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The beach house was featured in the 20/20 episode. Chris and his wife (who have been together for 23 years now) finished it. Not sure if they still have it as they live in a different state I believe.

Again, why would Chris think that Bobby would not come after him for the money? Bobby didn't because Chris had nothing to do with the murder. I also saw the 20/20 version of this story, and came away with the same conclusion. As I often do, I googled the case to see if there was info I was missing. One thing that was interesting was that I came across a site where Andrea's son was posting. It was after the 20/20 version, and he said that he was not interviewed by 20/20 because he was going to be interviewed by another show (obviously Dateline). He also said he would share info that pointed to Chris's guilt. Still waiting for that, Andrea's son did nothing to change my mind. Edited to add: I also read that all of the jurors but one felt right away that Chris was not guilty (and that the case should never have been brought to trial). The verdict took an hour as discussion was held due to the one juror who was uncertain, and who after an hour decided as well that Chris was not guilty.

There wasn't a coin collection. It was a roll of quarters and a jar of coins that Bobby took. He would have been lucky if the total amounted to even a $100. Same with purses. He was likely hoping there might be some money in them, but I doubt Andrea was buying designer type purses. As far as Chris not paying Bobby, why would Chris not be afraid that Bobby would return and exact revenge on being double crossed? He obviously had no problem killing a woman who was nothing but nice to him.

I totally think Chris is innocent, and that the jury got it right. I think that for a few reasons. First of all, the interrogation where police were able to convince Chris that he did it, by lying that they found his fingerprints on Andrea. If he had hired Bobby Joe to kill Andrea, he would know the police were lying and simply say that he had nothing to do with it. We have certainly seem enough false confessions made by innocent people who are bamboozled by lying/underhanded police. What would make Chris think that Bobby Joe, someone he had never met, be capable of killing Andrea? And why would Bobby Joe not want to meet the person who has hired him, and at least get some money up front? And of course his ex wife testified that they didn't have caller ID, showing that Bobby was lying about recognizing the phone number as the same one Andrea called from. The most preposterous lie to be was that Chris said he would leave the $5,000 in the closet. Which closet- there had to be at least two others in the apartment. And if he specified in the bedroom closet, where? In an shoe? In a jacket pocket? Pants pocket? Shoebox? It would be like finding Waldo. What would stop Andrea from coming across it before Bobby showed up to kill her? There was no evidence that Chris made any payment to Bobby. Chris also had no reason to know that Bobby was in jail for a short time just after Andrea was killed. Why would Chris double cross Bobby, and then not worry that someone who killed a lady nice enough to give him a computer, not also come back and kill him for double crossing him? I would have come back with the same verdict that the jury did. I hope Chris is successful in suing, as I don't see how the case ever made it to trial.

Tamra was brought back to save this franchise? If I were to look up what 'circling the drain' means, I am sure I'd see a picture of Tammy Sue. The episode was so boring that I was reduced to studying the horrific extensions of Tamra, Jenn and Shannon. They so resemble rats nests, that I was expecting vermin crawl out of one, or all, at any moment. Sadly the vermin watch was more entertaining than the episode. When the first epi aired, I was trying to figure out who the two guys were in Tamra's tagline. I figured the shorter one must be Eddie though it didn't really look like him. The other guy I figured must be Tamra's mother's boyfriend. Imagine my surprise when I finally figured out that the cowboy in the tagline is Ryan. Lol. And yikes!

I had to rewind because I thought I misheard when Eddie said that David was the best thing about Shannon (to paraphrase - can't remember the exact words). WTF??? I also had to rewind when Tamra said that she had to hide from Eddie that she was taking food to Simon when he was going through cancer treatments. Again, WTF? I would think Tamra and David's kids appreciated their mother supporting their father during that time. Simon seems like if nothing else he is a good dad. Apparently Eddie couldn't put his step kids first, but rather was too insecure to get on board? What a tool he has turned out to be.

Well, **** a duck. Why was Tamra brought back? She is just as boring, narcissistic and hypocritical as she has ever been. But if we are going to see a season of drunken Tamra accusing sober Shannon of being a drunk, I guess I am here for it. I actually liked Fancy Pants in this episode. First of all, she was the only one sensible enough to wear sneakers on the boat. Points for that, and for giving Gina a dig about having to wear pink. I hate pink, and own nothing in that colour. The third point FP gets from me is the pure look of mirth she gave Tamra as Tammy Sue went cray-cray on the boat. I did love Shannon being more interested in whether John's son was on another boat, than Jenn's story about how she came to adopt her youngest son. Personally, I was more interested in who was on the other boat too. Or anything else for that matter. I ff'd past Jenn's family scenes as this franchise already has way too many kids on it. I didn't get an Archie sighting, but did get a Shane sighting which is almost as good. His comment when Emily wondered if she was pregnant about who would be the father, and he hoped the guy was rich, cracked me up. More Shane, less Jenn and Tamra please. Oh, and props to Shane's wife for trying to be the voice of reason with Tamra. Though it is a waste of time, as narcissists never take responsibility for....well....anything.

So, Austin and Chelsea have been together since day one. They went to the boom boom room (has the franchise always had this childish name for spending the night together and I just missed it?). Then Chelsea goes on a date with Josh where they give each other butt massages, and of course, make out. Austin is not happy about it. Chelsea thinks he is overreacting, and sees "red flags". But when she wants to spend more time with Josh and he resists, suddenly the red flags are gone, and she is into Austin again. Am I the only one who thinks had Josh been receptive to spending more time with Chelsea, Austin would have been toast? Honestly, the kissing on this season is nauseating. I don't need to see someone's entire tongue before it is shoved down someone else's throat. Production should invest in someone to give lessons on how to kiss on camera. It doesn't look hot, or romantic, or sexy. No chemistry whatsoever for the most part. Like spin the bottle, but with tongues.

If I have seen this story before, I have forgotten it. But within the first few seconds Dateline made it clear that it was a story they previously had covered. Lester Holt talked about the startling new allegations (those made by the ex wife who was interviewed) and went on to say "Be there as a new chapter unfolds....". So while I do agree that at times Dateline is not clear that they are revisiting a case, I don't think that is true with this one. But as far as the case goes....yikes. Hard to believe that the murdering ex judge would not have figured out that he would be a suspect if he kept on killing. The DA already suspected him, but I wonder if it is possible if he would have gotten away with it if he had stopped at one murder. But it seems like these delusional maniacs always think they are too smart to get caught. But in the end it was both carelessness and good old video cameras that did him in. How sweet that the daughter of the murdered wife, and son of the couple's friends ended up together. But such a sad case.

I kept thinking that as I was watching. Wasn't she the one who kept having melt downs in the last season. Also not getting the Joey love. He's OK, but it is like his storyline this season is to be the guy all the girls want. I am a casual watcher of this franchise, but honestly this season I am bored to death with what appears to be scripted couplings and un couplings. Yawn.

Well, that was boring. When they showed Heather pushing Terry in the wheelchair, I did not recognize him. My first thought was "Gene Simmons cut his hair?" and then "Why is Gene Simmons on RHOC?" Terry looks like death warmed over. And I didn't realize how tiny his feet are, until Heather was giving him a foot rub. Or Heather's hands are huge. Not sure which. Maybe both. The only good thing about having Tamra back is that she doesn't have kids. Gina's annoying kids and Emily's obnoxious kids are more than enough. New girl Jenn's six (I think, I lost count) kids are six strikes against her. Even her pets don't win her points, as she rattled them off as if they are possessions rather than members of the family. So far, not impressed. I used to like Eddie, but being around Tamra all these years was bound to rub off on him. The only good thing about the whole episode was the Archie sighting.

It has been difficult watching the Masters tournament since learning of Mattea's father's passing. Seeing how happy they have been during the tapings, and knowing the horrific loss they would soon experience has been heartbreaking. I lost my father when I was a dozen years older than Mattea, and my father was a decade older than Mattea's dad. I too was the only girl in the family, and extremely close to my dad. It has been many years since my dad passed, and I still feel the loss deeply. I can only hope that the closeness of family and friends help Mattea cope, as it did me. I understand Mattea's difficulty in having their father's death made main stream news. But, at least in Canada, Mattea is much loved and respected. Their father (and mother) raised a very special person.

This is why Greg is, and always has been, my favourite character in this series. Braun is brilliant in the role, and really deserves to finally win an Emmy for his portrayal.

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Aw, I still can't believe he is gone. One of my all time favourite singer songwriters. 😢

Their granddaughter is now 25 years old, having been born in January of 1998. Unless you meant continued to have rights, rather than continue. I hope they continued to have rights as well while their granddaughter was a minor.

It was discussed in the episode that Ricky turned 21 in March, a couple of months after he and Amy started dating. His mother talked about the celebration Ricky had with family and friends in Las Vegas, and that 16 year old Amy managed to go there uninvited as well. Ricky's mother said that they didn't see her in Vegas, but knew she was there. I don't see Ricky at all as a grown man treating Amy improperly. He was obviously a very immature 20-21 year old who was treated improperly by Amy and her friends. They used him for whatever they could get from him. Amy was manipulative from the start. I wonder if Amy got pregnant on purpose, and then decided to do away with Ricky for life insurance, when she realized that he was not going to stay with her because she was pregnant. I think it is quite possible that Amy, if not convicted, could have gone on to be like Sara, the woman in last weekend's episode who got away with murder seemingly a few times before she was finally brought to justice. I wonder why the grandchild was never discussed? She would have been 10 I believe when Amy was convicted, but would be 25 now. I assume maybe she herself did not want the particulars of who raised her to be mentioned? In any case I hope she has a relationship with her father's family. As an aside, I was surprised that the age of consent in California is 18. It differs from state to state, but in many it appears to be 16. Where I live, in Canada, the age of consent is 16.

I am ready now for the series to transform from "Young Sheldon" to "The Coopers". While I liked Iain Armitage's portrayal of Sheldon in the earlier seasons, it has become progressively more wooden as the series continues. I think it is a combination of the storylines (agree that they don't know what to do with him) and the actor himself. When I watch the show, I am usually annoyed when Sheldon is on the screen, and find the interactions with Dr. Linkletter et al a waste of precious time that I would prefer be given to pretty much any other character/combination of characters on the show.

Yes, his story was so ridiculous. He made his wife go first because he was trying to prod her along, but had no idea if the "intruder" was going to break through the front door with a gun himself, and shoot the first person he saw. The wife. But of course hubby wasn't worried, because there was no intruder. I thought the motive was going to be a life insurance policy that would get the hubby out of debt, but that doesn't even seem to be the case. So he kills her because she might leave him when she finds out they are going to lose their house? He did really plan it out, as far as trying to pin it on the guy who had committed burglaries before in the area. Thank goodness that poor guy was already in jail, or there is a good chance the keystone cops would have arrested him. But hubby messed up when he had his wife call 911, then shot her, then himself. No sound or evidence of the intruder. I agree that it should not have taken all those years to bring him to justice.

I am really interested in others' opinions on tonight's episode on the murder of Courtney Coco. Dateline pretty much telegraphed who the murderer was early on, when they interviewed the sister Lace and she said that her fiancé Anthony was a pall bearer, and wanted to be a pall bearer. It was totally out of the blue and really had no bearing on the discussion. But of course it took another hour plus to zero in on Anthony. I found Courtney's family to be very odd. Why would they never have disclosed the money that Courtney was getting from her late father's insurance? It wasn't until several years later when the grandfather called the police that they even knew about the money. I wondered if the fiancé may have killed Courtney because all or some of her money would have then gone to Lace. People have been killed for less. As it turns out the money appears to have had no bearing on the murder, but why did the family not disclose it early on? The most shocking thing was that it appears that Lace did not disclose that her fiancé was having an affair with her sister. Or that he left on the Friday night after a big fight and didn't come home for the whole weekend. The same weekend her sister was found murdered. WTF? WTF? WTF? The family spent many years trying to get the murder solved, and if they (or at least the sister) had been honest from the start, the police may have taken seriously the two people who came forward and said that they knew Anthony was the murderer. I felt sorry for the first cop that they interviewed who was taken off the case. While the sister wasn't involved, she also wasn't being truthful, and he was right about that.

I almost didn't watch this series when it started 6 years ago because of how Sheldon in BBT described his childhood, especially his dad. As it turns out, George is tied with Georgie as my 2nd fav characters, Missy is my fav. This was an intense episode, and the scene where Mary and George are fighting in the kitchen and George sits down at the kitchen table and wipes a tear from his eye was very moving. Subtle, and moving. Loved Sheldon singing Soft Kitty to Ceecee. Also loved that they are calling the baby Ceecee rather than Constance or Connie. We have a kitty named C.C. , so I am partial to the name. ☺️ Finally, poor Missy. ☹️

Never watched the show, not one that interested me. Also never watched Married With Children. I did watch the show Sagal starred in a couple of years ago, Rebel. And of course she has guested in many, many shows over the years.

Yes, I know the actors' real ages. I was being kind. Louise touring at almost 70 is ridiculous. Which is why I qualified my guess of 60 as being very generously young. When the show was revived in 2017, they made Harris younger than she should be since she was born during the last season of the original, in 1997. It would follow that they have likely done that with the other original characters as well, as yes, Dan and Louise would likely be pushing 70 as well if they kept what their ages likely should be. The other original characters also seem to be a few years younger in the reboot than they should be. I don't know that any of their ages have been given. Other than we know Mark is about to graduate and looking at colleges.

The whole storyline of Louise constantly touring is another dumb storyline to me. How old are Louise and Dan supposed to be? Lets say 60 which would be very generously young. What 60 year old, unless they are in fairly famous band, can afford to tour at that age? We are to believe the band makes enough money to travel and live for weeks/months on end away from home? I know the storyline was created so Sagal could appear in other shows, but it is lazy writing that they couldn't come up with a more realistic reason for her absences. And yes, that she now just cannot continue this storied career at home, and feels her life is at a standstill is ridiculous. As hubby and I were watching last night, I commented that the only Connor I like is Mark. (Can't include DJ and Mary as they aren't on enough). The only other characters I like are Ben and Neville, Neville because he told Becky off last week. Sad that in a show called the Connors, the writers have ruined pretty much anyone by that name.

What was the point of Harris being pregnant, other than to write her as even more of an obnoxious person than usual? Nope, no hand-me-downs for Harris's kid, whose mother moves from one family member to another when she isn't making bad boyfriend decisions. I am grateful to the writers that I do not have to suffer though Harris being pregnant, but it would be nice if it gave her a wake up call to maybe get her life together. OTOH it hasn't worked for any Connor so far so I won't hold my breath. I have never bought Dan and Louise as a couple. I know they had a relationship before Dan and Rosanne, but I don't see anything attractive about Dan and his living situation at this stage of his life. I like the actor playing Louise (and loved her in 8 Simple Rules) but don't buy her in this role.