3outta5

Holy boobs and tattoos! Just...wow. I would like the PS and tattoo costs (even if free, what it would have cost) and just marvel that it adds up to...that. Other than that, Yawnsville.

In regards to the church, Jenna's dad freaking out about her mom taking up "the whole section" was nuts. There were two empty rows behind her the whole time he was bitching, not to mention he could have sat to the right of them. I'm pretty sure the front pews were empty for the camera crew, but you know, that's totally her being a dramatic person. 🙄

Especially ironic because his supposed argument for home birth was that hospitals "don't let dads be a part of the birth" 🙄

So we agree there is 0% chance Tyler actually did the set up for that dinner, right?? The rose petals were too symmetrical (yes, this is what jumped out at me!) Maci, wtf? I've had your back this whole time but you lost me. Although Ryan is still an idiot AND terrible.

Totally agree! If he wants to visit his child, he needs to make it happen. End of. Ever hear of renting a car (or going with a friend or family member who can rent a car?) Amtrak? A bus? There's a difference between blocking a visit and actively facilitating it. That's not on Kayla at ALL.

Well, well - if it isn't the consequences of my actions...

Yep, Phoenix. I have that weird Pluto/Samsung TV channel and it just showed that episode!

I was surprised that I was ok with Renee winning. I liked all of them, though, which doesn't usually happen. John is a delight; he made it fun for me to watch. 🧡🖤

Catelynn: "You are your girlfriend are unseparable!"

After he explained himself in regards to posting the screenshots of the hate mail he got, after their 'broken engagement', I could kinda actually understand it. Showing that he and Whitney are "ok" and "hey, I'm moving on and she's cool with it. OKAY??!" Makes sense to me.

Jayde and Ryder stole the show. They are *adorable*! Question/throwback to Ryan about Kyle: "Is Josh...slow?" Or just a horrible person? I really do not like him. Amber acts like her one "selfless" act (gel) should bring her goodwill and parenting "points" for eternity. I'm deep in teenage years with two sons and PHEW. I literally have been here for them every day and make sure they are my actual honest priority and I still get attitude sometimes. Leah is totally correct in her feelings and good for her for advocating for herself.

I love how Tyler doesn't want to take "drugs" (I assume he means SSRIs?) but ketamine - is somehow NOT a drug?? This episode did my head in with all the talking in circles and failed therapy on display. It's not for me to judge whether a gas station shooting would give me PTSD and for how long, but her therapist seemed like the best, and yet Maci kinda needs it the least?! At least as evidenced in her daily life. Frustrating.

Where did Amber get the "Christina is a homewrecker" timeline narrative? I missed Gary's response to Amber's IG live.

Agreed. And yet I cracked up at how everyone was laughing at his "tough-boy" face. I know it's not funny; he seems deeply unwell.

And it can take years to get a diagnosis, even for lupus, because there is no one test and your symptoms can come and go.

I also feel like this show is better presented and a little more "honest" than Teen Mom, and especially since they won't be on multiple seasons there isn't the likelihood of them becoming celebrities/influencers so there's no chance of extreme wealth to "bail them out" later, especially since they earn so little per episode as it is... That being said, the main reason I watch is because to me ultimately the shows are about communication, or the lack thereof, and what NOT to do in relationships. I wish there would be a competent therapist to discuss what's happening with the new moms and dads (TO or with them), after an episode, to try and break the teen mom cycle AND give them a chance at having functional relationships in their lives, which only helps these poor babies born into these situations. Jenna's mom speaking truths about Jenna needing her own life (and self-esteem) is what I mean. But please start with Tyra and Alex!

Especially when he walks in and offers her a cigarette and she says, "I don't want anything from you." On re-watch I found that funny.

I had this done in 2003 with my first pregnancy/labor because I was induced (due to low fluid/being late) on pitocin and wasn't progressing. It was SO PAINFUL and didn't help, but they tried this after 24 hrs + labor and 2 doses of Cervidil with no progression. 0/10, do not recommend!

Agreed. The whole reason anyone knows about Janelle at all is her litany of issues, none of which are positive.

I was literally screaming, "Nightlights!" at the screen. WTH?? I have them all over to see around the house in the dark, but you know -they have hella cute ones for children.

I still like Tyra but she makes it difficult. But Alex, phew - he's either a passive stump or completely angry and hostile. That "stop looking at me" made my blood run cold! Jenna = ugh. Lily =same.

Walker DeBoer?? Very clunky. Walker and Watson sounds like they're a detective duo who are too damn old for this and need to retire already.

I am mostly indifferent to Sohrob, but very whelmed at him winning with that plain-looking cake. I wanted Tati, but undercooked cake is not easily forgiven. Speaking of, on a purely superficial level, can we talk about how drop-dead gorgeous she was in her prom pictures? My goodness! I do like her sense of humor and her cake decoration was my favorite.

They finally added it about 10 days ago so I did get caught up that way

"Unpublished Icelandic Nudes" = new screen name 😆