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Finally - these Brooklyn reviews specifically praise EBR's performance... Saoirse Ronan Leads The Restrained But Heartfelt Brooklyn — A Review Posted November 4, 2015 by Erik Amaya http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/11/04/saoirse-ronan-leads-the-restrained-but-heartfelt-brooklyn-a-review/ 'Brooklyn' is wonderfully heartwarming and vibrant By Peter Rainer, Film critic NOVEMBER 4, 2015 http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2015/1104/Brooklyn-is-wonderfully-heartwarming-and-vibrant

This article is about Arrow and Flash setting up for LoT, and the author thinks Arrow has done a better job of setting up its LoT characters than the Flash... The shared universe effect takes hold, for better or worse, on the CW Benjamin Rosenstock Tuesday, November 3, 2015 - 8:23pm https://www.michigandaily.com/section/arts/tv-notebook-flash-and-arrow

As a non-comics reader, I found this article really interesting... Four seasons in, ‘Arrow’ picks and chooses from its comics past BY ANDREW A. SMITH 10:11 AM ON NOV 4, 2015 http://zap2it.com/2015/11/arrow-season-4-constantine-damien-darhk-double-down-mr-terrific/

I was skimming through Arrow-Constantine articles and came across this gem (the author is Carla Day, Contributing Writer, BuddyTV)... http://www.buddytv.com/articles/arrow/arrow-interview-amell-constantine-57960.aspx Huh?!

From the EW article about tonight's episode (in the Spoilers thread): Would this be considered ship-baiting?

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/661952688939098112

Since some threads/posts were merged, I don't know if all of the older source citations are still accurate... SUMMARY OF ALL SPOILERS FOR 406 - 410: S4, Episode 6: Lost Souls [75th EPISODE OF SERIES] -- Production code: 406. Director: Antonio Negret. Airdate: Nov. 11, 2015. -- 406 synopsis: "Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) is frantic when she learns that Ray (guest star Brandon Routh) is alive and being held by Damien Darhk (guest star Neal McDonough). Felicity’s guilt over not finding Ray sooner causes tension between her and Oliver (Stephen Amell). Meanwhile, Sara (guest star Caity Lotz) joins Laurel (Katie Cassidy), Thea (Willa Holland) and the team on a rescue mission for Ray. However, the effects of the Lazarus Pit take over and threaten to jeopardize the entire operation. Donna Smoak (guest star Charlotte Ross) returns to Star City. Antonio Negret directed the episode written by Beth Schwartz & Emilio Ortega Aldrich (#406). Original airdate 11/11/2015." -- Felicity learns Ray is alive and being held by Damien Darhk. (TV Guide synopsis, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Billy Joel song to represent this episode would be "That's Not Her Style". (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- 4x06 will answer the question of whether the explosion at Palmer Tech is on the same time line as Oliver & Felicity's journey. (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- On whether Oliver will be insecure or bothered by Ray's return, MG: "Episode 406 – which is awesome, by the way – holds the answer to your questions." (MG tumblr response, page 22 of Spoilers thread) -- On how Ray's return affects Felicity's relationship with Oliver, WM: " Because of the way season three ended, we haven’t seen Felicity grieving the loss of Ray. Finding out that that loss isn’t what she thought it was, she’s going to be going through some pretty complicated emotions and they’re definitely going to have an impact on Oliver moving forward – though maybe not in the way everyone thinks. We really wanted to try to do it in a surprising, different way and Felicity is going to want to help out her friend and that’s no doubt going to create big complications for Oliver."(ETonline article, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- This episode includes the Olicity kiss that appeared in the Arrow 2015 New York Comic-Con Sizzle Reel. (MG tumblr post, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Olicity will kiss in this episode, and this episode contains his fave Olicity scene so far this season. Also, we will get to see Oliver/Felicity's bedroom in this episode. His fave Olicity quote in this episode is Felicity changing Oliver's name to "Chatty Cathy". (MG tumblr posts, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: “It’s so much fun to see Donna’s reaction to Oliver and Felicity being together. I would say that’s part of Donna’s charm; she’s a little bit like a Greek chorus. She’s the ultimate Olicity supporter - the ultimate Olicity ‘shipper.’ The episode where she returns is going to be really interesting because Donna is - let me put it this way: she has a surprising relationship with Oliver. Her interactions with Oliver are not what I think the audience is going to expect. And certainly not what Felicity expects.” (RottenTomatoes article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per SA, Oliver and Donna Smoak have an "excellent" dynamic now that Olicty is dating and were chatting during Olicity's road trip. SA: "I had always imagined that Oliver and [Donna] had been speaking in the time between [Oliver and Felicity] leaving together at the end of season 3 … and then returning … to the suburbs. I had always imagined that Oliver in his nice, easy-going state would have a dialogue with Donna Smoak, which was proven correct, and leads to some funny moments.” (AccessHollywood, Collider, ETonline, MTV and TVLine articles, page 24 of Spoilers thread, Kayti Burt tweet, page 23 of Spoilers thread, and Chris E. Hayner tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- When asked to describe in two words the interactions between Donna Smoak and Oliver, MG: "Felicity pissed." (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- When asked if there will be a Queen & Smoak dinner (Oliver, Felicity, Thea and Donna), MG said: "406. ish." (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Curtis Holt has scenes with Oliver, Donna Smoak and Felicity in this episode. (CR and EK tweets, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and SA facebook video, page 613 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per MG, Sara will be in this episode as well. (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, this episode is one of his "all-time favorite episodes. Something for everyone in that one." (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) S4, Episode 7: Brotherhood -- Production code: 407. Director: James Bamford. Airdate: TBA. -- 407 synopsis: "Team Green Arrow’s ongoing battle with Damien Darhk (Neal McDonough) is complicated by a shocking revelation. Thea’s (Willa Holland) bloodlust returns and she loses control in front of Alex (guest star Parker Young). James Bamford directed the episode written by Speed Weed & Keto Shimizu (#407). Original airdate 11/18/2015." (SpoilerTV article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- A shocking revelation complicates Team Green Arrow's battle. (TV Guide synopsis, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Billy Joel song to represent this episode would be "Honesty". (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Per SA, this episode "contains the most thorough, graphic and flowing stunt sequences in the history of the show." (SA tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- JBam said he focuses more on practical technique first rather than dance choreography when setting up his fight sequences. (Collider article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- JBam: "If any of you require heart medication, you should stock up before you watch episode 407 of #Arrow. It's intense. Boom." (JBam tweet, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per SA, this episode used 200 extras. (SA tweet, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Some filming for this episode was done at Diggle's house. (JBam tweet, page 620 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per MG, we'll see Oliver and Lyla's dynamic in this episode. (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Andy Diggle may be appearing in this episode. (DR and EB tweets, page 688 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Oliver's flashback love interest (played by ER) appears in this episode. (JBam and ER tweets, page 21 of Spoilers thread) S4, Episode 8: Legends of Yesterday -- Production code: 408. Director: Thor Freudenthal. Airdate: TBA. -- Per MG, Billy Joel song to represent this episode would be "Code of Silence". (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, the crossover will explain why Arrow and Flash were not chosen to be part of the LoT team. (MG tumblr post, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Hawkman (Falk Hentschel) will first appear on episode 408 of Arrow (before going to LoT). (DCLegendsTV article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "We're going to introduce some very cool characters in episode 408, one of whom will be Hawkman. This season, the crossover is going to be really the place where we launch Legends. It's going to be a very cool, exciting episode where we really see a couple members of the Legends team and their origin story - where they start and how they get launched into this universe." (Official "A Sneak Peek at Arrow Season 4" video, page 21 of Spoilers thread and page 622 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Dr. Aldus Boardman (Peter Francis James) will first appear in this episode (before going to LoT). (ComicBook article, page 619 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Vandal Savage (Casper Crump) will first appear on the Flash 208 crossover (before joining LoT). (CC tweet, page 620 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: "There’s a lot of things that are really cool about this year’s crossover, one of which is the fact that there really is a true 2-part story unlike last year where it was two interconnected episodes where each had their own beginning, middle, and end... This is a big two-part event, one single bad guy, and it will very clearly launch Legends Of Tomorrow. But at the same time what I think is a lot of fun about it is that it doesn’t feel like a backdoor pilot for Legends Of Tomorrow. It feels like an episode of Flash and then an episode of Arrow. It truly is a 2-hour Flash/Arrow event that just so happens to introduce us to some new characters who will be a big part of Legends Of Tomorrow." (Deadline article, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- SA: “Last year was designed so that if you were a fan of one show or a fan of the other show, you could enjoy 108 of ‘Flash’ and 308 of ‘Arrow’ independent of one another... It’s not the case this year. If you put them back to back on one night, they would run like one two-hour episode of television... In fact, most of the ‘Flash’ episode takes place in Star City, and most of the ‘Arrow’ episode takes place in Central City. We have a common villain, which was not the case last year, and just in general, we’ve done an excellent job of weaving not just two shows, but three shows together.” (Zap2It article, page 23 of Spoilers thread, and Collider and MTV articles, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- AK: “Just conceptually speaking, one of the ways we thought of these episodes, in sort of a macro sense, was that ‘The Flash’ episode this year plays more like an episode of ‘Arrow’ and the ‘Arrow’ episode plays more like an episode of ‘Flash.’ That’s part of the fun of these episodes. This year, both Arrow and The Flash are different, and I don’t just mean the characters themselves. Thea is on the team now. There are all sorts of different color combinations that are occurring.... We look back and thought that those ‘Flash’ and ‘Arrow’ episodes were the biggest things we’d ever done.. Now we have more heroes, more people with powers, more mouths to feed and bigger villains. It’s really exciting.” (Collider article, page 24 of Spoilers thread, and Zap2it article, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Per SA, while most of the crossover event has already been filmed, “there’s little pieces here and there to grab” before it’s officially wrapped. SA: “I think these crossover episodes standing together will probably be, in my mind, the pinnacle achievement for both shows... We shot a scene that had, like, nine superheroes in it... Nine people with either powers or super suits... It was an amazing thing to look at, to look out over the scene and see the world that has been built over the course of three-plus years." (Zap2It article, page 23 of Spoilers thread, and Collider and MTV articles, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Quentin is not part of the crossover episode (yet). (Collider article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- GG: “I will say Damien Darhk’s name for sure.” (MTV article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Per DP, although she and KC (Laurel) wouldn’t get any one-on-one character interaction in this crossover, there will be some Caitlin and Felicity screen time: “You do get to see a little bit more interaction between Caitlin and Felicity. Just little tiny bits of it. Those crossovers, it’s a lot to pack into a 45-minute-ish episode.” (MTV article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Iris West (CP) won’t be making much an appearance in the crossover storyline. CP: “[iris] is not involved at all in the crossovers that we have explored thus far. That doesn’t mean we’ll never see that. We know that crossovers have been extremely popular in our universe on the CW, so I’m sure we’ll have more. But I will say, so far, in this season, she does not appear in any of the crossovers in a large way.” (MTV article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- When asked if Felicity and Diggle get to meet Hawkgirl and Hawkman, MG responded: ":)". (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "Oliver will have an emotional and surprising storyline with Felicity in 408 that will have huge repercussions the rest of the season." (TheWrap article, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, the first non-Oliver flashback will be in 4x08. (Unidentified video of media interview with MG and WM at SDCC 2015, page 161 of Behind the Mask thread, and TVLine article, page 22 of Spoilers thread) S4, Episode 9: Dark Waters -- Production code: 409. Director: John Behring. Airdate: TBA. (MG tweet, page 23 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Billy Joel song to represent this episode would be "All My Life". (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Short BTS video for 409 of Oliver proposing to Felicity in front of a bunch of supporters of Oliver at a Mayoral Candidate rally posted. (Canadagraphs article, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- Donna Smoak will appear in this episode. (CR tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread, and TVLine article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Curtis (EK) will appear in this episode. (Pic posted in CR tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Cast pics with CR posted. (CR tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- 409 behind-the-scene pics posted. (TVLine instagram, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, there will be an Olicity Christmas/Hanukkah kiss. (MG tumblr post, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- As for any possible meeting of Donna and Quentin, PB joked as he came away from filming the fall finale, “Do I have lipstick on my cheek? [Then again] it’s a Christmas episode, so of course, everybody’s kissing everybody.” (TVLine article, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- On the 401 flashforward storyline, WM: "We will see a little bit, a hint of it in 409 and possibly 410. And then, towards the end of the season, it will all be revealed." (TheWrap article, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- SA was filming with a young boy and a hot woman (baby Mama?) in front of a house, believed to be for Episode 9 or 10. (Fan tweets, page 22 of Spoilers thread) S4, Episode 10: Blood Debts -- Production code: 410. Director: Jesse Warn. Airdate: TBA. (MG tweet, page 25 of Spoilers thread) -- Donna Smoak will appear in this episode. (CR tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread, and TVLine article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- It sounds like there will be a big confrontation between DD (NM) and Malcolm (JB) in 410. (GreenArrowTV tweet, page 24 of Spoilers thread) -- On the 401 flashforward storyline, WM: "We will see a little bit, a hint of it in 409 and possibly 410. And then, towards the end of the season, it will all be revealed." (TheWrap article, page 25 of Spoilers thread)

I kinda like the idea of DD as Malcolm's father. It sets up a Shakespearean tragedy, with father-son (DD-M), father-daughter (M-T), grandfather-granddaughter (DD-T), all trying to kill each other.

Maybe the EPs will put us out of our misery early, and have Felicity join Oliver at the gravesite in a flashforward scene in 410.

I have too much Arrow on the brain. More speculation. DD strongly implied to Quentin that he was also a father - so who is his child? We know from WM that the child isn't Felicity. The most likely scenario is that his kid is some new character who we haven't met yet (maybe one with a comics identity). But here's some wild speculation. What if DD is Malcolm's bio dad? DD knows this, but Malcolm doesn't know and finds out. However, DD doesn't know that Thea is Malcolm's bio kid and therefore his granddaughter, but he finds out. Then Malcolm has conflicting loyalties, but ends up fighting DD to keep Thea out of DD's hands, and Malcolm dies. Even wilder speculation. What if DD is Laurel's bio dad? Dinah had a brief fling with DD and was pregnant when she met Quentin, who she married after a whirlwind courtship. Malcolm joins TA in fighting DD, but he dies. Nyssa dies somehow. Oliver and TA defeat DD and destroy HIVE. Laurel takes over as head of the LOA, thus giving her a piece of BC comics canon that hadn't been given to Sara. (Okay, stop laughing.) Wildest speculation. S4 ends with a shocking reveal - Tommy is alive, and evil! He was resurrected by DD a few years ago, but suffers from LP bloodlust and has magical powers. After DD dies (presumably), Tommy takes over HIVE, thereby setting up S5 to be like S2, where the Big Bad is a former friend of Oliver. It also gives Laurel an emotional stake in S5. Tommy can even adopt a new name (some comics villain).* (* If CD isn't available, they can always go the cosmetic surgery route.)

Regarding 409 speculation that Felicity will be injured and hospitalized - what if that episode ends with Felicity's "death" (not kidnapping)? Then when the show returns in 410 (after the break), we find out that Oliver did that Vulcan neck pinch (that he did on Poppy Girl in the flashback) to fake Felicity's death. Then if Felicity's father is a higher-up in HIVE, he gets angry at DD for causing Felicity's "death". When she turns up alive again, her father kidnaps her to protect her.

Each category had named nominees and then a write-in box where you could submit a different name. SA was a listed nominee. EBR was not, but her fans were writing her name in as a nominee.

Oliver also taught situational awareness to Barry.

If Felicity isn't the one in the grave, then why would we be getting a hint of the flashforward storyline in 409 and maybe 410, which are the episodes with Donna Smoak? I am really fed up with the EPs feeding us either actual clues or misleading clues. If they actually do something as stupid as killing off Felicity, then I'm going to be more bummed than I was when I watched the end of S2 of BBC's Robin Hood series So stupidity all around!

That's great. You can vote for Arrow online here: http://vote.peopleschoice.com/#!/home/all/43/2 It's interesting to look at the nominees in the other categories that we were hoping for... Favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV Actor - David Tennant, Ian Somerhalder, Jensen Ackles, Misha Collins, Sam Heughan. Favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV Actress - Caitriona Balfe, Emilia Clarke, Ginnifer Goodwin, Jennifer Morrison, Lady Gaga. Also some interesting bits: -- Gotham is nominated in the Favorite Network TV Drama category. -- Blindspot and Supergirl are nominated in the Favorite New TV Drama category (this category has 11 nominees). -- The Flash and AoS are not nominated in any category.

Comparisons made to Arrow (and Flash) in this review of the second episode of Supergirl... http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/supergirl-s1-e2-stronger-together

5 Reasons Matt Ryan As John Constantine On Stephen Amell's 'Arrow' Season 4 Ep 5 MUST-SEE TV By Jorge Solis | Nov 02, 2015 03:00 PM EST http://www.mstarz.com/articles/90860/20151102/5-reasons-matt-ryan-john-constantine-stephen-amell-arrow-season-4.htm 5) He Is John Constantine 4) What Could Have Been 3) Stephen Amell Really Wanted This to Happen 2) The Dark Side of DC Comics 1) Legends of Tomorrow?

This article is like a Valentine to PB's acting (which I agree was pretty good in 404), but it also disses SA's acting (which is often underrated, imo - I think he has given multi-layered performances)... Arrow only has one great performance, but that’s all it needs Posted By Daniel Walters on Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:24 PM http://www.inlander.com/Bloglander/archives/2015/11/02/arrow-only-has-one-great-performance-but-thats-all-it-needs

Wow, I'm shocked - here's a rare, negative review of the Supergirl pilot (*)... A not so super start CBS’s new superhero series, “Supergirl,” disappoints by Kyle Canady | Nov 03 2015 | 2 hours ago http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2015/11/a-not-so-super-start (* I suppose you could dismiss this review as coming from a college newspaper . However, I've read a lot of reviews and have found that the quality of the review does not necessarily depend on whether the source of the review is a professional media site, a fan site, or a college site, but on the author and how well he or she writes. Of course, whether you agree or disagree with what's said is another matter. I don't think the above article is the most well-written, but she does make some valid points, I thought.) There's also this article... The Creators Of 'Supergirl' Know That Title Is A Bit Misogynistic Lauren Duca Posted: 11/02/2015 01:37 PM EST | Edited: 11/02/2015 01:41 PM EST http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supergirl-cbs-interview_5636aff6e4b063179912c176

The round table participants discussing 404 are Liz Estey, Lindsay MacDonald, Hank Otero and Caralynn Lippo (not Carissa Pavlica)... Arrow Round Table: What's in the Box?! Carissa Pavlica at November 2, 2015 8:00 am http://www.tvfanatic.com/2015/11/arrow-round-table-whats-in-the-box/

5 Things About Legends Of Tomorrow We Recently Learned On Flash And Arrow BY LAURA HURLEY 20 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/5-Things-About-Legends-Tomorrow-We-Recently-Learned-Flash-Arrow-96377.html

Comics aside, here's another reason I don't think Laurel will be the one in the grave. I think the EPs have this thing for sisters, and Laurel & Sara are the only sisterly relationship on Arrow - yes, they're going to be on different shows, but the potential for crossovers is there. On Arrow, you had the sister rivalry over Oliver, the sister-swapping (a few times), the sister wearing her dead sister's clothes & wig and SWFing the dead sister, and the sister 'grieving' so much she had to resurrect her dead sister. On Supergirl, they gave Kara a foster sister, Alex, who also has this competitive vibe with her 'sister'. Plus, you have Kara's mother having an evil twin, Aunt Astra, who's apparently dealing with sister issues of her own, even though her sister is dead. No sisters on The Flash (yet).

'Arrow’ Episode With Constantine Pirated Ahead of TV Air NOVEMBER 2, 2015 | 09:08AM PT Todd Spangler http://variety.com/2015/digital/news/arrow-episode-pirated-constantine-1201631444/

SA is nominated for Best Celebrity Fan - you can go here to vote (categories are on the left side of the page)... Esurance MLB Awards https://securea.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2015/mlb-awards/