys in ballet". Since there are so few of these boys in ballet, that they are given carte blanche and can do anything they want?

[Gigi43]

2 hours ago, dttruman said:

I was a little confused by that phrase "boys in ballet". Since there are so few of these boys in ballet, that they are given carte blanche and can do anything they want?

 

That's what I took from it.  

[wanderingstar]

4 hours ago, dttruman said:

I was a little confused by that phrase "boys in ballet". Since there are so few of these boys in ballet, that they are given carte blanche and can do anything they want?

When I heard the phrase, I thought of this article.

[Blakeston]

4 hours ago, dttruman said:

I was a little confused by that phrase "boys in ballet". Since there are so few of these boys in ballet, that they are given carte blanche and can do anything they want?

I think they mean that the men who run the major companies have all the power, and they  let their favored male dancers can get away with anything, because they're bros.

There are certainly more women dreaming of being ballet dancers than men, but at the same time there are lots of extremely talented men dying for a chance to dance for a national company. I don't think the issue is a lack of male talent.

[tennisgurl]

Kind of amazing that we haven't had an episode set in the ballet world before, it seems like Olivia's paradise! All of those pretty, young, mostly white women being victimized by a bunch of evil smug straight white guys who can get away with anything, who will start off fighting against her but will end up crying after a classic "Its not your fault what he did was rape" speech, this is her wheelhouse! And the villain behind it all was the rich white guy! So shocking! I mean, there was even a catchy little rhyme about straight guys abusing women! Look, I dont know a whole lot about ballet, but I do know some, and while it is a more female dominated profession where there are issues surrounding sexual harassment and there being a lot more male choreographers and board members than female ones, despite there usually being more female dancers, but I dont think there are so few male dancers in the world that they need to let these guys get away with literally anything to keep them around. There are plenty of male ballet dancers, I dont think its that hard to find more to replace pervs like these guys. Of course, this is one of the SVU "every straight guy is a predatory creeper" episodes, where not only is there a whole sexual abuse hierarchy among the straight men of this company, complete with auctioning off their prima for sex, but even random dads at a ballet class watch a video of their kids teacher having sex on a porn website on their phones, right in the middle of the class their kids are at! Classy.

Also, why are straight men the unicorns of  the ballet world, coveted above all else, what does being gay or straight (or bisexual, but that so rarely exists in this universe) have to do with dancing or being able to pick somebody up gracefully? Is it just homophobia? I guess they wanted to acknowledge that there are plenty of gay people in dance, but also wanted to make sure that they still had their crying straight girls and smug evil straight guys as the focus. 

Kat has acquired the standard "big sad eyes and condescending victim voice" that is standard after being in SVU for too long I see. 

Despite my complaining, this wasn't an awful episode or anything. The guest stars were pretty good, if not very memorable, no boring personal drama, and it was nice seeing Khaldun again, he is still a likable character and I actually like Rollins when they are together. Really, I am just disappointed because I feel like a ballet episode could have been a lot better than this, there is so much to do in a deep dive into the world of ballet at a major company, and this all just seemed rather dull. In the end, it wasn't even really about ballet and the unique skills that requires and its unique setting, it could have been almost any work place where people are desperate to keep their jobs and have an exploitative boss. It had potential, but ended up just being rather by the numbers.

Edited March 27, 2020 by tennisgurl

[rwlevin]

11 hours ago, dttruman said:

The writers literally ignored what the girls could have got out the Ballet Co, monetarily and at the end mentioned that the guilty had a chance to get their jobs back by suing for wrongful termination. I think that would be a total farce, considering the times we are living in today.

Actually that’s pretty much what happened in the real story. Amar Ramasar was fired and when the charges against him were dropped, he sued and was rehired. I mean, sure, nobody posted videos online but they still invaded women’s privacy.

[Blakeston]

1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

Also, why are straight men the unicorns of  the ballet world, coveted above all else, what does being gay or straight (or bisexual, but that so rarely exists in this universe) have to do with dancing or being able to pick somebody up gracefully? Is it just homophobia?

I don't know much about ballet, but I've seen that in the worlds of figure skating and gymnastics - sports traditionally thought of as "girly" - the straight men often go overboard to let everyone know how straight they are, and are surprisingly intolerant of the gays around them. Maybe it's the same phenomenon in ballet?

If that's what the writers were going for, they certainly didn't do a good job of explaining it. 

[meatball77]

Ballet as a profession is pretty odd and very sexist.  Girls outnumber boys by an absurd percentage as students but there are very few female choreographers, directors ect. . . of professional ballet companies.  The companies and schools are so desperate to keep these boys that they're given opportunities and allowed behavior that a girl never would be.  Ballet is also very structured and rigid and old fashioned (and typically filled with people with no education).  Old men telling girls how their body should be and girls expected to put up with all kinds of abuse because that's how you make a dancer.  Combined with dancers moving away from home in their teens (often totally unsupervised) to train.

In addition it's very small, so dancers don't feel like they can speak up.  Everyone knows everyone else and we all know abusers protect eachother.

If you read the entire NYCB scandal it's so wrong in so many ways that it's insane.  Maartins the director who physically and sexually abused many in the community (wasn't even a secret) didn't even get officially fired by the board and still controls choreography ect. . . . not just for NYCB but for companies around the world.

There was recently a scandal about abuse at one of the major schools in Europe, dancers being encouraged to smoke so they would lose weight, being called by their size.  Horribly abusive.

Which makes the episode dissapointing.  There is so much to draw from in the ballet world and they went with the age old selling/sponsoring the prima ballerina move (which was actually done until recently, probably is done now).  Investigating abuse at the ballet school would have been more interesting.

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by meatball77

[dttruman]

8 hours ago, meatball77 said:

  Ballet is also very structured and rigid and old fashioned (and typically filled with people with no education).  Old men telling girls how their body should be and girls expected to put up with all kinds of abuse because that's how you make a dancer.  Combined with dancers moving away from home in their teens (often totally unsupervised) to train.

In addition it's very small, so dancers don't feel like they can speak up.  Everyone knows everyone else and we all know abusers protect eachother.

I don't know how to ask this question without making the whole dance school system sound evil, manipulative, and systematic. So please don't anyone take offense to what I am about to ask.

When little girls start out in ballet or dance class are the instructors sort of "strict disciplinarians", because the different positions have to be precise and the girls lose focus very easily? In short, the kids are taught to conform easily and comply immediate. The kids who stick with the program into junior and senior high school, will they become easy targets for some of these sinister dance group companies and their lecherous choreographer and directors?

[meatball77]

You aren't wrong.  There is so much wrong with ballet.  Ballet is all about striving for perfection, so it's not just about doing the step it's about doing it perfectly.  Dancers learn young that if a teacher is tearing you apart it means they like you.

Classes for young kids are great, it's when dancers turn ten or eleven and start to be filtered into the serious group that things change.  My daughter spent a year at a russian studio and it was insane.  The discipline amd devotion that is expected combined with teachers not caring about a dancers emotional (and often long term physical) health is shocking.  My daughter is at a small school now and doesn't intend to try for a professional career even though she is talented enough to because of the exploitation that's so constant in the art.  Female dancers are disposable. 

Dancers start spending their summers away from home at eleven and many move to study at big company schools in their teens.  I have friends whose kids are living with random host families, in dorms where they are badly supervised and typically expected to cook for themselves or in apartments by themselves.  Most of these companies do not offer academic support, so the kids are homeschooling themselves.  They don't have a plan B because there is just no time for it.

If you attend a performance of a mid sized ballet company most of the dancers are working unpaid or even paying to be there and all but the top stars are thought of as disposable because there are 100 dancers who are willing to take a position.  Unlike in musical theater there is no one to tell you that you aren't good enough and you can't work another job while trying to get your big break, you need to be training full time.  A company will have 15-20 dancers in their company who are paid, from the corps members who are making 20K a year to their principals who are making 40 if they are lucky.  Then they'll have a second company, the dancers in the second company are maybe getting free pointe shoes and a stipend for performances.  Then a group of trainees who are paying tuition but expected to work the same hours as the paid dancers.

[Irate Panda]

23 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

 even random dads at a ballet class watch a video of their kids teacher having sex on a porn website on their phones, right in the middle of the class their kids are at! Classy.

This part had me really wondering about this show anymore.  Even if they just had one perv dad looking at the video, but it was like every dad there watching porn like you said right in front of their children in the middle of class!  

[The Wild Sow]

On 3/27/2020 at 8:49 AM, jabRI said:

I don't understand the credits, half the main characters aren't even mentioned, like Patrick Page.  And what drug dealer?

Looks like IMDB has corrected the cast list.  I was thinking "where the heck is John Waters??" (the Pornmonger guy.) He and Patrick Page are there now.   I suspect "drug dealer," et al, are on a different ep.

[rwlevin]

14 hours ago, dttruman said:

When little girls start out in ballet or dance class are the instructors sort of "strict disciplinarians", because the different positions have to be precise and the girls lose focus very easily?

From my memory, no. It’s something fun to do and that age, all you’re really doing is pointing your toes and doing plies. It’s when girls go through puberty that things change. Through nobody’s fault, girls that are amazing dancers are pretty much told they will never become professional just because they’ve developed hips and grown breasts. If you’ve ever noticed, there are no curvy ballerinas. That’s also why so many girls develop eating disorders. There was a story several years ago where the review of The Nutcracker said it looked like the Sugar Plum Fairy had eaten too many sugar plums. The woman was recovering from anorexia! 
 

So yeah, that part of the episode was sadly accurate too.

[Kel Varnsen]

4 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

This part had me really wondering about this show anymore.  Even if they just had one perv dad looking at the video, but it was like every dad there watching porn like you said right in front of their children in the middle of class!  

I didn't quite buy that the video would go viral so fast. With so much porn out there what were the odds of a parent just happening to find it.

Also why exactly was the video released. Based on the second half of the episode the company boss had pretty specific rules for what happens and when videos are leaked based on his pimping of dancers. But this one seemed to be leaked for no reason.

[ChristiKRN]

4 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

I didn't quite buy that the video would go viral so fast. With so much porn out there what were the odds of a parent just happening to find it.

Also why exactly was the video released. Based on the second half of the episode the company boss had pretty specific rules for what happens and when videos are leaked based on his pimping of dancers. But this one seemed to be leaked for no reason.

I just got around to watching this episode and I had the same thoughts about the episode.  

No Benson pep talk at the end! She couldn’t  even muster a  “Hey, there’s new porn coming out every day; your video will be forgotten in no time!”.  I’m surprised there was no mention of Noah with an episode about dancing. 

It was an ok episode but predictable.  Who didn’t call that Alistair was behind everything from the beginning?  Lol- why didn’t Alistair start sweating profusely, shaking uncontrollably, pee himself, etc simultaneously  when Benson introduced herself if Barba spoke of Benson? Barba obviously didn’t tell him that not only is she tenacious but can cause a person to become a shell of their former self.  

[dttruman]

On 3/28/2020 at 8:36 PM, Kel Varnsen said:

I didn't quite buy that the video would go viral so fast. With so much porn out there what were the odds of a parent just happening to find it.

Also why exactly was the video released. Based on the second half of the episode the company boss had pretty specific rules for what happens and when videos are leaked based on his pimping of dancers. But this one seemed to be leaked for no reason.

 

On 3/29/2020 at 1:30 AM, ChristiKRN said:

I just got around to watching this episode and I had the same thoughts about the episode.  

Me also. Sometimes they just bend the rules of storytelling far too much. Why do they keep expecting us to buy absurd series of events like this one. Are they just trying to cater to their fanatic core of viewers? If so, then I wouldn't be surprised if many dance teachers are getting calls from parents of their students, wanting a more detailed background check on their credentials.

On 3/28/2020 at 6:36 PM, The Wild Sow said:

  I was thinking "where the heck is John Waters??" (the Pornmonger guy.)

I really don't blame IMdB for that kind of mistake. John Waters was only used for at most a minute. It's funny though, how they spotlighted him in the preview. You would have thought he was going to be one of the main antagonist in the episode.

[Kel Varnsen]

2 hours ago, dttruman said:

 

Me also. Sometimes they just bend the rules of storytelling far too much. Why do they keep expecting us to buy absurd series of events like this one. Are they just trying to cater to their fanatic core of viewers? If so, then I wouldn't be surprised if many dance teachers are getting calls from parents of their students, wanting a more detailed background check on their credentials.

The fact that the first victim did a search for something kind of generic like ballerina porn and one of the first results was actually her video kind of made me laugh.

9 hours ago, ChristiKRN said:

I'm surprised there was no mention of Noah with an episode about dancing. 

I really thought the ending would be Olivia offering the dancer a job giving Noah private dance lessons and that would be all it would take to cheer her up and remind her how much she loves ballet.

[Tyler]

A couple commenters beat me to it - what was more absurd?

A bunch of dads all watching pornhub at a kiddie ballet class?

OR

The dancer finding her video after only five seconds of Googling?  Doesn't access to sites like that require some effort, like a paywall and age verification?  I presume she didn't have an account so she knew her boyfriend's log-in credentials?

 

[dttruman]

When (I think) Alister mention that Barba spoke highly of Benson, I think that's a clue for Barba to make a special appearance for the 20th episode.

On 3/29/2020 at 10:55 AM, Kel Varnsen said:

I really thought the ending would be Olivia offering the dancer a job giving Noah private dance lessons and that would be all it would take to cheer her up and remind her how much she loves ballet.

Now that has some realism in it. Simple, effective, and Benson doesn't have to touch her belly.

[wknt3]

On 3/26/2020 at 11:23 PM, Xeliou66 said:

This was an average episode - I found myself somewhat bored in the first half, things were better in the second half with them figuring out how to arrest all involved. 

The storyline was decent, not great but not bad, there weren’t a lot of twists but it was still pretty well executed. 

Carisi was the best part of the episode as usual, he did a good job in his role as ADA and I’ve been pretty satisfied with how he’s done in the role. What was with Rollins snapping at him though? I just can’t stand Rollins, she’s so unprofessional.

No Fin sucked, it always does, he always adds life to the episodes that the others don’t bring.

On the positive side, I wasn’t annoyed with Benson at all, and the episode was absent of personal drama which was very nice, they worked in Khaldun in a good way without it getting soapy between him and Rollins, I like Khaldun and wouldn’t mind seeing him join the squad, SVU needs another member, the lack of depth to the cast showed once again with Fin absent. 

No Hadid was awesome, plus no Noah!! 

This was a decent, middle of the road episode, not great but not bad.

Just got around to watching this now and this pretty much sums up my thoughts. Not sure I'm going to be able to participate in next week's discussion either. I've been up to my crotch in crocodiles at work trying to keep various small businesses afloat and getting ready for the new SBA loan program coming online so it looks like I may be on the Ice-T schedule for a bit, popping in for a snarky line or two every so often and missing entire episodes while I work on other projects. I guess the show will still be around when things calm down. Heck it looks like it may still be going when I retire!

Edited April 2, 2020 by wknt3

[ChristiKRN]

3 hours ago, wknt3 said:

Just got around to watching this now and this pretty much sums up my thoughts. Not sure I'm going to be able to participate in next week's discussion either. I've been up to my crotch in crocodiles at work trying to keep various small businesses afloat and getting ready for the new SBA loan program coming online so it looks like I may be on the Ice-T schedule for a bit, popping in for a snarky line or two every so often and missing entire episodes while I work on other projects. I guess the show will still be around when things calm down. Heck it looks like it may still be going when I retire!

I did miss your review this past week but thank you for your hard work during this extraordinarily difficult time for small business owners and their employees.  

Edited April 2, 2020 by ChristiKRN

[dttruman]

14 hours ago, ChristiKRN said:

18 hours ago, wknt3 said:

Just got around to watching this now and this pretty much sums up my thoughts. Not sure I'm going to be able to participate in next week's discussion either. I've been up to my crotch in crocodiles at work trying to keep various small businesses afloat and getting ready for the new SBA loan program coming online so it looks like I may be on the Ice-T schedule for a bit, popping in for a snarky line or two every so often and missing entire episodes while I work on other projects. I guess the show will still be around when things calm down. Heck it looks like it may still be going when I retire!

I did miss your review this past week but thank you for your hard work during this extraordinarily difficult time for small business owners and their employees.

Double Ditto that!!

[wknt3]

18 hours ago, ChristiKRN said:

I did miss your review this past week but thank you for your hard work during this extraordinarily difficult time for small business owners and their employees.  

 

3 hours ago, dttruman said:

Double Ditto that!!

Thanks guys. I actually feel lucky compared with those who are out of work or those who are on the front lines in the medical field and we have been able to do something to feel like we are making a difference for both businesses and individuals (while my boss has been focusing almost exclusively on businesses I've been dealing with our individual clients as well, but it has been a bit less time consuming as there are fewer moving parts and usually the deadlines are a bit more flexible) Just got off of a conference call on Payroll Protection and expecting to get to the branch by 6 tomorrow. I would just ask everyone dealing with delivery people, bankers, grocery store employees, and everyone trying to keep things going who wants to show their appreciation to not be a Benson and think your personal needs trump the rules and everyone following rules and procedures is evil, or a Rollins and think a bad break means you don't have to take personal responsibility or that you can judge people harshly based on their jobs. Be a Fin and just be straightforward and do your part. Or better yet a Carisi - we could all use some optimism!

[dttruman]

2 hours ago, wknt3 said:

Benson and think your personal needs trump the rules and everyone following rules and procedures is evil, or a Rollins and think a bad break means you don't have to take personal responsibility or that you can judge people harshly based on their jobs. Be a Fin and just be straightforward and do your part. Or better yet a Carisi - we could all use some optimism!

Bottom line, A mixture of common sense and some empathy for others.

[ChristiKRN]

3 hours ago, dttruman said:

Bottom line, A mixture of common sense and some empathy for others.

Double ditto!! (I stole this from your earlier post😁)

I'm just getting back to work being off for 3 months after surgery and just working half days/light duty to ease me back in.  We are just starting to see a few COVID 19 positive patients at the hospital I work for.  Everyone, please follow the guidelines and stay healthy.  This virus is the real deal, unfortunately. 

6 hours ago, wknt3 said:

 

Thanks guys. I actually feel lucky compared with those who are out of work or those who are on the front lines in the medical field and we have been able to do something to feel like we are making a difference for both businesses and individuals (while my boss has been focusing almost exclusively on businesses I've been dealing with our individual clients as well, but it has been a bit less time consuming as there are fewer moving parts and usually the deadlines are a bit more flexible) Just got off of a conference call on Payroll Protection and expecting to get to the branch by 6 tomorrow. I would just ask everyone dealing with delivery people, bankers, grocery store employees, and everyone trying to keep things going who wants to show their appreciation to not be a Benson and think your personal needs trump the rules and everyone following rules and procedures is evil, or a Rollins and think a bad break means you don't have to take personal responsibility or that you can judge people harshly based on their jobs. Be a Fin and just be straightforward and do your part. Or better yet a Carisi - we could all use some optimism!

Great analogies!!  How about being  a Finisi??

[dttruman]

 

5 hours ago, ChristiKRN said:

Double ditto!! (I stole this from your earlier post😁)

My lawyer will be calling to discuss a settlement for copyright infridgement, so have your checkbook ready.

 

6 hours ago, ChristiKRN said:

I'm just getting back to work being off for 3 months after surgery and just working half days/light duty to ease me back in.  We are just starting to see a few COVID 19 positive patients at the hospital I work for.  Everyone, please follow the guidelines and stay healthy.  This virus is the real deal, unfortunately. 

Hey, you better look out for yourself as well as the patients, I mean it!!

[ChristiKRN]

8 hours ago, dttruman said:

 

My lawyer will be calling to discuss a settlement for copyright infridgement, so have your checkbook ready.

 

Hey, you better look out for yourself as well as the patients, I mean it!!

Lol- are you just saying that so you get your check for copyright infringement?