KerleyQ

You know all these people heard the "in paradise" part of the concept and were thinking "awesome, the Bachelor and Bachelorette have gone to some really cool places, this will be amazing." Then they got to this shit hole. I wouldn't have needed to have some other mystery hook up to turn down a rose at the first ceremony for this place. I don't think I would have even made it that long. "We're really staying here? I've got to go, I think I left the oven on."

Yeah, they're both responsible when their first reaction to any misunderstanding or perceived let down from the other is to immediately jump into the other person's sibling's arms instead of trying to be adults and have a freaking conversation about why they're feeling hurt. Although I assume that, with JMW's not being around any more, Liam will eventually change this up and jump into the arms of Hope's cousin(?) Ivy. (It would be a thousand times more interesting if Liam's next "rebound" was a drunken night with Wyatt's mother.) Side note: How is Liam amassing this crowd of female groupies who seem to think he has no flaws? Ivy's known him how long? And Aly not much longer than that.

Maybe he can be like Kenny from South Park? Kill him every single day, along with whoever gets voted off that day.

Well, you know, considering that not willingly being killed when Sonny wants you dead makes you the worst person ever, I guess that, in his world, allowing someone to be mad at you is a huge deal.

No kidding. Most of us can call what's happening before the spoilers even come out.

If I thought he was really dead, I'd like Robin even more for it. We already saw him subtly threatening her when he originally requested her assistance in unfreezing Cassadine popsicles. He made it clear to her that he could get to her family at any time back then. I don't think he was implying he was planning on throwing them surprise parties with ice cream, cake, and ponies, if she didn't go along with him. "And I didn't shoot it down because it might be my baby she's carrying!" "Um...Dad? You do know it's mine if it's not yours, right?" Sadly, that's probably still the best romantic prospect Sam has had since GV's Lucky. When you really think of the whole sequence of events, it's so wrong. Morgan gets married, his brother steals his wife. Morgan hooks up with and falls for that wife's mother. His father screws her, and now they don't know whose baby she's carrying. Does Morgan have to move on to Delia now? And Sonny? Well Sonny managed to pull off the trifecta with one boink - He screwed the girlfriend of his youngest son in the crypt of his middle son's father (who he killed), cheating on the mother of his oldest son in the process. If Kristina was still in town, he probably would have ordered Shawn to kill whoever she was dating, and she'd have gotten shot, because, well, Shawn.

So, how long before Ivy, the poor man's Steffy, makes a move on Liam after the eventual Lope Misunderstanding #138?

The real Rorschach would be Robin in conflict with Liz. And, yeah, one does not need a gun pointed at their head or shackles on their person to be held against their will, yes, even where others can come and go. When you are certain that your refusal to cooperate will result in the death of your loved ones, you're being held against your will, and you really have no choice in the matter.

Kevin Jordan

I think the wedding planner shows up for dessert on Date One. Why wait?

If these two fall for the exact same plan Bill pulled on them in Italy, they are officially too stupid to live. And it might be time for them to throw in the towel on this grand love that is so easily thrown into question (for either of them) by a misunderstanding, even after they've already trashed it multiple times in the past over misunderstandings. If they still can't buy a "wait, hold on, maybe I shouldn't rush into the arms of this other person before I've had a chance to talk it out" clue, it's time to give up the ghost.

I think Jordan would laugh at that. It seems to be pretty clearly making the point that the only way Scottie would even try to claim to be the best Bull ever would be because he has a short memory. I mean, it's being said alongside a claim from Charles that "I'm a pacifist."

I think it's easy enough to keep Luke alive and off screen indefinitely if need be. Like someone else already suggested - have the Fluke reveal in some form, then send Dante and Lulu off to find Luke. Or have Lulu mention that she's talked to Lucky, Robert, and Ethan, and they're tracking him down. Then stash him in a hospital off screen where Laura and Lucky are seeing to his recovery from whatever Fluke did to him.

Yes, please let his death be that he pops up again in Robin's lab, and she's prepared with a syringe of a special drug she developed just for him. Please?

I think Bill's moved on to "Team whatever Liam wants me to be, because I don't want to piss him off anymore." I think I remember him trying to pressure Wyatt to back away from Hope for Liam.

Agreed. At this point, all four of Hope, Wyatt, Liam, and Steffy have inserted themselves into things when the person they are after is involved with someone else. I think all four have lost the right to be indignant over it by now.

Agreed. It was laughable that he claimed "I can't get away." I said to my TV exactly what you just typed - he's always hanging around FC making sure Wyatt isn't "up to something." Not to mention, his father owns the company, I think he can talk dear old Dad into letting him get away to Paris for a few days. Like Bill, of all people, is going to be all "nope, taking time off work to traipse around the world on romantic missions is so unprofessional!" It really just seemed like "if I just lighten the hell up and go along on this romantic trip with Hope, thumbing our noses at any plans Wyatt may have up his sleeve, I lose the chance to sit back and play victim, stewing over whatever Wyatt might be planning and how disloyal it would be of Hope to go."

I think that's exactly it. They know that every time she appears, it's getting attention, so they are happy to have her pop in when they can. And, of course, Ron is of the "any attention is good" school of thought, so even if Robin fans are complaining and throwing garbage at their television, they're still paying attention. That's all he cares about.

I don't think there's a ceiling. (Or would it be floor, in this case?) Through all of the Lucas/Brad/Felix scenes, I kept looking at the screen thinking "why would he be interested in either of these guys? Surely he could take a wormhole to NYC and find a wider gay population to choose from?"

I always kind of side eye the people who go on these shows and then claim to be insecure or have low self esteem. As someone who actually has dealt with insecurity to various degrees, I can guarantee you the absolute last thing I would ever have considered doing as a young single person was putting myself on TV, especially on a show like The Bachelor (or any of its various branches). I mean, you have low self-esteem (especially due to a physical issue, like in this case), and you go on a show to compete with attractive people for a guy? It makes so little sense to me. It comes across more to me like "if I say I have low self esteem, people will tell me how fucking awesome I am."

I agree that the diamond, on its own, is probably more suited to the couture line. But I think that the "story" of the diamond is what they're really using to brand it to her line, because that's the kind of thing you aim at a younger audience. Which is actually why it would have made sense for the FC team to stage Wyatt giving her the diamond like that, as opposed to him blind-siding her.

I'm not getting what Frank's saying with her "doing the show" and still working in her directing program. I get the impression that she's only back for a few episodes. Is it a few episodes right now and then more down the line? And, by moving her story in an interesting direction, I get the impression that he means "using her to bring Jason back to the screen, and then finding an even more insulting way to write her out than last time."

God she was magnificent. I spent large chunks of every episode she was in just in awe of her. She's always been a cut above, but damn, she was on a whole other level last summer. I know the Daytime Emmys have been a joke for some time, but her not having one in hand for that work is a travesty. She, DW, and VI all mixed together was some of the best work I've seen on soaps in years, possibly decades.

I don't understand why Ron doesn't go with something along those lines. He loves his stunt-casting, and he's obviously overly-invested in this story line, so why not bring back a vet to play some of it out? You can still give Tony some of his big moments in the story whenever he's ready to come back, since, regardless of who this ends up being (and if it was supposed to be Bill, that may have to change now), they stole Luke's life, married Tracy, had sex with Tracy. Now that Julian is really and truly pissed and ready to be out from under Fluke's thumb, it makes sense that Fluke would go incognito again.

Kevin Jordan