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At one point I thought I heard “Donald Trump spray tan.”

I know we're not supposed to mention politicians, but this was on the show (I think???) and I just wanted to get clarification. In the midst of her tirade against Lisa, did Monica call her a "Donald Trump fan"?! It's all garbled because there's so much screaming but I could have sworn she said that, and my closed captioning seems to agree.

Meredith really was the perfect mark (Marks?) for Monica. She's done this sort of thing before, so she has zero credibility, and she didn't put up much of a fight when confronted about it because she's "better than that" and "so beyond it all" (i.e. heavily sedated and only able to move 40% of her face).

Omg but Heather clasping her hands, standing up straight, and saying, "You can pack your bags and go" like she's a reality competition host??? That's the kind of cheesy shit I live for. I LOVED IT ALLLLL.

Who is Mary?

The snake is eating its tail and honestly... I'm here for it. Call me naïve but I, for one, am surprised! I thought for sure Heather just knocked her face on a low-hanging cabinet and tried to wring a storyline out of it.

Well that was certainly... something. Just when I was beginning to think this franchise couldn't offer us anything new. Wow. WOW.

Is it possible Brooks was hired to create models of Ford cars?

Oh my lord shut up, Whitney.

Omg and right after Kelly said that, blink and you'll miss it but Sonja sagely explained to the group, "A verb is an action word." Just her delivery of that line - I don't know why but it made me guffaw. I just love these women.

Is it weird that I think maybe this ... is Kelly's authentic self?

Right?! When LuAnn was giving Kelly advice about how to handle Dorinda, like, on one hand I got why she did it it, because Kelly kept digging herself a hole and I think Lu genuinely wanted to help Kelly. But on the other hand, I kept thinking, how fucked up is it that Lu has to explain that they need to walk on eggshells around Dorinda because she's the freaking missing stair? Even Ramona was saying she basically goes into a fugue state when Dorinda starts lashing out. This is like a manual on how to withstand verbal abuse.

I guess this UGT is technically kind of boring, but throwaway lines like Ramona saying to Kelly "You'll be fine; just let your hair bark" are why these OGs are my happy place.

I am loath to say this, since I really don’t like her and feel she is a problematic HW, but… *small voice* I’m enjoying Dorinda’s talking heads. Her impersonation of LuAnn as a spider was pretty funny and spot-on.

Why does Kelly sound completely different?? Genuine question: is it because, due to all of the work, she’s no longer able to functionally move the lower part of her face?

I love how much it chaps Kody's ass that Christine and Jenelle have remained friends. Like, I truly love it. It makes me so happy.

It's truly refreshing to be on a forum where everyone is united in their hatred of one person (Kody Brown). Like, I'm in other reality TV forums, and there are loathsome folks on those shows. But they typically still have a few champions among the posters. Not here! Not Kody! It's delightful.

How do I get "The sacrifices that I made...to LOVE YOU!" as my ringtone?

All right... I've watched a bit more, and I have to say that Robyn is a fascinating character study. She could be the subject of a novel, or a true-crime documentary. What is the truth about Robyn??? There's the version she's selling us-- the most charitable version -- in which she wanted one big happy family and has tried to make it work over the years, and she can't help that Kody ditched the other wives for her (She begged him to work on their relationships!), and she was just trying to keep her family safe during the pandemic. Then there's the interpretation at the other end of the spectrum, in which she's a manipulative sociopath, ruthless in getting what she wants. And, then there's every interpretation that falls somewhere in between. And... now, as I watch, I feel like almost any of her actions could be read through the lens of either of these interpretations. Was she tearfully asking Christine "Where do we stand? Do you want a relationship with me?" because, as she tells us, she always thought that would happen some day, and it was something she always wanted to happen, and now she's devastated because she's mourning the loss of it? Maybe! Or, did she ask because she knew damn well what the answer would be, strategically turning on the waterworks to sway sympathy from Kody and the viewers? Maybe! Like, she could fully be a stone-cold sociopath. Or she could be something else in a wide range of interpretations. I honestly don't know!!!! It's so interesting! I love this show.

If we can all agree on anything, it's that!

I will add, if Robyn truly is a manipulative, evil person and has planned this all out, I really, really hope that her crowning achievement will be leaving Kody and taking what's left of his money with her. I'd give her a little hat-tip for that.

I haven't seen Robyn do this -- I only remember her saying she wished she were "curvier" because "Kody likes curvy girls" (and something about the way she said "curvy girls" made me want to vomit, but that's neither here nor there...). But, like I said, I've missed some seasons, so if this is the case of course that's absolutely disgusting! It's a good point that one can be unintelligent and still manipulative... I don't know. I think she treats Kody exactly as he wants to be treated (which: ew) and it's mainly Kody I see choosing to spend time with her and her kids and then pitting the other wives against her (the way he's always pitted his wives against each other). She could choose to tell him to stop giving her preferential treatment but she's not going to do that because then she'll get less money, time, affection, parenting help, etc. and I think that Robyn is out for Robyn and makes decisions for Robyn. But to me that's slightly different from deliberately hatching a plan to come into this family and capsize it, gaining legal wife status and draining the finances. If that makes any sense? I do think that even if Robyn were all sweetness and light and good vibes and earnest intentions (which, she's obviously not - I really dislike her!), this family dynamic would still be fucked for a lot of reasons including Kody's blatant favoritism of her. I guess I just wonder how much of this is a Yoko Ono situation where it's easier to believe in this caricature of an evil, conniving woman who singlehandedly dissolved the group. (To be clear, I don't think anyone here is saying that -- but that's the discourse I see about her in the world and even within the Brown family). And maybe the shoe fits! Maybe she really is an evil conniver who had this all planned out "from day one"! But I can't say for sure.

I like your post too, because it offers me a different perspective! Ultimately, though, I still just don't see Robyn as this manipulative puppet master. Mainly because she does not seem very smart to me. But, hey, I could be completely wrong and she's actually an evil genius! Barring that, my sense of Robyn is more like she was a struggling single mom who saw a gravy train, grabbed hold, and then ruthlessly did whatever she could to hang on.

Thank you! This is very enlightening.

Kody to Truely: "Are you sure you're happy? Where's your smile?" OH MY LORD I HATE THIS HUMAN BEING SO MUCH.