Tasya

This is not true. Gabby was already planning to vote out Carl before Christian told her about Carl's plan. She had already recruited the Goliaths for that purpose. I'm not "blaming" Gabby for beating them at their own game, i'm pointing out her hypocrisy. She said that her alliance wasn't real becaues they were going to lie to her while the entire time she had already hatched a plan to vote out Carl. If you don't believe me, rewatch the episode. She started plotting on him right away because she didn't like his behavior from the previous vote.

All of them look ok except Jed. He's the least attractive by a mile of this group.

I find Gabby to be annoying and ridiculous. She was mad at Carl for planning to vote out Allison and lying to her about it while the entire time PLOTTING TO VOTE HIM OUT. Carl may not have told her, but he had zero plans to vote out anyone from his alliance. I 100% believe she'd turn on Christian. I have a real problem with women who cry in order to get their way and in particular white women who cry a lot because it's been shown to be a powerful tool. She's manipulative.

I believe a lot of crap about the Duggars but I don't believe this. Sorry, I just don't. I think that the real Jana Duggar would likely have declined to answer the survey in the first place. Secondly, I have NEVER heard them refer to JB as "daddy".

Hmm Spurgeon is losing that ultra cuteness. Henry surprisingly is now the cuter of the two.

Not to defend it, because I don't think a child that young should be sexually active, but you can't go to jail for statutory rape unless one party is over 18. It looks like they were a teenage couple. To their credit, the next child is 5 years younger.

Can we hope and pray that the dude on the left is a husband for Jana?

I think she chooses to wear it out of respect, the same way that Alyssa does when she's home. They aren't my cup of tea as people, and I think Gil is too close to Gothard insiders, but it can not be denied that they are raising / have raised individuals rather than sheep. They have children that have gone their own way and don't sit around espousing their parents hard core beliefs. Considering this group (quiverfull/Gothard) that is remarkable. They also seem to love their children for themselves rather than as a collective "our 19 kids" like the Duggars.

In the picture where everyone is standing, Jana looks gorgeous. She has to be choosing to stay single because there is no way that some fundy guy out there hasn't approached JB about her.

I see that the thread is updated and I keep clicking on this thread hoping that something positive has happened for Jana. Alas, it's just chit chat.

Looks like they're at CiCi's pizza. Which has a buffet that costs around $5.99.

I wish Ben had married Jinger and then there would be one complete Duggar couple that I could tolerate, rather than half of two of them. I strongly believe that if Jessa wanted to make a full break from Fundism and just be a fairly normal conservative Christian, Ben would be all for it. In that family she is the one holding on to the manner in which she grew up.

Brynn is 14 so she's not that young compared to the others. Maddie and Kendall are also 14 (they will turn 15 later this year). Kalani will be 17 this year and Chloe and Nia just turned 16. Mackenzie just turned 13 and believe it or not with how immature she acts, Jojo is 14 as well.

I'll have to back them up on that purchase. My little boy has almost exactly that same haul plus add in those really fabulous wooden alphabet blocks, and they have all come from the thrift shop. Because M&D toys are so sturdy they are easy to pass on.

Some of you posters are so funny. You claim to want Jinger to break away from her family rules but when she does everything is wrong or suspect. Jeremy must be controlling everything she does because that fits the narrative. I think that she's just like Alyssa Bates. When given a chance to get away from her family, she's took it and now she's busy discovering herself. She looks happy, healthy and normal.

I've tried to see the cuteness in Henry but it's just a no for me. He's simply an average looking baby, then again i'm not one of those people that swears that all kids are cute.

Jazz's response was perfect:

Hmm I don't think Joe is the hottest Duggar guy. That balding hair is terrible. One of the twins is much cuter than he is. Also that girl is not as pretty as a single one of the Duggar girls. Bless her heart....and her weirdly shaped face.

At least the baby is in a sleeper and not some old man outfit like the Waller spawn.

When I'm baking it makes me happy; Jana looks so sad to be toiling away.

My biggest take away from this season was that the Sassy Supremes are incredibly delusional; from the coach on down. I few times Cambrie's mom (mostly Jayliana's mom) have stirred the pot, but mostly they just focus on their own kids. Cambrie has also NEVER stopped down to her mom's level when they are going after someone. Jaimie is right there in the fray with her trash mom and that is incredibly unprofessional. At the pageant, I was incredibly impressed with Cambrie's Court. I think she took 16 girls and based upon what we saw and the categories they called out it seemed like all of her kids pulled out for at least some sort of supreme. From a business standpoint alone, any of Jaimie's parents who watch this season back and still justify paying her are crazy. I'm not in to pageants (I have a son) but if I was going to go that route and spend the crazy amount of money associated with it, you can damn sure bet I'd want the best. I saw Nisa in the audience with her new team but not Amanda. I wonder if Landry was there? I bet her mother wouldn't bring her to a "face" only pageant because there's a better chance that she wouldn't win. She's really talented and well-coached but she's not as straight out pretty as some of Cambrie's girls.

When they say they "brought" a child; that just means who the producers are focusing on that day. You'll notice that Cambrie has a lot more girls there than the ones that are being spotlighted. Jayliana is the one that tells Kallan to come to Cambrie's Court and the mom that came in crying on the previews is the mom of the little girl that did so well but the mom spazzed out. This week Cadence is there for SS but she isn't being spotlighted. We saw Landry (Top Models one) at that pet competition, but the show didn't focus on her that week. Also at many of the competitions this season Cambrie's girls have almost swept the high titles, but we never see all of them interviewed. I will say that although some of the things are clearly staged (the field trips etc); I continue to be impressed by Cambrie. She's very professional and it's clear she's in it to do the job she's being paid for. She's serious about preparing her girls and making sure that they come across professionally. Jaimie by comparison is an absolute joke. I can't understand why any of these parents pay her. I suspect that like Kallyn's mom, they are her friends who have had kids and that's why they are with her. Why anyone from the outside of her little crew would approach her for coaching, I have no idea. I also wasn't surprised to hear that one former Top Model mom say that she left because her kid beat Landry and Amanda flipped out. It was so clear that their entire focus was on her and not any other child on their team. I'm pretty sure that all of the girls that came to Cambrie from Top Model would have similar stories.

I much prefer the Michaela's to the Figgy's. Give me the person that's upfront about who they are over the person that smiles in your face while secretly talking trash about you at every opportunity. Michaela said clearly that she was "trying to keep us all here" when she was working the puzzle with Hannah. Afterwards she immediately told Hannah "I'm sorry, you know I love you but I was just trying to win".

Cambrie didn't want to work with Givanna and Aly (I can't with the full spelling of Aly) because for their age they are way behind where they should be. Seleyse is only 3, you can do more with someone her age to get her ready than for a what 8/9 year old? Giavanna only stood out in this pageant because of that dress, it hid her feet and she didn't have to worry about perfect placement and doing the full expected modeling; Aly was a pure mess. I will say that the twins have greatly improved in the terms of their looks. They were homely youngsters but I thought Aly was really pretty even though they made a bigger deal over Giavanna. With the full makeup on and that completely inappropriate teenage gown she had on, she did look really pretty. But in their THs with no makeup on Aly is actually pretty while Giavanna is average. Top Models is at this pageant but they aren't focusing on them. One of the hidden routines was Landree doing her pet routine.

It's the same shirt lol. You can tell it's gray at the top in the ice cream cone picture, it's just the way the light is hitting it that makes it look different.