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That's exactly it and that would be grounds for someone filing a grievance over a hostile work environment. Seriously, how this company still has employees or clients is mind boggling. From Wanda Sykes character to the rest of the committee. These people are so horrible at times, it gets to the point where I hate the work scenes, they are getting less and less funny and the people more horrible.

Completely agree, the show has fallen into the same trap so many other shows do after being on the air a while. They push all the characters' idiosyncrasies to 11. The only person from Dre's office that should had been at the party was Charlie. Then they go acting like Charlie is this home from college kid who has to use Dre's laundry room and obvious shows and tells them he is using their laundry room because he can't afford to go to a laundry mat in general. That doesn't work and isn't funny and I was waiting for either Dre or Bow to say: "Get out!" The entire cocaine talk was not only out of place, but any other parent would be telling them to leave and never be invited to their house again until they learned to "act their age". Even Wanda Sykes character was so off, actually saying that Dre would sleep with white women by just "whipping it out". I'm like: "What?" Even with Junior thinking that Demante called the jumpy company after Jack told him he did. Seriously, that painted Junior as way way too guliable. The more regular stuff reaction even in Junior's case would have been: "Sure he did. Have fun." and then just walk away.

Yes, the Section Chief saying those things were spot on for both characters. Telling her to stop being so judgmental because she isn't being unbiased, but also to Andy to tell her it's about making the hard decisions and not "saving the day." The problem is as many have said about Andy's Lt. promotion without taking the test. Even that early of a promotion, she can't run for Captain, because she is too early of a promotion. Had she held the rank for 6 months or more, then it would make sense. However, the other two on their team were the worst. You have the divide and conquer and the other who rather take the credit. Those don't spell Fire Captains, those spell disaster waiting to happen.

Yeah, bye Dr. Roy, you dumb ass! When Richard said he was fired, I was very happy. There were a lot of LOL moments, but the revelation on Harper Avery. That didn't show me one bit and now seeing that this was the build up, it all makes sense. However, Katherine did everything herself with the cover up and everything and yes, I see her taking the fall in the end. Yes, Owen. This is parent hood, not white picket fences and Friday night dinners. It's hard work and yes, not how any of us pictured. Maggie and her cheese cravings, she really can't do anything interesting even when high.

I have no problem with the show dealing with real issues like this, but Dre has been portrayed as such an ass the last two years. I get Bow's point, but at the same time, she could have simply said: "Demante has his check up next week, let's wait until then." Because when you have a kid born 6 or more weeks early, they want to keep regular check ups and see where they are. Especially after a year. Also, Charlie and his co-workers were at their worst, I was wondering outside of Charlie why the rest were there. Then to add in Wanda's character of saying Dre was having an affair because of "planned sex". I was like: "Who wrote this episode?" I'm happy it wasn't all resolved, but really, Dre and Bow's problems are from not only them not communicating, but Dre mostly being a big baby in general that Bow hit on the nose. The entire bouncy house went no where and when Junior got tricked by Jack saying Demonte ordered it. I just wanted to go: "Oh come on, that was too stupid even for Junior." Jack using the excuse, yes. Also, so happy that neither Bow or Dre didn't go: "Ok, get that out of here."

Pretty much and this entire "big anniversary" surprise and going out to this restaurant basically through their financial woes out the door. Because how could they afford these things if the reason one didn't officially move out or look for a place to live was because they couldn't afford to live on their own. Or at least not for a while, the writers have written themselves in constant corners since the second episode. They either portray Martin as too dim for his own good or Lena who has these major revelations two years, too late. At this point, I say, sell the house, get the money together, go live with relatives or someone and hope the kids adapt well to it. Because really, this is a couple that need to move on.

I have something my eye.

I can enjoy it much more now. I was 4 when the series started and my parents watched it. I started getting more of the humor in the KA days and then watched syndication when I was in middle school during the Diane years. That said, it is still funny, I get the jokes more, see the changes in the characters and get things I didn't get back then. Especially Coach, I remembered him, but I was more use to Woody. Coach just had the heart, no one talked down to him, even though he was dim. His death, I do remember when Woody first showed up, was sad when they said he died. Watching season 3 right now, I see his health declining.

Makes me glad he left acting and became a lawyer. He was horrible as Duncan, and that bloody crying scene with his dead sister was so over top, I cringe to it to this day.

But that's the point, Martin isn't bright at all. The kids run out of clean clothes, and HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO LAUNDRY! He's a man!!!!! Then he realizes that 16 years ago, he and Lena didn't dance at ALL at their OWN Wedding!. So, doing these secret dance lessons will win her back. I really want to know how the hell he didn't see his own wife naked for almost 2 years and didn't realize it or the fact that it took that long for Lena to realize she hasn't had neither sex or had Martin see her naked at all. Yet, he can tell his daughter has hit puberty and has boobs now, but see his wife naked or even getting dress? Nah... he was busy being oblivious and heading out to the game with his friends.

No, holding a pregnancy test that is positive, Dun dun dun!!!!!

As season 2 proved, Norm loves his wife, but many people think she is a controlling nag, but instead of looking like he is just a guy in love with his wife. He decided to make fun of her, as season 5 started, we saw the change in Norm. He would stretch the truth once in a while, but he didn't cater to the rest of the "guys" in the bar with his outlanish stories. I know Fraiser even brings up a point in season 3 with: "Who are you trying to impress with these stories?" Norm replies: "I don't know anymore, I just don't know what else to do anymore." Basically saying you get stuck doing something, you just keep doing it. Something that always bothered me with Norm up until season 7. He was constantly between a job and always at the bar drinking and spending at least on a regular basis $20 a week. Until he went into internal decorating in season 7, he was never steadily employed. So, why no one ever said: "Why don't you save some money." or "I'll buy you a drink today." Never came up with didn't make much sense.

I finally got around to finishing the show up. I have to agree, there were so many strengths this season. I also felt the arc between Jessica, Tish and her mother had a very sad and realistic feel to it. However, I do agree that there needed to be a bit more flashback episodes with Jessica's childhood and Malcolm. I think that would have worked better. I do want to figure out what they are doing Hograth because one moment it seems to be going some place. The next is just seems to spin. I hope with the inclusion in season 2 of Luke Cage that will focus on the Heroes for Hire prospect with Luke and Danny it finally goes somewhere with the Rand Account, but who knows. Either way, looking forward to season 3.

I agree, both shows had a nice premise, but they can't support a long series. In fact, SUT acts more like a movie with good actors, but with a thin plot. Alex Inc could have worked if they didn't do the cliche: "Has great job, ditches it for a start up and almost sinks the family in the process."

If they do, they are pulling a Brothers & Sisters, where the gay brother and his partner had adopted a pre-teen girl who really needed a family. Only to discover that the woman who was suppose to be a surrogate lied she had a miscarriage and took off with the baby. Which made no logical sense at all since the doctor would have had to confirm she miscarried since she was taking fertility treatments. But that was another show 6 years ago, but you get my point as you pointed out. All of a sudden Owen is going to be "super sperm" and get no one, but two women pregnant out of nowhere. After he tried with Amelia until her tumor said: "No, you have brainless babies and you don't want children after you told him several times you DID want babies." I have yet to ever see anyone on this show using birth control. They tend to just whip it out and go and outside of Meredith, Christina and Callie. No one gets knocked up. Yet everyone can sleep or have an affair and the only people who ever got an STD was Alex and George.

I may be giving too much credit to the writers, but I do think the aftermath isn't coming until the finale. Especially, since the entire gala piece with Katie is the finale, which has been building most of the season. However, if it doesn't, then the main less needed to go to Oliver that no matter what you think, the best lay plans don't always work out. Oliver originally became friends with Spencer for two reasons. 1. was to get him to leave him his fortune 2. to learn from him. He became his friend in all of it, and it worked similar to him being friends with the Spanish maid in season 1. Which turned into Oliver trying to also get an upper hand in Westmont's higher culture, he just became friends with the main in the process.

I feel you, I spent 6 years on a para professional license jumping through hoops because the state said I was: "required to have the needed classes" and had to take the damn EdTPA. I finally passed it and then 2 months later, they announced that 4 of the classes that I needed were no longer relevant. But no school would hire me full time if I did not have my license, I worked as an administrator for almost 5 years. However, every time a school I worked at ran into a "budget problem" since they were private and public wouldn't take me in because not having my license yet. I was the first to be cut because I was "official" with the state. However, back to Cam, that's what irks me, because as much of an attention and glory hog he has been the past 9 years. Plus, his ups and downs being back at work since season 5. I get taking the free coaching job, but after winning conference and state titles, and then being given the assistant principal position, which does need an accredited certificate at the least in California goes too far at times. Just like Mitch's constant unemployment the last 4 years. The writers just don't know how a lawyer or educator works. The community college spin with Luke was about as close to realistic as it got, but at the same time the show has beaten over the head how important college is. I have had friends and former students that didn't go to college and were successful who were like Luke. They were just aware they weren't book smart, but could make great business decisions or knew how to work up the chain of command. Instead we get Haily who still thinks she is going to get her "big break" by working for the right person. Alex who belongs in college, but is pissy all the time and then Luke who could seriously run his own company or be the general manager for the country club. Yet, they have little to no success because you know, "it's funny!"

Depends on the teacher, there are science teachers who want students to do that, but sadly, it was set up as an English assignment not science. When it was all said and done, I was waiting for the science teacher to say: "Yes, and then I poke holes in their arguments."

EXACTLY! They even tried playing it down that Cam's "office" was the janitor's closet and it wasn't funny. Because there is no way there wouldn't be a main office or at least be part of the PE department. It made no sense and after that it was never shown again. Such a cheap punch line that made no sense at all.

Sad to say, school I use to work for caught two 17 year olds getting it on in the car around before everyone was at the school because the VP came in early and was wondering why he saw a student tagged car off next to the baseball field by his parking spot. Even worst, one of them was NHS. But I agree, Lena is not 17 and just because it's been 2 years, doesn't mean get it going on. The problem is, this just paints that neither one of them talk to each other. There is why their marriage went to hell, they didn't talk to each other from Lean telling Martin: "Why the hell are you avoiding seeing me naked all the time." To Martin just saying: "Do you need help with stuff?" Instead they act like Martin is some brainless and inept 20 year old and Lena is: "It's my way or the high way and if I don't like it, well... you know what you did wrong." It doesn't come across as funny, it comes across as not only sad, but proving these two need to go their separate ways because they don't know how to communicate. It's a great cast from the kids to the adults, but the plot and stories are too juvenile and full of holes.

Exactly, there was no reason that Katie needed to apologize to Taylor and her going to New York was also stupid. Katie should have apologize to Anna-Kat and Greg should have told Oliver to read his entire paper to him. Plus, instead of Greg constantly going: "How dare you say something I care about and do on my free time is a scam. You better have some good reasons, and I don't mean Wiki references. Give me a good argument Oliver!" Instead it was: "Here, give him a bad grade, how dare he question his father." Another thing is that Oliver DID need to get his facts straight as someone said above about recycling. However, the way they made it come off was, Oliver wanted a good topic, screw the facts and have Greg come off looking like an asshole. Plus, just because the writers point out the plot holes in a story like everyone saying how Taylor couldn't be working the morning shift. Or how Oliver was just going with his own "personal opinions" on his paper. Doesn't mean the story will work, you just admit: "It's a bad story with lots of holes, and we have to fill in an episode or two because we killed off Spencer and we need to postpone the big reveal on his estate until the end of the season."

Right and if she would have told Jackson the truth, he most likely would have been shocked, but would have let things be. However, as many have said, you can't just waive something like that. It is like on shows when they magically "reopen" a sealed file. They are sealed for a reason, you can't just get them opened. Once again, Katherine is to blame, because she doesn't know when to speak up or shut up in other cases.

Yep, just like spotting a person running a red light is going to get her deported in no time flat. I knew about someone who got several tickets the last year, and the police just wanted him to pay the tickets. When he refused to, they did more checking and found out he was illegal. If he would have just paid his $75 (he was working in construction and had the cash on him) and would have stopped running red lights, he would have been fine. I did feel bad for DeLuca he is officially the character that gets shit on no matter what in life.

Plus, add in he was doing Pritchard's Legal Work, his own father's business and the employees treated him better than Claire. But nope, can't do it so he quit. Then he works for another firm, they just go ahead and cut a ton of lawyers and then he works for a guy who gets arrested and the company goes up in less than 24 hours? Doesn't work that way either. But oh, Cam who use to be a teacher, can take not only over a position from a music teacher. But then take over the football coach position, get a conference winning team and then is made assistant principal without any type of certificate or master's degree to do that, but that's no problem.

Thank you! Because they wouldn't. Do a tour of the station and how due process works in the real world instead of what Mitch probably learned 20 years ago. But it would have ZERO to do with his job. The salary, yes because he would be brand new and it would be a major job shift. With that said, his constant unemployment is just stupid at this point. He would not have THIS much bad luck with his experience. You can't put the "less jobs for lawyers" with Mitch, he has done this too long, even had his own practice for a bit. If he was fresh out of school or going in, then he would have the problem. But I find that Cam after being out of work for so long has had so many opportunities given to him, but is still treated like crap by his superiors. But yet Mitchel has had this crap handed to him the last 3 years. No, sorry.