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Exactly, the issue isnt that Ruby and Earl dont contribute (and both of them should), rather that Ruby and the kids act like Ruby has to contribute only because Bow is unable or bad at something Let me put it this way: if I ever have kids they will have chores and be paying jobs as soon as legally permissible, and if I ever have able-bodied family living with me they will be expected to contribute to whether its cooking, cleaning, driving kids, yard work, etc. I'm not saying an able-bodied inlaw/parent needs to be treated like "the help", but they do need to contribute.

I was extremely annoyed on Bow's behalf because Ruby is job-less, able-bodied, and living rent free. She sure as hell can do something to contribute to that household.

Xanax Prick and Blood Dad were such bad actors. I really liked Reese back in the ED.

See I think in season 1 and early season 2 Glenn was portrayed as "innocent", but lately he's been veering into Joey Tribianni levels of stupidity.

But neither had heat with Archie. I wish theys do what they did with Viola Davis' Annalise Keating and have it be that Bettt and Veronica arent gay or even bi, but are attracted specifically to each other. On How to Get Away with Murder, Davis' character is presented as a straight woman who fell in love with Famke Jansenn's Eve and she is probably the love of her life. But they've made clear that Annalise is into men+Eve, not women generally.

As someone who fooled around with a student-teacher when I was in high school (he was a 22 yr old college senior and I was a 16 year old high school sophomore), let me say that while I am not endorsing, approving, condoning teacher/student relationships, it is not always black and white. I was mentally and physically mature for my age and I definitely was not a victim. Plus, there were a ton guys that definitely would have been more than happy to do something with a few teachers in my high school. So I can see why the show is trying to have it both ways, showing Jennifer is clearly a predator yet having Archie clearly more upset about loosing his fuck buddy than anything else, and Dylan more upset that his son tapped it before he got the chance. There is definitely a double standard in society when the student is male versus female, and frankly having been a teenage boy, I think this particular double standard exists for a very good reason. Hell, my older brother and a few friends that found out all congratulated me for it. But I guarantee that if them or me had found out of our female friends or frankly any female at our school had fooled arouns with and teacher and student-teacher, we would have gone straight to the principal instead of congratulating her. All that said, the show has I think unintentionally undermined whatever narrative theyre goijg for by making Archie so dumb and dull.

Have we talked about how expensive it is to eat unhealthy? Because it's always portrayed on tv and even in the media that eating as Kate is allegedly eating now (kale, etc) is more expensive than the alternative and buying doughnuts at a gas station, when the reality is that unhealthy foods, particularly those fast food "value" meals are budget killers. I bring this up because this morning at the grocery store a Kate & Toby sized couple picked a fight with me out of the clear blue sky about what was in my grocery cart versus theirs, with their argument being that it expensive to eat like I do and look like I do. I quickly dispelled that myth when we went to the cashier and their grocery bill for the two of them for the week was almost 3X that for me and my boyfriend. And then we got into all the fastfood and gas station snacks they get during the week, and I think they saw they were spending well over 3X what I am per week for crap versus my healthy food.

What if Wes gave it to them AND what if Mrs. Mahoney was who Wes called and said "it's Christophe".

No, I'm saying that Annalise started the fire, totally unaware that Wes and whoever else was in the house. And I know there are holes there . . . actually, the only thing I know for sure is that once again I am going to miss the fuck out of this batshitcrazy show after next week.

I think Annalise started the fire and was the anonymous source. I think she planned to create a double jeopardy situation and also destroy all traces of evidence in order to clean the slate. Perphaps we'll find out she called everyone to the house to tell them her plan. And I think having Atwood or Meggy or even Simon be the killer and/or the arsonist is way tooo CBS for this show.

I think @helenamonster is going to he right re Wes' death. However, I think Connor knows Laural killed Wes and decided to pin it all on Annalise that he, Mickey, etc could all finally escape her vortex. Actually, that was a plot twist of a book I read years ago and can't remember the title of. On a related note, Annalise and others continue to have a large chunk of time unaccounted for. And why was Annalise calling everyone over to the house in the first place?

Laural, Oliver, Asher, and Bonnie, in that order, is still my list of suspects. Fantastic episode.

I think the show is always at its best when Jimmy & Kenny have story together because Matt & Noah just have "it".

She's been in at least one other episode which was a Melrose Place parody.

And older brothers. My parents gave him "the talk" but then expected him to give it to me and then for me to give it to my younger brother; we're all four years apart.

I think it was a throwaway line on the show or aftershow or in some interview someone did . . . maybe theyd have time to delve into what Beth does if Toby didnt take up at least a third of the show every week.

I don't know what this says about me, but I loved AnnaKat threatening to poison that girl who was two-timing Oliver.

Yup! And my boyfriend, and actually everyone I've ever dated, is/has been a "Randall".

I am going to withhold comment on Jack and Rebecca's fight, except that in the instant Rebecca said that Jack was "in her way", I hated her. I do not, repeat DO NOT want to dimmnish that Rebecca gave up her dreams and did work very hard for her family as a SAHM, but Jack also gave up his dreams and worked very hard for his family. So Beth has a sister named Lisa, and her mom lives in DC? Tell me more please. So Toby tried to kill himself after his divorce? I don't give a fuck. Seriously, once again Beth gets minimal screentime while Toby and his stupid jacket eat half the damn show. And why exactly do Kevin and Randall have a supporting cast of characters around them, yet Kate is propping Toby's story? On that note, while I hate that Duke did indeed turn out to be an asshole who was intentionally harrasing women, I really hate that once again a story about/centeres around Kate once again is quickly jettisoned so that Kate can be further tethered to and prop Toby. Do the producers not think Chrissy is capable of driving story? Because her acting in that diner scene proved she can. Randall's nervous breakdown was heartbreaking. I can handwave 99.9% of the unrealistic stuff that happens on tv, but this bugged the crap out of me, if only because everytime someone visits me at work the procedures I have to go through are exhausting. I dont work in NYC, but I do work in a big city and the idea that someone can walk into a building without checking in with security, checking in again at the company's main floor, and be escorted the whole time by whoever they are visiting was just "no" for me.

I've really enjoyed this LMD arc if only because every single time I am 100% the show is going to zig, it zags and it does it in such a way that I should have realized how dumb what I thought was going to happen was. For example, when Simmons was noting that the timing of the mission wasnt right, I thought the reveal was going to be that she was in The Framework. Good on the producers using the ambiguous "some time ago" for the flashbacks instead of nailing down how many years ago and fucking up their own timeline like so many other shows do. The LMD finale looks intense.

Skins was supposed to be straightfoward and realistic?!? Dont get me wrong, the UK original verison was actually a great show, especially compared to that god awful US remake. But IMHO both were about as realistic and straightforward as The X-Files. Come to think of it, the US version of Skins also had a milquetoast cant-pass-for-a-teen lead who was fucking his teacher.

Don't get me wrong, IRL I am 100% against cheating, dont think there is ever an excuse for it, have never done it, and wouldnt put up with it. But this is a tv show and it's Toby she'd be cheating, so I hope Kate cheats away! Also, I want to be clear I dont think all feminists do this. But there is definitely an ugly subculture within the third wave of feminism that claims to be all about female empowerment and equality but then turns around and slutshames any female who goes out and "acts like a man" or viciously attacks any man who endorses a woman going out and playing the field, etc like men do.

It seems that in the six weeks or between the end of freshmen year and July 4th, Archie got hot, started fucking Grundy, and as a result of those things developed a completely new personality and interests. People definitely change in high school, but not literally overnight.

I'm going to laugh if Kate has a one-night-stand with Duke and the feminazi's on Twitter predictably start calling her names. As far as I'm concerned, if Kate does that, I'll say "go Kate!!!"

I completely agree about Duke. But I don't think Beth is anywhere near the line . . . IMHO, she's so far from the line that the line is a dot to her. Seriously, I think she's blunt but her lines are definitely not the outrageous 'oh no she didnt just say that'. Maybe I feel the need to defend Beth because she's the character I relate to the most, but I think there is an ocean between sassy, particularly the sterotypical black female sassy, and anything Beth has said or done thus far. Her bluntness to me is a far more realist perspective. And I think that was best evidenced in this past episode, making the memory for the girls, reminding Randall that neither was prepared when their fathers died, and then calling marriage when Randall seemed to be spiraling a bit.