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Regarding the timing of Bethenney going after Ramona, this is where I think B leaving out details of her life does her a disservice. I don't follow B outside of the show, but some here have mentioned she broke up with her boyfriend during this season. When B went off on Ramona I wondered if this scene was around the time of the breakup and she was on edge. Does anyone know the real timing? I'm not saying B's points didn't have merit. Just that sometimes personal issues can come into play and small arguments can become big blow ups and I wonder if that happened here. Some additional context would have been helpful.

I enjoyed seeing Elie Tahari. His clothes are beautiful and he comes across as very charming and genuine.

I thought the clothes were terrible. If I were Sonja, I wouldn't brag about it taking me years and years to do what others do in a matter of months.

Question for those of you who think Vicki and Brooks are in on a fake cancer scam. I can see Brooks having a reason, but what do you think Vicki's motivation is? The only thing I can think of is storyline, but being the OG I don't think she'd risk being on the show by telling such a huge lie. I think she tells small to medium lies all the time, :)

Ramona's response to her "date" biz partner's statement that his marriage ended because his wife didn't like him dating during their marriage shocked me. She goes on and on about being devastated about Mario cheating, but her date says he's a cheater and she just laughs and continues flirting with him. So, to Ramona cheating is funny unless the cheater is married to her?! What a fucking idiot she is.

I remember it slightly differently. They were both employed in the midwest, he got a big promotion and when they moved to CA she didn't work or did very little for pin money. Then he got laid off and that is when she kicked it into high gear and worked full time. Donn even said his reasoning for requesting spousal support was because he had supported her for years. Does anyone here know what, if anything, he actually got? It always cracks me up that she harps about financial security for everyone. On another forum someone went thru the divorce filings in detail and said that there was a lot of money, but also a lot of debt and when you netted out the debt she is actually worth very, very little. Her business is practically worthless because there aren't any hard assets, the value is based on future sales so its just her rolodex that is worth anything and was valued around $50K. I'm sure Meg and Jim have a prenup and wonder if Meg will be worth more than Vicki in the event of a divorce because of the payout.

The moment Kristen disclosed Lu's ONS was married was the aha moment for me about what she is mad about. Harkens back to the day when Ro accused Lu of cheating on the Count. Lu does not want people to think the Countess has no regard for marriage. I was suprised Dorinda wanted to go dancing after her meltdown. Meltdowns are exhausting!! That and her going from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds makes me wonder if she is on something? Maybe doesn't go with alcohol? I liked Dorinda in the beginning, but I'm not seeing anything likeable anymore. Heather's reaction has been discussed ad nauseum, but I'll still add my 2 cents :) I think she was startled and scared. Then she tries to talk to Dorinda, Ro and Sonya; and they are all indifferent. I imagine after being startled her heart was racing and then the others not acknowledging anything about the situation amped it up. I wonder if any of the ladies had said "I get that you were scared because you just woke up and found a stranger in the house, but it's not a big deal because we met him last nite" how things would have gone? I'm not sure if the chef was the same, but last week he wasn't wearing a ring and this week he was. A lot of chefs don't wear rings for sanitary reasons. Is that his norm but he thought, "screw it! with these crazies the ring is going on!"

I watched on FYI and didn't see Sean address it. Did I miss it or was it on A&E?

Embarrassed for Jac that the "experts" kept begging for a second chance for Ryan, but Ryan didn't. They seem better off as just friends. I think she'll come out of this fine as she was classy till the end. Lots of people will want to set her up with their brothers and guy friends. First time I've seen Kevin and thought he was a very good host, waaaaaay better than Andy Cohen.

Regarding Briana saying Brooks didn't look sick, I'm witholding comment until we hear from Briana. Vicki has been known to alter things to suit her needs or take it completely out of context. Or it could be shades of the truth, like Briana saying "are you sure he's on that protocol? he doesn't look that sick".

LOL!!!!!!!

Does anyone know when filming began? I'm guessing Shannon meant April 2014 when she found out about the affair, but I'm not clear. I do appreciate her giving an accurate and honest portrayal of her marriage compared to the other HW BS (yes, I'm talking about you Ramona on RHONY). But, now that I understand where they are I don't need to see it every episode. They both seem very unhappy and have been for awhile so I hope they can get to a happy place whether it is together or apart. Ugh on the new girl. Whoever said shades of Alexis and Jim relationship upthread makes a good comparison. I don't want to see the constant belittling of anyone's spouse on TV. Regarding Brook's cancer, isn't this like the third time he's had it? I seem to remember it being in the tabloids, etc for years.

ITA. I get that she doesn't have a mean bone in her body like others have said, but she doesn't have a kind or gracious one either. It is all about Sonja, all the time. "whose butt was that, presented full camera, in the black thong with sheer overlay?" That was Sonja. I'm suprised that wasn't edited out. Really inappropriate for Bravo to show.

Re Betheney talking about Sonja's "smoky eye, updo", IIRC that was from a few seasons back when Sonja was talking about her party business and kept saying how she was a great hostess and master of the smoky eye and updo.

Can you share a little bit about Amy's career? Wondering if she is legit in politics or fundraising since Whit made a dig about her being some kind of blogger. Of course, if she is legit why work on TRav's campaign? From the very little we saw of her it looked like she was competent and a take charge kind of person.

Cooks - Thanks for the updates on your trip and I can't wait for the pics tomorrow. Have fun with your dog tonight. They're always super excited after a little time apart.

Regarding the $100 from the wedding money, I swear I heard Ryan D say "you took $30", meaning it was OK for both of them to borrow and settle up later. Did anyone else hear that? If true, I get his problem with her. It isn't right to complain about him doing the exact same thing she did. And the way he said it made me wonder if she took the money first because she look suprised and immediately turned it back on him instead of explaining her actions. I get the impression she's trying to make sure the drama gets on camera (making Ryan D look bad in the process) and he is trying to keep the drama off camera and just acknowledge there are problems on camera.

Hoosier80- Whitney has Lurch hair. You crack me up!

Could any of you understand what Dorinda was saying to her boyfriend in next week's preview? So much bleeping. It's odd that they are making each other look so bad. Not sure if its an act for the show or if she needs to leave him. LOL at Ramona saying she googled 'mid-life crisis' and couldn't wait that long for Mario to get back to normal. That's so Ramona. I liked her lunch with Lu. But, I don't think she should be talking about Avery's relationship with her father on TV. To quote someone we know, "uncool". Is it wrong that I when I leave my house I used to tell my three dogs to "be good doggies, no messes", and now I say "be cool, don't be all, like, uncool"?

I think Shep may be husband material . . . 10 years down the road. He spoke fondly about summers at the beach with his folks and sibs and I think he wants that someday. If I had his money and could put off responsibilities a couple of decades I would too.

Does anyone know if the actress who plays Sadie is really done or could this just be a break? I like Rayna and Avery better and find them more interesting when they interact with Sadie. I also thought Sadie and Luke had some chemistry so would like to see them together down the road. I'm liking Will more and more since he and Layla ended. I'm interested to see where the storyline goes with the writer. Ditto what most of you say on Maddie, just ugh and annoying.

I thought Cam asked a follow up question about what TRav thought about not using birthcontrol and Kathryn said something along the lines of he was onboard because they were 'soulmates' and it would just accelerate things. I was left with the impression that after the scare they talked and as a couple agreed not to use birthcontrol. Does anyone remember how the convo went down?

Since Whitney is bragging about his film making success I thought I would share this quote from a review of Ultrasuede by Rodrigo Perez for The Playlist. He describes Whitney as "an irritating charisma vacuum of a personality, incapable of possessing chemistry with an interview subject ". Perez also says the film is "Inept, amateurish and . . . generally an embarrassing effort. Not because its subject isn’t worth documenting (quite the opposite actually), but because its creator is a dilettante buffoon; a clownish self-involved figure who inexplicably positions himself as the focus of the film, and yet has no business making movies of any kind." Perez nailed it!

I haven't followed this show from the beginning, but wasn't Amber at some point diagnosed with a serious mood disorder (like bipoloar or something)? If yes, I really blame Gary for all his flirting and mind games. She said she was glad they were friends now and he implied there could be more knowing that there wouldn't be anything more and it would set her off. His current girlfriend seems like a nice person and I hope she runs for the hills. C&T, I had the most hope for these two out of everyone to be happy and productive adults. That didn't happen and I'm over it. I find Maci annoying. She loves Bentley and makes him the center of her world, but is so focused on what's wrong that she is the one creating harmful issues for Bentley. He has two parents who tell them they love him and supportive grandparents so he is a very lucky kid. I'm not saying Ryan is a good dad, because he clearly isn't, but many happy and well adjusted kids come from all types of family situations so Maci needs to stop harping on the fact that Ryan doesn't meet her definition of fatherhood, especially in front of Bentley and Ryan's family. Am I the only one a little bit scared about Farrah's return? I'm worried there won't be enough bleach for my mind afterwards.

Just watched the documentary on Netflix - thanks for the tip. Loved Liza schooling him on the simple basics of making a documentary. What most interested me was that everytime he reacted to someone you could tell it was an effort on his part and he had no genuine feeling. I'm not sure if Whitney is just a soulless waste of skin or complete sociopath.