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This scenario exists in northern Virginia. In fact, there is a groundswell in support of reclassifying single-family housing areas into multi-family zoning (e.g., duplexes) so that a property doesn't automatically get developed into a monstrous $2M home that only relatively wealthy (white) folks can afford.

Maybe production needed to finish, well, production before the team was able to finish all of the little jobs, like replacing or painting the rusty hand rail? I guess this house reflects how Two Chicks started, which is putting a relatively expensive home into an aging or decayed neighborhood and and watching the rest of the neighborhood catch up.

I doubt they are truly friends in real life. Probably passing acquaintances.

I had the feeling that she went because she thought Amber Rose could get her work in LA. I think she had stars in her eyes. This was a terrible episode. I hated the idea of encouraging a young girl or woman to work the pole, no matter the reason. I mean, those places are filled with booze and drugs. I've known two women who danced in those places, and both suffered a lot of aggression and abuse. One ended up in Mexico and her family (my friend) camped out in Juarez trying to lure her away from the lifestyle. Did this episode start out as an Amber Rose project and Intervention production got involved? The last-minute interventionist was weird, although perhaps another one got COVID and cancelled last minute?

This is the best thing I've seen on TV all summer. Note perfect.

Another fine episode. Egerton did a masterful job as Jimmy receiving Larry's horrible story, and Larry's session with the psychiatrist was also very well done. The discovery of the bicycle was stunning. After four years of agonized searching for clues, there it was.

Erika's trying for misdirection. Talking endlessly about mixing antidepressants and booze and getting "lit" is meant to distract from the gossip that she's drinking like a fish every night. The antidepressant claim is a red herring. She's drinking too much booze in private.

Yeah, Erika is faking the on-camera drunk shenanigans. It's in the privacy of her home that she really ties it on.

There was a public alley right next to the house. Not even any green space between it and the house. Also, did they put the master up top, with other bedrooms below? That made no sense for the couple with an infant and a toddler. They stopped talking about having enough profit to help build their new office.

I think there were photos of June, the molester and Alanna lounging on a bed in a motel.

Yeah, Kyle should never try to best Garcelle in a discussion. No contest. Kyle lost the thread in her own discussion. I guess we finally know why Diana is on this show. Erika's trauma is that she did not outlive Tom and inherit immense wealth. She's well on her way to trashy drunk. Nice to see Garcelle in that chrome yellow dress without her engineered boobs hanging out. She looks divine in that dress. I could see PK's grifter peeking through as he tried to convince Dorit he lied to her in order to protect her. She saw right through it.

June was a horrible mother to Alana on Toddlers & Tiaras. She treated Alana like a commodity. There was one scene where Alana was practicing on a stage, grew tired and frustrated (remember she was a young child), and June pushed her to continue in a very mean way. I dimly recall some threats were made. That scene made me take notice of their relationship. June did a lot of posturing on that show. She thought she was bad ass, ordering everyone around. She thought she was doing the T&T version of Big Boss.

Yeah, I'm convinced he knew. He's an attorney, for gawd's sake. He can do the money math.

Isn't Kyle going to be in a real estate show with her family? Maybe she's leaving RHoBH by choice. ETA: the three sisters are trying to maximize their opportunities by shuffling in and out of series and specials.

The prison riot reminded me of Natural Born Killers. Larry carefully manipulating Jimmy toward talking about fantasizing about butchering women, and Jimmy carefully manipulating Larry in the same direction, was very well done.

I had the impression that Gage was the business operations manager, and he was the true engine behind the paint line and I think also a collaboration with a furniture company? If I recall correctly, Jeff's behaviors sabotaged the furniture collaboration (I dimly recall he and the staff making fun of one of the managers.). I think when Gage left, all of that visioning and the structure to support growth vanished. ETA: same thing with Ryan.

I was taken aback when they introduced the project. It seemed like something any designer, or even a homeowner, could do. Jeff also seemed a bit embarrassed. Such a big change from his earlier days of constantly flipping huge houses and making loads of money as a designer. I have really enjoyed Fortune. I have not heard of her before, so her PR move is working!

Diana's black sequined dress screamed Bea Arthur. I'm a little confused about JLC's charity. She shouted out the URL, which was something something dot com. Dot com in a URL denotes a for-profit business. Dot org is used for non-profits/charities. When I was on the board of my local animal welfare league, a non-profit, we received a stern letter saying we could not state that every penny went to help the animals. I mean, they pay postage to ship that branded crap to whoever buys it. I think JLC needs to brush up on the financial process. Erika appeared to be trying to ask innocent questions - to convey concern and a desire to learn about ED - when in fact her "questions" could have been lifted from one of those pro-ED websites that share weight loss tips. I've said before that she fails totally when trying to act like a normal person. She has no idea how to talk to people, and the booze doesn't help. I'm not sure I agree with Crystal outing her ED on a housewives show (for camera time and sympathy). She should be dealing with it privately and in treatment, at least until she begins to recover and get healthy. I would think watching the episode would distress her and trigger ED episodes. I continue to be curious about the Hiltons' finances. They were building their "dream home," then Kathy said the recession + COVID forced them to try to sell it. Are they now living in the dream home, or are they living in a different home? Whoever said the Christmas decorating looked like Home Depot was spot on. In fact, I suspect Bravo did the (cheap) decorating. It has that rushed Christmas-in-a-box look.

At best she should go to Duke's weight loss program, or the Mayo Clinic's, if they both still exist during COVID. Perhaps she could go when school is out and she is of age. I have friends who went and sustained long-term success. My hairdresser was on his way to 400 pounds, and his wife would bring him 10 sandwiches for lunch each day. He would eat them over the afternoon. He had gastic surgery long ago and lost a lot of weight. But he eventually returned to eating copious amounts of food and gained back too much weight. He died in his 50s.

Venita is indeed very thirsty, but she's also insecure. I think she had a lot of career hope after being selected for the show, but the Madisons, Naomies, and Kathryns just mow everyone else down. There's something painful in watching Venita be disappointed, and unlike the other losers on this show, I feel sad for her. And the race optics push my buttons.

Moved from the fentanyl thread: In the latest episode, a military veteran/COVID ICU nurse suffers terribly from PTSD and alcoholism. The effect of severe alcoholism on the body, especially the loss of the ability to function physically, is clearly demonstrated. I was expecting to see Jordan's body shut down completely followed by death. His turnaround was remarkable. I know that being surrounded by other vets in recovery helped him. I hope he thrives.

Someone commented that these "luxury yacht" experiences are really more like cruises. The tacky theme parties and so on. I have to agree.

The title of this topic is funny because certain old-time, coastal Virginians and Marylanders have what some have called an Elizabethan accent. Not sure about the Elizabethan part, but instead of "a-bout" they say "a-boat."

I am very late to this party. I confused this series with something else and didn't watch, then realized my mistake last week. I've binged through the end of Season 2. What a gift! Especially since we've had to settle for so much dreck during COVID. I've never been to Italy and feel like I've been immersed virtually. Usually so many characters run together in my mind, but I have vivid images and memories of each one. Some of the faces are remarkable - for example, Alessio Gallo is a combination of menace and odd beauty. What a stand-out achievement for the director(s). I can't wait to dig in to Season 3.

Reminded me instantly of the scene in Goodfellas where Karen and Henry walked through a nightclub, going in a side door, through the kitchen and hallways, and over to their table next to the stage. (Rest in peace Ray Liotta.) Lots of talk about Scorsese pulling off this single-take tracking shot when the movie premiered.