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Yes! Hashtags are pretty functional and useful *when used correctly,* but what drives me nuts about how Leah and Kail use them is that they render them pointless. It's meant to be so you can find other people in that same situation/looking at the same stuff- like #coloradophotography if you're a photographer or #momlife if you want to talk about parenting or #ppd if you want to talk about postpartum depression, or #weightlossjourney or whatever. It's supposed to build a little online community that you can scroll through. They are such narcissists that they use them THE EXACT OPPOSITE WAY and it drives me nuts. They use hashtags that absolutely no one else on the planet would ever use. I mean, really? people are searching for #ihave3babydaddiesbutimstillhotandrichsofuckyou and #liveurstandardbyignoringdoctorswishes? #mybabyis43andstillhasnoname #praythedisabilityawayreadingisdumb Like, STOP, y'all.

Anything that my baby wears on the regular should not be a thing for grown adults. I don't care if you wear 80 pounds...I think a solid consistent fashion tip is "don't dress like a literal infant."

So...do we really think that Javi is a fame whore still? At this point he's just kind of looking like a desperate ho to me? I mean, I think he's both, but it seems like his issues go deeper than just wanting to be famous. I mean, honestly, I think they'd be fired in seconds.

Yeah, that's pretty awful, TBH.

100% agree, I mean, it's one thing to be disabled- that's pretty common and can be fine, but wow. We all knew about the shortened life expectancy, but that can mean a number of things. I hadn't thought of it so....literally, even though that sounds dumb. And to hear it spelled out like that is just devastating. It's basically like your child has cancer...but more slowly, and a kind that no one *really* understands and there's no specific treatment protocol for. I really felt for her there. :( :(

I don’t get Adam’s parents. I’d be humiliated of my kid, not bending over backwards to accommodate them. Yes! And he’s been arrested more times than he can count. I think even more than Jenelle has. He also doesn’t have any custody of his daughter because he was considered too risky for her to be around. Barb is the only one who has a right to speak on this with any credibility. Second to the kids, she’s the victim here.

Seriously, we’re talking to the king of “threaten and scream at cops when you’re being arrested.” Why am I a guy?!

He’s really more of a douche than I ever believed. The more he shows himself onscreen the worse he comes off.

Lol at “liveinyourstandard”

I don’t think they should forbid anything outside of the wheelchair but they’ve essentially taught her, it seems, that her wheelchair equals failure and giving up/showing the prayers aren’t working. That’s simply not practical as she WILL be a wheelchair user in the future even if she isn’t now, and also teaches her to feel shame about her disorder. It would be better to treat any accommodations she needs as a matter of fact thing of life, not overly positive or negative, and to deal with her emotions, whatever they are, as they come up, rather than pushing some dangerous “pray the MD away” ideology.

I agree that the problem isn’t the lack of a steady relationship but the simultaneous man hating and man worshipping. It’s such a contradictory message. They all put men at the forefront of their lives but at the same time hate them. At the very least, pick one!

I admit ignorance in this area regarding the legalities as well, so I could very well be wrong. I just feel like she cooperates with her quite a bit not only for Jace but because she has a longing for reconciliation. Which is TOTALLY understandable as a mother, but I just really fear for Jace.

I’d go into the basement and chill during filming if I was Jenelle’s Barb, too. Lol!!

I assume also that Corey and Leah are doing that more for themselves than for Ali. Maybe she does in some instances but we’ve never seen her care all that much about cheer or T-ball on some personal passionate level. I think it’s all part of their “pretend it’s not happening” thing they both have going on. I haven’t commented on the Jenelle situation yet because it honestly left me so shaken. From her slow, creepy smile when she lifted that gun to the immediate switch when she was pulled over, to Jace’s breaking voice when he called Barb...yikes. I mean, wow- we are watching trauma unfold before our eyes, literally. I know it’s an unpopular opinion but Barb is really in the wrong in not pushing harder for Jenelle to never see Jace at all. Jenelle is really evil.

I guess I must be the only person on earth who doesn’t see the gay side of Tyler. I could see him being bi, but he just looked way too excited with those strippers and has talked about girls too much in the past to be totally gay to me. I can obviously see he’s a preener and somewhat feminine, but so are a lot of guys. Of course that doesn’t preclude him from hooking up with a guy, but I do think he has the capacity to be attracted to women... just not Cate. At all. I think part of it, maybe? is that he’s so unattracted to Cate that he seems almost asexual. He looks like he feels absolutely nothing for her. And I don’t blame him in that respect (though for a lot of other things, yes).

He is PTSD in action, or at least waiting to happen. You’re so right. I agree with the folks who said they hate Javi for making them side with Roxanne. She’s annoying as f*ck but he’s got major issues. I feel bad for his baby mama. He’s going to wind up a 3x3 just like Kail.

I see what you’re saying but she’s not cognitively disabled in any way. She should be in typical classes with everyone else- a wheelchair shouldn’t cause someone to need to be homeschooled or to have to go into a special needs program with kids who are going to have behavioral or cognitive disabilities. She’s at her grade level in every way but physically. Sadly I think this happens with aides all the time. They tend to come and go. Same.

Dear Lord, he needs to stop writing.

I frankly can't imagine them staying together forever by any means, so I wouldn't be surprised at any news about their breakup. It could be in a year, it could be next month, it could be five years from now, but I'm confident in saying it will happen. That's just not real love.

Got to agree. Homophobia is fine for her but not fine for him? Awesome.

I agree, but like you said, I don't know if she could hold onto anybody. I mean, can we really imagine Kailyn having an emotionally decent relationship with a man forever and staying married? I guess anyone can change, but I truly don't think it's possible for her from what we see at this point. She seems very unable to connect with anybody. I agree with what folks have said about why bisexual women do statistically tend to end up with men (although after divorce or being widowed, many women also have late in life female partners, so I guess it's complicated). I'm one of them--I'm about a 5 on the Kinsey scale (and dated a lot of masculine women, like Dom, except less douchey) and ended up with a man. I don't think it was social norms that led to the decision, but just the person happening to be *my* person, but I think it certainly happens. I also think it's just a numbers game to an extent. The queer community is fairly small; many of them in my (lefty, academic) circles are deliberately polyamorous for political reasons, and others are still closeted, so it was narrowed down even more as I'm only interested in monogamy and a public commitment. Then you cut it down to the people you're actually attracted to and interested in, then all the normal dating issues, and there's really not a ton of choice. But men willing to date women, that's quite a large pool--so I think it just often ends up that way. There's also later-onset muscular dystrophy, so now that I think about it, that might be a skewed data point. I think sadly that Ali's disorder is likely to result in a drastically shortened lifespan. :(

I do know several adults in their 60s with MD (my husband works with a theatre company that includes many actors and directors with disabilities), so I think it's like cerebral palsy in that it can mean a number of different things in terms of lifespan. But I think her lifespan is said to be shorter than average? I thought I remembered that from the show.

@SnarkEnthusiast, the surprise that someone works is soooo gross and condescending. I hate that so much.

This show is so effing bleak. Re: the bullying- My husband is a wheelchair user, which I’ve mentioned before- he doesn’t get “bullied” in the conventional sense much, though it does happen. But he’s a college professor and extremely eloquent and an active dad, so I don’t think Ali will necessarily have the same experience if she isn’t taught to be fully independent (i.e., if she’s read as having a cognitive disability rather than a purely physical one for various reasons, or if Leah and Corey don’t teach her to be unashamed of her disability). The condescension/ pity and lack of appropriate public accommodations/accessibility as you become an adult are 10x worse than the bullying. You have to really fight for parking spots, to get on flights, to get in restaurants, to get in the workplace, to get your education. The world is not accessible yet. You have to really be a self starter. I fear that with Corey’s prayers for a miracle (he’s definitely just as bad if not worse with this) and Leah’s rampant laziness, she might not get there. I’m not sure why people still doubt Kail is bi. Seems Kail has always dated women and is into butch women, which many bi girls are. I get major bisexual vibes from her as a fellow queer lady, though I wish she wasn’t on our team because she’s a heinous obnoxious racist. And I don’t mean to be body shaming but damn, get some clothes that fit!!! Why can’t she just buy clothes that fit her? Does she not want to admit her size? I get it, I’ve been big before, but at some point, please just buy clothes that fit your actual body. Dear Lord. Javi is really trash. He’s as slutty and flighty as anybody on the show. Even though she’s foolish I feel so bad for his fiancée... how embarrassing to know you were a second choice, and after Briana!!! And why would he share that on the air? He’s really quite the manipulative snake. I get Barb’s attempt to get someone in her corner, but Nathan doesn’t give a shit about his son and never has. He’s all about himself and the latest girlfriend... he’s not going to make for an effective ally. Remember that he’s choked out at least 2 women that we know of and possibly 3, had no custody of his daughter because of substance abuse, and has now moved to a different state while believing his child is actively being abused so he can have sex with the latest future abuse victim. This is not a safe person. I feel for Barb though. Always.

Quoting because this is one of the more hilarious descriptions I’ve ever read of them. So true.