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Isn't that the point of going on a REALITY TV show? To show the reality of your life? And it isn't like Ryan is a shrinking violet, not wanting to be in the limelight. The dick pic taker is likely the thirstiest hohusband I can think of, at least in recent times. I'd be hard pressed to think of a howife who's relationship(s) hasn't played out on, well, reality TV. Especially the messy parts. Just off the top of my head in this franchise alone: Shannon/David/; Tamra/Simon; Vicki/Donn/Cancer Scammer; Emily/Shane (especially when Shane was mocked endlessly for not passing the bar); Gina/Matt. It would be much harder to find a howife who's personal life wasn't everyone's business. In any franchise.

I almost laughed when Gina spouted off that her kids could soon be on social media. Her oldest is 11, so I would imagine is already on SM. Who knows, maybe even the 9 and 8 year old kids too. Not to mention Travis's three who live with them half the time. And the kids' friends. Sheesh. I find it hilarious that she is worried about her kids now, when she chose to put them on TV when they were 6, 4, and 3 years old. And they have been on ever since. And she facilitated Matt being away from his kids more often than not back when she first came on by letting him swan in and out of their lives whenever he wanted. While he kept his love nest in another city, which of course Gina was not allowed to visit. Cry me a f**king river, Gina. You alone have provided your kids with much to read on SM.

How I feel about Heather Dubrow can be summed up in one word. Oklahoma. I have never bought Heather's innocent act, and her snarky text to Taylor just shows once again that she is a mean, petty woman. I did not watch the BH franchise when Taylor was on it, so had no idea how much charity work she does. Maybe Heather would be a happier person if she stopped focusing on herself and spent some time helping the less fortunate. But that isn't what narcissists do. And there was Gina, kissing Heather's ass as always. What a waste of space. she is. I hope Gina doesn't return, and Taylor gets her orange. Wow, Jenn looked awful. I had no problem with Tamra (and Emily) bringing up Jenn's lies and inconsistencies, all in the name of defending the POS she calls her boyfriend. I did love Andy's snarky comment on Ryan's demin jackets - lol. I wish Heather's producer from 20 years ago had granted her wish to get her off the f***king show. But alas, that ship sailed in the 1900s.

Ya, I thought that conversation was very immature. It made me wonder how Abe would feel if, say, he was going through some serious medical issue that caused him to be impotent. Would he be fine with Erin getting some on the side? Not likely. Or would Sai's hubby be fine with her leaving? They both sounded like very immature couples, not couples with children and life experiences that make you realize that you are there for better....or worse.

This episode would have been much more entertaining had Christine and Janelle, and Meri and Robyn had their meetings at the restaurant, at the same time, at different tables. So Robyn says she is depressed that her plural lifestyle has become monogamous. Kody (according to the previews) thinks he has the perfect relationship with Robyn. And that the only reason that he hasn't left his other three wives is that Robyn would lose respect for him. Interesting that religion plays no part in the reason he hasn't left any of them. But not surprising. Meanwhile, Janelle wants a sign from God to know that leaving Kody is the right thing to do, and that He would be alright with it. God has been giving you signs for a long time Janelle, in the form of Kody. You just have been ignoring them. I can't imagine this show being renewed for another year, unless they drop Kody and Robyn and follow the lives of the three Kody - free wives.

So seven minutes in, and Heather tells Terry that she never called anyone a loser, that it is not one of her words. Yet last week she admitted to calling Noella a loser. In fact I think she admitted it more than once. Sorry Heather, I am not a Tamra fan but I think you lie just as much as Tamra. Pot. Kettle. Black. Honestly, I don't know if I can take another season of Jenn. I have no patience with women who have a gaggle of children, but are clueless about their own finances. Maybe when your marriage was dying as you claim, you should have spent some time figuring your finances out, rather than pursuing Dick. And why does Jenn not have $5,000? Isn't she being paid for being on this show? I am beginning to wonder how Will managed to stay as long as he did. At this point I'd take Heather for another season over Jenn. But I am hoping for neither.

I wonder if that was prompted by the producers, as he also did talk about being on RhoBH. They also showed some of the headlines of their marital problems. Also Kyle was in the audience. I was surprised by how rough she looked. Amazing what a difference filters make.

Interesting that she was caught by Will with Ryan more than once. Jenn claimed that in the car Ryan was only giving her a gift. Sure, Jann. I mean Jenn. Lol.

My comment was based on what Jenn said, not Tamra. And we don't know what precipitated their separate bedrooms, etc. Will may have got tired of Jenn never being happy, having 6 kids but still needing to foster more kids and animals. So I would never assume that Will was "checked out" for no reason. Jenn seems to me to be an exhausting and needy person. I no longer have the episodes to go back, but my perception was that she was bored. Maybe it was that she said her marriage was dying, and Ryan was exciting and something forbidden. Will did catch them together in a car, so I don't know that he "walked out" before she did. I never heard that he cheated on her. In any case she does not seem any more stable or happy, but that is on her for who she picked as Will's replacement.

This is an episode that could have been two hours. I assume the only reason it is one is that at some point Dateline will update, and play this epi over again as the first hour of a two hour episode. There is more that they could have delved into, just based on some things shown but not explored like the letter that Kouri wrote to the police basically asking them to back off. I froze the screen, and from what I could read of the letter she states that Eric had an affair, and had created the trust around that time and gone to a divorce lawyer. She makes it sound like she knew about the trust (though of course I think that is a lie). She also write about Eric's first marriage, and that his ex (don't know that the show ever talked about a previous marriage) cheated on him with a co worker. And that Eric from what I gathered wanted her to be a SAHM, but that she has always been ambitious, hence started the business she did. It is hard to believe that Kouri took out 5 insurance policies, but also that she didn't realize that she would be scrutinized. Or that taking money from her husband's business, etc would not be discovered. She made so many mistakes, right back to buying the mouldy house and not realizing (or caring) that whoever bought it would suffer from her shoddy reno. And that they would come after her. I agree though that it doesn't make sense that Eric would have stayed with her. But then how often do we here where a spouse tells a friend that if something happens to them, to look at their partner. I guess these people don't watch true crime shows to realize that they need to take their own fears seriously and leave! Also, she wrote and had that book published exactly a year after killing her husband. That's pretty fast. You would think she would be busy supporting her kids through their first year without their dad. Does anyone else think she was writing the book while her husband was still alive?

Lol, I can't imagine any host stopping me from watching a true crime show. But in the case of Andrea, if my mind wanders it is to marvel that she has 6 kids, a successful marriage and career, and in her spare time while travelling for her job writes movie scripts. Mind you they are of the Lifetime and Hallmark variety, but still pretty impressive to me. To me she is the very definition of a woman being able to "have it all", which I find inspiring. I know some give her a hard time for some of her questions, but I have noticed that other hosts (Josh, Keith) ask similar questions and nary a word is said. In any case fellow Canadian (which is not the reason I like Andrea, just a bonus as with Keith) I would recommend watching the epi.

The only career in acting that Heather has is in reality TV. She tried to jumpstart her career a decade ago, and ended up with one episode of Hot in Cleveland and one of Hawaii 5-0. She is now in her mid 50s. I can't see how changing her zip code is going to allow her to restart a career that has been dead, for all intents and purposes, for many years. There are many mid 50s actresses already in LA that can't get work. If Heather was able to jump start her career, so would have already done so. Not to mention, there are and have been actresses on RHoBH who have been able to do both. Heather is not a successful actress, and hasn't been for years, because she is not wanted. I would imagine her personality may have something to do with that. I think that industry will put up with narcissistic azzholes if they are talented, and thus bring in the money. Heather is not in that category. BTW, the video recently posted on Heather's thread is friggin' hilarious. And Heather and Terry to a "T".

Well, it does appear as if Heather finally got an acting gig, courtesy of Bravo. A two parter, where she can make her exit from RHoOC (again). I didn't feel sorry for Heather in this epi, but did feel sorry for Noella (who I vaguely remember as a past howife?) as Heather repeated a few times that she thinks she is a loser. If Heather does reappear on RHoBH, I don't think she will fare any better. Heather is not a girl's girl, and Terry is definitely not a guy's guy. They are in their own little world. Jen, Jen, Jen. Is she having regrets about her marriage breaking up? The story does appear to be changing. Originally she said that she was bored with her hubby and marriage. Tonight she said that she was sorry that she wasn't woman enough for her ex. Those seem like two very different things to me. In any case, though Ryan says he had a one night stand, the fact that he was texting his side piece while at a concert with Jenn, saying he wished she were in his bed, does not point to that. And Jenn knows that. So either she accepts it and moves on, or ditches Ryan and moves on. But don't be surprised when it is brought up. That is what happens on reality TV. If nothing else I enjoyed the outfits that the howives wore on vacation, for the most part much more than the clothes their counterparts on RHoNY wore on their holiday.

I am so thrilled that Ty and Kat won! I had tears in my eyes as they were running for the mat. A nail biter for sure! Such a great season, love this show!!!

As I think someone upthread mentioned, this show is so boring it seems like I am watching it for twice as long as I actually am. What a snooze. I can't even watch it for the fabulous clothes, as I rarely see any. The outfits worn by Jessel and Sai early in the epi were so fugly, fugly is too nice of a word to use. Jessel's I couldn't even describe, it was so bad. Influencer Sai wore a cover up that looked like someone decided to get rid of their bits and pieces of yarn by blindly crocheting them together. I have never watched an episode of What Not to Wear, but when I see Sai that is more often than not the phrase that comes to mind.

Ya, what Tamra did was shitty, but we are 14 episodes in and Jenn is still sticking to the "we were on a break" line. Even though when Tamra brought up that Ryan was with Jenn at a concert and texting his side piece that he wanted her in his bed, they were obviously not on a break. And Jenn in her TH declares that it is Ryan's job to own up to his behavior, not hers? Own up to who? The viewers? I totally agree that her behavior with Ryan with the dick pic pictures and hats is gross. And also the she moved the dick into her home with her 5 kids. So Tamra might be crossing the line, but she isn't wrong. I loved Emily calling Heather out on referring to her as a character that is big and hairy. No one is fooled by you, Heather. I did enjoy the activities that the gang participated in, and loved the man bod bathing suits. I always enjoy seeing what the ladies are wearing on vacay. Loved Heather's dress at dinner, and also Shannon's coverup when they went ATVing and to the swimming hole. I was wondering how I could find out where she purchased it, then realized that I have one very similar - lol. After the fresh hell that is the new cast of RHoNY, I really enjoyed this episode if only because most of these ladies have a history. There always has to be drama at some point, but I still enjoyed the epi. Mostly because RHoNY's offering this week put me to sleep.

I forgot to add in my previous post that Ty and Kat are my favourites not only because they are always so supportive of each other, but that they ran the race without targeting other teams. And in fact helped I believe the two teams that are in the finale with them. I admire very much how they have conducted themselves every step of the way.

Lizzie does not have anyone she is overseeing, and anyone who deals with her would know this. Virgin River is a tiny place. Executive assistant would be a more fitting title, if Hope felt like just calling her an assistant did not sound important enough. But then it isn't Hope who came up with the title that didn't fit, its the writers.

Ugh, so now Lizzie is pregnant? What is it with these writers, and their obsession with pregnant women? I assume that Muriel is past child bearing age, but with these writers I wouldn't count on it. Also, who is Lizzie Chief of Staff to? Does Hope have a bunch of employees at town hall that we have never seen? Or is Lizzie Chief of Staff to...well...Lizzie? Does anyone else think that Jack will end up being the bio dad of Charmaine's twins after all? And that something will happen to Charmaine, and Mel and Jack will end up raising the twins? Of course though, none of those things will happen for at least a few more seasons, so lots of time to speculate.

I am so relieved that Ty and Kat are in the finale! I am rooting for them to win. My second choice would be Tyler and Kayleen. Ben and Anwar are a distant third. They started out as one of my fav teams but I have fallen in my estimation over the last few weeks. I was taken aback (and I think Jon was as well) when they arrived in second place at the mat and declared that they had been robbed. No, you weren't. I was glad that Jon pointed out that they should be excited to be in the final three.

This is more of a refresher question, and maybe the answer to my question is in the last 6 episodes as I have only watched four so far. I am trying to remember what happened to the rich guy who swept Charmaine off her feet and wanted to take care of her and her babies? That relationship went from zero to ten very quickly. But she is alone again, and I can't remember why? Also when Jack went to see her, she was still living in the big house but talking about going back to hairdressing after the babies are born. Surely Charmaine didn't end up with the big house after only being in a months long relationship with the rich guy? Can't remember if they married, but even if they did it seems a stretch that she would come out of it so well off?

It seems like what Brynn is doing for a living is husband hunt. By her own admission, she spent the summer dating three different men a day (coffee, drinks, dinner). How could she have time for a regular job when husband hunting appears to be a full time job? I read an article where Brynn was complaining that Bravo is giving her the edit to look like she doesn't have a job, but she claims to have one and be very educated as well. Maybe Bravo is finding this edit more interesting, but they can't put words in her mouth, so what they are portraying is still Brynn. Like it or not, Brynn. I did roll my eyes at Erin being annoyed that the waiter wanted to actually take dinner orders from the ladies before she was satisfied that her convo with Brynn was concluded to her satisfaction. Wouldn't it make more sense for the dinners orders to be taken and the food prepared while this convo was happening? Talk about controlling. No one can eat until Erin is happy. But then we already know that food isn't a priority for Erin. Sheesh.

I don't suppose we would be lucky enough for one of the howives to point out, maybe on a reunion episode, that HD Network doesn't actually stand for Heather Dubrow Network, but High Definition Network? IRRC, on the episode Heather even referred to Oprah's OWN Network, as a comparison to her HD Network. But of course she knows that HD doesn't actually stand for Heather Dubrow. She is hoping others don't find that out, though. You can be wealthy and not pretentious,. You can be not wealthy but pretentious. In fact pretentious means that you are attempting to impress by affecting more importance than you actually possess. Heather would be pretentious, rich or not. That is her personality.

Of course he left her physically. He stopped sleeping with her, and eventually took her out of the house visitation rotation too. He also stopped sleeping with Christine, but kept her in the house rotation. Maybe for the kids, who knows. The only way he could have left Meri any more "physically" would be to leave town, which he could not do since the other wives/kids still living at home were in the same town. And of course, he isn't allowed to "leave" a wife. But he did in any way that matters. Kody only saw Meri when there were gatherings with other family members. Meri was alone for quite a long time. I totally agree that Meri has looked pathetic for awhile now, but I think she is there as much for the paycheck as anything. I think her longing for Kody is in part her storyline, as she was ready to leave him if the catfisher had been a real person.

So from what I understand, Mark invested in a podcast app called Fireside, along with business partner Falon Fatemi who we saw in a previous episode when they met with Heather. This investment in the app was announced way back in Feb 2021, so two and a half years ago. It hardly seems to be taking...well anything...by storm. Heather is just one person who I guess has signed on to promote herself using the app, but decided to make it sound like it is all about her by calling her offering HD Network. The funny thing is, I just read a blurb from this past April when I think it launched, where Falon Fatemi does not refer to HD as standing for Heather Dubrow, but rather High Definition. So was Heather just blowing smoke at her party and making it sound like HD is named after her? Fatemi certainly doesn't seem to know that, she does not once mention the letters HD in relation to Heather's name. Too funny.