Glory October 25, 2019 Share October 25, 2019 I thought it might be nice to have a media thread - Just a couple of articles to start. Wheel of Time adds new cast member Tableread YouTube Video by Nae'blis on "what we know so far" (contains book spoilers) Link to comment
SVNBob November 15, 2019 Share November 15, 2019 Per Tor.com, the writers are already working on season 2, before Amazon makes any announcement about there being a season 2. https://www.tor.com/2019/11/14/it-looks-like-the-wheel-of-time-writers-are-already-working-on-season-2/ Link to comment
Danny Franks November 15, 2019 Share November 15, 2019 Hopefully this is just because Amazon really like the dailies they've been seeing, and the scripts they've got, and not just because they're trying to compete with HBO's GoT prequel, and Netflix's The Witcher. I don't know quite how they're going to pace all this, but I'd want the climax of book two to be the end of a second season. It's a real high point for the series, in the early books. Link to comment
Glory December 4, 2019 Author Share December 4, 2019 MORE CASTING! Thom! Padan Fain! Loial! Logain! https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/wheel-of-time-series-amazon-alvaro-morte-hammed-animashaun-alexandre-willaume-johann-myers-1203424343/ 1 Link to comment
DearEvette December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, Glory said: MORE CASTING! Thom! Padan Fain! Loial! Logain! https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/wheel-of-time-series-amazon-alvaro-morte-hammed-animashaun-alexandre-willaume-johann-myers-1203424343/ Oh man, those look ... really good. I mean, they look like I think they should look like. After the main cast was first announced, I was most curious about Lan. Very happy about that casting as well. Now I am curious about Elaida 1 Link to comment
DoctorAtomic December 4, 2019 Share December 4, 2019 I hope Logain's stache falls off when he's gentled. He looks good though. Link to comment
Glory December 5, 2019 Author Share December 5, 2019 18 hours ago, DearEvette said: Oh man, those look ... really good. I mean, they look like I think they should look like. After the main cast was first announced, I was most curious about Lan. Very happy about that casting as well. Now I am curious about Elaida Yes, they all look amazing! I wasn't sure if they were going to do Loial so I'm excited to see how he turns out. I have such a vivid picture of him in my mind. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic December 5, 2019 Share December 5, 2019 I really don't recognize any of these actors, and I think that's a positive. People are going to have a picture of what they think the characters look like and casting someone reasonably well known might just prove distracting. To flip it though, if they decide to go with just a voice for the Dark One, I think it should be someone well known because you can really chew it up. Link to comment
Danny Franks December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 So Loial is going to be in the adaptation. Interesting. I had been wondering whether they'd cut him, given his SFX-heavy appearance and the fact that he doesn't really do a whole lot that can't be farmed out to other characters. The actor has a very distinctive face, to put it kindly, and I can see how he could be made up to look like an Ogier. Fain's actor looks like he does creepy very well, so that will fit. I don't know about the guy playing Thom (another character I wasn't sure would survive the adaptation), but if they're making him a bit more rugged and handsome, I can understand it. Who are we waiting on now? Min, Elayne, Galad, Gawyn, Morgase and Elaida? I'm still holding out hope that they get Ken Watanabe as Lord Agelmar. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 I imagined Loial was more of an expository character. Plus if they make all the '4th age' quotes like as title cards, you can have everyone seeing he's being the 'historian of the end of the age'. The stedding itself is important. I also think much of his plot could be cut beyond just that. Wasn't he important with regards to knowledge of the Ways? How did they know how to count ages? Link to comment
DearEvette December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Danny Franks said: The actor has a very distinctive face, to put it kindly, and I can see how he could be made up to look like an Ogier. Oh, I agree. I also looked him up and from the photos I've seen (he's mostly a theatre actor) he seems to be tall/imposing. He basically towers over everyone else in the photos. So Maybe he was cast as Loial because of size as well. 1 Link to comment
SVNBob December 24, 2019 Share December 24, 2019 More casting news. On 12/6/2019 at 5:48 AM, Danny Franks said: Who are we waiting on now? Min, Elayne, Galad, Gawyn, Morgase and Elaida? None of these, but an important figure nonetheless: Alanna and her two Warders (although it seems they changed the name of one.) 1 Link to comment
Anduin March 13, 2020 Share March 13, 2020 Filming shut down. Coronavirus. No word on when it'll pick up again. Adam Whitehead thinks they have enough material for a shorter season, unless trouble hits the postproduction facilities. Link to comment
rove4 April 22, 2020 Share April 22, 2020 On 12/24/2019 at 2:28 AM, SVNBob said: More casting news. None of these, but an important figure nonetheless: Alanna and her two Warders (although it seems they changed the name of one.) Hmmmm, I've just finished reading the first two books in the series...well, like a month ago so maybe some of the details are already getting fuzzy but I don't recall these characters. I can see forgetting some Warders' names but seems like an Aes Sedai would stand out more. I just don't remember Alanna. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic April 22, 2020 Share April 22, 2020 She's around a lot. That's not surprising she was cast. Link to comment
Black Knight April 30, 2020 Share April 30, 2020 As the discussion has drifted from Alanna's casting to more general speculation of how the show will adapt the books, I have moved several posts to the brand-new Book to Show thread. Speculate away there! Link to comment
Anduin May 14, 2020 Share May 14, 2020 Adam Whitehead has good news. Essentially, the Czech Republic is getting back to life. Filming can resume. However, the cast and crew need to be extracted first. But like I said about LOTR, Jeff Bezos is the world's richest person. He could arrange private cars and private planes for cast and crew. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic August 19, 2020 Share August 19, 2020 I don't know if I'm behind, but my FB feed is showing a bunch of casting news. Link to comment
DearEvette August 19, 2020 Share August 19, 2020 Oh man, I just saw they cast Sophie Okenodo as Siuan Sanche Eep!!! Also Kae Alexander as Min. Not familiar with her, but she looks like she could be Min. Link to comment
Danny Franks August 20, 2020 Share August 20, 2020 I like the Suian casting. Sophie Okonedo looks ageless anyway, and she has a regal quality that fits Suian. Not convinced about Kae Alexander. She just doesn't seem like Min to me. In my mind, someone like Rosabell Laurenti Sayers was the perfect choice. So of the major characters who are introduced in book one, we're just waiting for Elayne and her family. I like the diversity in the casting of the show, but I feel like they need to stick to the book versions as closely as possible, with the Trakands, for various canon reasons. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic August 20, 2020 Share August 20, 2020 That's a fair. Elayne certainly has a look. Sophie Okenodo is a heavy hitter. I was way impressed. And I guess our discussion about whether Min is going to be in it or not is over. 1 Link to comment
DearEvette August 20, 2020 Share August 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Danny Franks said: So of the major characters who are introduced in book one, we're just waiting for Elayne and her family. I like the diversity in the casting of the show, but I feel like they need to stick to the book versions as closely as possible, with the Trakands, for various canon reasons. I do agree with this. Elayne's appearance (and the other Trakands) --- having that red-gold-blonde hair , blue eyes -- is as specific to her look and character as Egwene having a braid in the early books. 1 Link to comment
DoctorAtomic August 20, 2020 Share August 20, 2020 Well, we need our braid tugging. 1 Link to comment
DoctorAtomic September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 All the Changes Coming to The Wheel of Time Television Series I very much object to 'less braid tugging', but otherwise, these seem like practicalities in adopting a 70 gajillion page series to television. I'm hardly a purist, however. 1 Link to comment
Anduin September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 12:35 AM, DoctorAtomic said: All the Changes Coming to The Wheel of Time Television Series I very much object to 'less braid tugging', but otherwise, these seem like practicalities in adopting a 70 gajillion page series to television. I'm hardly a purist, however. Recent photos of Zoe Robins show she has dreadlocks. Maybe she'll tug one of those instead? Or maybe she's changed her hairstyle. Link to comment
Black Knight September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 There'll probably be one actress tugging once early on as a nod to readers of the books, and that'll be it. No actress wants to have her performance burdened with a tic that's not even true to life. It was cartoonish even in the books, where people only read about it instead of seeing it, and wouldn't work at all on TV. No surprise that Rand/Elayne/Min/Aviendha will be polyamory instead of polygamy. I wonder if they'll only do that by involving the women with each other, or if any of the women will be allowed to have an outside male lover. Or they could do both, by having Elayne and Aviendha be more than friends, while Min has another male love interest. She was always kinda the fourth one in the quad. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Black Knight said: I wonder if they'll only do that by involving the women with each other, or if any of the women will be allowed to have an outside male lover. You have the women Aiel having a bunch of husbands, so you can cover that aspect. I'd be wondering who Elayne and Av would be hooking up with. Oh, you do have the Greens getting down with male Warders, so you can have that early on too. Link to comment
Anduin October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Black Knight said: There'll probably be one actress tugging once early on as a nod to readers of the books, and that'll be it. No actress wants to have her performance burdened with a tic that's not even true to life. It was cartoonish even in the books, where people only read about it instead of seeing it, and wouldn't work at all on TV. Yeah, having to copy someone else's body language is probably fun for a bodyswap episode, or a biopic movie, but not for a whole series. Given we got a teaser a few weeks back, I hope there's more news soon. Maybe there is news, but I'm not obsessive about tracking down like LOTR. Apparently filming has resumed, so that's a good sign. Link to comment
Danny Franks October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 15 hours ago, Black Knight said: No surprise that Rand/Elayne/Min/Aviendha will be polyamory instead of polygamy. I wonder if they'll only do that by involving the women with each other, or if any of the women will be allowed to have an outside male lover. Or they could do both, by having Elayne and Aviendha be more than friends, while Min has another male love interest. She was always kinda the fourth one in the quad. My thought on that is to have Min and Elayne get involved with each other while they're in the White Tower, then each be able to more openly discuss the idea of being with Rand, but it's Aviendha and her Aiel customs that bring the solution they need. I don't know about another male lover. It might fit Min, with her being older and more experienced (though she admits to herself in the books that she's never had sex before) but probably not Elayne and definitely not Aviendha (who said she had never had any interest in men or romance, she just wanted to be a Maiden). What I would do is revise the Aiel customs so that there are brother-husbands as well as sister-wives, because there's no reason why not. The 'sister-wives have sex too' idea is suggested obliquely in the books, but Jordan never outright says it. There are a couple of occasions where Elayne and Egwene assume that's how it works, and I think Rand observes at one point that Amys and Lian are just as loving with each other as they are with Rhuarc. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 There's no real plot point to Min being a virgin either. So she could be hooking up while she's at the Carhein library and Rand is popping in and out. I applaud their efforts and am 100% in support, but it's not going to make or break the show for me. Link to comment
formerlyfreedom October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 Just a reminder - this is the topic for media and news about the show; if you want to keep the discussion going on the adaption from the book, the Book to Show topic is the appropriate place. Thanks! Link to comment
Anduin October 28, 2020 Share October 28, 2020 Audio teaser! I link to this version, because Madeleine Madden confirms it was her. I thought so! Aussie accents are often a lot less broad than the fake ones that appear in foreign TV and movies. However, I thought everyone would be doing English accents, like fantasy TV and movies have conditioned us to think. Still, it's nice to be wrong in this case. 🙂 Link to comment
Anduin November 6, 2020 Share November 6, 2020 Not good. Word is there's been a second corona outbreak in the Czech Republic, with a second break in filming. On the bright side, Madeleine Madden is back in Oz. Furthermore, the Aussie internal barriers are coming down soon. She may be able to dravel within Australia and find some more work until it's time to head back to Europe. If the first season isn't properly finished filming, I wonder if Lord of the Rings will be up first. I'd like that. However, I remember way back in 2011. There was a King Arther show, Camelot. It was all right. I watched the first four episodes. But then it had a break. In that break were the first two episodes of Game of Thrones. Made Camelot look pretty bad in comparison. I didn't finish ep 5. Maybe the editors will do some magic, and/or the director will remotely get Rosamund Pike to stand in front of a green screen and deliver some exposition. But Britain isn't going well either. Possibly Madden, or Zoe Robins in New Zealand. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic December 3, 2020 Share December 3, 2020 Amazon's Wheel of Time Will Take a Blended Approach to the Series' Many Stories That's about all there is to the article. I tend to agree though. I have a feeling a massive amount (rightly) is going to be excised from the books to make a coherent television program. Link to comment
Danny Franks December 6, 2020 Share December 6, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 5:20 PM, DoctorAtomic said: Amazon's Wheel of Time Will Take a Blended Approach to the Series' Many Stories That's about all there is to the article. I tend to agree though. I have a feeling a massive amount (rightly) is going to be excised from the books to make a coherent television program. There's a lot that can be taken out, but also stuff that can be added for more context - for example, Moiraine's POV in the Two Rivers, Lan's POV as he gets to know Nynaeve etc. Being introduced to the Aiel in the Waste before they cross the Dragonwall would be interesting too, and seeing more of the Darkfriends' and Black Ajah's POV. There are some bits of the first book that can be changed because they're not consistent with the rest of the series - Moiraine using a staff, for example - but if they cut out Rand meeting the Trakands (who haven't had any casting announcements yet) I'll be quite annoyed. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic December 6, 2020 Share December 6, 2020 I had a good laugh on the WOT FB page where that was posted - everyone was like, 'oh yeah, they have to get rid of a lot'. No one really is a 'purist', like refusing to watch because Bombadil was cut out or somethine. One post was like, 'oh just get rid of the Whitecloaks entirely'. Link to comment
DoctorAtomic March 20, 2021 Share March 20, 2021 That's not how she sounded in my head, but nbd. I doubt any of them will. I kind of hope Mat and Ny do because they swear so much. Link to comment
Anduin April 3, 2021 Share April 3, 2021 Madeline Madden is on a plane! I suspect she's heading back for filming WOT. But here's the thing. She's been home for five months. I know that because she made a post about being released from quarantine back then. I wonder if all filming has been stopped in that period, or if small units did a bit here and there. Neither Rafe Judkins or Rosamund Pike have said anything. I don't follow the other cast and crew on social media. Anyone else? Link to comment
AnimeMania May 1, 2021 Share May 1, 2021 Czech Republic Touts Production Return: ‘Wheel Of Time’, ‘Carnival Row’, ‘Dangerous Liaisons’, ‘The Gray Man’ Among Host Of Shoots This suggests that they are almost finished filming the first Season and then will immediately start to film the 2nd Season. Link to comment
AnimeMania May 19, 2021 Share May 19, 2021 REPORT: Amazon's Wheel of Time Wraps Filming on Season 1 First season is a wrap. It is possible that the show might air sometime in November-December when a new edition of The Wheel of Time books is scheduled to be released. 1 Link to comment
DoctorAtomic May 19, 2021 Share May 19, 2021 That would be smart. You'd want new viewers to pick up the books. Well, it should be interesting. Link to comment
Danny Franks May 19, 2021 Share May 19, 2021 I believe I read something the other day that suggested a November release was being planned. The hype for this series is very, very... non-existent at the moment. I hope Amazon go on a publicity spree over the next few months because, while this will be a very different show to Game of Thrones, it should still be seen as a flagship show for the Prime streaming service. One problem they're going to have is a distinct lack of sex in the early books. It's almost expected now that these prestige shows will be packed with boobs, bums and bonking, but unless the show makes some significant changes, there won't be any sex until season four or five. I've been listening to The Wheel Weaves podcast, hosted by a husband and wife, one of whom is a big fan of the books and the other is a new reader, and it's great fun. But one thing it's made very clear - Robert Jordan was stolen from as much as he stole from Tolkien. Dani, the new reader, is constantly noticing things that GRRM used, and that JK Rowling used. Ideas taken almost wholesale and recycled. I know GRRM has been very upfront about how much of an influence Robert Jordan was, but Rowling certainly hasn't. Link to comment
Anduin May 19, 2021 Share May 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Danny Franks said: One problem they're going to have is a distinct lack of sex in the early books. It's almost expected now that these prestige shows will be packed with boobs, bums and bonking, but unless the show makes some significant changes, there won't be any sex until season four or five. I want the story to be told how the story should be told. If that means no nudity, I'm fine with that. Look at the Mandalorian. Not only did Pascal not get naked, he was completely armoured the whole time. I don't remember even a fanservice character. And everyone raved about the show. My biggest concern, from what little I've read, the women feel... odd. Not in any way I can place, but odd nonetheless. I want them to feel normal, if that makes any sense. Link to comment
Danny Franks May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anduin said: I want the story to be told how the story should be told. If that means no nudity, I'm fine with that. Look at the Mandalorian. Not only did Pascal not get naked, he was completely armoured the whole time. I don't remember even a fanservice character. And everyone raved about the show. My biggest concern, from what little I've read, the women feel... odd. Not in any way I can place, but odd nonetheless. I want them to feel normal, if that makes any sense. I'm fine with no sex (there's bags of non-sexual nudity in the books, because Jordan definitely had his kinks, most of which can be cut from the show) but it still makes the marketing of the show that much more challenging, especially if people start comparing it to bad recent fantasy shows like The Shannara Chronicles or Cursed. People often call out Robert Jordan's women, but I rarely see any issues with them. People often really reach to try and claim all his female characters are samey and shallow and badly written, but they usually just focus on one or two and then try to say every woman in the series is like that. I've seen him accused of writing all women as simpering idiots, of writing them as overbearing bullies, as know-it-alls and fools, gossips and secret keepers. So I don't know, I find it tough to give much credence to so many disparate arguments. I tend to focus on the fact that Jordan was writing a world where an order of magic-wielding women have effectively ruled for three thousand years, and the members of that order have a tendency to throw their weight around whenever it suits them. That seems to be realistic to me. It doesn't mean Jordan always succeeded in writing them well, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some people insist. Meanwhile, GRRM gets praised for writing women well but he's the guy who wrote a scene where a thirteen year old girl is raped and enjoys it, so.... Edited May 20, 2021 by Danny Franks Link to comment
paulvdb May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 Amazon Studios Greenlights Season 2 of World-Spanning Fantasy Series "The Wheel of Time" Link to comment
Black Knight May 21, 2021 Share May 21, 2021 Gentle Reminder: Talk about how the books will be adapted is better suited for Book to Show: Which Way Will They Go? Link to comment
SnarkShark June 4, 2021 Share June 4, 2021 I just assumed this got Pandemiced and we'd never see it. Instead it got... renewed. The Wheel Of Time’ Renewed For Season 2 By Amazon Ahead Of Launch Link to comment
Anduin June 4, 2021 Share June 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, SnarkShark said: I just assumed this got Pandemiced and we'd never see it. Instead it got... renewed. The Wheel Of Time’ Renewed For Season 2 By Amazon Ahead Of Launch It's been rough, because of shooting in the Czech Republic, which is having issues. Still, they're getting it done. Also, the nature of effects-driven TV these days means you have to get cracking on the next season early. Link to comment
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