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I was fine with Emily in fall after what happened with Richard, but after that? It took until the "bullshit" scene that made me enjoy Emily again. Everything just didn't make sense and Luke was back to: "I have no brain" when April showed up. Because the entire: "She is my daughter" crap just didn't fly. Let's face it, as many of us have said, AS-P acted like nothing happened after season 6 and even though the characters aged, died, moved on in jobs. They acted like nothing ever changed. From Kirk and Lulu deciding in their 40s to have kids after they even admitted it had been almost 10 years. To Richard and Emily money left to Luke with: "How can our daughter be marrying a diner owner." To even the fact that after 8 years, Luke and Lorelai will STILL NOT MARRIED! Or the stupidity of Rory sleeping around, secretly seeing Logan who showed and admitted Rory was his side piece and not breaking up with her booty call for almost a year. When anyone else would have bought a clue after not talking to Rory for almost 3 months. Reminded me of the story line with the movie: "He's not Into You" where the real estate guy was constantly trying to be with Scarlet Johansen's character and didn't buy a clue or she didn't flat out tell him: "You are great in bed, but I don't want you." until he bought a house. I mean come on!

Add that in with the entire reasons why Emily wanted to break up Luke and Lorelai and Chris being such a idiot and wimp to go along with it. Then add in she basically compared Chris to breeding an award winning racing horse. I was like: "What the hell are you thinking Emily?"

Not to mention, where was the baby in all of this? With Erica, the nanny? Not to mention her dressing up like she is still going to the office. Because I know so many stay at home moms who look like that (rolls eyes).

All the boys singing Somewhere Out There had me on the floor. That was the best and truly, Eddie and Nicole's friendship is top notch.

Similar to how Fuller House kicked off, we are seeing a bad timing with the kids' careers and life styles, but at the same time. It also puts into Roseanne and Dan's health and issues. We see Dan with a c-pap machine. Roseanne needs her chair to go up stairs since her knee and apparently her back problems have returned from early reviews. So, it's along the lines of: "They can't retire until they are dead." and the kids are trying to help out their aging parents and the parents are trying to give a roof and support to their kids who have fell on hard times. DJ's could simply be that he has finished active duty and is about not only checking in on his parents and sisters, but letting his only daughter have a relationship with them. So, it's believable, though I wish Jackie would had found a career by now.

Oh completely and with Richard an only child, he would have had to deal with Trix's estate completely and that would have been a set of money right there and with Richard dying, I'm sure he left things to Emily and if she was gone it either was going to Rory or Lorelai. Just bad, bad story telling.

Sad to say, I have that same problem with my own father and after so many years of little communication and so forth. He has only met his only grandchild in person and I left the door open to him constantly. Especially, after he had to have triple bypass and could have died. Yet, didn't really change everything and unlike me, he is very close with my 3 other siblings and my sister's wedding is next month that I will be going to, but my son and wife will not due to both financial reasons and my wife just throwing her hands up. Yet, she had dealt with her great uncle who has had constant gambling problems and money issues. That her mother and aunt bailed him out and he did have a 3 year upswing of getting into a windfall that we did borrow money from him due to both of us going through unemployment. However, all that money he had, he gambled away and we have been paying him back as promised, but we have officially said, we are done after he is fully paid back at the end of the year. He constantly did what he has always done and the only reason everyone hasn't just given up is that he lives in a very real estate profitable area in Chicago and when he dies that money goes to all the grand children since that was in their will. However, everyone bails him out because they don't want to lose out on the property, but sadly, about 7 years ago my mother-in-law and her sister should have said: "We are done, mom and dad would hate to see his just be lost after promising their grandchildren it for their own well being since you can't keep it together." Yet, they can't draw the line on when to throw things up, even with him in his mid 60s.

Some days yes, some days no and other days, I wish he buy a clue about high society and trying to be a capitalist when he can't drive yet.

Completely agree, same goes with Logan and how his parents were, which was a freaking mess too. Don't get me started on Chris's family. However, when it comes down to it, Jess had quite the claim, but also feeling that you are an embarrassment to your family (or society). Can do some huge damage, but there also comes a point and I have said this for many years that the entire Gilmore Clan needed to get over themselves and move on.

I know what you mean. Nap time would be 1 or 2.

I always enjoyed both characters. Jennifer wasn't some fall over woman. She had a job, she liked Larry, but wasn't about to get swept off her feet either early on. She wanted him to work for her and their relationship and marriage was very realistic. Same goes for Mary-Anne, she was the classic air head at times, but she knew when to bring the hammer down when she had too. She also knew when to step in on Jennifer when much like Larry, she would jump into things and be the voice of reason when she had to be. They were also career women, which even then was almost unheard of. Even after they married Larry and Balki, they still worked, Larry said it best after they moved from the apartment into the house: "It's the 90s, people have to pay bills and you can have it all, just work for it."

The lead to the bike shop just didn't make sense. Neither Dan and Ziggy could get it together, but hell he left the money to Dan to do it and they magically could get it. The problem with Mark is we waited until David showed up before we finally got Mark's backstory of why he was screwed up and how he had a similar life like Roseanne and Jackie. The dinner was fine until they made it that Leon wanted to constantly bring up with Roseanne how she was lazy and did what she wanted. Then he gets a promotion with the place as district manager and then the place shuts down a few days later. Then he showed up 2 years later and he's a health inspector. I wanted to go: "So, he went to class and got his license and a job?" With Lecy going to college and originally Quinn getting a few TV movie shows. They writers felt they not only had to write them off in the only way they thought, but to do that was to sink everyone else's careers. The writers even said when they wrote the year of "hell" as they later put it. They had no idea where it was going to end and sometime around the end of the season they said; "Ok, this is getting boring, we need to fix things."

My mom was a fan of the show when it first started and I loved the fact it took placed in Chicago. The series started when I was 8, so I watched it through the entire series. Due to my parents divorce, my dad use to take me to Chicago on a regular basis twice a year to see my uncles and my other grandfather. So, we went to a lot of the places that were on the show from the Tribute to the Theatre. I actually enjoyed the journey of Jennifer and Larry through the series, as when I got older and the series had started showing in syndication. It felt pretty natural how their relationship progressed. Something even more shocking was years later seeing it on DVD when Larry talked about where his life was at 24 and I went: "Dear God, that was me!"

Larry was the classic sitcom character. He worked hard, but he did want to try some "get rich plans", but he was never afraid to give credit where credit was due. I also felt sorry for Larry at times, because he was for the entire series: "The best laid plans" kind of guy and things just went wrong. Either by trying to plan everything out and then having some small thing go wrong or he screw it up just by not doing the most common thing. However, he was there for Balki when things went wrong and I felt his journey with Jennifer was very realistic.

Balki came across as that person who was naive but aware of things. He could be very silly at times, but he had common sense and much like Larry, he did get carried away at times. I always enjoyed Balki.

Only way you can put it. Similar to Taylor's boyfriend, how they want to write how Taylor can't use anything bigger than 2 syllable words. Yet, he is so stupid he doesn't get the fact you can't talk back to a speaker no matter how loud you yell. Same goes with Chloe's constant put down of the Otto's house and Katie. I mean look at her life and she wants to keep going on: "I'm better than you." When everyone else is like: "you're life is shit, get over yourself."

Yes, not to mention that eve minus the brain tumor, they still have Amelia: "I need sex, no matter what." It's gotten very old. Maggie flashback would have worked more if the entire flashbacks were done with Richard because it would have worked. Things with Maggie's entire: "I was young and awkward." Has been shoved down everyone's throat and as everyone has said, they have tried to make everyone like her and it only works with Richard and Meredith and no one else. That little poem and everything in the flashback and realizing that the guy she liked was really gay. That I could buy, I knew two classmates who were like that in college and I was like: "They are gay and you are chasing things on a crush." Then they did believe me and a couple years later realized not only I was right, but needed to realize, high school was over. I felt very sorry for Alex, but his mother, the entire: "Things aren't there." Was cliche, people like that do more than that, but it's not like the writers/producers at Grey's do any research. Like with Arizona's study which has been done to death.

Hence force, it made no sense.

Yeah, that made no sense. Even being Sookie, yeast in a cookie? Seriously?

Stevens is written too far the last two seasons. This was a grand example of it, just like the crew come off as really outright stupid on things and that is Charlie's job, even though they go too far on that at times. My problem with Lucy is she started confident and putting her words in right, now as you say, she is Meg. Even the comment about her "voting for Trump" came off as: "Well, duh!" After her spiel last season of why she thought voting for him would be good. Seriously, I would love it if Lucy was offered a job by another company and then kicks ass and leaves Stevens going: "Man, I am an idiot."

Oh I agree, even that it cemented Mark's issues over the years even later on during the "dumb years" where he talks about how their mother was so bad to them and their dad basically ignored that and just took off. Their mother was horrible.

How I saw it too. Especially when she was talking about how the last person was only wearing a set of googles because they had a breakdown.

Yeah, I was going to watch this episode, but like I said on the thread: "This could go very well, or very bad." Won't know now.

Yeah and I think people said the same thing. I mean when he was working at the grocery store and people kept asking him: "How are your tomatoes?" He didn't get that was written on his shirt. Yet, flash ahead a few years to the fast food place as assistant manager and he had the business booming and made some great decisions moving Waldo to kitchen and Steve handling main drive through. Because it increased sales and kept Steven in an area he wouldn't blow up. Even college years Eddie was even above that. I think the writers were trying to play the naive son too much early on and then realized it wasn't really funny.

My mother-in-law has a friend who is too and I know three who are in it. They have picked the show apart constantly for the portray. Plus, I also hated how Emily said: "We saw your pre-nub, we passed it around and laughed." No, you can't do that and if the lawyer who had it organized did that, he be both out of a job and have his license revoked. You can't just share information like that. Like when shows go: "Because we were investigating a person, we had their unsealed records open." No, that doesn't work either, once they are sealed, they are sealed.