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Despite all her efforts, I always thought Teresa has sort of a plain homely face. I always credited the relative good looks of her daughters to the Juicy Joe genes (before Joe became a drunk bloated mess). People say Gia and Milania look like her, but I think they look a million times better then their mother and the other two have the potential to be very pretty. Dina is so strange to me, sometimes she looks absolutely gorgeous and other times her face looks positively simian. I have never seen anyone who I think looks pretty and ugly (it is usually one or the other). It is like the Seinfeld episode where the girl looked totally different depending on the lighting. Mel is one of the few people who look better now than she did ten years ago. She has had some of the best plastic surgery I have ever seen. I also think she is naturally slim and has so far resisted the urge to glue two giant fake balloons to her chest (as far as I know).

I would love to see someone try to go off on Victoria Gotti. That woman is scary and it is not just because of her name. She looks like a huge ugly man in drag. She is probably very disappointed, as she thought this "bombshell" would really put her name back out in the reality T.V. circuit. Instead, nobody cares about the rumor and this season of NJ has been as exciting as watching paint dry.

I am not the biggest Caroline fan, but she did take in Dina and her daughter after the divorce. I have heard that Dina's ex is well off, but the original story (and the impression one got on their infamous wedding special) was that she was not doing well financially after she divorced...otherwise why would she not get a place of her own? The rumour was that Dina was to marry Al's brother to help with Tommy's bad reputation of being a bisexual horn dog and she would in turn get financial security for herself and her daughter, complete with an amazing shoe closet. I have no idea if this is true or why they are divorcing all of the sudden if their marriage was just a sham. Speaking of rumors...does anyone know if it is true that Joe Go lost his parent's house trying to finance Melissa's singing career or is this just ugly gossip, probably coming from Teresa?

I will feel sorry for this family when I actually see some humility and downsizing. Remember the supposedly humble Christmas...tons of toys and a very expensive little doggie. Their idea of downsizing is getting two suits for $250 and not buying designer items for full price. Yes, I feel bad for the girls, but I feel worse for the children of the armed forces or those whose lives are facing difficult circumstances through no fault of their families. There are people who worked hard all their lives, never breaking the law, and have nothing to show for it because of economic factors that are out of control. Gia is starting a girl band supposedly financed by Teresa. This just boggles my mind that instead of protecting her children and paying her creditors, she is still trying to pimp out her daughter. I remember even in the old twop forums, there were people who totally believed that Teresa raised four girls, went all over the place to promote her books/products, and cleaned that huge monstrosity all by herself, while maintaining full makeup and hair. I guess many people want to hold on to the illusion that a woman can really "have it all" and the ones who don't are just lazy. I would love to see Teresa scrubbing toilets in prison.

Wasn't there a rumor that Jac punched Caroline in the face?

Where should I begin... 1. "There are girls out there maybe good enough for my sons" What the hell! Your sons are gutless losers who can not do anything but ride their mommy's coat tails into reality T.V.whoredom on Daddy's dime. If an intelligent and caring women is interested in them beyond getting their face on T.V. you should thank God. I know you think the only girls good enough for Albie are children of millionaire celebrities like Alexa Ray Joel (Billy Joel's daughter), but this is ridiculous and you need to let go of these type of delusions. 2. Lauren...I would not snicker at a girl who is actually has to work for a living. What wonderful things are you doing with your life...oh yes, you are waiting to get married. With all your parents resources you have accomplished nothing. I have heard you thought you could do much better then Vito (which is code for someone with more money) after you got you lap band and some fame. After that did not pan out... you went back to him so you would actually have something to do on the show (bridezilla). There is nothing wrong with being a wife, but I feel like you expect Vito to kiss the ground you walk on and that is not the right attitude toward marriage. 3. Caroline, you meddle in your children's life because you are a sad lonely woman whose husband can not stand to be around her. Just admit this. 4. Andy, no matter how many women you hire from central casting none of them can get wooden Albie to seem exciting.

I think it was from the OshKosh B'Gosh "I'm a little cowboy" line for infants. The twins have some of the worst fake breasts I have ever seen. They look like two bags of concrete stuck on shelf affixed to their chest. Maybe Dr. Terry Dubrow is their surgeon? I think this franchise is in trouble. They based their last three seasons around Teresa and now there is nothing to gel the cast together. Bravo also probably though they were going to get a lot of juicy (pun intended) tidbits about the Gui's legal troubles, but Teresa is keeping her mouth shut and sticking to the "poor me" victim storyline. She is really not earning her $750K this season.

I felt that this was a girl who came from a monied family, so she had the privilege of being a bit of a dilettante when it came to her education. However, I will say at least she is trying to do something and not partying her life away.

I am so happy this show is on this site (thank you to whoever requested it). The opener was a little lackluster when you compare it to the greatness that was the Bling Bats and Dead Men Walking. I wonder if the talent pool for this type of high pressure competitions are limited (they already seem to be using previous contestants). I know there are many cake decorators, but how many sugar artists and pumpkins carvers can there be in the world (particularly on this high level)?

It kind of reminds me of when Simon performed his single I'm Real on Andy's show in shiny electric blue pants. You could see they had the potential to be likable, but they always seemed to make the wrong move in front of the cameras.

Dina's was absolutely beautiful. I think it was one of the best interpretations of Aphrodite that I have ever seen and was a refreshing change from the usual way that Goddess is represented. This season of Face Off has given me two laugh out loud moments. The first was serial killer reindeer and the second was man boobs Zeus. I know armor can be anatomically correct (remember when George Clooney's batman suit had nipples), but that looked ridiculous and the fluffy clouds did not help. It was also funny the way the model was posing...it was as if Zeus was saying "Love my moobs or they will destroy you". So, thank you Face Off for not only being a great show, but also for making me smile.

When the girls grow up, Teresa will claim that she went to jail, just because she wanted to give them the best of everything. She will put the blame of her actions on her girls and be a martyr. Nothing in last night's interview surprised me in the least. I knew she would spin the plea deal as something she was forced into by her attorneys and the rotten government. She will start spinning the prison sentence as a sacrifice she made for the good of her family. She is a classic narcissistic parent who sees her beautiful daughters as nothing but an extension of herself. The scene with her getting the girls ready for school totally told me that she rarely ever does that in real life. She had no idea about seat belts, car seats, and what tests or homework the girls had. Her "devoted mother" routine is really for her image and her brand. When she interacts with the girls, you can see their discomfort, as they know their mother is showing off for the camera, and is not this way in real life. Teresa is using her daughters as a shield against bad publicity, where most mothers would do their damnedest to protect their children from the onslaught of negativity.

Someone on this thread posted a picture of the family with their four beautiful daughters (I really have nothing against the girls) taking a vacation in the Dominican Republic in 2013. First, how did they get there if they did not have their passports, second, did they go there to hide money, and third, how the hell can they afford to take a lavish vacation when they are under so much legal and financial scrutiny?

Yeah, sometimes I wondered how the heck Alex kept on signing up for the abuse, when she knew darn well Andy was never going to portray her family in a favorable light. I know Bravo has a lot of stipulations in their contracts, but there had to be some point they could have walked away. I guess as they started getting into rough financial straits...they had no choice but to rely on the Bravo gravy train. I hope they both realized that they are simply not built for reality t.v. and focus on raising their sons in a healthy environment.

That interview with Alex and Luanne that took place before the show aired seemed so sad. I think Alex missed her chance...if she could just get over her pretension, she could have been the down to earth one, that could have laughed at all the crazy along with the audience. It's amazing how Luanne throws shade at her in the interview by asking if she had a house in the Hamptons. Also, Luanne meeting her soon to be ex husband in the Alps seems to be in a different league then Alex meeting her husband online. Alex also made it seem like they begged her to be on the show because of her intellectual and cultural background, where now it feels like she would sell her right arm to be brought back. Simon was always trying to hard to grab the spotlight from his wife when she was on the show. I always thought that he was the bigger fame whore among the two of them. I actually wish them the best of luck and hope they are smart enough to finally leave all this reality show foolishness behind them.

The Kelly's dad does not mind putting his sons' life in danger for a little money. Good Lord, just when you thought these people could not get any worse. I think Glen gets very tunnel visioned when it comes to the gold and takes very stupid risks. This would not make him the best dredger in Nome as most good dredgers would always put safety first.

There use to be a show called I hate my Kitchen, that did a good job showcasing different material choices for kitchens. The host would use a wide variety of materials like soapstone, quartz, aggots(sp?), concrete, and butcher block. I won't say I always loved his designs, but it was a nice way to step out of the box of the usual House Hunters trinity. I agree about the closets. I understand that in HH world all women like clothes and shopping (I like clothes as much as the next lady, but I would never force my husband out of our bedroom closet for it). It would just be nice to hear a lady say at least once "These closets are so huge...I can finally house my collection of rare first edition antique books".

I If Bobby were reality TV savvy, he would have just looked into Nicole's eyes when Jim pushed him to put a ring on it and said something cryptic like "Who know what the future holds". We would then have a talking head of Bobby saying about how much he loves Nicole, but was scared of marriage due to the ugly divorces in his family. Then they would have the drama of "will they/won't they tie the knot" to keep interest in their story lines (not that anybody is that interested in them, it's just how things go in reality TV world). Soon we would have the big engagement (perhaps an airplane sky writing "Marry me, Nicole" over the Jersey Shore). This would eventually lead to a wedding spin off. You could never pay me enough to go on one of these show and even I know the score.

One thing you have to say about Gollum...he never pretended to be a lawyer or tried to sell false drugs to people. I also think he might have been taller then Jim.

I am a little shocked by the picture. Does anyone else remember how pretty Gretchen was before she joined the show? What has she done to herself to make her face look so broad and manly? I think she is under forty, but does not look it in that shot.

Maybe the guy was hypnotized by her cleavage or really stupid. Otherwise, I go nothing on why the hell he would pick her out of all the artists.

The only thing I got from this movie is that most of the cast did not care for Dustin Diamond. Since I have heard that DD is a huge jerk in real life, from multiple sources, no sympathy from me. I never cared for Screech, either. Like Urkel, Screech was supposed to be a lovable nerd, but I found both of them horribly annoying. The actress that played Lisa had none of Lark's sparkle. Besides Zack and Screech, everyone else is so badly cast; it's as if the casting agent has never heard of the real SBTB. I do not believe DD beat up a kid that taunted him in line for the movie.

I always thought Jim was an Oompa-Loompa from Loompaland, but with less dignity. Maybe, this is the rare dialect/language that no one else can understand (unless you are Willy Wonka)?

I have mentioned this on other HW threads...I read an article on wealthy people who had built 25,000 and up square feet homes (with one outlier being 50,000 square feet). All of these people could easily afford these mansions (unlike most of the people on this show). However, every single one of them regretted the decision. The constant maintenance required on the homes of this size meant they had no privacy. One family had downgraded their staff from two dozen servants to only three people. Having a grand gigantic home is wonderful, IF you can afford it (which includes upkeep and utilities); otherwise it is a gigantic drain of time and resources. .

Yeah, I noticed that as well. I wonder if growing up, since Kathy is older, if she was held up to Teresa as a role model. I can imagine Kathy being the well behaved kid that all the adults love and Teresa developing resentment towards her. Also, if felt as if the Manzos and Lauritas really warmed up to Kathy. For all that was made about the Teresa/Melissa, I always felt it was Kathy that Teresa could not stand. She evened refused to acknowledge that Kathy tried to help her girls during the Gorga (sp?) christening fiasco. The twins seem harmless. However, it always freaks me out to hear such baby talk coming from some elderly looking faces. Does anyone else feel that since there is no more feud, Melissa seems really irrelevant this year?