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I wasn't trying to put his discontinued relationship with his parents on Kim. That's on him but that also doesn't mean that it can't be pointed out when she readily seemed to support that decision. I probably watched one season in full and that was later down the road so I'm not basing my information on the episodes, I'm basing it on the things I've read or seen either of them say in interviews and I haven't come across anything about Kim trying to help nurture that relationship but if she did, then I stand corrected on that front - but I still stand by the fact that there can be attempts from both sides to try and mend the relationships and the grandchildren would be the best way to do that. If they can't respect Kim in order to have their grandchildren in their lives then you can't really do more than walk away from that and protect the integrity of your family but it seems like something he walked away from very quickly. Lots of families go through this when someone new is brought in...again, the optics of how she was presented to his family weren't the best either. That's not her fault but I can see why not every set of parents would take kindly to that kind of introduction to a woman in their son's life and it may take some patience to earn that respect and trust...you certainly won't earn it by never seeing or communicating with them. If every family ex-communicated the moment someone married or knocked up someone the parents didn't like, there would be a lot more broken families in the world. We often give our families a lot of leeways and I certainly do believe that when family dynamics become too toxic, you definitely should put yourself first and walk away but I will always advocate that you do all you reasonably can to see if you repair it.

Or the photographers would stay the duration of the funeral to see if she makes an appearance. Why not call a spade and spade and put the blame where it belongs? On the people who are stalking funerals in order to profit on photographic evidence of someone's presence and grief? Bethenny made a decision with putting herself on TV, and Dennis made a decision when he entered her life knowing that about her. She was someone important to him and her attending his funeral is just as much for herself as it is paying respect to someone who would have likely wanted her there. Why should that be overlooked? The funeral is about commemorating and giving last rights to the DECEASED. The dead should be honoured by having all of those who they love present (if they wish) at their funeral to say their final goodbye. Believing the worst from Bethenny doesn't change the fact that she has a reason to grieve, she had a reason to be there and those facts are based out of her relationship with Dennis. Bethenny does have an over the top personality and she does process things in a very selfish way. She's so concentrated on her own feelings and her mouth works faster than her brain can think and so I think it's very easy for her to come across poorly (both intentionally and unintentionally). I don't mind her talking about her grief and losing Dennis so unexpectedly but I don't like her stressing that he gave her a ring and she's going around wearing it - she only put it on because he died. I don't like that she's bringing on a professional to talk about her grief on air as an attempt to validate her desire to move on without guilt. I don't like that she's airing all of these insecurities about how she may have been the reason he died. I think it's natural for the living to question if there's more that they could have done to prevent the outcome, but I think some modicum of respect should be shown to others that are trying to survive his passing. His funeral may have been about him, but all of her actions now should take into consideration his children and I think she's too caught up in her own pity party to think about anyone but herself.

I don't doubt that either. Just pointing out that her not attending the baby shower has nothing to do with her interest in wanting to meet his son.

I agree about Shamari. I can understand why she would want to defend herself against the accusation that she's an alcoholic but Porsha gave her a great out and she didn't take it. Just say 'look, I don't go out partying often and when I do, I let loose and don't really pay as much attention to pacing myself and what I'm drinking as I should be. I'm still safe making sure that I'm not driving and I'm with people I trust, but at the end of the day, it's not a cute look to get so turned up that I'm puking on people and so I receive what Porsha is saying and I agree.' Also, Eva had an easy out to call out Shamari when she tried to shade her for the cost of her shoes. Eva clearly didn't think it was that funny and she should have called out Shamari for being elitist in poking fun at Eva's fashion because it wasn't 'expensive'. For all the shit Shamari said about Marlo and being a label whore, that was a Marlo move, lol.

He's an idiot. He chose Kim by marrying her, but he also chose to remove his parents from his life because, by all accounts, it doesn't seem like a decision that his parents made for both families. They didn't approve of Kim but they still showed up to the wedding, they still acknowledge their grandchildren. I think they would be perfectly fine putting up with Kim for the sake of having a relationship with their son and his kids. Who cares if they don't love Kim? As long as they aren't trashing the mother of your children publicly or in front of your children, the most you should ask of your parents is to simply give your wife a chance and by cordial with her on the occasional times they are visiting each other. He didn't even give his parents a chance to possibly warm up to Kim. To maybe not love her as a person but to love her as the woman raising their grandchildren and taking care of them. If there was something deeper than 'they didn't approve of my marriage to Kim', then it would have been said by now. Kroy has simply proven to his family that he made a poor choice in a wife. One who doesn't even value family enough to encourage her husband to work through it. I mean, their 25-year-old professional footballer son brought home a woman 7 years older than him who is known to date men with money to support her lavish lifestyle for herself and her 2 kids. She conveniently gets pregnant 3 months into the relationship - how do the optics of this look good to them? I think the average parent who believes they have raised their child right, honest and with humility would be suspect if that's how they were introduced to their children's new partner.

These ladies are making it easy for LVP to soak up all of the sympathies because they're a bunch of idiots who are masquerading as moral compasses who speak the truth only, have only good intentions and somehow have this cognitive ability to determine what the truth is (without proof) and then speaking on it as though it's the absolute truth. It's infuriating how stupid they are with the way they are handling this thing.

Love her or hate her, details are important. She didn't go to the baby shower because she had a business engagement in Vegas that weekend for her Caesar's cocktail garden restaurant. The same way that Luann didn't go because she had a cabaret show scheduled, and the same way Bethenny didn't go because she had a speaking engagement the day of. Some of them have various responsibilities outside of the Real Housewives world. But that said, I wouldn't be surprised if LVP was perfectly fine and breathed a sigh of relief that she had a reason not to go. And attending someone's baby shower isn't indicative of anything. Not going to a baby shower has nothing to do with a genuine interest in meeting someone's baby. Not sure why you're conflating the two.

Kim's entire family is fucked up so her mom's response isn't surprising but I don't think the same would apply to Kroy's family. They still send their grandkids presents on every birthday and Christmas - I think they would welcome a relationship with their grandchildren. Essentially, they were cut off because they didn't approve of Kim and the marriage and I can't help but think how many families have in-laws like this and yet the grandchildren still have the opportunity to build a relationship with their grandparents. Unless they're absolutely rude to Kim and would trash her in front of their grandchildren, the decision to not have anything to do with his parents is selfish on their part and only reinforces the parent's feelings that Kim is not a good person for their son.

It's very possible that they both abuse each other but whatever happens behind closed doors that we do not see between her and Gregg doesn't erase or justify how emotionally and psychologically abusive Nene is to her 'friends' or the people who are unfortunate enough to be in her company for any period of time.

So Nene lied on Gregg to make it seem like she's both the provider and the victim of his illness. Again, she's a garbage human being. She's claimed several times that she's a rich bitch but then also claims that she needed to travel and be away from her husband otherwise he wouldn't eat. She made it seem like he was the one bringing up divorce when it was her. She showed no regret for how she behaved because she said she will continue to behave naturally but then when Gregg said that he was basically behaving naturally himself in the face of dealing with an illness he never dealt with before, she gave him side eye. She made it a point to say that Gregg wasn't a walk in the park even when healthy - are we to believe that she's a picnic to deal with? Nene is an abuser. When your response to someone calling you out when you did them wrong is to remind them of all you've done for them - you just seem like a nasty bitch who only thinks to do anything good for someone so that you can keep score and use it as an excuse to keep them under your thumb. So Marlo was just there to be up Nene's ass...just the way she likes it. Speaking of Marlo, I thought she actually liked nice tonight. Her make up and hair looked good. It's never that serious when someone else is raising the issue. But it's a matter of life and death and all that is holy when Nene has the issue. The viewer comment about Nene's fashion and Tanya's response under her breath had me laughing. Nene is calculating. Whenever a question was directed at someone where Nene could be called out, she would jump in first in an attempt to disqualify whatever the person may say. She did it a couple of times with the questions directed at Gregg and she did it at the end regarding the belt.

Both Ariana and the way this article is written just reads as unintelligent. I totally understand the Toms wanting a contract in place to secure their investment in the restaurant but I also understand why the investors (including LVP) wouldn't be pushing for that idea. Not because they intended to rip them off but because for the money they were investing, is really worth the time and legal costs to draw up a contract for money you didn't actually need, for two people who may be useful but still replaceable? So I can understand the other side without judging them for it but I totally agree with the Toms for pushing for the contract. Also, she used the example of LVP having a contract with Caesars...ummm, did the Toms copyright their names or TomTom? The restaurant could be named after any Tom. (and their picture can simply be removed from the decor) They aren't a brand and therefore comparing the situation to one where a contract is being made between on party trying to use the name and brand of another established party is a whole other beast. Why is it concerning to the writer that they haven't seen money yet from the restaurant...even after acknowledging that it's been less than a year and is normal? Tom being fired was for the effect of the show. Tom is not an employee of TomTom and with a genuine love for bartending, it makes sense why he would be back at Sur doing something he loves while the restaurant kind of runs on its own.

There's a good chance the show would be filmed in Canada (because it's cheaper and I don't think the Pop network would be throwing out a ton of money at multi-episode shows like this when they are only now starting to venture into original programming), but I don't think the filming location would be confirmed unless the show gets picked up. Kenya is also making some moves in Hollywood - not sure what the capacity of her role is in the new Netflix show 'Family Reunion' is but the show itself was picked up for a 20 episode season and features recognizable names such as Loretta Devine and Tia Mowry. That must grind Nene's gears, haha.

I can't remember the last time Brandi looked even decent. She's a trainwreck every time I see pictures of her out in public. She needs to lay off the injections and her legs look scary thin.

This show is what I think reality tv should be like. It's mindless but it's entertaining and doesn't rely on manufacturing negativity. Of course the show isn't genuinely a 'day in the life of' but the personalities seem genuine and they seem like such a chill family. Marjo has got decades on me but I wanna be best friends with that woman, lol

Stassi's request for Beau to leave the party 'early' and go back to the hotel with her is not an excessive request, in my opinion. However, from what I understand, the crux of the problem is why she didn't want to leave without him and was upset that he wasn't over the moon excited to leave the party earlier than the others. I think Stassi even admitted so herself - she has insecurities and a general distrust when it comes to men and her need to have Beau by her side is because of her own paranoia of what he's doing when he's not with her at night. She doesn't feel that way because of anything Beau has done - it's her own baggage she's bringing into the relationship and I believe he used the term 'battered' to describe the emotional state of feeling repeatedly punished for something the men before him have done (and not him). I don't think it's unfair or unreasonable that he expressed that opinion and as they both acknowledged and apologized for, having a conversation like that while drunk and in such an heightened state was not productive to either of them. And whether Beau is 2 years older or 20 years old, Stassi's emotional expression shouldn't be overlooked while Beaut's is focused on because at the end of the day, Stassi is 30 years old - that's old enough.

Hunter is an idiot. His social game has always sucked because he has a big ego and it's always gotten the better of him. Cara's obsession is so pathetic. I did get a good laugh when Paulie showed out the dice answer and Cara got upset and Kyle responded with 'I can count Cara'. She's such a dumbass, lol. Georgia's reaction to Bear losing was just so dramatic and unnecessary, lol.

I meant 'is' in her favour. I corrected my original post. Thanks!

I don't have personal experience with this and I can't say for certain what the rules were in the past, but I don't think there are rules today that say that a c-section is only reserved for health-related issues during delivery. I think the main requirement is that you're at least full-term at 37 weeks. Particularly with girlfriends/wives of athletes, I've heard of many who have opted to schedule a c-section to ensure that the dad was available and present at the hospital for the birth.

I think her point was that they have a large enough body of work to sample that they didn't need to bullshit her by offering her a 'tryout'. I'm not a fan of hers but I also don't think she's a garbage human like a few of the other HWs across the franchises. She's had her bad moments for me, but not in the vein of being a nasty person, more like she's really pushy, insertive into other people's business with very matter of fact opinions to go along with it and it gets tiring to hear someone who isn't involved in an issue constantly pushing their mouth in things like she's got any real business in it, lol. Relatively harmless behaviour though.

It seems there were enough people that felt that she was admitted that the women were attempting a pre-orchestrated takedown, hence, her additional comments clarifying. I hadn't even heard what she said on WHHL until I was lazily scrolling IG and saw a gossip write up on it with her most recent comments about it. I think how you've interpreted it makes a lot of sense. She's trying to warn the people she's close to on the BH case to be careful how you tread because it could backfire big time so if you're going to pursue and double down, make sure you don't miss your shot otherwise there may be repercussions. I don't recall seeing Bethenny pipe up about what's happening with other franchises and she also put out a social media statement about the reality TV world is a minutia and that while it survives off the backs of the viewers, it shouldn't be taken so seriously. Sounds like she's trying to subtly defend her friends and the backlash they're receiving right now. I'm sure they must be getting support too and LVP must be getting some backlash herself by those who believe that she's a snake and is getting what she deserves but from my general observations, it seem like the court of public opinion is in LVP's favour.

This is a vanity project for her. You can do all of the 'book' work to become a lawyer, but a great lawyer is someone who can articulate with eloquence and conviction. She's going to need more than just tutoring and apprenticing on case law to sort that out but I don't think she has any intention of making this an actual career. She wants a piece of paper that says she's a lawyer so people can tell her how smart she is and she can brag about following in her father's footsteps and she can take even more credit for the occasional person in jail she uses her name and platform to help free from jail. I already see people defending her intelligence and potential to be a lawyer by citing the Alice Marie Johnson case as an example of the work she's already done without even having a lawyer background - Kim didn't do shit with respect to the 'lawyering' that was required to argue for Johnson's freedom. There were other people that did all of the work and Kim used her celebrity to get them in the door to essentially argue THEIR case.

I think Bethenny clarified that she didn't mean that the women plotted ahead of time to take down LVP. She said she's great friends with Rinna and of course Kyle and she said that her comments weren't supposed to insinuate that the women were conspiring to take down LVP, she was giving her friend advice that if she's going to go up against LVP, LVP won't go away quietly and she will fight back with every bit of strength she's got. Maybe she was warning Rinna that if the women think they can simply band together and make a united claim against LVP won't be enough to keep her down.

Dorinda needed to have that conversation and say those things last season, however, kudos to her because she really demonstrated graciousness with the way she handled Lu being fucking insufferable and then being the one to reach out and try to put it all on the table. If Lu continues to give her a hard time, Dorinda can at least say she gave it an honest try. Sonja needed a muzzle during that tour. Those people manage to upkeep their items just fine. I think Sonja is a combination of irresponsible and broke but she wouldn't really admit to either of those things. It's why her home continues to fall apart. A lack of care over the years and now way too much money to fix and upkeep. The backyard is absolutely stunning. Sonja went from embarrassing to flat out batshit in 30 seconds flat.

Didn't you just make an analogy some posts up about speaking in absolutes? So to that point...liberal hacks? Sunny is anti-abortion and very outspoken about it. She has conservative views about the control parents should have over their children and what they learn, especially on subjects like sex education in schools. Whoopi is a card-carrying gun owner. She is a critic of the new wave of Democrats being elected into office. So there you go, I just disproved your absolute statement. Maybe I can revisit this later on to disprove your absolute statement that Meghan doesn't at least spout the GOP party line. Because I assure, that can easily be disproven. When it comes to their opinions, all of these women are guilty of the same things many of times (whataboutism especially), but it's disingenuous to ignore that Meghan wouldn't be nearly as controversial if she continued to say what she says but delivered it in the way Abby delivers her points. It's how Meghan speaks and how she reacts that make her contributions on the show far more controversial and incites such strong reactions.

You are conflating two separate issues and calling it hypocrisy - it isn't. If you ignore context and nuance then a lot of things will seem exactly alike when in fact, they are not. If I'm not mistaken, Sunny defended the Maxine incident saying that she was advocating a form of protest which is a constitutional right of Americans. She was saying that they are federal public servants and should be held accountable and so with or without Maxine Waters saying it, it is within the right of Americans to protest and make their voices heard when they are being let down by their public officials. Taking issue with the unprofessionalism and disrespect that is demonstrated in a formal setting with two people who are speaking as official representatives is not the same as what I mentioned above. Not even close. Now, if Maxine stood up in Congress and called someone a motherf***** and Sunny tried to defend that, then yeah, have away with calling her a hypocrite on the subject. That is not what this situation is.