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I know it was, but it still felt like a bait and switch, and I say that as someone who likes Bo-Katan. I do think Sabine's story was given almost as much weight as Ahsoka's, but maybe that's for the best? I don't know how boring it would be to watch Ahsoka scowling and gazing with her arms crossed over her middle any more than we had to.....

Omg yes! This is the third show that they have done this to - BOBF was taken over by Mando (the only thing that saved that show, but still), Bo-Katan took over as the main character on Mandalorian, and now Sabine over Ahsoka. It's gotten ridiculous. I feel they are on the verge of over saturation with Star Wars much like Marvel. Maybe they need to take a break and work on the story a little more. I have less faith in Dave Filoni telling a good story than I had a few series ago......

100% on this, and I don't think they succeeded. For me who has watched Clone Wars, I absolutely loathe how Rosario Dawson played Ahsoka. I have seen everyone saying she's older, she's been through too much, etc. I don't buy it. She's beyond stoic. As far as Sabine, her actions went beyond bratty. I cannot fathom how Ahsoka just blithely dismissed it all, which was also almost emotionless. And I think this is my problem with this show. I realize I am in the minority, but it's been a disappointment. On the plus side, Baylon and Shin were great, as well as the witches who I always thought were cool characters on Clone Wars. I think Ezra was great casting. I like the the wolf things they are riding. The episode with Anakin was a highlight.

This has been going on since the beginning of this show a billion years ago. My favorite of all time was Lady Leg Warmers herself Edyta Sliwinska - the queen of just dancing up a storm around a mostly still partner. I feel like Kym Johnson would do that a lot too. In my mind it's just making lemonade with the lemon dancer you've been given - mostly happens with older or generally terrible dancers, and unfortunately, Harry is terrible. This! But unfortunately, I feel like Mira or Alyson will be next - women of a certain age that are kind of forgettable. Kinda bummed that JLS didn't get a few more weeks. Pretty good improvement from week one from Tyson. Hopefully he can keep leveling up, but unfortunately I don't feel like he's with a pro that will help him get there...... I am here for Jason - he's with my current favorite pro and wow on that Rhumba! Also weirdly, Barry - props to the older guy for the surprising pep and hip movement! Lele, Charity, Xochitl, and Ariana are all pretty good, but they don't entertain me like those two guys.

Well, I finished it. This show was not for the casual Star Wars viewer. I consider myself somewhere above the average viewer, but I don't see how anyone that hasn't seen either Clone Wars or Rebels would understand or be able to fully appreciate this show without having to go online to get the backstories, and to me, that is poor story-telling. Maybe a little more exposition and less Ahsoka navel-gazing and quiet, slow-talking would have helped, but I doubt it. As a finale, this sucked. Almost zero resolution to any of the plots. Ezra got home and Morgan is no more. That is it. Oh, and surprise, surprise, Sabine tapped into the force at the exact moment she needed it. I would have preferred for her to die. I can't stand her, or the almost zombie-like Ahsoka. Hands down my least favorite Star Wars, and that includes the prequels, sequels, and all other D+ Shows. And I second the absolute bafflement of hiring Wes Chatham and just having him in a mask the whole time - what a waste! Or maybe this is just one of those wink wink, it's a famous person having a moment playing a star wars character just to be able to say they did Star Wars?

I kept it together until Elora and Bear: "Bear?" "Yeah?" "I love you!!!!" Gaaaaahhhh! Loved Bear and William in the woods - Bear has grown up so much! I am glad they just alluded to Bear and Jackie - this show just wasn't about teen romance - how refreshing that it was the adults always looking for a snag ;-p Speaking of......."I brought something for your kit-chen" as Big produces the largest zucchini on the planet! Hilarious!!!!! I am so glad all of the characters had moments to shine this episode - the kids (including White Steve getting beaned - ha!), the elders, the adults. Glad to see Kenny Boy save the day! And even a revisit of Aunt Hokti imparting more wisdom via Flaming Flamers. Not as powerful as the first time we saw Willie Jack visit her, but still great. As a middle age white lady, I learned so much from this gem. One of my favorite shows of all time. I cannot wait to see what Sterlin Harjo does in the future.

Honestly my favorite part of the old seasons and now that piece of the drama is gone. Oh well, at least there is still self driving to keep me entertained. I really hate puzzles that allow answer sharing, almost as much as I hate alliances on this show. Just run your own race! And I am glad I wasn't the only one who kept thinking "Isle of.....something".....I didn't pause the tv long enough to figure it out properly. Loving Deaf Dad and Son, and Anna Leigh was a beast on that tightrope. Everyone else is still a jumble for me. I would have "express passed" on that bug eating. That last jumbo one with all the legs was creeping me out through my tv just sitting on the plate. There is no way I would even touch that thing let alone shove it in my mouth!

She is an alien! Her skin always looked orange to me, not a color associated with any type of human. If they can paint someone completely blue I'm sure they could paint Ashley orange! I agree she has been asked to play her that way. I think its a terrible choice, whether Dave Filoni or Rosario Dawson or both decided to make her that way. I am in the minority, but this show has just been a disappointment to me, more than any of the others, even ones that weren't perfect. BOBF, Obi-Wan and Mando S3 all had moments that I thought were awesome. For me, nothing in this show has stood out. Maybe it's a disconnect to the Rebels characters, or my hatred of how Ahsoka has been played, I don't know. I'll stop complaining now ;-p

She was like that in Mandalorian, but her part was so minor there and I was excited to see her, so it didn't bother me. But carrying her own show? It's rough. It's doubly frustrating when I see clips of Rosario Dawson on social media talking about the show, and she's smiling and very animated. It's like they put the costume on her and she loses half her natural energy. I have also seen posts with Ashley Eckstein in a cos-play version of Ahsoka, and it just really makes me think it was a mistake to not cast her in the live action show. She is Ahsoka to me.

What a relief that Tyra is gone! Julianne was a little extra, but I like that both represent the Stars and the Pros. Total upgrade! My favorite was Jason. I don't know half of these people, but that's not abnormal with this show. Overall, nobody stood out as a ringer, which is good - I am glad there's nobody like Charlie this time. I am kind of over the Bachelorettes even though I liked Gabby, but she was different because she gave off kooky vibes instead of just pretty pretty princess. Neither bottom two deserved to be there. The football player, Tyson, Alyson and the good looking reality guy were all worse IMO. I wish they hadn't eliminated anyone on night one - it seems so mean. I enjoyed seeing the prior contestants in the audience - hi there Daniel and Joseph!

I know lots of "dudes" who liked Willow - saw it in the theater in a mixed group when it came out and my husband who is a couple years older than me loved it too. Val Kilmer was huge in the late eighties after Top Gun so that was the guy draw. I could totally see a young dumb guy that age thinking Elora Danon is a cool name for a baby girl. The problem is more that Elora is what - 18-ish? That movie came out almost twenty years before she was born - so that is more a problem. If he was in his early twenties when Elora was born, that movie would have come out when he was a young kid. I love Ethan Hawke - reality bites is such a defining movie of my college years. I liked that he wasn't bad or good - he's an ok guy who has made bad choices and has regrets. Like a lot of people. And I like that Elora wasn't mad or mean but it was hard to hear her say "all I need from you fits on that piece of paper". I am glad she went and met the kids. She is all alone in many ways and having some family is good for her.

I feel like I am watching something different than everyone else with this show - I find the whole thing so boring! Everyone talks so monotone - even the long awaited Thrawn. Ahsoka has had a personality lobotomy compared to the animation version of her. I don't care that she's old, traumatized or whatever - listening to her talk is the equivalent of watching paint dry. The robot has more personality. But at least she has spent most of this series playing second fiddle to the worst padawan in the history of Star Wars - speaking of...... Sabine is horrible - she betrayed Ahsoka TWICE, and really Ezra too by making his sacrifice and banishment useless. I can't stand her. She has shown zero proof of being force sensitive. I hope Shin Hati kicks her ass again. I did like the wolf thing and the night sisters. And please let Wes Chatham take that mask off - I love me some Amos!!!! I appreciate this forum for providing a place to vent - Most things I don't like I have no problem just quitting, but I have to finish this because it's almost over and I generally love all things Star Wars. That being said, this is hands down my least favorite of all of the D+ shows. I can forgive almost anything with Star Wars, but boring me is making that hard to do!

I think I might have to do that too - I loathe all of the cutaways to the designers, and now they've doubled down to include commentary from the judges. It adds nothing and distracts from the actual show. It added a level of suspense when we didn't know who was top or bottom before the show ended. Now it's obvious.

Add me to the people who thought they telegraphed Bishme winning all season. This was one of the worst finales for me. All three basically made greatest hits looks of everything they made all season. Boring. I did like Britney's black and white pants, Bishme's shiny red gingham outfit and Laurence's final red dress. The rest - zzzzz.......this show feels more and more like it is drifting towards the Lifetime seasons. Having Zac there was a breath of fresh (old) air - I didn't miss Brandon, and would love Zac to come back. And please God, send Elaine packing!!!!!

I truly hope that you are right - maybe "Snips" seeing Anakin is going to shake her out of this funk? I still think it's a waste of time for her to train Sabine as a Jedi. I think it would be better for her to take her to Din Djarin for training as she seems more comfortable fighting like a Mandalorian, but whatever. The plot here is not complicated, but I am just not invested in these Rebels characters because I haven't seen that show. They are not as well known as Boba Fett or Obi Wan, and everyone was starting from scratch with Mandalorian so that felt like something new. I was excited about Ahsoka because I have seen Clone Wars, but this feels like a completely different character to me interacting with a bunch of strangers.

This!!!!! 100%%%%!!!!! I don't see any of her in the characterization in this show! I don't know if that is the choice of Dave Filoni or Rosario Dawson or both but it isn't working. I just don't understand why she is training a "padawan" when she has said over and over that she isn't a jedi anymore. I think the assumption here is that you know what happened in Rebels as this show is a continuation of that one to some extent. But for new viewers, it just isn't that compelling when you don't really know Ezra or Thrawn......

This gif of cartoon version Ahsoka shows more personality in .5 seconds than live action Rosario Dawson has showed in four episodes......

Yeah, I can't speak to how she was on Rebels, but I have seen comments like "well, she's not a teenager, she has experienced so much trauma it's changed her, blah blah blah"........I don't think people's inherent personality changes that much - it's like she's a completely different person. And It's not just becoming stoic as an adult - she is emotionless! Both Huyang and Chopper have more personality. And this is the third show where the title character has been pushed aside for a secondary character. It's like a bait and switch: Boba Fett was sidelined in his own show in exchange for Din Djarin, who was then sidelined in his show because now Bo Katan is "The Mandalorian"; now Ahsoka feels like a secondary character compared to Sabine. I'm getting tired of it.

Yeah this almost seems like a different show now. I miss them sleuthing together which we did get a little this episode, but it feels like the mystery has become second or third after the play and their love lives, and the apartment building is not really in this at all as the theater seems more important to the investigation. Charles taking the fish to the theater was completely stupid. I think Mabel taking Cinda's offer is the smartest thing she could do - although totally mean spirited, Oliver wasn't wrong about Mabel.

To each their own. This season isn't resonating with me as much as the other seasons, despite a couple standout episodes. This is me though. I am glad everyone else is enjoying it. I did love this episode with Cookie. It was heartbreaking when they were in the car and she was talking about being 20 forever and her frustration at the Aunties not being there for Elora. "Was it hard?" I hope they continue to keep watch over the kids.

Is it outside the tribe though? His own friends laughed at him and didn't believe what he was telling them. This episode deals with their own guilt for abandoning him. Taking the "lessons" out of it, I do think this season has been as much about Maximus as it has about Bear, Elora, Willie Jack and Cheese. Even the episodes that focused primarily on Bear and now Cheese were about him. Maybe that's significant since those are the two singled out as "outsiders", but with so few episodes left, I would just rather see the kids, that's all.

I feel the same. This season has been.....different. Suddenly Maximus is the focus of the show? It just isn't resonating with me like with the kids. Hopefully we get more with them before this ends.

Bummer! I love Rami and his relationship with Christian. I really wish he was in and Britney was out. I swear, I feel like puffer coats should be banned on this show. There is no "fashion" left to be mined from that. If I can buy a version every single year from Old Navy for $20, it's not fashion. Everyone needs to move on. Another thing that can be banned - the avant garde challenge. Nobody knows what the hell that means, including the judges. Just stop. Now that Rami is out, I don't care who wins. And please, can Elaine just go? She is the worst.

I cannot believe I am saying this, but.......I am completely bored by this show. Even more than BOBF before Din Djarin appeared. My issues: 1. Ahsoka, specifically Rosario Dawson's version. She is so wooden. Her dialogue is so flat all the time. For one of the most emotional jedi ever, it's beyond frustrating. When the droid(s) have more personality than her, it's a problem. 2. Exactly why does Sabine need to become a "Jedi"???? She is Mandalorian, no? Ahsoka does not consider herself "Jedi" anymore - what is up with calling her padawan and trying to train a non-force sensitive person to wield the force? Maybe Sabine can just be a badass fighter without the force, like for instance, oh I don't know, a Mandalorian? Ahsoka knows Din Djarin who is pretty badass without using the force - maybe send her to one of her own kind for training? Oh wait, that's a different show....... 3. The only Star Wars show/movie I am completely unfamiliar with is Rebels, and I feel like this show really requires knowledge of that show. I just don't care about any of these characters other than Ahsoka, and unfortunately, so far, she's the least interesting character here...... 4. The bad guys are becoming a weird version of Star Wars generic - some not very scary baddies with an agenda chasing our hero(s) around the galaxy. I really don't care what these guys are looking for at this point. Maybe that has something to do with problem #3 for me......

I totally get that, but I think the show has done a good job up to this point of incorporating all of the generations into the story at large - I don't think it was necessary to have a flashback episode that focuses exclusively on a whole different cast.